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Sempachorra View member profile	May 16 2013, 10:17 PM Post #261
Let's Go Brandon Joined: 6 April 2006 Posts: 22,646 User: 421	Just for you: 6iqXkH9IPCA


sdizda View member profile	Jan 23 2014, 11:49 AM Post #262
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 13 January 2011 Posts: 4,193 User: 12,776	MTV European Top 20 - Bubblers 931211 Hot in UK Prince - Controversy 931211 Hot in Ireland The Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin' (Sure Is Pure '93 Edit)


Ben View member profile	Jan 23 2014, 12:14 PM Post #263
Chart Chat Slave Joined: 19 March 2006 Posts: 64,343 User: 275	QUOTE(Euphorique @ May 16 2013, 10:33 PM) Remember the show MTV Hitlist? I don't but I remember Hit List UK, I loved it and I think it was the official UK top 40 singles chart.


sdizda View member profile	Jan 24 2014, 06:40 AM Post #264
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 13 January 2011 Posts: 4,193 User: 12,776	I remember MTV's Hit List in 1997 and 1998


tsetsi81 View member profile	Feb 9 2014, 11:03 AM Post #265
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 18 November 2007 Posts: 2,089 User: 4,845	I saw MTV Europe's schedule these days and in today's there is something called Euro top 20,from 14:00 to 16:00 CET (and yesterday for 30 minutes).Unfortunately my satellite operator dropped that version of MTV almost a year ago and'm not able to see today what will they show.(Instead they broadcas MTV Hits ad MTV Rocks).If someone could watch from 14:00 CET it will be good.Strangely mtv.tv hasn't been updated even with MTV,VH1 and VH1 Classics schedules from the end of last year.....


Ben View member profile	Feb 10 2014, 02:28 PM Post #266
Chart Chat Slave Joined: 19 March 2006 Posts: 64,343 User: 275	QUOTE(tsetsi81 @ Feb 9 2014, 12:03 PM) I saw MTV Europe's schedule these days and in today's there is something called Euro top 20,from 14:00 to 16:00 CET (and yesterday for 30 minutes).Unfortunately my satellite operator dropped that version of MTV almost a year ago and'm not able to see today what will they show.(Instead they broadcas MTV Hits ad MTV Rocks).If someone could watch from 14:00 CET it will be good.Strangely mtv.tv hasn't been updated even with MTV,VH1 and VH1 Classics schedules from the end of last year..... I can't sadly, but interestingly there are two types of MTV Europe: the so called MTV Europe and MTV European What's the difference? In Hungary we had MTV Hungary until the 1st November but it stopped broadcasting and now we get MTV European (I think). (Not that I'm watching it, it's full of reality shows...)


bobiloko View member profile	Feb 17 2014, 08:21 PM Post #267
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 12 October 2007 Posts: 821 User: 4,532	Ben, I think there is only one MTV Europe - and it's exactly the one you're able to watch as when there are advertisements, they show subtitles in Hungarian! tsetsi, you've made a great discovery! I've investigated the situation - there is a Bulgarian website which shows the schedules for various TV channels for EACH DAY. So, according to that website, the first Saturday and Sunday when this "Euro Top Chart" was broadcast were January 11 and 12, 2014. There was no such chart during the first week of 2014 (January 4 and 5), nor during December 2013. So the European chart on MTV Europe was resurrected(?) at the beginning of this year!... Of course, the question is: is this the same chart as before? But before I answer, let me just mention that it's broadcast on Saturdays from 12:00 to 14:00 CET and on Sundays from 14:00 to 16:00 CET. I watched the chart on Saturday, February 15 and on Sunday, February 16. And I have to stress that this is not European TOP 20. Here is the chart: 30 Drake - Hold On, We're Going Home 29 28 Beyoncé Knowles - XO 27 26 Bastille - Of The Night 25 Capital Cities - Safe And Sound 24 Zedd & Hayley Williams - Stay The Night 23 Imagine Dragons - Demons 22 Naughty Boy & Sam Smith - La La La 21 Martin Garrix - Animals 20 John Newman - Love Me Again 19 Jason Derulo - Talk Dirty 18 17 16 Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball 15 14 One Direction - Story Of My Life 13 Katy Perry - Unconditionally 12 Avicii & Aloe Blacc - Wake Me Up! 11 Calvin Harris, Alesso & Hurts - Under Control 10 Ellie Goulding - Burn 9 Shakira & Rihanna - Can't Remember To Forget You 8 7 6 Lorde - Royals 5 OneRepublic - Counting Stars 4 Eminem & Rihanna - The Monster 3 Avicii - Hey Brother 2 Pitbull & Ke$ha - Timber 1 Pharrell Williams - Happy Well, the chart is (at least) a Top 30. And some positions are skipped. While I was watching, I thought that the reason for this was that they were using some other chart and skipping songs they didn't want to broadcast... I'm not quite sure that "Can't Remember To Forget You" by Shakira and Rihanna is at number 9. They were showing each position as a square in the upper left corner of the screen but I have the feeling that I didn't look at the position of "Can't Remember To Forget You" - I was so certain that it was at number 9 because I couldn't imagine MTV Europe skipping a position in the Top 10! And then they immediately played "Royals" by Lorde straight at number 6... After having watched the chart and making some more investigations, I have even more reason to think that "Can't Remember To Forget You" wasn't at number 9: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=161520 MTV Italy is the only MTV that has been showing some kind of "Euro Top 20" chart all this time... And just look at the edition of February 15! The only difference is that "Can't Remember To Forget You" is at number 8... Of course, this raises more and more questions. Has this "Euro Top Chart" on MTV Europe always been the same as the "Euro Top 20" on MTV Italy since the "resurrection" at the beginning of this year? And how come this chart is (at least) a Top 30? Are positions 30-21 again taken from some methodology used by MTV Italy or are they made up by MTV Europe?... It's all extremely interesting and I hope the next edition of the chart will give some answers!


bobiloko View member profile	Feb 22 2014, 02:25 PM Post #268
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 12 October 2007 Posts: 821 User: 4,532	Here is the chart of February 22: 30 29 Beyoncé Knowles - XO 1 Down 28 Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball 12 Down 27 Imagine Dragons - Demons 4 Down 26 25 24 Naughty Boy & Sam Smith - La La La 2 Down 23 Jason Derulo - Talk Dirty 4 Down 22 John Newman - Love Me Again 2 Down 21 Martin Garrix - Animals Stay => 20 Zedd & Hayley Williams - Stay The Night 4 Up 19 18 Jason Derulo - Trumpets 17 16 Katy Perry - Roar 15 Bastille - Of The Night 11 Up 14 Clean Bandit - Rather Be 13 Calvin Harris, Alesso & Hurts - Under Control 2 Down 12 11 Ellie Goulding - Burn 1 Down 10 One Direction - Story Of My Life 4 Up 9 Avicii & Aloe Blacc - Wake Me Up! 3 Up 8 Lorde - Royals 2 Down 7 6 Shakira & Rihanna - Can't Remember To Forget You 2(?) Up 5 OneRepublic - Counting Stars Stay => 4 Eminem & Rihanna - The Monster Stay => 3 Avicii - Hey Brother Stay => 2 Pitbull & Ke$ha - Timber Stay => 1 Pharrell Williams - Happy Stay => Once again the Top 20 of the chart is identical to the "Euro Top 20" on MTV Italy (the edition of February 22) so now I'm basically certain that "Can't Remember To Forget You" by Shakira and Rihanna actually was at number 8 last week. What's curious is that last week they skipped "Roar" by Katy Perry (which supposedly was at number 17) but they played it this week... while they played "Unconditionally" last week but have skipped it this week (it's supposedly at number 19)! I'm not sure why MTV Europe is reluctant to play both Katy Perry songs while they have no problem playing both "Talk Dirty" and "Trumpets" by Jason Derulo... or "Wake Me Up!" and "Hey Brother" by Avicii... Otherwise, they seem to be skipping songs that probably aren't played on MTV Europe at all - like "Jubel" by Klingande. I'm wondering whether future editions of this "Euro Top Chart" should be posted in this topic or a new topic should be created especially for that?


Ben View member profile	Feb 28 2014, 02:22 PM Post #269
Chart Chat Slave Joined: 19 March 2006 Posts: 64,343 User: 275	Seems very odd that some positions are missing. BTW I think you can have an own thread for the fresh charts bobiloko


Sempachorra View member profile	Feb 28 2014, 05:46 PM Post #270
Let's Go Brandon Joined: 6 April 2006 Posts: 22,646 User: 421	MTV Europe and MTV European are the same channel, it just had a name change in the early/mid 2000s to MTV European.


Sempachorra View member profile	Mar 2 2014, 04:17 PM Post #271
Let's Go Brandon Joined: 6 April 2006 Posts: 22,646 User: 421	Some big hits in Europe this month in 99: Straps taken exclusively from MTV Europe.


sdizda View member profile	Apr 29 2014, 01:17 PM Post #272
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 13 January 2011 Posts: 4,193 User: 12,776	U2 - Staring at the Sun (MTV's European Top 20, Bubbler Hit from UK) (26.04.1997.) Daft Punk - Around the World (MTV's European Top 20, Bubbler Hit from Italia) (26.04.1997.) This post has been edited by sdizda: Apr 30 2014, 05:29 AM


Jamse View member profile	Jun 30 2018, 10:27 AM Post #273
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 3 January 2008 Posts: 751 User: 5,177	Long time no hear folks!!! Would you like to see the complete old European Top 20 charts? If you've haven't already noticed them, a good samaritan has taken the time to upload at least 30 charts on Youtube with charts ranging from 1993 - 1998. 940625 940806 940528 931016 931113 940402 ...and it goes on like that until Part 40 980808 Enjoy


thass_hot View member profile	Mar 30 2020, 06:17 PM Post #274
New Entry Joined: 30 March 2020 Posts: 2 User: 104,335	What's up guys? I'm new in buzz jack (I registered today) I remember ET20 was the first chart I watched. In Portugal back in 1999 (when I started watching) the chart was aired Wednesday afternoon, right when I didn't have classes. I remember I started the write the charts the first of 2000 (I remember I was pissed cause R. Kelly was #1) I read all the hot tips and I remember in the beginning (February probably) 2000 I remember Kim Lucas "All I Really Want" was there!


Jamse View member profile	Dec 29 2020, 11:06 AM Post #275
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 3 January 2008 Posts: 751 User: 5,177	Does anyone know what happened to Markus Tolksdorf?


Topsi View member profile	Jan 3 2021, 12:27 PM Post #276
New Entry Joined: 25 October 2020 Posts: 4 User: 116,153	Hi Jamse, I no longer have access to the server to which I published my archive. Also I spent less time on the charts, but still I have my archive. I need to find some fitting webspace, to where I can move my site and then I can publish them again. Nice that other people think of me Best regards, Markus


Jamse View member profile	Aug 14 2021, 07:03 PM Post #277
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 3 January 2008 Posts: 751 User: 5,177	Time to start filling in the 1990-gap in Markus Tolksdorf's ET20 Archive. For that I have two charts that are missing from his archive right here presented using the archives chart data. 1990-09-01 TW LW #Weeks Artist Title 1. ??? 7 Madonna - Hanky Panky 1990-09-22 TW LW #Weeks Artist Title 1. NEW 1 George Michael Praying For Time 2. NEW 1 DNA & Suzanne Vega Tom's Diner 3. NEW 1 Londonbeat I've Been Thinking About You 4. NEW 1 Mariah Carey Vision Of Love 5. NEW 1 New Kids On The Block Tonight 6. NEW 1 Wilson Phillips Release Me 7. NEW 1 INXS Suicide Blonde 8. ??? 10 Madonna Hanky Panky 9. ??? 21 UB 40 Kingston Town 10. ??? 10 Maxi Priest Close To You 11. ??? 17 Matthias Reim Verdammt ich lieb' dich 12. NEW 1 Deee-Lite Groove Is In The Heart 13. NEW 1 Go West King Of Wishful Thinking 14. NEW 1 Charles D. Lewis Soca Dance 15. ??? 14 Roxette It Must Have Been Love 16. ??? 0 ???? ????? 17. NEW 1 Sinead O'Connor The Emperor’s New Clothes 18. ??? 11 MC Hammer U Can't Touch This 19. ??? 25 Alannah Myles Black Velvet 20. ??? 0 ???? ????? 1990-09-29 TW LW #Weeks Artist Title 1. 2 2 DNA & Suzanne Vega Tom's Diner 2. 3 2 Londonbeat I've Been Thinking About You 3. 1 2 George Michael Praying For Time 4. 5 2 New Kids On The Block Tonight 5. 7 2 INXS Suicide Blonde 6. 4 2 Mariah Carey Vision Of Love 7. 6 2 Wilson Phillips Release Me 8. 14 2 Charles D. Lewis Soca Dance 9. 12 2 Deee-Lite Groove Is In The Heart 10. 15 15 Roxette It Must Have Been Love 11. 8 11 Madonna Hanky Panky 12. 9 22 UB 40 Kingston Town 13. 10 11 Maxi Priest Close To You 14. REE(21) 9 Vaya Con Dios What's A Woman 15. 18 12 MC Hammer U Can't Touch This 16. 11 18 Matthias Reim Verdammt ich lieb' dich 17. 17 2 Sinead O'Connor The Emperor’s New Clothes 18. 13 2 Go West King Of Wishful Thinking 19. 19 26 Alannah Myles Black Velvet 20. ??? 10 Craig McLachlan & Check 1-2 Mona


bobiloko View member profile	Aug 15 2021, 08:35 PM Post #278
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 12 October 2007 Posts: 821 User: 4,532	Wow! Where did you find these 2 editions of the chart?


Jamse View member profile	Aug 16 2021, 07:17 PM Post #279
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 3 January 2008 Posts: 751 User: 5,177	QUOTE(bobiloko @ Aug 15 2021, 07:35 PM) Wow! Where did you find these 2 editions of the chart? Well a couple of years back I posted links to about 50 ET charts from the 90's available on YT in this thread (a handful of these are no longer available). One of those happened to be the chart of 90-09-29 which is within the 1990-gap. Using the LW-positions in this edition I could almost entirely work out the previous chart.


Jamse View member profile	Oct 2 2021, 07:40 PM Post #280
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 3 January 2008 Posts: 751 User: 5,177	881231? Let's go even further back with the oldest clip of the ET20 from 1988. Ray Cokes was probably the first regular host of the show and he appears to be presenting the chart of the year 1988 (back then a show with only the Nr 1's of a given year played in order from January to December) in which he reveals two chart-topping songs. Nr 1's of 1988 880829 Kim Wilde - You Came 880905 Kylie Minogue - The Loco-Motion 880912 Kylie Minogue - The Loco-Motion 880919 Kylie Minogue - The Loco-Motion Looking further back I recall a comment about someone who had a VHS tape of the ET20 taped during the summer of 1988 in which Michael Jackson "Another Part Of Me" was Nr 1 though this is yet to be confirmed.