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Suedehead2
post 30th January 2019, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 30 2019, 09:48 AM) *
True enough - but it should be an easy win for the Tories nonetheless, and a dead certain one if she stands in the next GE!

Not necessarily. The Lib Dems won the Eastleigh by-election after Chris Huhne was jailed for the same offence.
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post 30th January 2019, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 30 2019, 11:37 AM) *
Not necessarily. The Lib Dems won the Eastleigh by-election after Chris Huhne was jailed for the same offence.


Extremely unlikely - the LibDem's have never even been close in Peterborough, and they had less than 4% in both 2015 & 2017.
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post 30th January 2019, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 30 2019, 03:00 PM) *
Extremely unlikely - the LibDem's have never even been close in Peterborough, and they had less than 4% in both 2015 & 2017.

Oh dear, do I really have to spell it out for you? Ah well, here goes. The Lib Dems might have been expected to lose Eastleigh given the reason for the by-election. They didn't. Therefore, it is wrong to assume that Labour will lose Peterborough.
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post 30th January 2019, 03:59 PM
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post 30th January 2019, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 30 2019, 03:55 PM) *
Oh dear, do I really have to spell it out for you?


no, I was making an ironic point!
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post 30th January 2019, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 30 2019, 12:37 PM) *
Not necessarily. The Lib Dems won the Eastleigh by-election after Chris Huhne was jailed for the same offence.


Peterborough was a marginal constituency for Labour though, won it by 607 votes in 2017, and was held by the Conservatives for 12 years prior, so it could be a close run one, especially if in the incredibly unlikely scenario that Fiona decides to run as an independent in the next elections or possible by-election.
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post 30th January 2019, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 30 2019, 04:25 PM) *
no, I was making an ironic point!


Yep, sure laugh.gif
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post 9th February 2019, 07:12 AM
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I see our friend Michael 'I love Corbyn' is learning to play the political game. wink.gif

He posted to me a 'quote' that 'Just six per cent backed Labour primarily because of their local candidate or MP' and claimed that it therefore wasn't Corbyn who lost the GE for Labour...

What he failed to mention was the source, which throws a whole different light on the matter.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/polit...n-a7840856.html

What the article actually said was that it was a survey of *Labour voters*, not the electorate as a whole, therefore we don't know how many people chose *not* to vote Labour because of Corbyn. thinking.gif
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post 13th February 2019, 10:23 PM
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Well John McDonnell calling Churchill a villain instead of hero will go down well with patriotic Brexit Britain....
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post 14th February 2019, 01:10 PM
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Well John McDonnell calling Churchill a villain instead of hero will go down well with patriotic Brexit Britain....

He was referring to Churchill's role in one specific incident, namely the Tonypandy riots where Churchill ordered the use of troops.

Most of Churchill's career was a disaster. Before 1940 he was loathed by millions of working-class people. It just happens to be the case that his greatest triumph was a bloody big one.
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post 14th February 2019, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Feb 14 2019, 01:10 PM) *
He was referring to Churchill's role in one specific incident, namely the Tonypandy riots where Churchill ordered the use of troops.

Most of Churchill's career was a disaster. Before 1940 he was loathed by millions of working-class people. It just happens to be the case that his greatest triumph was a bloody big one.


I made a comment along those lines in the Mail this morning.
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post 14th February 2019, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 14 2019, 02:36 PM) *
I made a comment along those lines in the Mail this morning.


He's great at selling insurance though....
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post 18th February 2019, 10:45 PM
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Derek Hatton, the far-left Militant member who was expelled from the Labour Party in the 1980s, has been readmitted to the party. Quite an apt day for it to happen, although interestingly according to his Wikipedia page he's since renounced his socialism and become a capitalist.
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post 19th February 2019, 07:03 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-...D-BLUNKETT.html

note the author - not a right-winger this time!
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post 19th February 2019, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 18 2019, 10:45 PM) *
Derek Hatton, the far-left Militant member who was expelled from the Labour Party in the 1980s, has been readmitted to the party. Quite an apt day for it to happen, although interestingly according to his Wikipedia page he's since renounced his socialism and become a capitalist.


deja vu.
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post 20th February 2019, 08:45 PM
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meanwhile, nothing to see here....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/f...bour-over-tweet

Stuart Maconie has tweeted he's regrettably felt the need to resign his membership. The number of people tweeting back the same should knock back the funding a bit each month. Yeah, doing a great job and it's just the horrid press lying about Labour to blame...
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post 23rd March 2019, 08:25 PM
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...and on the day 1 million try to protest peacefully Labour decide it's a good day to get some jerking off in instead:

Twatter today:

@UKLabour
Big weekend plans?
Why not join us on the #LabourDoorstep tomorrow?
Find an event near you 👇 #RebuildingBritain

Presumably they have a plan they are keeping to themselves on how to rebuild Britain when all the f***ing money dries up and jobs the poor depend on fritter away.

I despair at the blinkered idiocy on display.
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post 23rd March 2019, 10:30 PM
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Some people did have better things to do though John?
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post 24th March 2019, 09:56 AM
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Some people did have better things to do though John?


errr more important than sorting Brexit? Not as if they can't do that any other weekend of the last 3 years or the next 3 years, but no it just "co-incidentally" meant Labour-party activists weren't available. I was under the impression that Labour Party members were overwhelmingly in favour of a referendum at the conference where party-policy was agreed?

Speaking for myself, as a 30-year UNISON member and poster-putter-upper and picket-liner (when needed), I'm in favour of a referendum....
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post 24th March 2019, 09:57 AM
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errr more important than sorting Brexit? Not as if they can't do that any other weekend of the last 3 years or the next 3 years, but no it just "co-incidentally" meant Labour-party activists weren't available. I was under the impression that Labour Party members were overwhelmingly in favour of a referendum at the conference where party-policy was agreed?


Oh you're right. That march has sorted everything. Brilliant.
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