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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ The same song in the chart twice
Posted by: ► ▲ N 15th March 2015, 05:39 PM
so Sam Smith is in the chart with 'Lay Me Down' at #18 and (presumably) #1, the comic relief version being #1 and the original #18.
The last time it happened was Bastille 'Pompeii', which after the BRIT awards re-appeared at #21 (live version/mash-up with Waiting All Night) and at #20 (original).
Any other occurrences of this?
Posted by: Jester 15th March 2015, 05:39 PM
Do you mean the same artist or different artists, same songs?
Posted by: ► ▲ N 15th March 2015, 05:40 PM
Both I guess, but it's more impressive when it's the same artist as usually they get combined
That reminds me of a good example from 10 years ago, when Sunset Strippers 'Falling Stars' and Cabin Crew 'Star 2 Fall' were both in the top 10. Different artists/titles but they may as well be the same song really!
Posted by: Jester 15th March 2015, 05:42 PM
True!
I just thought of Hallelujah being 1 and 2 in 2008…..
Posted by: AntoineTTe 15th March 2015, 06:02 PM
Don't Stop Believing
When I Fall in Love in Dec 1987
Wonderwall in Dec 1995.
It happened a lot more in the 50s/60s when people would cover each others songs.
Posted by: Dircadirca 15th March 2015, 06:08 PM
I feel like this happens more often than not with X Factor winners (though not top 40 for the most recent one).
Posted by: Robbie 15th March 2015, 06:18 PM
I just thought of Hallelujah being 1 and 2 in 2008…..
Posted by: Robbie 15th March 2015, 06:28 PM
Amy Winehouse had two versions of 'Valerie' in the top 40 at the same time in 2007, a version with Mark Ronson and a solo version.
Posted by: Doctor Blind 15th March 2015, 06:40 PM
"Living Next Door To Alice" was in the chart twice for many weeks in 1995.
The Gompie version got to #17, but the Roy 'Chubby' Brown/original got to #3.
Posted by: themileshuntclub 15th March 2015, 06:49 PM
There were two versions of The X Files theme in the Top 10 simultaneously in 1996, if I remember correctly.
Posted by: ˇbré! 15th March 2015, 06:52 PM
I believe there were two concurrent entries for 'Je T'aime... Moi Non Plus' by Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin for a couple of weeks because it was released on two different labels.
On a similar note to 'Pompeii / Waiting All Night', Tinie Tempah's 'We Bring The Stars Out' charted in the same week as both 'Pass Out' and 'Written In The Stars' (and 'Miami 2 Ibiza' wasn't too far outside the top 40 as well).
Posted by: fchd 15th March 2015, 06:59 PM
Yes, w/e 4/10/69 16 & 3, w/e 11/10/69 33 & 1
Posted by: ETH▲N 15th March 2015, 07:04 PM
There was a joint No1 with two versions of the same song on 11/12/1953~
01 01 Frankie Laine ~ Answer Me
04 01 David Whitfield ~ Answer Me
Posted by: jaynesangel 15th March 2015, 07:05 PM
Leona Lewis was number 2 with 'Better in Time/ Footprints in the Sand' and number 25 with 'Footprints in the sand'. (w /e 16 March 2008). If both versions counted together she would have been number one ('Mercy' by Duffy was number one).
Posted by: paulgilb 15th March 2015, 07:47 PM
The original version of I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) by Proclaimers and the re-recording featuring Brian Potter and Andy Pipkin (confusingly with the brackets in a different place) were in the chart simultaneously in 2007.
26/7/86 had 2 versions of Lulu - Shout at #41 and #51.
12/6/76 had 2 versions of Shangri-Las - Leader Of The Pack at #47 and #43.
In August 1990 Janet Kay featured on 2 versions of Silly Games - a re-issue of her 1979 original, and a re-recording with Lindy Layton.
Posted by: Jack 15th March 2015, 08:28 PM
You Got The Love / You Got The Dirtee Love
I think they were in the charts at the same time.
Posted by: Suedehead2 15th March 2015, 09:50 PM
Versions of Alicia Keys' Empire State Of Mind with and without Jay-Z charted simultaneously.
Posted by: fchd 15th March 2015, 10:57 PM
Blur's 7" of "Country House" was listed separately to the main CD/12" due to the maximum number of formats being reached - the 7" was at 59 in w/e 9/9/95 while the main entry was at number 2
A similar event happened four months earlier, with Oasis. In their example, the 12" of "Some Might Say" was separated out and poked its nose into the charts at no. 71 in w/e 13/5/95 while the main entry was number 2.
Posted by: ˇbré! 15th March 2015, 11:06 PM
You mean Jay-Z's Empire State Of Mind charted simultaneously with Alicia's solo version
It's not her song.A similar event happened four months earlier, with Oasis. In their example, the 12" of "Some Might Say" was separated out and poked its nose into the charts at no. 71 in w/e 13/5/95 while the main entry was number 2.
I was well aware of Oasis but never knew that happened for Blur as well!
Another example, ATB's '9PM (Till I Come)' had two different imports charting simultaneously for at least one week.
Posted by: themileshuntclub 15th March 2015, 11:38 PM
A similar event happened four months earlier, with Oasis. In their example, the 12" of "Some Might Say" was separated out and poked its nose into the charts at no. 71 in w/e 13/5/95 while the main entry was number 2.
What's more, if I remember rightly, if the sales for the 12" had been added to the other formats, it would have kept Oasis at Number 1 for a second week, in front of Livin' Joy's Dreamer.
Posted by: Mango 16th March 2015, 11:53 AM
They came at 9PM, not 5PM
Posted by: DanChartFan 16th March 2015, 02:39 PM
Two versions of the Crazy Frog, the original Crazy Frog himself, and that Pondlife cover version.
The fifties saw many, but the ultimate occurence would surely have been 4 versions of Unchained Melody in the same week, by Jimmy Young, Al Hibbler, Liberace and I forget the fourth one.
Posted by: fchd 16th March 2015, 03:30 PM
Wasn't that different "songs" - the Crazy Frog one was a cover of "Axel F" and the Pondlife just random "Ring Ding Ding"-ing
Posted by: fchd 16th March 2015, 03:34 PM
18/6/55
2 - Al Hibbler
3 - Jimmy Young
17 - Les Baxter
=20 - Liberace
There were also 3 versions of "Stranger In Paradise" in the charts that week
4 - Tony Bennett
10 - Tony Martin
12 - Four Aces
and 2 versions of "Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White"
1 - Eddie Calvert
5 - Perez "Prez" Prado & His Orchestra
Posted by: Suedehead2 16th March 2015, 04:03 PM
2 - Al Hibbler
3 - Jimmy Young
17 - Les Baxter
=20 - Liberace
There were also 3 versions of "Stranger In Paradise" in the charts that week
4 - Tony Bennett
10 - Tony Martin
12 - Four Aces
and 2 versions of "Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White"
1 - Eddie Calvert
5 - Perez "Prez" Prado & His Orchestra
Can you imagine the Buzzjack Chart Show thread in a week like that?
Posted by: Graham A 16th March 2015, 04:27 PM
In the 50's it was very common for multi versions of the same record in the chart. Simply because of the old publisher system. That worked by song writers going to the music publishers or working inside them instead of recording the song themselves. The music publishers would then go to the labels with the songs for the A&R men to listen too. Often around the same table. In EMI for example a chap from each imprint of the record company would be there. They would say that song could be sung by an artist(s) on there books. With very popular songs nearly all the artists would record it, if they could sing it. Each record company would be approached in this way. There could be as many as 20 recordings or more of a very popular song. The artist would often have little say in what they recorded. The system started to fail when Lennon & McCartney came along.
It's likely that the early NME charts excluded some of these versions, because of the way it counted the information. I understand that the NME would phone shops up and ask for say the 20 best sellers. Each shop would supply this list, but the shop didn't list the sales. Instead the number one was given 20 points and the 20 I point. However some records were only sold at dealers of certain labels. If there was not enough of these shops in the sample, there records would not get sufficient points to make the chart. There was no weighting, so if a big branch outsold a certain record by all the other shops taking part, it would only get 20 points for it's number one not say 600 to balance the sample.
Posted by: ► ▲ N 16th March 2015, 04:44 PM
yeah they were different but Pondlife probably wouldn't have existed if it weren't for Crazy Frog as it was an obvious rip-off/cash-in
Posted by: gavindeejay 16th March 2015, 04:48 PM
There were two versions of 'Cha Cha Slide' in March 2004 - one from DJ Casper and one from MC Jig which both charted at the same time.
Posted by: Lewis17 16th March 2015, 05:40 PM
Two versions of Michael Jackson's Black Or White charted at the same time, the original release peaking at no.1 and the C&C Remixes at no.14.
Posted by: scratchy23 16th March 2015, 06:14 PM
When We Collide - Matt Cardle
Many of Horror - Biffy Clyro
Both in the top 10 at the same time in 2010.
Posted by: AntoineTTe 16th March 2015, 07:24 PM
It's likely that the early NME charts excluded some of these versions, because of the way it counted the information. I understand that the NME would phone shops up and ask for say the 20 best sellers. Each shop would supply this list, but the shop didn't list the sales. Instead the number one was given 20 points and the 20 I point. However some records were only sold at dealers of certain labels. If there was not enough of these shops in the sample, there records would not get sufficient points to make the chart. There was no weighting, so if a big branch outsold a certain record by all the other shops taking part, it would only get 20 points for it's number one not say 600 to balance the sample.
Very interesting. Thanks.
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