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Posted by: lewistgreen 24th November 2023, 10:35 AM

News is starting to come through now about the next BRIT Awards, which will take place again at The O2 in London. The confirmed date is Saturday, 2nd March 2024.

What we know so far:
Criticism of the Best Artist Award not featuring any female artists appears to have been addressed as the shortlist will increase from 5 to 10 nominees
Best International Artist will increase to 10 nominees
R&B will have its own genre category after being combined with Pop last time
The Award has been designed by Rachel Jones



Nominations and Winners

British Album of the Year
Blur - The Ballad Of Darren
J Hus - Beautiful And Brutal Yard
Little Simz - No Thank You
RAYE - My 21st Century Blues - WINNER
Young Fathers - Heavy Heavy

Song of the Year
Calvin Harris & Ellie Goulding - Miracle
cassö, RAYE & D-Block Europe - Prada
Central Cee - Let Go
Dave & Central Cee - Sprinter
Dua Lipa - Dance The Night
Ed Sheeran - Eyes Closed
J Hus feat. Drake - Who Told You
Kenya Grace - Strangers
Lewis Capaldi - Wish You The Best
PinkPantheress - Boy's a liar
RAYE feat. 070 Shake - Escapism - WINNER
Rudimental, Charlotte Plank & Vibe Chemistry - Dancing Is Healing
Stormzy feat. Debbie - Firebabe
Switch Disco feat. Ella Henderson - REACT
venbee x goddard. - messy in heaven

British Artist of the Year
Arlo Parks
Central Cee
Dave
Dua Lipa
Fred again..
J Hus
Jessie Ware
Little Simz
Olivia Dean
RAYE - WINNER

British Group
Blur
Chase & Status
Headie One & K-Trap
Jungle - WINNER
Young Fathers

Best Pop Act
Calvin Harris
Charli XCX
Dua Lipa - WINNER
Olivia Dean
RAYE

Best R&B Act
Cleo Sol
Jorja Smith
Mahalia
RAYE - WINNER
Sault

Best Dance Act
Barry Can't Swim
Becky Hill
Calvin Harris - WINNER
Fred again..
Romy

Best Rock/Alternative Act
Blur
Bring Me The Horizon - WINNER
The Rolling Stones
Young Fathers
Yussef Dayes

Best Hip Hop/Grime/Rap Act
CASISDEAD - WINNER
Central Cee
Dave
J Hus
Little Simz

Best New Artist
Mahalia
Olivia Dean
PinkPantheress
RAYE - WINNER
Yussef Dayes

International Artist of the Year
Asake
Burna Boy
Caroline Polachek
CMAT
Kylie Minogue
Lana Del Rey
Miley Cyrus
Olivia Rodrigo
SZA - WINNER
Taylor Swift

International Group of the Year
blink-182
boygenius - WINNER
Foo Fighters
Gabriels
Paramore

Best International Song
Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For?
David Kushner - Daylight
Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red
Jazzy - Giving Me
Libianca - People
Meghan Trainor - Made You Look
Miley Cyrus - Flowers - WINNER
Noah Kahan - Stick Season
Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz - Miss You
Olivia Rodrigo - vampire
Peggy Gou - (It Goes Like) Nanana
Rema - Calm Down
SZA - Kill Bill
Tate McRae - greedy
Tyla - Water

Rising Star
Caity Baiser
The Last Dinner Party - WINNER
Sekou

Songwriter of the Year
RAYE

Producer of the Year
Chase & Status

Global Icon Award
Kylie Minogue

Posted by: Herbs 24th November 2023, 11:55 AM

Oooh I quite like that design

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 24th November 2023, 12:35 PM

glad r&b is getting it's own category, it being lumped in with pop never made sense to me.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th November 2023, 12:35 PM

I don't think it ever had its own category. The genres used to be Best 'Urban Act', 'Rock Act', 'Dance Act' and 'Pop Act' before they got rid of them all in 2006 (2004 for Dance).

Posted by: troylovesmusic 24th November 2023, 03:43 PM

Oh thank god R&B is getting there own category , loved that they actually listened to the complaints about that !

Posted by: lewistgreen 24th November 2023, 04:54 PM

Yes you're right and I even thought it was wrong when I wrote it earlier oop

Posted by: Brer 25th November 2023, 01:52 AM

Both good changes there (although the fact they ever thought it was acceptable to put pop and R&B together as a single category was always questionable).

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 27th November 2023, 07:07 PM

Mo Gilligan has stepped down from hosting as he'll be on tour in the US.

Posted by: TheSnake 27th November 2023, 07:39 PM

I am happy for rhythm and blues.

Posted by: lewistgreen 27th November 2023, 08:20 PM

Cue Joel Dommett then...

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 29th November 2023, 02:33 PM

This year's BRITs Rising Star nominees are The Last Dinner Party, Caity Baser & Sekou.

That's surely a shoe-in for TLDP!

Posted by: Brer 29th November 2023, 06:36 PM

Maybe the first time there's ever been a Critics' Choice / Rising Star nominee that I have literally never heard of. (And one I wish I'd never heard of x)

Not massively excited about The Last Dinner Party either based on the 2 songs I've heard from them, 'Sinner' is pretty good, not keen on 'Nothing Matters'.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 7th December 2023, 07:19 PM

The Last Dinner Party have won the Rising Star category!

Posted by: Bjork 7th December 2023, 07:30 PM

Yay great news!

Posted by: lewistgreen 16th January 2024, 07:21 PM

BRITs Week is back for 2024, a series of concerts in aid of War Child. More info https://www.brits.co.uk/news/brits-week-24-for-war-child-lineup-announced.

19/02 - Cian Ducrot at Union Chapel, London
19/02 - You Me At Six at Concorde 2, Brighton
20/02 - Keane at O2 Shepherd's Bush Empire, London
21/02 - Baby Queen at Lafayette, London
21/02 - Aitch at O2 Shepherd's Bush Empire, London
21/02 - Ash at THE 100 CLUB, London
23/02 - Pendulum at HERE At Outernet, London
28/02 - Sleaford Mods at Scala, London
01/03 - CMAT at Bush Hall, London
01/03 - venbee at OMEARA, London
04/03 - The Last Dinner Party at The Trades Club, Hebden Bridge

Posted by: spiceboy 18th January 2024, 06:56 AM

I would be so upset if I won a Brit and it was one of those ugly designs! Stick to the classic silver one nothing beats that!

Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 18th January 2024, 07:39 AM

Yeah, I’m not sure the change was needed in my view.

Posted by: lewistgreen 19th January 2024, 11:30 AM

Nominations will be revealed on 24th January at 4pm on social media platforms with Yinka Bokinni

Posted by: Jessie Where 19th January 2024, 11:38 AM

Oh my God it's an EYESORE 😳

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 19th January 2024, 11:47 AM

Great news! If I have time I'll put some predictions together.

Posted by: Liam.k. 19th January 2024, 11:51 AM

Kylie is reported to be performing a “mashup of greatest hits” - including ‘Padam Padam’ - potentially as part of the BRIT Icon Award or whatever there’re calling it nowadays.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/25385852/kylie-minogue-headline-brit-awards-2024/amp/

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 19th January 2024, 01:42 PM

I can't call this year much at all. Usually there's one or two standouts, but I feel like in general, it's been quite an open field the last 12 months. Obviously the biggest talking point in the industry was Taylor's 'ERAs Tour' and the subsequent releases of 'Speak Now (TV)' & '1989 (TV)'. The latter being the most successful TV to date. Will 'Midnights' be in this year too or did that get all it's nominations last year, icr what the cut off point was for that album/era. But will she even get international artist or will they opt for Miley or Noah?

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 19th January 2024, 01:59 PM

Best British Album is an open playing field too.

I think four of them will be:

Blur - The Ballad of Darren
J Hus - Beautiful and Brutal Yard
Lewis Capaldi - Broken by Desire to Be Heavenly Sent
RAYE – My 21st Century Blues

I guess other contenders could be The Rolling Stones, Maisie Peters, Nothing But Thieves & Jorja Smith - but I'm not confident on any of it!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 19th January 2024, 02:14 PM

Raye very much deserves her flowers tbh so I hope they don’t play in her face like the Grammys did !

Posted by: Sour Candy 19th January 2024, 02:34 PM

Crazy that we have news about Kylie performing but nothing else (host, noms...)

Posted by: lewistgreen 19th January 2024, 04:09 PM

To be fair it is The Sun reporting it and not The BRITs so whilst they may be right in their prediction the official news of everything is likely to come on Wednesday like normal.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 10:44 AM

A few predictions:

Album

Blur - The Ballad of Darren
Jessie Ware - That! Feels Good
J Hus - Beautiful and Broken Yard
Olivia Dean - Messy
RAYE - My 21st Century Blues

Artist

Anne-Marie
Ed Sheeran
Jessie Ware
J Hus
Jorja Smith
Lewis Capaldi
Maisie Peters
Olivia Dean
RAYE
Tom Grennan

Group

Blur
D-Block Europe (unfortunately)
Gorillaz
Nothing But Thieves
The Rolling Stones

Possibly Take That instead of Gorillaz. Sleep Token are my wildcard choice.

International Artist

Doja Cat
Drake
Hozier
Kylie Minogue
Lana Del Rey
Luke Combs
Miley Cyrus
Olivia Rodrigo
SZA
Taylor Swift

International Group

Boygenius
Foo Fighters
Gabriels
Maneskin
Paramore

Possibly Metallica or Blink-182 instead of Maneskin or Gabriels.

Best New Artist

Ezra Collective
Holly Humberstone
Lovejoy
The Lottery Winners
Ren

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 24th January 2024, 11:36 AM

I have a feeling RAYE will do really well and win even artist and/or album, it'll be a big moment for her too. Hopefully she performs too!

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 24th January 2024, 01:19 PM

I will be very surprised if they don't nominate Miley. 'Flowers' was waaayyyyy too big a hit to ignore.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 01:23 PM

I knew I’d forgotten someone big from my nominations

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 24th January 2024, 01:25 PM

Also, I'd really like to see Troye nominated somewhere. He deserves it after having a big year himself.

I know it won't happen but I want Doja Cat and Troye performances. I need Doja to get some UK TV exposure to show how good a performer she is to the casuals over here.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 04:01 PM

Live now! Not a fan of the host

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 04:03 PM

How on earth has Firebabe been nominated?

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 04:05 PM

Mahalia and RAYE nominated for Best New Artist?

Mahalia got a Best Female nomination 4 years ago!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 04:20 PM

Calvin Harris has been nominated for Best Pop Act and not Dance Act… right

Meanwhile Chase & Status are nominated for Best Group, but not Dance Act too.

Posted by: Jade 24th January 2024, 04:27 PM

The highlight from what I’ve seen so far is Caroline Polachek being nominated for International Artist

Posted by: Juan Carlos 24th January 2024, 04:32 PM

The king was actually nominated in both categories.

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Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 04:33 PM

Ah never mind then would've been nice to have more variety though

Posted by: Sour Candy 24th January 2024, 04:36 PM

Raye received 7 noms after releasing an album that spent 7 weeks on chart? I mean I like her, but...

Posted by: GraceAJX 24th January 2024, 04:36 PM

RAYE a new artist?!? Made You Look for int'l song of the year???!!! 15 songs in a single category>?!?!?!?!? the BRITs are such a mess (love them still). so happy for RAYE

Posted by: Jade 24th January 2024, 04:46 PM

Oh wow Young Fathers - ‘Heavy Heavy’ one of the AOTY nominations 😍

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 24th January 2024, 04:52 PM

I mean it's not about sales

So so happy for RAYE

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 04:57 PM

Indeed, Little Simz’ album only made #40! I believe that’s the cut-off for being eligible, so she was lucky.

Posted by: JosephChalamet 24th January 2024, 05:13 PM

RAYE being up for Best New Artist is absolutely ridiculous, debut album release or not and it's lazy of them to have her down for both Pop and R&B, and Calvin for Pop and Dance. A couple of other artists could've received a little recognition in those spots.

Firebabe sneak

Otherwise nothing too surprising. Glad Kylie got an International Artist nomination!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 24th January 2024, 05:14 PM

Raye getting recognised and the getting the most nominations is so deserved , she better sweep !

Posted by: Chez Wombat 24th January 2024, 05:26 PM

Wonderful for Barry Can't Swim and Caroline Polachek *.*

RAYE's breakthrough and the story behind it is quite inspiring so I can see why she's nominated for so many, correct or not. Shame about the Genre awards though, that's so lazy having the same artist up for both categories.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 24th January 2024, 05:30 PM

I mean I kind of understand why she’s in both Pop and R&B as she does fit in to both genres musically . The Best New Artist is very much a reach though they should really rename the category Best Breakthrough Act !

Posted by: JosephChalamet 24th January 2024, 05:31 PM

Perhaps, I just think it'd be nice to give somebody else some recognition instead of the same names in more than one genre category!

Posted by: awardinary 24th January 2024, 05:45 PM

Is it quite likely that RAYE will be performing on the night? Maybe launching a new single?

Posted by: T Boy 24th January 2024, 05:49 PM

Not a single nomination for Pink. So disappointing.

Posted by: Jessie Where 24th January 2024, 06:00 PM

Have the full list of performers been revealed?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 24th January 2024, 06:29 PM

I get your point but having followed Raye and her story for a very long time and seeing her finally getting recognition I’m never gonna be mad at her finally getting her flowers !

Posted by: lewistgreen 24th January 2024, 06:31 PM

Just Dua Lipa confirmed so far

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 07:18 PM

She’s almost certainly be performing

Posted by: Bjork 24th January 2024, 07:43 PM

boygenius <3 hopefully they win best Int'l band
also love the nomination for Lana for int'l even though it will be 100% SZA, but i'm ok with it

the rest of nominations are a big mess my gosh

and total snub for Lewis

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2024, 07:47 PM

He has a Song of the Year nomination, but that's it.

Posted by: TheSnake 24th January 2024, 08:38 PM

Lol at it still being called 'Best Hip Hop/Grime/Rap' Act, when grime doesn't make the UK chart any more and hasn't done for years, its drill now.

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 24th January 2024, 08:51 PM

Incredible for RAYE

Also really impressed at the noms for Young Fathers, Boygenius and Caroline Polachek!

Posted by: JLJ 24th January 2024, 08:55 PM

Can’t quite understand some of these nominations.

Happy that Raye is getting recognition and her long awaited flowers. Maybe a BRITS performance could help push those album sales further too. (she’s not a new artist though but those other nominations are deserved). I think she could even get album too since there wasn’t a massive British album last year and Lewis isn’t nominated or Ed?!

Artists getting nominated without dropping an album as well (what is the criteria to be nominated you just need to have released a single) it’s hard to keep track

Nice to see females represented though.

Posted by: Roba. 24th January 2024, 09:33 PM

Nice for Kylie getting a international artist Nod. Wow at RAYE up for so many but you can't say it's undeserved. A year she's had!

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 25th January 2024, 12:14 PM

Annoyed that Nothing But Thieves got nothing… :/

Posted by: Danuary 25th January 2024, 12:20 PM

I think by brits logic Raye counts as a new artist as she only just put out her first album

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 25th January 2024, 12:44 PM

I wonder how on earth Mahalia counts though?

Posted by: Danuary 25th January 2024, 01:12 PM

no clue there

Posted by: Sour Candy 25th January 2024, 01:13 PM

It's crazy because there are ACTUAL new artists that could be nominated.

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 25th January 2024, 02:12 PM

Here's how I *think* it'll go down:

Best New Artist: RAYE [2nd Olivia; 3rd PinkPantheress]
Best Artist: RAYE [2nd Dave; 3rd Central Cee]
Best Group: Young Fathers [2nd Chase & Status; 3rd Blur]
Best International Group: Boygenius [2nd Paramore; 3rd Foo Fighters]
Best Dance Act: fred again... [2nd Becky Hill; 3rd Calvin Harris]
Best R&B Act: RAYE [2nd Mahalia; 3rd Sault]
Best Alternative/Rock Act: Bring Me The Horizon [2nd Blur; 3rd The Rolling Stones]
Best Hip-Hop/Grime Act: Central Cee [2nd Dave; 3rd J Hus]
Best Pop Act: Dua Lipa [2nd RAYE; 3rd Calvin]
Best International Artist: SZA [2nd Lana Del Rey; 3rd CMAT]
Best International Song: Noah Kahan [2nd SZA; 3rd Jazzy]
Best Album: RAYE [2nd Young Fathers; 3rd Blur]
Best Song: Dave/Central Cee [2nd Dua; 3rd RAYE] *They like awarding performers so I can't decide between Dua & Dave/Central here, but I imagine Dave should win but wouldn't be surprised if this is the one they gave to Dua*

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 25th January 2024, 02:17 PM

The genre categories are fan-voted, so I'll be very surprised if Bring Me The Horizon don't win Alt/Rock.

Same with Dua Lipa for Pop.

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 25th January 2024, 03:26 PM

Ohhh I will make some amendments based on those then. Thanks!

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th January 2024, 09:46 PM

Daily Mail are reporting that Sophie Ellis-Bextor is performing Murder on the Dancefloor at the BRITs!

Posted by: Jessie Where 26th January 2024, 10:02 AM

!!

I swear, if this turns out to be false it'll officially be the worst lie the Daily Mail have ever told.

Posted by: gooddelta 26th January 2024, 10:19 AM

Resurrect the Outstanding Contribution to Music and give it to Sophie!

Posted by: Liam.k. 26th January 2024, 10:45 AM

For sure!

This along with Kylie in talks to perform a hits medley… I’m so here for it!!

Posted by: Jessie Where 26th January 2024, 12:38 PM

My two faves performing in one night, I don't think I could take it.

All that would remain is a collab!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 28th January 2024, 10:42 PM

Speaking of weird 'Best New Artist' nominations, I think Dave takes the biscuit for this...

He was nominated for Breakthrough Act/New Artist in both 2018 and 2020! That passed me by at the time.

Posted by: Sour Candy 29th January 2024, 06:15 AM

Does that mean all new British artists are so awful that they have to nominate the old ones to keep it at least relevant

Posted by: Bjork 29th January 2024, 07:27 AM

^Yes It is well known that in the past they had problems reaching 5 nominees in some categories

Posted by: Liam.k. 30th January 2024, 03:43 PM

Think we all knew it would be happening but nice to see it confirmed!

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 30th January 2024, 03:46 PM

ICE CREAM MAN. Plz x

Posted by: Jαsє 30th January 2024, 08:12 PM

Watch it be Escapism

Posted by: Sour Candy 31st January 2024, 12:46 PM

Hope she'll do Prada in some form.

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 31st January 2024, 02:34 PM

It's absolutely going to be this (at the very least it'll be some kind of medley involving it. I imagine it'll be performed in some way or another)

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 1st February 2024, 12:59 PM

Voting for the genre categories is open now via Instagram! You can vote via commenting on their specific posts, and the winners are already looking fairly clear.

Alt/Rock: Bring Me The Horizon
R&B: RAYE
Pop: Dua Lipa
Dance: Becky Hill
Rap: CASISDEAD

Posted by: Danuary 1st February 2024, 01:08 PM

I do wish it wasn't a public vote for those, Becky Hill already won the award twice - Fred Again and Calvin Harris had huge years so one of them really ought to take it but clearly Becky has a more mobilised fanbase..

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 1st February 2024, 01:11 PM

Yeah, she'll probably win it as long as it continues. I can't see them not nominating her either.

Posted by: Frenchie 1st February 2024, 01:13 PM

Not sure I like the fan vote awards. Becky Hill is gonna win the Best Dance act award every year as no other dance act has the fan base who'll be voting every day.

Becky will have 3 Brits in as many years, whilst Calvin only has 2 over 10+ years.

Posted by: Bjork 1st February 2024, 03:41 PM

Is that so? I would have imagined Fred again has more fans than her since now his records can debut top 20, which is something she can not dream of... even Calvin I'd say has more fans... I wouldn't put Becky as someone with a fanbase...

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 1st February 2024, 03:49 PM

Becky is also the only one campaigning, telling people how to vote for her on her Instagram story.

Fred, Calvin and Barry haven't posted anything about voting being open (yet), whereas Romy has just put it on her story.

Posted by: RobBot 1st February 2024, 06:38 PM

I’d say she has more of a social media fan base. The type of people I know who listen to Fred Again would never be commenting on posts of his to vote for him at the BRITS. I’d say Becky has a young fan base who would do that but not as many casual fans like Fred Again, who would pop a new song of his on streaming when it pops up.

Posted by: lewistgreen 1st February 2024, 09:33 PM

Our hosts confirmed!

Clara Amfo, Maya Jama and Roman Kemp

Posted by: Steve201 1st February 2024, 09:47 PM

Ridiculous that the awards can be voted for 🙄

Posted by: lewistgreen 1st February 2024, 10:13 PM

I'm glad it's only the genre categories (of which I've voted this evening in) as I can imagine the stans ruining some of the other categories. I think they know what they doing by allowing the genre awards to be public voted as it limits but still allows for public interaction. It's no different to the NTAs for instance but there every award is public voted and no one bats an eye at that.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd February 2024, 09:08 AM

A bit boring really, I’d rather have another comedian!

Posted by: lewistgreen 2nd February 2024, 04:32 PM

Boring perhaps but they're solid presenters so it'll less likely be a cringefest like it has been previously.

Posted by: Liam.k. 12th February 2024, 09:34 PM

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Posted by: pippa 12th February 2024, 11:27 PM

Very proud moment for Kylie and extremely well deserved.
Congratulations Kylie.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 15th February 2024, 11:20 AM

Two new performers announced! Jungle and Rema.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th February 2024, 11:22 AM

I wouldn’t have guessed either of them as performers!

Posted by: Jessie Where 15th February 2024, 05:17 PM

Rema???

Posted by: Sour Candy 15th February 2024, 05:49 PM

Well nobody will tune in for them, that's for sure.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 15th February 2024, 06:31 PM

Yes, nominated for International Song of the Year with 'Calm Down'! Not a fan personally, but it was #6 in the EOY chart.

Posted by: Hadji 15th February 2024, 07:38 PM

I’d love for Dua to do a medley of Training Season and Houdini like she did at the Grammys

Posted by: Jessie Where 15th February 2024, 07:57 PM

It just strikes me as an odd choice of performer, not only is it a 2022 song but it's also the only thing of note he's done and at this point seems likely to do.

It's like if Kevin Lyttle had performed in 2005 or something.

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th February 2024, 08:51 AM

Becky Hill and Chase & Status confirmed to perform together.

Posted by: Hadji 16th February 2024, 11:28 AM

That means she’ll perform Disconnect. I hope she turns it into a medley and includes Never Be Alone

Posted by: Linds. 16th February 2024, 11:57 PM

Award shows aren't my thing at all unless Paramore are up for something so consider my interest peaked x

Boygenius will no doubt get best international group though smh

Posted by: Liam.k. 21st February 2024, 12:55 AM

Yes!

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 21st February 2024, 01:31 AM

I still think there should be best female anf best male. The music industry is so male dominated anyway, with women's music often looked down on compared to the male indie bands, that it's faieer, and doubles the winners, which csn only be a good thing ina celebration of music?

They can double the nominees all they like, but one of the 5 male acts will win, seeing as they eere what they nominated foe it in the first place!

Posted by: Sour Candy 21st February 2024, 12:05 PM

Hope they'll announce The Last Dinner Party as a performer soon.

Posted by: Hadji 21st February 2024, 06:16 PM

I’d rather Calvin performed with Rag'n'Bone Man instead of Ellie to save his latest single from flopping. Hopefully, he turns it into a medley and bring him out too

Posted by: Liam.k. 21st February 2024, 07:20 PM

He did a medley in 2019 so I can’t see that happening again this year.

I feel like there’s been a few performers revealed where it seems likely they’ll be singing past hits, so maybe RAYE will be able to sing something that’s not Escapism.

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 22nd February 2024, 08:36 AM

Tate McRae announced as a performer! Kind of unexpected, but so happy - she's amazing live.

Posted by: Scene 22nd February 2024, 09:43 AM

I wonder if Sophie Ellis-Bextor and The Last Dinner Party will perform a mash-up. Didn't she cover them on Live Lounge recently?

Posted by: Jessie Where 22nd February 2024, 04:00 PM

Yes, on Tuesday!

Posted by: Hadji 25th February 2024, 07:03 PM

I can do without Rema performing on Saturday and RAYE being nominated for new artist when she’s been on the scene since 2016

Posted by: lewistgreen 25th February 2024, 07:43 PM

It would've made sense to keep the previous name 'Breakthrough Act' as at least then the nominations fit the name?

Mahalia has also been around since 2016, Olivia Dean since 2018, PinkPantheress 2020 and Yussef Dayes 2016 too so let's not solely drag RAYE through the dirt here when only one act in the category debuted in this decade.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 25th February 2024, 07:56 PM

I agree, although Mahalia doesn't even fit that. Her 2019 debut charted higher than her second album!

Posted by: Padamic Tension 25th February 2024, 08:09 PM

The brit awards usually love a mashup.

Posted by: Hadji 25th February 2024, 11:18 PM

I thought PinkPantheress had been around since 2021 but still, she’s been around for a while and Olivia Dean’s only hit was in 2021 which was a Christmas song and RAYE has been having loads of hits since 2016

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 25th February 2024, 11:27 PM

PP first released a teaser of music in December 2020, and then her debut single came the next year - so you’re pretty much right.

Posted by: lewistgreen 27th February 2024, 07:40 PM

Chase & Status will receive the Producer of the Year award

Posted by: Liam.k. 27th February 2024, 08:11 PM

Is this something that actually gets recognised at the ceremony? I think I remember Fred Again won it in like 2020 but I don’t recall him accepting the award on the night.

Posted by: lewistgreen 27th February 2024, 08:14 PM

Yes it was David Guetta that won last year. Fatboy Slim presented the award to him.

However I don't think Fred again in 2020 or Inflo in 2022 went up to get their awards perhaps because they weren't there. I'm assuming because it's no longer a nominated category that if they're not in attendance then they won't be presented the award on stage.

Posted by: lewistgreen 28th February 2024, 07:16 AM

RAYE has been awarded her first win for Songwriter of the Year announced today

Posted by: Scene 28th February 2024, 03:16 PM

Is that a new award?

Posted by: Brer 28th February 2024, 07:10 PM

I think Producer of the Year is generally not be acknowledged on the TV broadcast unless it's a big artist (I remember Calvin Harris having the award presented to him on air once iirc?) - I guess C&S probably will have it presented especially as they're obviously there to perform.

Songwriter of the Year was introduced 2 years ago but it's another one that doesn't get publicised as much and doesn't have a shortlist. Ed Sheeran and Kid Harpoon won it the last 2 years.

Posted by: lewistgreen 2nd March 2024, 01:32 PM

Today's the day!

Red Carpet - 7:30pm on ITV2
Main Awards Show - 8:30pm on ITV

Posted by: lewistgreen 2nd March 2024, 03:30 PM

Confirmed Dua Lipa is opening the show and Kylie Minogue is closing it

Posted by: Severin 2nd March 2024, 05:42 PM

Still think the BRITS should bring back the Outstanding Contribution award for certain people who have been influential but long overlooked (Kate Bush, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Raduiohead - How the hell did Pink get one over any of them?).

You could award it just before the newer Global Icon award so you get a big name semi-contemporary performer (like Kylie) to close the show.

Posted by: Jessie Where 2nd March 2024, 06:00 PM

Quite simply because her label bought it for her!

Posted by: Severin 2nd March 2024, 06:03 PM

And that, right there, is why the awards never get taken seriously.

Posted by: T Boy 2nd March 2024, 06:22 PM

Not that I’d doubt that the label bought the award for her, but people are so quick to do down Pink at any given moment. To have still been relevant that far into her career as a solo female is an outstanding achievement and plenty of artists have been influenced by her. Just because you think someone else deserved it first doesn’t mean that she didn’t deserve it.

At the end of the day, it’s another round of music snobbery.

Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd March 2024, 06:34 PM

I am not working in the industry and don't have the insight in that sense, but award shows always seem to me like big puzzles - who is active, who is not, who is available, who is not, who is willing to actually put on a performance and who is not.... Who knows how many options the BRIT organization go through each year.

What baffles me is that they seem to have gap years with these "lifetime achievement" awards for some reason. There are plenty of stars out there who DESERVE it (like the ones Severin mentioned).

Posted by: JLJ 2nd March 2024, 06:37 PM

I’d agree here.

From the females who debuted across my generation she’s easily sustained longevity across the longest span (I’d say her and Beyoncé have remained consistently relevant) yet P!nk is always downplayed and never mentioned amongst the main females in the game when she’s more than worthy of receiving accolades like that BRIT.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 08:35 PM

Loving 'Training Season' at the moment great track to kick off the show with.

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 08:36 PM

Surprised Dua only sang Training Season! Was expecting at least a snippet of Houdini!

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 08:36 PM

Dua Lipa kicking off the ceremony with a very on point performance.

Posted by: Hadji 2nd March 2024, 08:36 PM

I’m surprised she performed just that. I was expecting her to sneak in Houdini or DTN. Shame she didn’t perform IDGAF in 2018 when it was a strong contender for #1

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 08:41 PM

'Escapism.' is easily my favourite song from that list - happy for RAYE!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 08:44 PM

2/3 of Green Day! Random

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 08:45 PM

Lovely win for Raye and she was genuinely heartened with her win.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 08:46 PM

Clips of 'I Saw' by Young Fathers on mainstream tv *.*

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 08:47 PM

Big win for Jungle.
I thought Blur may have taken that award.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 08:47 PM

Seems like Lydia is an official member of Jungle now, she’s been appearing in their press shots for the last few months too.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 08:49 PM

Great acceptance speaches from the first 2 winners of the night.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 08:53 PM

That Samsung “circle to search” feature looks completely pointless.

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 08:56 PM

I wouldn’t be too upset for an escapism reset tbh

Also miracle sounding very good tn! Ellie looks gorgeous too

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 08:56 PM

Ooh Calvin’s bringing the remix out!

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 08:57 PM

'Miracle' remains pretty banging and I liked the remixed switch-up of the production

the presenting is falling a bit flat for me so far

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 08:58 PM

Yeah, I much prefer comedians hosting.

The audience don’t seem that lively either.

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 09:02 PM

RAYE sweeping so far get your flowers queen

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 09:03 PM

I get what you mean, but I feel like it’s part of the “Brits” with the awkwardness of the people announcing it tho

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:04 PM

The audience is very reserved.
It's already a huge night for Raye even she doesn't win in any of the other categories.
Rayes win showing how wrong record labels often are.

Posted by: spiceboy 2nd March 2024, 09:10 PM

All credit to pink, I am a big fan myself, she is an incredible artist and deserves acknowledgement, it just stunk of record label buying it for promo for a brand new album.

Tbf very few people think she doesn’t deserve the award, it’s simply that others deserved it before she did. As said above Kate Bush and the Rolling Stones, literally how the hell they haven’t got it is gobsmacking. Then she remains the only non-British person to have win it and if you are going to award it to a none Brit then Madonna, Michael Jackson, Kylie Minogue, Cher and a whole host of others come to mind before Pink.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:13 PM

Caroline Polachek

Surprised that SZA won thought it'd be Kylie by virtue of her being there

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:15 PM

Go on BMTH! The guy from Young Fathers didn’t look happy lol.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:16 PM

SZA a shock win.
I had hopes for Kylie but expected Taylor Swift to win.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:18 PM

Tate is a brilliant dancer but what was going on with the vocals, she just gave up at some points

Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd March 2024, 09:18 PM

Brits have taste and guts to deny awards from Taylor Swift lol

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 09:20 PM

Taste for sza winning!

also tATE McRae shame she didn’t sing a medley with exes tho

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 2nd March 2024, 09:20 PM

No awards should be. Public voted ones are swarmed by hardcore fans, so boybands and Taylor Swift won. Othrr awards, even Oscars, are all about campaigns and who you know.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:20 PM

I thought Tate was miming.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:20 PM

Great to see Djo present the award! Perhaps he’ll be winning this time next year…

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:21 PM

Love RAYE but what a joke her winning best new artist was rooting for PinkPantheress there, she was even in the building.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:21 PM

Getting a little boring with Raye clearly going to sweep the night.

Posted by: No Sleeep 2nd March 2024, 09:21 PM

Raye should not have been in that category

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:22 PM

I don't feel Raye should have been in the category for new artist as she is around for a while now.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:22 PM

I wish Clara had solo hosted

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:25 PM

It’s like they knew it was a weak year for nominations, so needed to get publicity some other way and made it a record breaking night for RAYE

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:25 PM

Raye sweeping the board tonight.

Posted by: Calum 2nd March 2024, 09:25 PM

That Tate McRae performance was an embarrassment.

Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd March 2024, 09:28 PM

15 years from now people will look back and be like wtf why did Raye win all those? It's not like her success is on Adele levels, neither commercially nor critically.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:29 PM

Charli XCX get that brief 'Von dutch' promo

Posted by: No Sleeep 2nd March 2024, 09:31 PM

Yeah it’s just making her look like an industry plant

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:31 PM

Not Becky Hill

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:32 PM

I thought it would be 3 years in a row for Becky Hill.

Posted by: gooddelta 2nd March 2024, 09:34 PM

CASISDEAD is brilliant, unexpected but great win.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:35 PM

Casisdead!! Love an underdog.

Neil Tennant features on his album and is quite synthy, some here might actually like it

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:35 PM

Cassisdead winning

Posted by: LMFan 2nd March 2024, 09:36 PM

Clara is such a good presenter, she could have managed this solo. Roman isn’t a natural presenter imo, he’s very wooden tonight

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 09:39 PM

God this is awful all round, Dua doing a new song not a hit so started off dead as the audience didn't really know it. The presenting awful, horrible tacky things like doing shots. Tate whatever her name was absolutely awful. Raye talking about how she has been releasing music for 10 years winning best new artist.

It is just so flat and bad. Raye winning everything because absolutely no one else bothered to turn up and they need an angle for the papers tomorrow.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:42 PM

Very happy Dua Lipa won the award.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:43 PM

Ah, an actual RAYE loss now 'Houdini' was one of my favourite pop songs of last year, so g'won Dua I guess

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 09:43 PM

Dula peep

Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd March 2024, 09:44 PM

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:45 PM

Reggie & Bollie

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 09:48 PM

I feel like there should be a rule you can only be nominated in one genre, half the pop noms had been nominated in other genres already. Surely they can find enough artists to fill out each without repeating. Raye and Calvin for pop was just daft.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:53 PM

BoyGenius was always going to win that award.

Posted by: Hadji 2nd March 2024, 09:55 PM

Funny how RAYE hates Prada yet she performed it

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 09:56 PM

I was half expecting D-Block Europe to come out then, thank god they didn’t.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 09:58 PM

Lol not 'Prada' in that medley *_* otherwise, she was fabulous x

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 09:59 PM

Great performance but Raye got a long slot.

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 10:00 PM

Raye just always gives me budget Amy Winehouse vibes.

Posted by: Lukuzz 2nd March 2024, 10:01 PM

behave, Raye absolutely killed that she is one of the best live performers out there, absolute slayage

Posted by: Hadji 2nd March 2024, 10:02 PM

I just hope that Prada doesn’t get a reset

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 10:02 PM

RAYE killed it as usual! I’m surprised she started with ice cream man, I’m sure wishful thinking but I’d absolutely love that to register another chart entry!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 10:06 PM

So glad to see Chase & Status return to mainstream success! I wouldn’t have predicted that even a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Mart!n 2nd March 2024, 10:09 PM

Rema is coming for a reset

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 10:12 PM

Becky always brings the vocals!

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 10:14 PM

Becky Hill is like your drunk auntie at a wedding getting up to sing, sounds like she smokes 40 a day. Does her voice always struggle that much?

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 10:14 PM

Dance Alone by Kylie and Sia getting its few seconds of airtime there.

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 10:15 PM

Raye thinking WTF am I going to say on my next acceptance speech. Poor woman, even she seems embarrassed now.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 10:17 PM

Becky Hill always had a smokers sounding voice.
The Brits panel are loving Raye on an extraordinary level.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 10:18 PM

With that I think RAYE has broken the record for most wins in one night?

Posted by: Mart!n 2nd March 2024, 10:19 PM

The New Artist Award is a bit of a strange one, should have went to someone else, in my opinion.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 10:23 PM

Murder on the Dancefloor

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 10:26 PM

Flowers is the deserved winner from that category but her video recording was odd.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 10:28 PM

At least Rema’s live band is making this song slightly more tolerable.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 10:29 PM

I’m actually really enjoying this performance perhaps I should check out the original song again haha.

Posted by: Jade 2nd March 2024, 10:30 PM

Not the biggest 'Calm Down' fan but that performance was actually one of the better ones tonight, comes alive well on stage

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 10:30 PM

As much as I’m over calm down, I’m glad they switched it up a bit for this with the live band! It sounds great live this way!

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 10:33 PM

Rema was actually decent, I'm a bit in shock

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 10:34 PM

Completely removing the little suspense that was left by bringing him out!

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 10:35 PM

I’m so happy this album is getting its flowers, one of my favourite albums rver! Not like it was a tough competition tho oop

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 10:35 PM

Bringing out her old teacher has just made the whole night feel a bit fixed.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 10:36 PM

I did not expect Raye to win so many awards.

Posted by: No Sleeep 2nd March 2024, 10:36 PM

This Raye sweep feels so random. She hasn’t exactly dominated this past year

Posted by: Calum 2nd March 2024, 10:42 PM

I've not bothered with the BRITs for years, and tonight's just been a good reminder why. I like RAYE and she's a decent artist, but this (almost) complete sweep across the board is so odd. The goodwill towards her seems to have so much momentum more-so because of her story and the journey to get to where she is/was with the release of My 21st Century Blues, and not purely the music itself.

Bring it Kylie

Posted by: Padamic Tension 2nd March 2024, 10:43 PM

Kylie time

Posted by: Padamic Tension 2nd March 2024, 10:50 PM

How many more times are the presenters going to mention Raye.

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 2nd March 2024, 10:51 PM

Releasing music for 10 years

The Brits: here, have the best new artist award

!!!!!

Although we are talking about the cwremony that made up and rhen unceremoniously, deleted an award, just so that 1D could win an award one time. That was in return for them performing on the night, of course

Posted by: conorw 2nd March 2024, 10:53 PM

I can’t get you out of my head to reset as well as padam pleaseeee just for iconicness sake

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd March 2024, 10:53 PM

I’ve only just realised that CASISDEAD always wears a mask, that makes sense I thought he looked a bit uncanny!

Posted by: sammy01 2nd March 2024, 11:01 PM

Kylie sounded very ropey but she has the hits and seems genuinely nice.

Posted by: pippa 2nd March 2024, 11:04 PM

Kylie is such a down to earth and humble icon.

Posted by: Rooney 2nd March 2024, 11:49 PM

I like RAYE, but her clean sweep just feels so manufactured and a reaction to media backlash. Best Album? Really?!?!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 3rd March 2024, 12:33 AM

Raye deservedly swept . Escapism was literally everywhere worldwide and her breakthrough is not only inspiring but deserved !

Posted by: JLJ 3rd March 2024, 12:37 AM

Raye breaking records tonight.

Could we see quite a big impact re her album on the albums this week? I think it could get a lot of curiosity listens of the back of this and perhaps a sales boost too even a small sales boost would be enough though?

I do think she’s in a great position at the moment though regarding good will around her. I think if she follows up this album fairly soon (say early next year or even late this year with the first single) she could be in for quite a big sophomore album.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 01:13 AM

I forgot until I saw someone mention that Escapism didn’t chart at all for a while after it released, until it took off on TikTok.

I wonder where her career would be if that never happened!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 01:31 AM

It’ll be interesting to see the ratings for this tomorrow, I suspect they’ll be the lowest yet. Hopefully someone will post the ratings from the last few years to compare.

Posted by: JLJ 3rd March 2024, 01:45 AM

It’s a shame it’s a Saturday show now and not midweek like it’s been in the past because I imagine some of the target audience may well have been out while it aired. It could possibly do good on catch up? But I do imagine they may well be low but possibly enough to still win for its time slot? I always watch (more from habit just as a music geek) but I always record it and watch it around 15-20 minutes later so I can skip the adverts. Without fail I end up watching it in real time towards the end as well

Posted by: Brer 3rd March 2024, 02:31 AM

That was one of the most boring BRITs I've ever tuned in for, but I did really enjoy RAYE and Rema's performances (surprisingly so for the latter, I do like 'Calm Down' but I didn't expect the performance to be anything particularly interesting), Kylie was a good closer too. And tbf there were a few quite surprising award winners with most of those being pleasant surprises - thank god Becky didn't just get handed the dance award a third time in a row, was also happy with the wins for Bring Me The Horizon and SZA + nice to see a real curveball win from CASISDEAD although I'm not familiar with his music, it's just good to know they do sometimes give awards to completely unexpected people. RAYE winning Best New Artist is definitely questionable (out of all the winners of that award since 2016 the only one who had a top 75 hit before RAYE was Dua Lipa...!) but the nominee list for that was a trainwreck in general to be fair. I think all of her other awards were well deserved, I mean I'd have given AOTY to Young Fathers but that was never going to happen, her album was still very good.

The lowlight of the night (aside from the many completely flat attempts at humour from the hosts) had to be that terrible performance from Tate McRae - yes she's a good dancer but it's like she kept completely forgetting she's supposed to be a singer? Still love 'greedy' as a song but that performance did not sell it at all.

Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd March 2024, 06:17 AM

The same industry that rejected Raye in the first place is now rewarding her - you cannot make this shit up LOL

Anyway, great for her and I like her, but like I wrote earlier in this thread, the whole thing will look very odd in the future. And I wrote in the sales thread yesterday that the UK music industry needs new superstars. Dua, Ed and Adele cannot carry the whole industry on their shoulders forever.

Posted by: Jαsє 3rd March 2024, 06:28 AM

God the hosts were absolutely awful. Those flat and continued attempts at humour had me cringing so hard

Posted by: Bjork 3rd March 2024, 06:52 AM

I do like Raye but from the noms it was 100% clear the industry had decided she was gonna win it all
Don't think her album deserved it
But biggest Lol had to be Raye performing Prada
I suggested she was gonna do it and someone laughed saying she hated the song lol

Posted by: hlavkus 3rd March 2024, 08:30 AM

Just watched Becky Hill and Chase & Status performance, and I love that they invited the guy from C&S Boiler Room as a backup dancer

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 3rd March 2024, 08:40 AM

Well, that was a Brit Award ceremony I guess....

Unsurprisingly I have to agree that the hosting was not great this year, but that's pretty normal for the Brits. 'Escapism.' winning song of the year at the beginning was a decent start (although, it was predictable when RAYE had so many nominations), easily my favourite from the category by a long way. I didn't really know who was going to win best group (except for Headie X K-Trap) but Jungle's last album was great to very deserved (I think I would've preferred Chase & Status or Young Fathers tho). I'm impressed with RAYE's sweep but it does get a little boring when the same artist is continually going back and forth to the stage. Still kinda peeved about RAYE winning best new artist (I know this is like a career rebirthing for RAYE but she could've easily been nominated for it between 2018-2019 imo, same for Mahalia) but if she stopped Olivia Dean from winning it then we're good x. Dula Peep winning Best Pop from only releasing three singles, our flop kween delivered (she always gives a good speech as well)! Calvin winning Best Dance is a better result than what I thought would occur in that category but I fear everyone (bar Becky Hill) deserved the award more than him oop. Nice to see BMTH's first win, I really liked 3/4 singles they released last year but I think I would've preferred to see Young Fathers get the win (they looked pretty sad whenever they lost an award ). Underdog Casisdead getting an award was unexpected and expected for me at the same time I knew he had quite a dedicated fanbase so I'm sure they would've been constantly voting every day for this win (I still would've preferred to see Simz or Dave pick this one up). SZA winning was a huge shock but I'm over the moon for it, a much more deserved winner in comparison to Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift's works in late 2022-2023. Boygenius winning is pretty cool but Miley winning best song (I understand why tho ofc)

Dua's opening performance was solid! I'm also wondering why they didn't squeeze in 'Houdini' but nvm. The performance of 'Miracle' fell a little flat for me at first but the addition of the Hardwell remix towards the end picked up the pace for the better. Tate McRae & Jungle delivered pretty unmemorable performances oop. Tate performs 'Greedy' like that whenever she performs it unfortunately, I really don't like that style of singing two lines and then skipping six. An unremarkable performance from Becky Hill as well (even 'Baddadan' couldn't save it ). Agreed that Rema's performance was actually really good! It changed from a boring and bland song to a really fun track. I think Selena Gomez is the problem RAYE's performance was by far the best tho (she even made 'Prada' sound like a masterpiece, DBE could never). I'm yet to see the full Kylie performance as I fell asleep at the start lol.

Posted by: Cow P 3rd March 2024, 08:51 AM

Okay, Calvin needs to credit Hardwell if he decided to release that original x remix live edit (cuz he already did, with Hardwell uncredited).

Posted by: conorw 3rd March 2024, 10:04 AM

She’s put some foil Brits special cds of the album up a la Lewis Capaldi which got him #1 in the first week of Jan! They’re a fiver but shipping is £7 so not sure how many she’ll sell of those. Could be a small boost I’d imagine though

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2024, 10:59 AM

Yeah, and I actually haven’t denied that point. I just saying she deserved it regardless of that point and regardless of the fact that others may have deserved it too. I mean, you’d probably argue with me that Spice Girls deserved winning it just 3 years and 2 albums into their career before all those artists you’ve listed when really that was also a dubious award at the time. But they don’t get played down on this site the way Pink does so some other posters always target Pink’s success to play down first.

And just to clarify, I’m not saying you play down Pink’s success, I’m just stating that many here do.

As for the show, I didn’t watch as I was out last night and I don’t tend to bother with it these days anyway unless I really want to see someone perform. I’ll try and check out Kylie’s performance but I wasn’t too interested in this year’s show. I’m happy Raye has done well as she’s always seemed like a great person and it’s been sad to see her struggles just to get an album out there. I haven’t actually checked out her album, is it any good?

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 11:33 AM

I think it's already a given that The Last Dinner Party will win Best Group + New Artist next year

Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd March 2024, 11:36 AM

Hopefully!

Just watched some bits... Kylie was on autopilot in her medley, not sure if those "straight from the ESC" costume changes were good idea.

Posted by: Severin 3rd March 2024, 11:46 AM

If I was running the awards I would have a criteria in place that no artist can win the award until 25 years from the start of their career, so that their true contribution can be properly measured. With the benefit of hindsight the Spice Girls certainly warrant one for the impact they had but there was a definite whiff of cashing in on their popularity at the time.

As for Pink she'd be about eligible now, she's a very successful, talented and enduring artist but realistically she's not even close to being the most important female singer of her generation. Her influence is only just starting to be clear with people like Cassyette and may well be more obvious in the future. Her time would come.

Whereas, for example, Black Sabbath defined and invented an entire genre of music. Radiohead spawned a ton of bands in their wake. Kate Bush, The Rolling Stones, Joy Division, the list goes on. And as someone said if we're picking overseas acts - Presley, Abba, Kool Herc, Springsteen, Dylan, Prince, Madonna, Franklin, Kraftwerk, Grandmaster Flash and many more all have towering legacies to popular music that should be far ahead in the queue.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2024, 11:57 AM

But again, I haven’t stated that she deserved the award more than anyone else, just that she did deserve it. Loads of artists have one it less than 25 years into their career and yet Pink is the one gets criticised time and again. It’s clear why the Brits make their decisions on these things and that it’s usually opportunistic for them as much as the artist. Pink was launching a new album and they wanted her to perform so she got the award. Kylie got hers last night instead of any other year she could have had it because she’s had somewhat of a revival this year. I’m pretty sure Blur had a new album in the works when they won it. U2 and Petshop Boys also had new material out when they won. The fact is there is no queue and anyone arguing that the award is given purely on some measured merit and nothing else is deluding themselves. There aren’t enough years to give out the award to absolutely everyone that deserves it so there is always going to be another motive behind the choice-usually, who will actually come and perform? Kate Bush is one of my favourite artists but she will never come and perform at the Brits to receive the award.

I just tire of the playing down of Pink and her success as an artist. So many fit the bill of what people are complaining about but Pink is the one people go in on.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 12:22 PM

One thing that never really makes sense...

How can Blur + Young Fathers both be nominated for Best Album, but Jungle beat them to Best Group? Surely Jungle should've had a Best Album nomination too then?

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 12:45 PM

I just saw a red carpet interview with The Last Dinner Party from before the show where they were asked about St. Vincent presenting the award to them tonight - strange that it never happened in the end! Unless I missed it?

Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd March 2024, 01:09 PM

Whoa St. Vincent and LDP were there?? But instead we got a performances by Tate McRae and Becky Hill, lmao

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd March 2024, 01:23 PM

I only saw the first half of the red carpet show where Jack interviewed St Vincent but I had turned off before that finished so I can only assume it happened during that or at some point before the actual ceremony?

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 01:23 PM

TLDP were briefly spoken to in the audience, but weren't handed their award by anyone on stage.

Posted by: Severin 3rd March 2024, 02:29 PM

This is the point.

It isn't awarded on merit but it should be, or else it's meaningless

Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd March 2024, 02:59 PM

Wonder if Rolling Stones declined? They released a highly successful and decent new album last year too.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2024, 03:08 PM

But it is still awarded on merit regardless. Everyone to have received one has been deserving, it’s just that they also use opportunity to decide which of the deserving artists receive it when. The artists have still had long and distinguished careers even if it could be argued others are more deserving. We shouldn’t be trying to take anything away from them.

The fact is if you’re going to argue the point, the whole of the Brit Awards is meaningless and always have been. They’ve rarely been that deep.

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 3rd March 2024, 03:11 PM

Yeah they are meaningless. Industey patting itself on the back

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd March 2024, 03:13 PM

Jungle's album wasn't as acclaimed as those two, and it wouldn't really look very diverse to have exactly the same nominees in album as male/female/group, they've done it once before and it looked really bad. Saying that though, no idea why they won, Young Fathers and Blur made far, far more critical impact, that felt really random, almost like a compensation for their music being used in trailers? :')

I'm pleased for RAYE and it is nice to have a home-grown tale of success (and for someone that's not really a household name either), but it does feel less like a genuine moment and more the industry trying to have their cake and eat it, all these headlines and patting themselves on the back don't change that they initially rejected her and wouldn't have given her a second thought had she not had mainstream success.

Can't say there's a lot that excites me here otherwise, all pretty predictable bar Casisdead, was really hoping Caroline Polachek would win something but no </3

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd March 2024, 03:20 PM

2.5m in the ratings, down on last year's 3.3m

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 03:21 PM

Oof

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2024, 03:27 PM

I don’t get why they air it on Saturdays now, not that I’m certain it’d make a difference. I was out last night and the pubs and clubs were heaving and I really don’t think children and teenagers are that into the Brits these days.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 03:30 PM

The most recent weekday show (2022) had just 2.7m overnight figures, so I agree that it probably wouldn't have helped much.

Looking at its ratings history though, it's never really pulled in massive numbers - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_Awards#Viewing_figures

Interesting to see that it got to as low as 3.84m in 2014 though, before bouncing back up to 5.99 a year later. An Ant & Dec impact presumably.

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd March 2024, 03:31 PM

I wouldn't say younger people aren't into the awards but there's certainly alternative methods of consuming the hype and results without watching the show live on TV. Social media was really busy last night discussing the results and all of the results were posted on various apps and YouTube too so it's easier to get the snippets instead of sitting through 2 and a half hours of TV. ITVX viewing figures are not included in the overnights so it may bump up slightly if people were streaming or catching up (like I did this morning).

Posted by: Severin 3rd March 2024, 03:55 PM

This is where we fundamentally disagree, there are several recipients I wouldn't consider worthy of an 'outstanding contribution to music' award, but each to their own.

Posted by: sammy01 3rd March 2024, 03:57 PM

A few points, iirc the Spice Girls got the outstanding contribution to music award as someone pulled out who was going to get it (cant remember who it was).

The Brits also used to have a rule where you had to perform part of a hit in the eligibilty period, hence the Spice Girls did Wannabe into WDYTYA in '97. Dua got the night off to a really flat start by singing a song most people don't care for or haven't heard much. Dance the night away would have got it off to a much better start.

The silly really long catwalk stage design doesn't help anyone, it is too long. A normal stage with maybe a small catwalk or not at all with a proper pit of regular fans would bring more atmosphere. Also awards given out on the main stage too.

The presenters going into the audience to annoy artists who clearly don't want to be involved in silly skits needs to stop too. It is painful.

Don't nominate people in more than one category, Raye in R&B and pop makes no sense. Her speech for her R&B award she was saying how others fought for an R&B category to show it is worthy alone to then shove her in pop to to prop up another nomination was rubbish. There are plenty of pop artists to fill it.

Kylie should have gotten her award after her performance. It was odd to have her get the award then have the presenters waffle for 3 minutes while she gets ready to perform. Have the global icon perform then someone walk on and hand them the award and let them thank everyone.

Posted by: Brer 3rd March 2024, 05:03 PM

To be fair she only performed a small part of it and it was the acoustic arrangement which she put out to 'reclaim' the song I guess, I'm sure it's just the cassö remix specifically that she hates. (Although she should hate the original which is also awful too but xx)

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd March 2024, 07:26 PM

I was looking through the BRITs eligibility list, and it's interesting to see that the R&B Award covers 24 months:

Posted by: spiceboy 4th March 2024, 06:42 AM

I actually don’t think Spice Girls deserved it either and technically they did not win it. The award was changed that year from Lifetime achievement to Outstanding achievement in recognition of their record breaking success. For some reason it’s been forgotten and they get credited with a lifetime one. 🤷‍♂️ Pink deserves it more than them she actually has a lifetime in the industry only Melanie C does out of the girls, the rest gave up far too quickly once the success dried up.

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 4th March 2024, 03:12 PM

I was gonna aegue, but tou're right. They abandoned music like a sack of hot potatoes the second they got market corrected.

Posted by: Severin 5th March 2024, 06:08 PM

It was always Outstanding Contribution before that. It got changed to the Icon Award in 2012 so they could effectively give Elton John yet another one -