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 5th December 2021, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(jimwatts @ Dec 5 2021, 08:21 PM)  Amazon this morning (yesterday morning's positions in brackets) - source here: (15) 11 Gayle - abcdefu (20) 17 George Ezra - Come On Home For Christmas and also: (21) 21 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name) (17) 25 SwitchOTR - Coming For You (50) 38 Olivia Dean - The Christmas Song All these songs are on SCR. The George Ezra and Olivia Dean songs are exclusive to Amazon, so in theory can't get streams from anywhere else and should be further behind those other songs when data from elsewhere is added. However in First Look: #5 George Ezra - Come On Home For Christmas #10 Gayle - abcdefu #17 Olivia Dean - The Christmas Song #18 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name) #20 SwitchOTR - Coming For You  Someone has mentioned before that there is a separate 'Amazon Prime' chart where the exclusive Christmas songs have been charting higher. So I guess it just comes down to the premium/free streams split. (I actually didn't know until just now when trying to Google to find said Amazon Prime chart that there was a free tier of Amazon Music but apparently that is the case, I still have no idea how to see the Prime chart though). A little surprising that is enough to make this much of a difference but I guess it may just be small margins and exaggerated by how absurdly overweighted Amazon is in the First Look chart. No doubt George will fall behind GAYLE and Olivia will fall behind ArrDee/SwitchOTR by the end of the week. |
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5th December 2021, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(jimwatts @ Dec 5 2021, 10:21 PM) Amazon this morning (yesterday morning's positions in brackets) - source here: (15) 11 Gayle - abcdefu (20) 17 George Ezra - Come On Home For Christmas and also: (21) 21 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name) (17) 25 SwitchOTR - Coming For You (50) 38 Olivia Dean - The Christmas Song All these songs are on SCR. The George Ezra and Olivia Dean songs are exclusive to Amazon, so in theory can't get streams from anywhere else and should be further behind those other songs when data from elsewhere is added. However in First Look: #5 George Ezra - Come On Home For Christmas #10 Gayle - abcdefu #17 Olivia Dean - The Christmas Song #18 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name) #20 SwitchOTR - Coming For You Amazon's numbers are always super shady in December. |
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5th December 2021, 08:37 PM
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The OCC must be tracking the data rather than Amazon submitting it surely? Previous posts are right, they have more than one chart depending on which subscription you have.
George Ezra is #13 in whatever I have which I think is the standard Prime subscription |
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5th December 2021, 08:46 PM
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Surprised Wizzard have never been higher than 14 on Spotify, guess there’s a lot of competition when it peaks. Adele 140k streams ahead of Ed/Elton wonder if the downloads will over come that?
Was it this week last year when Mariah finally went to No1? Ariana was on lowish sales of 40k and Mariah beat her so will likely do the same this week perhaps! Does Leona usually do as well as top 6 on Apple each year? Where is Ed/Elton on Amazon? |
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5th December 2021, 08:52 PM
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Looks like the Amazon Exclusives are a few places higher on Prime, still doesn't seem enough to explain it which is frustrating, but that's how it is. Main issue I have with the exclusives is the enforced repeat plays (which becomes a bigger thing closer to Christmas Day).
Ed/Elton are currently #3 on Amazon after trailing Adele (now #4) for most of the weekend. |
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5th December 2021, 08:57 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(jimwatts @ Dec 5 2021, 08:52 PM) Looks like the Amazon Exclusives are a few places higher on Prime, still doesn't seem enough to explain it which is frustrating, but that's how it is. Main issue I have with the exclusives is the enforced repeat plays (which becomes a bigger thing closer to Christmas Day). Ed/Elton are currently #3 on Amazon after trailing Adele (now #4) for most of the weekend. Yeh I imagine they play ‘Mariah’ then ‘Wham’ then ‘George Ezra’ when you ask Alexa to play Xmas songs. |
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5th December 2021, 09:12 PM
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Alexa from Christmas Day 2019 apparently:
Mariah, Wham!, Ellie, Band Aid, Shaky, Pogues, Ellie again, Slade, Katy Perry, Chris Rea, Ellie again, Wizzard, Andy Williams, Buble, Ellie again... Slightly exaggerated perhaps, but can attest to some of that happening on Boxing Day that year - and that's how she got the #1. |
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5th December 2021, 09:14 PM
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I’m getting an Alexa this Christmas so will try for myself lol, wonder if I ask Alexa to play Xmas songs every day of the year will it affect the chart 😄
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5th December 2021, 09:24 PM
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Leona update.
Apple Music 5. One More Sleep (+148) 142. Kiss Me It's Christmas Amazon 20. One More Sleep 90. Kiss Me It's Christmas Amazing to see how well "One More Sleep" is doing on Apple Music. I really wish the spotify playlists would be a bit kinder to the song (not that it's doing badly there at all). Nice to see "Kiss Me It's Christmas" continue to rise up Apple Music and Amazon. I wonder if it'll have a chance of going top 100 this week if it continues to rise? |
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5th December 2021, 09:27 PM
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Nice to see Mabel rising on Apple now, could sneak a top 40 position!
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6th December 2021, 06:58 AM
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thru the link I always check, Ed/Elton have been #3 on Amazon since Saturday afternoon:
https://music.amazon.co.uk/popular/songs River getting to #1 was bizarre but last year Jess Glynne getting to #3 was even more weird  This post has been edited by Bjork: 6th December 2021, 07:00 AM |
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6th December 2021, 10:23 AM
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Wham now ahead of Mariah on Spotify today
#1 Wham 614k #2 Mariah 595k #8 Easy on me 382k #21 Ed and Elton Merry Christmas 255k |
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6th December 2021, 10:26 AM
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AIWFCIY is the #1 globally (for the first time this year?)
Love to see Pretenders in top 50 in the UK This post has been edited by Sour Candy: 6th December 2021, 10:27 AM |
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6th December 2021, 12:13 PM
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Wham! suddenly jumping to a fairly big lead over Mariah there! Mariah's days as the #1 Christmas classic are numbered if Wham! keep overtaking her earlier each year.
I wish this was a battle between almost any other 2 Christmas songs though, Wham! and Mariah are basically my 2 least favourite of the big ones oop. Ed/Elton still holding up quite well but interested to see what happens to it tomorrow - will it recover like other current hits or drop off like the older Christmas songs? Depends on how much its streams are already just coming from being on Christmas playlists I guess. |
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6th December 2021, 12:21 PM
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not sure if mentioned but talking about playlist, Ed & Elton have been added to HH and pretty high
so Ed is actually on 4 tracks on HH as a lead + a 5th as featured on TS's Run nice HH moved Sam Fender to track #2... too bad HH is kinda irrelevant in December though |
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6th December 2021, 12:34 PM
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actually very good figures for Wham today, 614K, thats more than double relative to Ed & Elton who are just on 255K
so applying ACR it would be still Adele comfortably at #1 with doing 50% more than Ed & EJ 1 Adele - Easy on me 382K 2 Wham 307K 3 Mariah 297K 4 Ed & Elton 255K 5 Gayle 232K + ??? (probably ahead of Ed&EJ when adding the 2nd version) |
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6th December 2021, 12:44 PM
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I'd really love to see Clarko go top 10 this year!
Easily my favourite "modern" Christmas song. |
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6th December 2021, 12:50 PM
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Does the UK prefer Wham to Mariah overall?
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6th December 2021, 12:55 PM
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Kelly C is actually #7 on Amazon, #9 on Apple and #16 on Spotify, so very very good overall
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6th December 2021, 08:14 PM
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Gayle up to #5 on Amazon now, think she'll stay Top 5 officially this week at least.
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