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 Sep 4 2018, 12:05 PM
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 #38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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I couldn't post in the other thread, so I though I'd start a new thread if that is ok with everyone?
Interesting YouGov survey which looked at polling for 18-24 year-olds only. https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1...900674573934592 QUOTE How the next general election would look if only 18-24s were allowed to vote (Data from @YouGov, 28-29th August). I'm expecting some great GIFs, everyone... LAB: 66%, 600 Seats LDM: 13%, 21 Seats CON: 12%, 0 Seats GRN: 4%, 1 Seat SNP: 3%, 9 Seats PLC: 0.4%, 1 Seat ZERO seats for the Tories!! |
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Sep 4 2018, 12:11 PM
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I SAW THAT!!
The young don't watch the BBTory or read the Murdoch press. Disgusting we have this government and Beexit when thr young despise both. |
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Sep 4 2018, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! @ Sep 4 2018, 01:11 PM)  I SAW THAT!! The young don't watch the BBTory or read the Murdoch press. Disgusting we have this government and Beexit when thr young despise both. Have a word with Jezza then, cos he has the power to do something about it...... |
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Sep 4 2018, 01:48 PM
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The PC and SNP numbers look a little lower than I would expect based on what has actually happened at elections. I’d also expect a higher green vote.
Probably a by-product of a small sample. The number for the Tories isn’t a shock at all. You could expand that to 35 and they’d still struggle to gain a seat |
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Sep 4 2018, 02:27 PM
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The projection if only over-65s were allowed to vote, of course, showed the Tories winning well over 500 seats.
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Sep 4 2018, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Sep 4 2018, 03:27 PM) The projection if only over-65s were allowed to vote, of course, showed the Tories winning well over 500 seats. And yet the Tories cut pensions and fuel allowances. Beggars belief! Guess that's what happens when you watch the BBC and read newspapers. |
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Sep 4 2018, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Sep 4 2018, 03:27 PM) The projection if only over-65s were allowed to vote, of course, showed the Tories winning well over 500 seats. Indeed. What a great shame it is that many won't be alive in 20 or so years time though.. |
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Sep 4 2018, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! @ Sep 4 2018, 03:32 PM) And yet the Tories cut pensions and fuel allowances. Beggars belief! Guess that's what happens when you watch the BBC and read newspapers. Pensions havent been cut, they keep up with inflation, and as far as I know the fuel allowance, free TV licence and all the rest are still in operation. They have completely effed up the NHS though so their core base dies earlier than otherwise they would, so it's kind of a braindead policy really thinking people dont notice they have to wait 5 months for an interview to have an operation to remove a sun-carcinoma (NB this is me) forcing you to go private or take a chance it hasnt gone deep and dark because it's not as urgent as someone who breaks an arm while pissed on a night out. So let's get the criticism right about how evil they are, and then spread that message because that one is REALLY going to cost them votes..... |
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Sep 4 2018, 04:03 PM
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Instead we'll most likely just have a new generation of over 65s who vote Tory, there's a clear trend the older you are the more likely to vote conservative.
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Sep 4 2018, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Sep 4 2018, 05:03 PM) Instead we'll most likely just have a new generation of over 65s who vote Tory, there's a clear trend the older you are the more likely to vote conservative. Whilst it is true to say that as you grow older your political view changes - in the 2017 election the average age at which you are more likely to vote Conservative in just two years surged from 32 to 47! In other news - in Germany, the far-right AfD have now overtaken the SPD to take 2nd biggest party in polling... 
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Sep 9 2018, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Sep 4 2018, 05:03 PM) Instead we'll most likely just have a new generation of over 65s who vote Tory, there's a clear trend the older you are the more likely to vote conservative. Nope. My generation won't change. We despise the bast*rd Tories and all they've done. No forgiveness. Losing our EU citizenship and rights is their fault. |
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Sep 12 2018, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Sep 4 2018, 03:49 PM) Indeed. What a great shame it is that many won't be alive in 20 or so years time though.. But by then there will be more Tory converts to replace them... |
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Sep 12 2018, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Sep 4 2018, 05:03 PM) Pensions havent been cut, they keep up with inflation, and as far as I know the fuel allowance, free TV licence and all the rest are still in operation. They have completely effed up the NHS though It still seems in reasonable shape to me, judging by recent experience. |
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Sep 12 2018, 08:45 AM
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Wrong to both viscapprr.
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Sep 12 2018, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Sep 12 2018, 08:11 AM) It still seems in reasonable shape to me, judging by recent experience. It’s good that your experience with the NHS was a positive one, as was ours last year when my father was similarly ill. That doesn’t take away from the factual reality that our health service is missing targets UK wide, is tens of thousands of staff short of safe and effective operation, the staff are hideously overworked and underpaid and is just chronically underfunded. Even Scotland is struggling and the NHS north of the border has been better protected from the austerity of the Tory government. The staff that work in or NHS are amazing and do incredible work in very tough conditions. You just have to look at every official measure, including the operating deficits of the trusts, to see how bad things actually are country wide |
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Sep 12 2018, 03:27 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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Any thoughts on the rise of the AfD, Silas?
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Sep 12 2018, 07:58 PM
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Concerning but their numbers seem to fluctuate quite heavily as they’re down to 4th in the most recent poll with the Greens ahead of them and the SPD having lost 3% between polls.
Chemnitz was a bit scary and I think the weekend before in Berlin there was an AfD/NeoNazi March and multiple people were charged with making the Nazi salute (which is a crime in Germany) It will be interesting to see how Merkel responds going forward to such blatant marching of Nazis on the streets. Immigration itself seems to be a lesser issue than it was their support might start to fall away in the west but the East remains their best breeding ground for support. I don’t think they’ll be going away any time soon. Almost 30 years post reunification the East still lags behind the West in living standards and GDP |
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Sep 12 2018, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Sep 12 2018, 08:58 PM) Concerning but their numbers seem to fluctuate quite heavily as they’re down to 4th in the most recent poll with the Greens ahead of them and the SPD having lost 3% between polls. Chemnitz was a bit scary and I think the weekend before in Berlin there was an AfD/NeoNazi March and multiple people were charged with making the Nazi salute (which is a crime in Germany) It will be interesting to see how Merkel responds going forward to such blatant marching of Nazis on the streets. Immigration itself seems to be a lesser issue than it was their support might start to fall away in the west but the East remains their best breeding ground for support. I don’t think they’ll be going away any time soon. Almost 30 years post reunification the East still lags behind the West in living standards and GDP Is that their north south divide? It might last generations then like here or Spain. |
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Sep 12 2018, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! @ Sep 12 2018, 09:02 PM) Is that their north south divide? It might last generations then like here or Spain. The East-West gap 30 years ago was far greater than the UK's north-south divide has ever been. The East was a completely basket case. It says a lot for the strength of the West German economy that they could absorb the East without the economy collapsing. |
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Sep 12 2018, 08:47 PM
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I'm not really sure that the North/South divide is really comparable to the East/West split in Germany because of the circumstances that lead to the variation in Standards and Economic performance. Three states, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Bayern and Baden-Württemberg each on their own have a higher GDP that the entirety of east Germany combined. I think if you include West Berlin then it's a tight battle for 3rd sport with BW and still over €200bn behind NRW.
30 years ago these states were still under communist rule and life was very tough. It's remarkable what has been achieved to date in reintegrating them with West Germany but there's still a long way to go until the inequality between DDR and BDR is reduced to negligible levels. |
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