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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Kylie and Dannii Minogue _ KM94 - Sainsburys Exclusive

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 21 2018, 10:12 AM

Out today!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Sep 21 2018, 10:13 AM

This will all out I'm sure very quickly.

Posted by: Mikee1981 Sep 21 2018, 10:17 AM

Only Sainsbury's near me is on way out of the city, last time I went twice and sold out so dont think I'm even going to bother venturing that way

Posted by: pippa Sep 21 2018, 12:24 PM

Another lovely surprise for the fans and something to add to the collection.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 21 2018, 12:31 PM

And of course there are already loads on eBay ranging from £40 to £175 mad.gif

Posted by: pippa Sep 21 2018, 12:32 PM

These people must sit and watch out for exclusives and buy in an instant.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 21 2018, 02:01 PM

Hopefully we will have 2 Kylie albums in the Top 75 next week then.

Have to say I’m slightly disappointed they reissued KM94 so soon after the official reissue the ‘Be With Records’ label done of the album - literally the only difference is the colour of thee Vinyl, a bonus track or something would have been a welcome addition!

Posted by: pippa Sep 21 2018, 02:17 PM

I wonder will it sell as good as Light Years did?

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 21 2018, 02:19 PM

Would be fantastic if it could replicate the success of the Light Years vinyl, but that album is a much bigger fan favourite so I'm unsure.

Posted by: pippa Sep 21 2018, 02:22 PM

That is what i was thinking too.
That said, Light Years managed to return to the Top 40 so realistically this may make a low entry in the Top 75.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 21 2018, 02:23 PM

I think from a fan perspective it wouldn’t have sold as good as the LY vinyl but I think the people trying to make a quick buck by selling them on eBay (There are about 30+ listed already!) will mean they will all sell out and should go Top 50 at least!

Posted by: pippa Sep 21 2018, 02:27 PM

That would be a good result purely from a chart perspective, not good that the wrong people get their hands on a copy.
I would like to see Kylie have 2 albums once again in the Top 75 at the one time.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 21 2018, 02:53 PM

Looks as though it’s getting a mainstream release on standard black vinyl on October 5th as it’s listed as a pre-order on all Amazon sites (But not the UK yet) - https://www.amazon.de/Kylie-Minogue-Vinyl-LP/dp/B07GRV89X2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1537541425&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=kylie+minogue+vinyl

BMG obviously cashing in on her recent success after BMG/Deconstruction gave the rights to ‘Be With’ music lable a few years ago and it’s still available on their website! Hopefully Impossible Princess will appear next!

Posted by: pippa Sep 21 2018, 06:33 PM

I would be very excited for an Impossible Princess release.
I would class it a must have.

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 21 2018, 06:56 PM

The Amazon releases say that it’s a white vinyl in the description!

QUOTE
Kylie Minogue's self-titled album from 1994 appears for the first time in 24 years on LP in white vinyl! Contained include the hit singles Confide In Me and Put Yourself In My Place and the fan favorite songs Surrender, Automatic Love "and" Dangerous Game. For better dynamics, a clearer and more precise sound, the album was remastered by Matt Colton at the legendary Alchemy Studios. This LP is a must for every true Kylie fan!


Other than colour, the difference between this and the Be With version is that this is 1xLP only, Be With was 2xLP (which always struck me as a bit excessive for a 10 track album).

Interesting that it’s BMG that is behind this new version. Hopefully Impossible Princess is in the pipeline too. If that one ended up being Sainsbury’s Exclusive, I’d fear the prices that people would try and sell it for on eBay. Fans will definitely fall over themselves to try and get a copy of that one.

I find the eBay prices for KM94 ridiculous, it’s not like this is a first time pressing. drama.gif These sellers may have shot themselves in the foot anyway if the Amazon version is the same.

I wonder how many copies were made available in Sainsbury’s? Honestly I’m so over these Sainsbury’s exclusives, the sticker may as well say “eBay Exclusive” lol. So many listings. drama.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 21 2018, 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Sep 21 2018, 07:56 PM) *
I wonder how many copies were made available in Sainsbury’s? Honestly I’m so over these Sainsbury’s exclusives, the sticker may as well say “eBay Exclusive” lol. So many listings. drama.gif


This! On last count there were 100+ listings for the album, I stopped in a huge Sainsburys store tonight to see if they had any left and the girl working on the music section said they had 11 copies delivered and somebody came in and bought them all mellow.gif

I’ve ordered the version from the Amazon German website - £21 including delivery dance.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 22 2018, 12:39 PM

Pleased to see these not going for crazy prices on eBay due to the fact so many of them are listed and it’s almost identical to the previous reissue and the same as the Amazon one that’s coming in October.

The current selling price seems to be around £35 so not a great profit for the ones trying to scam the fans (About £9 profit taking away the cost of the vinyl, and eBay and PayPal fees). I guess we should thank them for making it sell out and contributing to hopefully a high chart entry tongue.gif

Posted by: slowdown73 Sep 22 2018, 12:42 PM

Is this album still being reissued on CD?

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 22 2018, 02:24 PM

QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Sep 22 2018, 01:42 PM) *
Is this album still being reissued on CD?


BMG/Deconstruction already done a double CD set of this and IP - I guess they could put them both into production again? I’m surprised they haven’t updated Hits+ (I’m secretly hoping for a vinyl release of that too).

Posted by: Mikee1981 Sep 22 2018, 05:17 PM

I decided to make the trip and got a copy ;-), they had 2 in stock

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Sep 22 2018, 06:53 PM

I cant see hits plus ever getting any sort of re-release.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 22 2018, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Mikee1981 @ Sep 22 2018, 06:17 PM) *
I decided to make the trip and got a copy ;-), they had 2 in stock


Congrats on actually finding a copy in-store cheer.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 23 2018, 01:12 PM

Hopeful that this will return to the Top 40 officially - Sainsburys are tweeting they are sold out in most locations, also the recent double vinyl reissue has just sold out on the Juno store so both versions should count towards the chart cheer.gif

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 24 2018, 04:31 PM

OCC:

QUOTE
Finally, Kylie Minogue’s self-titled 1994 album could re-enter the Top 40 following an exclusive white vinyl release (27), while her latest album Golden rebounds 21 places to 35 as she kicks off her UK arena tour.

#27 for KM94!

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 24 2018, 04:33 PM

Great result and similar to LY (I think it’s first midweek update was #23?), should hopefully just make the Top 40 or at least be very close to doing so.

Posted by: pippa Sep 24 2018, 04:36 PM

They are wonderful midweeks positions.
It looks positive for Kylie to have 2 Top 75 positions for this week.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 24 2018, 05:00 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Sep 24 2018, 05:36 PM) *
They are wonderful midweeks positions.
It looks positive for Kylie to have 2 Top 75 positions for this week.


I’m fully expecting both to be at least Top 50, I’m hopeful KM94 will be able to just hold on to a Top 40 place

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 24 2018, 07:06 PM

I've noticed that quite a few copies on eBay haven't been selling today, including one with a starting bid of £29.99 (+ a £5.99 postage charge on top of that, but that was still one of the cheaper ones going).

Quite a few of these eBay sellers are going to be disappointed that they're not making big profits out of this one!

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 24 2018, 07:52 PM

^^ Yes so pleased that they are not selling for crazy prices, there are so many of them listed it’s brought the price down to about £25 with free shipping so literally zero profit for the ones who bought them all in order to make money. A lot of KM fans have realised the European version is going to be the same (Minus the ‘Sainsburys Exclusive’ sticker laugh.gif ).

Pleased they are not making money out of this after being so greedy but they have helped nicely with the midweek position - might make them think twice when the next ‘exclusive’ is released! I think demand is a lot lower for this generally as it was originally released on vinyl and then the double vinyl re-issue a few years back so this is really only one for the completists.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 25 2018, 04:24 PM

Amazon seem to be stocking the original CD (Rather than it being sold by a 3rd party) so wonder if BMG have put it into production again? I’ve ordered a copy in the hopes that it’s sealed as despite owning various versions of the album I don’t have a sealed CD copy and plus it will be an extra chart sale for this week along with the Sainsburys and BeWith vinyl I purchased plus at least 1 full album stream a day tongue.gif

Posted by: pippa Sep 25 2018, 04:29 PM

It would be good to see it in back in production and possible pick up some extra sales for the album.
This vinyl release will help bring at least some attention to the album.

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 26 2018, 08:19 AM

How much did KM94 vinyl cost in Sainsbury’s by the way?

Posted by: aeroco Sep 26 2018, 08:25 AM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Sep 26 2018, 09:19 AM) *
How much did KM94 vinyl cost in Sainsbury’s by the way?


£18

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 26 2018, 08:29 AM

Thank you! *.*

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 26 2018, 12:09 PM

Sainsburys seem to be restocking like they did with Light Years - went in one on my break earlier and they had 2 copies out.

Posted by: pippa Sep 26 2018, 01:37 PM

If they are re-stocking it means it is selling which is wonderful.
I hope we get midweek chart information today.

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 26 2018, 07:16 PM

#37 on the update today.

Posted by: pippa Sep 26 2018, 07:49 PM

If i remember correctly the week Light Years returned both it and Golden were very near to each other on the chart at numbers 36 and 38.
Could it happen again?

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 26 2018, 08:10 PM

Hopefully stores restocking will mean the album can stay Top 40. Think you could be right about them appearing at similar, close positions.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 26 2018, 11:22 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Sep 26 2018, 08:16 PM) *
#37 on the update today.


Falling faster than LY did nocheer.gif Should still make the Top 50 though!

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 28 2018, 04:51 PM

Returns to the UK albums chart at #67! (Although OCC have it as a new entry for some reason... maybe because of the change in label)

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 28 2018, 04:51 PM

Re-enters at #67 - Sainsburys have also said stores would be recieving more stores I Today.

Glad it’s charted, it helps show the record company once again there is a demand!

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 28 2018, 05:00 PM

Other charts:

Vinyl Albums - #4
Physicals - #21
Sales (Physicals and Downloads) #25

Posted by: pippa Sep 28 2018, 05:45 PM

It dropped much further than i expected.
A 30 place drop from the last midweek position we got.
That said, great to see it back on the chart and second time this year Kylie has 2 albums in the top 75 region of the chart.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Sep 28 2018, 06:12 PM

Does anyone know what the total sales would be?

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 28 2018, 07:28 PM

Unfortunately no sales total (yet... fingers crossed I'll be able to find out). Back in 2009 it was revealed to have sold 121,608.

QUOTE
Kylie Minogue’s eponymous fifth album – a No.4 success in 1994 – sold 1,071 copies on vinyl before being deleted. It has now been reissued as a Sainsbury’s exclusive on white vinyl, in which format it sold 1,587 copies last week to re-enter the chart at No.67. Meanwhile, her latest album, Golden – No.1 in April – climbs for the fifth straight week, advancing 56-40 (2,138 sales), a 14 week high.


Interesting to know that it previously only sold 1,071 copies on vinyl. I assume that would include the original 1994 release and the 2016 Be With Records re-release?

I wonder if it sold any copies via CD/download/streaming this week? Surely there must have been a bit of streaming at least? #66 sold 1,590 overall, but the above quote states KM94 sold 1,587 vinyl copies to land at #66, but that's not necessarily its full weekly total. thinking.gif It makes me wonder whether 1,587 actually includes a few sales from other formats.

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 28 2018, 07:35 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if it receives 0 sale-equivalent streams most weeks given Confide In Me and Put Yourself in My Place won't be counted (the top 2 streamers of an album don't get included, right?).

Would be interested to see what it's trickle sales are though, so hopefully we get an updated total.

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 28 2018, 08:00 PM

They're included, but they're "neutralised"!

"The 2 album tracks attracting most streams are neutralised to the level of the average of the next 10 highest
streamed tracks associated with the album (or all tracks where album has < 12 tracks).
When establishing the revised streams for neutralised tracks from an album, the average streams applied to
neutralised tracks will be based on streams of all ISRCs linked to the 10 single products used in the
calculation. (See Appendix 1 Figure 3).
After the methodology above is applied, the streams of the top 12 tracks (or all tracks where an album < 12
tracks) making up the album are aggregated together and converted to create the “Streaming album DUS”,
using a conversion rate of 1,000 streams = 1 album sale.
A new album DUS is created from adding together the physical album DUS, digital album DUS and the
streaming album DUS. (See Appendix 1 Figure 3)"

http://www.officialcharts.com/media/654984/official-uk-album-chart-rules-july-2018.pdf

Complicated laugh.gif

Posted by: pippa Sep 28 2018, 08:01 PM

Does anyone have an estimation of what the album overall sales are?

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 28 2018, 08:05 PM

Thanks Jay, yeah very complicated! laugh.gif

QUOTE(pippa @ Sep 28 2018, 09:01 PM) *
Does anyone have an estimation of what the album overall sales are?

I think Light Years sold 12k between 2009 and 2018 so I guess KM94 might be just over 125k by now.

Posted by: pippa Sep 28 2018, 08:08 PM

Total UK sales for KM94 are only around 125,000, is this correct?
I had believed the album was close to 400,000 UK sales.

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 28 2018, 08:17 PM

Afraid so! It debuted at #4 which was pretty good considering the #15 debut of her previous album, but it fell away quickly before a mini resurrection when it returned to the Top 40 briefly.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Sep 28 2018, 09:41 PM

I thought maybe 175-200,000 but it's world wide sales are around half a million.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 29 2018, 07:33 AM

Amazing that it’s sold the same as Golden has - Golden seems like a huge success whilst KM94 felt like it underperformed massively, I wonder what Deconstructioms expectations were for the album? Surely they would have been wanting 300,000+ in the UK.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Sep 29 2018, 10:00 AM

Easily they would have hoped for platinum.If you think of how different the sales climate is now to then, if golden was released during a period of higher sales it would be a much bigger selling album, comparing the sales markets then snd now golden is a much greater success than km94.

Posted by: ___∆___ Sep 30 2018, 05:33 PM

With KM94 out of the way I’m guessing IP will be next - I need that vinyl version in my life but am already dreading the thought of getting a copy and the eBay prices as I think an IP reissue would be huge drama.gif

Posted by: liamk97 Sep 30 2018, 05:36 PM

I think an Impossible Princess vinyl would be slightly more popular than KM94 too.

Posted by: ___∆___ Oct 9 2018, 10:32 AM

My white vinyl of KM94 arrived from Amazon Germany today (Identical to my Sainsburys copy minus the ‘Sainsburys Exclusive’ sticker laugh.gif ). This seems to have a standard release across Europe as it’s available on amazon France and Germany - such a shame they released it in such limited numbers in her biggest market especially as HMV are stocking a huge back catalogue of vinyl now, her albums really should be available.

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 10 2019, 02:02 PM

Few people are saying they have found this in Sainsbury’s this week reduced to £13 - random for them to reappear (Of course the white vinyl is also available on Amazon for £15 minus the ‘Sainsburys Exclusive’ sticker).

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 10 2019, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Oct 9 2018, 11:32 AM) *
My white vinyl of KM94 arrived from Amazon Germany today (Identical to my Sainsburys copy minus the ‘Sainsburys Exclusive’ sticker laugh.gif ). This seems to have a standard release across Europe as it’s available on amazon France and Germany - such a shame they released it in such limited numbers in her biggest market especially as HMV are stocking a huge back catalogue of vinyl now, her albums really should be available.


Def agree, all her albums should be ready available on vinyl.

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 10 2019, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Aug 10 2019, 10:03 PM) *
Def agree, all her albums should be ready available on vinyl.


Rumours have been swirling for a long time that BMG are planning something now that they own her PWL and Deconstruction material. If the runours are to be believed once they have got SBIT out of the way we will get regular versions of her PWL albums on vinyl available everywhere followed by her Deconstruction albums - fingers crossed!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 11 2019, 01:32 PM

I think Ip is the vinyl most fans would like next.

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 12 2019, 07:09 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Aug 11 2019, 02:32 PM) *
I think Ip is the vinyl most fans would like next.


It’s the one that will cause a frenzy although I’m more than happy for BMG to take their time with it and give us something special for IP!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 12 2019, 08:27 PM

Ya it needs to be done right and when it happens I'd love to see it make a top 40 return.

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 12 2019, 08:47 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Aug 12 2019, 09:27 PM) *
Ya it needs to be done right and when it happens I'd love to see it make a top 40 return.


The right package with availability across all retailers could see IP do very well!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 13 2019, 01:49 AM

Yes, it should do well if it was released and widely available, different colour vinyls would be great.

Posted by: pippa Aug 13 2019, 01:35 PM

There is a hunger for an Impossible Princess vinyl among the fans.
Should the release proceed it is likely to be a limited release, if this assumption is correct, i hope there is at least 5,000 pressed.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 14 2019, 12:14 PM

5k would easily sell as they would not be all bought in uk, I really hope they do this though.

Posted by: pippa Aug 14 2019, 01:24 PM

3K sales in the UK on the right week could result in a Top 30 placement.
That said, i would greatly welcome IP making any form of a Top 40 return.

Posted by: Jay ☆ Aug 14 2019, 01:42 PM

A member on Popjustice posted this yesterday:

QUOTE
Expect Impossible Princess and the rest of the catalogue she owns. From what I've heard, those are next in the line. Originally, they were coming out around Glastonbury, but I think they've pushed it towards Q4 to match with the Step Back In Time boxset they're doing later this year.


https://forum.popjustice.com/threads/vinyljustice.36603/page-754#post-7031041

Posted by: Medellíam Aug 14 2019, 01:47 PM

Oooh, a Step Back in Time boxset? I wonder what that entails... Also it's pleasing to hear we'll be getting an Impossible Princess vinyl - the fans have been calling out for it for ages and that artwork would look stunning as a 12-inch! wub.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ Aug 14 2019, 02:11 PM

I haven't heard Impossible Princess all the way through yet ( drama.gif I really should find a moment!).

Intrigued about the supposed Step Back in Time box set too... I want a Golden Tour / Glastonbury DVD tbh *.*

Posted by: Medellíam Aug 14 2019, 02:15 PM

It's an album that I have to be in the mood for as it does deviate from the pop sound I love from Kylie, but there's some great moments here. 'Limbo' and 'Dreams' are two particular highlights, with the latter being one that Kylie pop fans would love too.

Also yes for the Golden Tour / Glastonbury DVD! *.* Surely they must be planning something with the Golden Tour footage?!

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 14 2019, 02:55 PM

I’ve mentioned it before but we are DEFINITELY getting vinyl reissues from BMG for all the work they own (PWL sand Deconstruction) - due to the amount of reissues the PWL albums have already had and the fact that the Cherry Red sets can’t be bettered then they will be straight forward reissues.

The Cherry Red license expires hence why the box sets are discontinued/reduced to clear on their site and the ‘Be With’ deal only covered KM94.

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 14 2019, 02:56 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Aug 14 2019, 03:11 PM) *
I haven't heard Impossible Princess all the way through yet ( drama.gif I really should find a moment!).


ohmy.gif It’s her greatest work!

Posted by: AJ. Aug 14 2019, 04:12 PM

A SBIT box set is super exciting, and yessss at IP coming, that artwork is stunning

Posted by: pippa Aug 14 2019, 06:09 PM

Impossible Princess is certainly worth a listen in full.
I also recommend giving the album time and multiple plays if you have time as after a few listens the tracks really stay with you.
I am super excited to learn the IP vinyl is in the works, this is a mist have item.
The SBIT boxset sounds exciting but i have fears the price could be high for this.


Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 15 2019, 02:00 AM

Def will be getting both these, really excited to see what both will feature.

Posted by: pippa Aug 15 2019, 01:12 PM

On both releases if Kylie could go on the promotional trail it could reap big rewards for her.
If the IP vinyl gets a real push it will sell in strong number on release.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 16 2019, 01:18 AM

Ya I can it been popular but nearly all its sales will be week 1.

Posted by: pippa Aug 16 2019, 12:52 PM

It would be very much a release for the fans and would have little no appeal outside the loyal fanbase.
That likely applies to most of Kylie's recent vinyl releases.


Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 24 2019, 03:48 PM

The white vinyl for KM94 has been reduced to £13.97 on Amazon cheer.gif

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kylie-Minogue-VINYL/dp/B07GRV89X2/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?keywords=kylie+minogue+step+back+in+time&qid=1566661581&rnid=1642204031&s=music&sprefix=kylie+m&sr=1-14

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 25 2019, 08:06 PM

^^ Price reduction has made it jump up 42,000+ places on Amazon laugh.gif Probably sold 3 copies but getting those extra sales for KM94 dance.gif

Posted by: dandy* Aug 29 2019, 08:42 AM

I just bought it! Thanks for the link happy.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 29 2019, 09:30 AM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Aug 29 2019, 09:42 AM) *
I just bought it! Thanks for the link happy.gif


Glad you got one at a great price - it seems to have been selling well all week cheer.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 30 2019, 01:47 AM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Aug 25 2019, 09:06 PM) *
^^ Price reduction has made it jump up 42,000+ places on Amazon laugh.gif Probably sold 3 copies but getting those extra sales for KM94 dance.gif


Sales are sales and its climbing!!

Posted by: ___∆___ Aug 30 2019, 01:26 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Aug 30 2019, 02:47 AM) *
Sales are sales and its climbing!!


Hopefully it will encourage BMG to give us everything on vinyl next year - KM94 has sold well on the format considering it was originally available in 1994, then released as a double vinyl disc edition in 2016 and now the white vinyl version.

Posted by: pippa Aug 30 2019, 01:48 PM

When it comes to the time for releasing Impossible Princess on vinyl which i would hugely welcome i would also be interested in the album getting a new CD release at the same time.
Ideally this would be made available as a bundle.
Having all Kylies catalogue available on vinyl is needed and important and there is demand for this format.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 31 2019, 02:58 AM

I can't see that happening as the CD already had a re release

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