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 Dec 11 2011, 09:45 AM
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 I Was Born Free
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Seems to be the main issue is one of authenticity. She was aimed (by herself, by Interscope, by the mysterious money men) squarely at the blogosphere and the hipsters where she first gained some interest. She is not the first artist to do this, appealing to the alt/indie crowd, but has been the most successful. Would it have been different if she had gone the pop route. Yes, probably. Just seems to me like a lot of people feel conned by the name-change, lip-job, and hair-do. I personally don't find her very attractive (never have liked a trout pout) but I do like the music. Which actually isn't that alt. but is very very retro, like a 21st Century update of a doomed 60s chanteuse.
If she was forced to get the extreme image change because of them then that is disturbing but her family is not short of cash so isn't it plausible that she was the person who decided to get this done. Says more about her possible state of mind then... I just don't necessarily understand why, in this age of everybody getting botox and looking like mannequins, we are arguing about whether another 20-something has a plastic face. I don't like it but understand that it's something that happens now. |
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Dec 11 2011, 11:16 AM
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Mansonette
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Grebo seems to have nicely summed up te debate that's been raging about Lizzie/Lana for ages now nad quite frankly I don't really care whether she's authentic or not. One of the things that really pisses me off about certain aspects of the 'indie' scene is this continuing belief that authenticity is the holy grail. This is usually championed by people who can't see the irony of deliberately trying to be authentic. And often it comes at the expense of a decent tune or production. David Bowie was hardly being authentic when he pretending to be Ziggy Stardust or Aladdin Sane but rather creating a character. And these are two classic, iconic looks of 70s music. Oh and Kraftwerk weren't really robots (metaphorical or otherwise)
Lana's music is beautiful and evocative. I don't care whether she's authentic or what she looks like as I spend hardly any time looking at her (and much like Grebo she does little for me). The music is what matters |
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Dec 11 2011, 01:57 PM
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i thought you wore the hairpiece for style
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I am happy that I am not 'Lana Del Ray'.
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Dec 11 2011, 02:45 PM
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I Was Born Free
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QUOTE(Phaedrus Ráđúlfr @ Dec 11 2011, 01:57 PM)  I am happy that I am not 'Lana Del Ray'. I bet she's glad she's not 'Lana Del Ray' as well 
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Dec 11 2011, 06:00 PM
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I was talking about misogyny more than authenticity. But OK
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Dec 11 2011, 06:07 PM
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I Was Born Free
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Yeah that's true, but it's only mysogyny if we find out that men have written the songs or are responsible for those lines.
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Dec 13 2011, 11:49 PM
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There is something about her that feels quite forced but nevertheless 'Born To Die' is such a beautiful song. The chorus is fantastic. I didn't like Blue Jeans so much but Video Games was also stunning.
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Dec 14 2011, 09:17 PM
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not 152chris (☻‿☻)
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Dec 14 2011, 09:17 PM
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INVITE ME TO YOUR SYNAGOGUE
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Beautiful video (the ending especially), regardless of her and the song.
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Dec 14 2011, 09:20 PM
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not 152chris (☻‿☻)
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I agree about the ending though
 + this is kinda growin on me.
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Dec 14 2011, 10:36 PM
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bye dinner
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It's growing on me as well
 I don't like the ending though...When is it out in the UK..? 
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Dec 14 2011, 10:41 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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2012 is hers already
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Dec 14 2011, 10:49 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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OMG her eyes at 1:17 - 1:19 made me think I was straight for a second.
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Dec 14 2011, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(tonyttt31 @ Dec 14 2011, 05:49 PM) OMG her eyes at 1:17 - 1:19 made me think I was straight for a second. 
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Dec 14 2011, 10:53 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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QUOTE(Medicated Soap @ Dec 14 2011, 10:52 PM) ?? |
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Dec 14 2011, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(tonyttt31 @ Dec 14 2011, 10:49 PM) OMG her eyes at 1:17 - 1:19 made me think I was straight for a second. agreed... despite being very female, there is something weirdly androgenous about LDR.... she looks like a seriously successful sex change. Try saying that with a lisp. |
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Dec 15 2011, 12:13 AM
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bye dinner
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Her lips is the first thing that draws to me, it's very eye catching <_>
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Dec 15 2011, 05:55 AM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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So beautiful. Her facial expressions are scarily (and surprisingly) outstanding and incredible.
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Dec 15 2011, 12:32 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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She's no more fake or fabricated than Lady Gaga.
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Dec 15 2011, 02:12 PM
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I just had to see your face to feel alive
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I like the song just like Video Games even though I don't want to like her because she seems so forced.
I definitely think 2012 will be hers. This post has been edited by Atonement: Dec 15 2011, 02:13 PM |
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