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 10th December 2019, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 10 2019, 09:51 PM)  As I've said many times before - there is none. It is a rhetorical device, and quite an effective one at that. The Boris Johnson (with a little help from Dominic Cummings) have fine-honed their persuasion skills to come up with short, effective phrases that stick in the brain and connect with potential voters (Oven Ready, Get Brexit Done). It's something Labour haven't done to the same extent - I couldn't tell you what their main slogan is (I remember "For The Many, Not The Few", but they've used it for years, quite wordy, and it opens itself up to mockery & parody). And, of course, the shorter the slogan, the more vacuous it is likely to be. Leading up to one election the Lib Dems said that their slogan would be just two words. The fear that the slogan would be particularly vacuous were vindicated when they unveiled the slogan "My Vote". We really have reached a sorry state when a six-word slogan is considered too verbose. |
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10th December 2019, 10:04 PM
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Esher and Walton now being listed as Tossup between Tories and Libs!!!
Raab out pls |
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10th December 2019, 10:06 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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Tossup for the tosser. Yes please, even if it is a Tory majority - seeing Raab out will be the saving grace!!
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10th December 2019, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 10 2019, 09:50 PM) Anyone seen his version of the doorstep scene from Love Actually? It's on Youtube, quite funny. It’s incredibly embarrassing and missed the whole point of that scene from the actual movie which was that Christmas was a time for being honest. He doesn’t know the meaning of the word. |
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10th December 2019, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(Envoirment @ Dec 10 2019, 10:03 PM) Latest update for the Yougov MRP model. Con 339 (-20) Lab 231 (+20) Lib Dem 15 (+2) SNP 41 (-2) Plaid 4 (0) Green 1 (0) Other 1 (0) https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/ So a 46 seat majority then. About what me and Vid predicted. |
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10th December 2019, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 10 2019, 10:08 PM) So a 46 seat majority then. About what me and Vid predicted. 28 not 46 |
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10th December 2019, 10:11 PM
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The yougov MRP model is now within hung parliament territory given the error margins. If Labour can continue to gain even 1-2% over the next day or so left, we'll likely end up with a hung parliament. Given the last few days appear to be in Labour's favour, so I wouldn't be surprised if their support continues to increase. Not to mention how close so many seats still are on the MRP model and the potential for tactical voting.
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10th December 2019, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(Botchia @ Dec 10 2019, 10:11 PM) 28 not 46 That doesn't include NI. Realistically the majority would be ~15-20 based on the poll. A majority that small would make it difficult for Boris to stick to his deadlines without asking for extensions/trying to force a no deal. |
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10th December 2019, 10:20 PM
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IDS essentially neck and neck!!
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10th December 2019, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Botchia @ Dec 10 2019, 10:11 PM) 28 not 46 Sorry their maths better than mine. Still think it'll be as many as 60 though. |
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10th December 2019, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Botchia @ Dec 10 2019, 10:04 PM) Esher and Walton now being listed as Tossup between Tories and Libs!!! Raab out pls i read this as Esther McVey 
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10th December 2019, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Santa Klaus @ Dec 10 2019, 10:21 PM) i read this as Esther McVey She's tipped to be Foreign Secretary if Rabb loses his seat. |
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10th December 2019, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 10 2019, 10:26 PM) She's tipped to be Foreign Secretary if Rabb loses his seat. That sounds like an attempt to persuade wavering voters to let Raab win by threatening somebody even more clueless in the Foreign Office. |
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10th December 2019, 10:33 PM
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I just hate the Tories. I hate them!! Farage and his brexshit party are even WORSE though!!
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10th December 2019, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 10 2019, 10:33 PM) I just hate the Tories. I hate them!! Farage and his brexshit party are even WORSE though!! Well don't worry as Farage will never get any power. |
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10th December 2019, 10:37 PM
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Spending the last 30 minutes poring over the data has given me butterflies in my stomach and I don't even want to imagine how I will feel at 22:45 CET on Thursday.
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10th December 2019, 10:42 PM
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Good ones, Harve?
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10th December 2019, 10:51 PM
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In more lighter, less Tory related news for once, has anyone seen the Jeremy Corbyn 'mean tweets' thing on Twitter?
 I genuinely really like him and can't understand all the hate, he's the most connected I've felt with a politician before.
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11th December 2019, 12:56 AM
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He's an absolute legend Aul Jezza, the attack that annoys me most is saying he 'supports the IRA' such BS like and being an Irish man know the right wing press say this because the idiot right wing working class in England believe it and have that 'get behind our boys' mentality.
Saw on the news yday then interviewing people in the north of England saying they will support Boris because 'he's going to get Brexit done' - and one was a woman in a wheelchair ffs, how stupid are people ?! |
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11th December 2019, 01:05 AM
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Well after reading the latest leaflet from Stephen Timms any thoughts I was having of voting Labour have vanished.
"I can announce that I would vote remain in any second referendum"  Then he spends a paragraph rubbishing Boris's deal and says it's much worse than Theresa May's for workers rights, creates massive red tape for exporters and creates a Northern Ireland - Great Britain border. He says that if Boris has confidence in it he should put it to a public vote as soon as possible in 2020 if re-elected. Goes on to say the Tories will sell the NHS to the Americans.  No mention whatsoever of his leader, Jeremy Corbyn. Same old crap. Still he knows his seat is safe. |
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