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Posted by: vidsanta 14th December 2019, 03:49 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50704706
It will campaign for changes to the voting system and the abolition of the House of Lords, he told Sky News
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I suspect that will cause problems for many here, as they *want* voting reform (dunno about HoL abolition) but don't like the potential messenger. 
Posted by: Brett-Butler 14th December 2019, 03:54 PM
Few people here (myself included) would disagree with changing to a more PR form of elections, as well as reforming the House of Lords, although as you mention, a lot of people would object to getting behind Farage to do so. Having said that, he has form taking somewhat niche ideas into the mainstream and turning them into government policy through parties worried about haemorrhaging votes to them (c.f Brexit), so could end up doing the same with this if he's lucky.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 14th December 2019, 05:00 PM
Another Farage party! Why doesn't he retire and put his feet up?
Posted by: Suedehead2 14th December 2019, 05:24 PM
QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 14 2019, 05:00 PM)
Another Farage party! Why doesn't he retire and put his feet up?
Because he's afraid that he will drop dead if he's off television for more than a few hours.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 14th December 2019, 05:32 PM
QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 05:24 PM)
Because he's afraid that he will drop dead if he's off television for more than a few hours.
LOL. Think he thrives on it.
Posted by: December Dong 14th December 2019, 05:49 PM
Urgh. He knows we on the left will have to get behind him on this. He'll be living for it.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 14th December 2019, 05:50 PM
QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 14 2019, 05:49 PM)
Urgh. He knows we on the left will have to get behind him on this. He'll be living for it.
Well he'll be unemployed soon.
Posted by: Santa Klaus 14th December 2019, 06:44 PM
I disagree with the abolition of the House of Lords, it certainly needs to be reformed in all areas but it provides a good check on the legislation being pushed through.
Posted by: Brett-Butler 14th December 2019, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(Santa Klaus @ Dec 14 2019, 07:44 PM)
I disagree with the abolition of the House of Lords, it certainly needs to be reformed in all areas but it provides a good check on the legislation being pushed through.
I want it reformed, where the Lords are chosen yearly by random ballot to serve a 10 year term. Still functioning as a scrutinising 2nd chamber, but more representative on the UK public.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 14th December 2019, 07:46 PM
QUOTE(Santa Klaus @ Dec 14 2019, 06:44 PM)
I disagree with the abolition of the House of Lords, it certainly needs to be reformed in all areas but it provides a good check on the legislation being pushed through.
Agreed. Reformed but not abolished. Pay docked too for Lords sleeping through proceedings.
Posted by: vidsanta 15th December 2019, 05:46 AM
QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 14 2019, 05:49 PM)
Urgh. He knows we on the left will have to get behind him on this. He'll be living for it.
It'll be hell for them, and for the LD's, if they're still serious about electoral reform.
Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 15th December 2019, 09:14 PM
Must be bored so he must!
Posted by: JanuarySaleSnake 9th January 2020, 04:14 PM
Some good ideas but I can't see this taking off much.
Still think there is a place for the House of Lords but it must be reformed.
Posted by: Jüpiter👑 10th January 2020, 11:12 AM
He can stick it up his hole
Posted by: Smint 27th July 2023, 10:40 PM
As loathe as I am to discuss this absolutely repellent man who has helped destroy this country economically and turn it into a mean-spirited reactionary hell hole (although prob if not him it would have been others) and there maybe some semblance of justification to his claims if the Chief Executive of a bank was breaking confidentiality, but this really effing grates that with all the horrors in the world - Climate Emergency, Cost of Living Crisis, NHS on its knees, No housing for the young etc etc.
So the Prime Minister, Home Secretary, BBC (our supposed impartial broadcaster) have been going on about this story as if it was the most important thing in the world (along with majority of all the foreign owned UK "newspapers" and of course GB News) and they got multiple resignations tout de suite. It really shows that the hard right need to flex its muscles and what they want they get - double quick. Really worrying precedent for the future and increases the power of this dangerous Trumpite exponentially. I'm sure if he stood as a candidate in the General Election he wouldn't get in anywhere for example.
Rant over - for now.
Posted by: Manjobee 27th July 2023, 10:50 PM
BBTory is to blame for Brexshit, as they GREATLY overexposed this vile toad, ans promoted him at every turn. He has more QT appearances than anyone else in HISTORY. He was on the news ALK RHE TIME. Eeevery last stunt was endlessly pored over.
Posted by: Smint 27th July 2023, 11:13 PM
And of course there's this element it too - GB News boss taking money from the UK taxpayers (NatWest is 40% owned by the Government and has lost £770 million). Kerching!
Posted by: Chez Wombat 27th July 2023, 11:18 PM
I fricking hate this story so fricking much. I do not give two shits that this arsehole can't open his precious bank account cos he's only wealthy rather than ridiculously wealthy, and while it does seem that yes, the CEO and the BBC definitely made a mistake spreading confidential information, because of his whining and need for attention after failing as a politician, this utter non story has been dragged out so so much longer than it should've been and yet another convenient distraction for the Tories and the right wing media to take the focus away from their failings and the fact we've just experienced the hottest month on record ever for yet another year. Some people have no money to even to open a bank account and yet actual parliament time and rolling coverage is spent discussing this shit and expecting us to care about this poor little rich person being discriminated against 
It makes me livid, I don't know if it's just the Titanic story and the government clearly trying to take focus away from them so much being fresh in my mind, but it's become more transparent than ever of the sheer inequality we are living under when throughout some of the worst crises we are living through, rich people's woes are the only thing worth reporting on.
Posted by: J00prstar 28th July 2023, 06:22 AM
Throwing my hand in as totally baffled by the bank story too.
Firstly it seems like a private matter, and secondly, perhaps some kind of revenge trap? Like the story of why was the bank account closed was literally headline news and everyone was clamouring for an answer, then a soon as they gave one it was "ooooooh, can't be saying that! You broke confidentiality you naughty bank!"
Posted by: Smint 28th July 2023, 10:08 AM
It's basically a huge power and money grab by the bullying hard-right establishment who ignore the logs in their own eyes (blatant corruption, vested interest, Russian interference, tax avoidance) but focus on a speck in another's eyes. Thought people were wising up to this crap after Brexit but nope this shit still flies in 2023.
Posted by: Iz 💀 28th July 2023, 11:47 AM
QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Jul 28 2023, 12:18 AM)
I fricking hate this story so fricking much. I do not give two shits that this arsehole can't open his precious bank account cos he's only wealthy rather than ridiculously wealthy, and while it does seem that yes, the CEO and the BBC definitely made a mistake spreading confidential information, because of his whining and need for attention after failing as a politician, this utter non story has been dragged out so so much longer than it should've been and yet another convenient distraction for the Tories and the right wing media to take the focus away from their failings and the fact we've just experienced the hottest month on record ever for yet another year. Some people have no money to even to open a bank account and yet actual parliament time and rolling coverage is spent discussing this shit and expecting us to care about this poor little rich person being discriminated against
It makes me livid, I don't know if it's just the Titanic story and the government clearly trying to take focus away from them so much being fresh in my mind, but it's become more transparent than ever of the sheer inequality we are living under when throughout some of the worst crises we are living through, rich people's woes are the only thing worth reporting on.
absolutely all of this, especially trying to sell it as a 'this could happen to you' story when both Farage's PEP status and his lack of wealth in a wealth-exclusive bank account are highly relevant factors.
planet's on fire, people can't eat and this is in the headlines. And it leads into other stories that are probably only tangentially related like Gina Miller's political party account being closed this morning.
QUOTE(J00prstar @ Jul 28 2023, 07:22 AM)
Throwing my hand in as totally baffled by the bank story too.
Firstly it seems like a private matter, and secondly, perhaps some kind of revenge trap? Like the story of why was the bank account closed was literally headline news and everyone was clamouring for an answer, then a soon as they gave one it was "ooooooh, can't be saying that! You broke confidentiality you naughty bank!"
More evidence of Farage being the most effective political operator in the country, few others are quite so canny as being able to bring down the leadership of one of the biggest banks in the country over a customer service dispute.