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BuzzJack Music Forum _ News and Politics _ Dead British girl, 14, has been cryogenically frozen

Posted by: Common Sense 18th November 2016, 09:11 AM

A 14 year-old British girl who has died of cancer loved life so much that she's asked to be cryogenically frozen at a cost of £37,000 to her parents in the hope that one day they may be able to bring her back to life.

Walt Disney is also frozen I believe.

She lived in London with her mum who was separated from her dad. It required the signatures of both parents and her father refused to sign. It went to court and the judge granted permission just before she died on Oct. 17th. She's now frozen in the US.

Posted by: vidcapper 18th November 2016, 09:30 AM

That raises an interesting issue : would people here want to be cryogenically frozen?

Personally, I would not.

First off, it must be a million to one shot at best, so I'd rather my family inherit the money it would cost

Secondly, on the outside chance it worked, the world of the future would be so changed that it'd be virtually impossible to handle, let alone the knowledge that everyone you knew was dead...

Posted by: Common Sense 18th November 2016, 09:58 AM

Also it assumes they've found a cure for her cancer by then too.

Yes I would do it if I can afford it. I have been considering it before I read this. I remember starting a thread on DS about it. Why not? As she said in her letter to the judge, better than being buried and rotting. Just been reading about it and apparently there's an annual fee too. So who will pay that when her parents have died? Only 4 places do it, three in the US and now one in Russia. It's illegal everywhere else. Some people have just had their heads frozen.

Posted by: Common Sense 18th November 2016, 10:06 AM

I think they should also allow people who are about to die to be put in to a coma and cryogenically frozen. If they have the money and it's their decision and they're certainly dying within hours/days then why not?

Posted by: vidcapper 18th November 2016, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Common Sense @ Nov 18 2016, 09:58 AM) *
Also it assumes they've found a cure for her cancer by then too.

Yes I would do it if I can afford it. I have been considering it before I read this. I remember starting a thread on DS about it. Why not? As she said in her letter to the judge, better than being buried and rotting. Just been reading about it and apparently there's an annual fee too. So who will pay that when her parents have died? Only 4 places do it, three in the US and now one in Russia. It's illegal everywhere else.


Didn't realise it was actually illegal. ohmy.gif

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Some people have just had their heads frozen.


Yes, I've encountered some of them on Usenet! laugh.gif

Posted by: Danvember 18th November 2016, 10:52 AM

I wouldn't. Rather just live my life and know I'll be gone forever at the end of it than have false hope that I'd be able to come back (as it does seem incredibly unlikely that it'll work)

Posted by: spun. 18th November 2016, 11:14 AM

I wouldn't bother being frozen, as mentioned, they might never find a cure and I'll be long frozen when I could be at peace in the form as ash, and being frozen isn't really ideal. Good luck to the girl (and Walt) though!

Posted by: Iz~ 18th November 2016, 11:18 AM

Definitely? It'd be the only way to see what continues to happen to humans after I die, so if there's a chance, I'd take it. Then I'm also one of those people who never buys the trope of immortality being a curse either.

And if it becomes a common enough thing there would be a job involving acclimatising new arrivals to ~the future~, which is a job I'd volunteer for in a heartbeat.

Posted by: troublepink 18th November 2016, 12:52 PM

I'm not sure if I'd want to do it. It would be pretty cool to see what the world is like in the future, but when it comes to time travel topics, I've always wanted to live in the past (like 1700's era). I'm much more interested in how people lived before us, without all the modern technology, than what the world would be like in the future.

I heard about this news this morning and my first thought was the South Park episode laugh.gif


Posted by: Oliver 18th November 2016, 02:39 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Nov 18 2016, 11:18 AM) *
And if it becomes a common enough thing there would be a job involving acclimatising new arrivals to ~the future~, which is a job I'd volunteer for in a heartbeat.


Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror. laugh.gif

Posted by: vidcapper 18th November 2016, 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Nov 18 2016, 11:18 AM) *
Definitely? It'd be the only way to see what continues to happen to humans after I die, so if there's a chance, I'd take it. Then I'm also one of those people who never buys the trope of immortality being a curse either.

And if it becomes a common enough thing there would be a job involving acclimatising new arrivals to ~the future~, which is a job I'd volunteer for in a heartbeat.


been watching Futurama by any chance? wink.gif

Posted by: Iz~ 18th November 2016, 02:58 PM

Not lately, although of course I have seen that - if I were thinking of anything I'd be thinking of one of the episodes of Star Trek when they find frozen 20th century people in space (that one with Khan and then that one with Picard preaching about how humans have evolved beyond such base needs as money). I know my sci-fi, is all. But it's just a logical step, if only we were waking up noblemen from the 18th century or the 14th century or whenever, then I'd love to be the one to give them a run down of what's been going on in the past hundreds of years that they've been asleep.

Posted by: ʟɪɴᴅsᴇ 18th November 2016, 04:43 PM

I wouldn't. Like I don't believe it's as simple as 'find a cure, bring back the dead'... there's bound to be other complications. I can't believe this is actually a thing. Plus its "playing god" in that you're deciding when you want to die rather than just passing naturally when it's your time.

Posted by: Jade 18th November 2016, 04:52 PM

Well death is my ultimate fear so yes bring me back please. x

Seriously though, I wouldn't want to do life again with the absolute closest people to me dead. So I would maybe have to get them to agree to this too, then I'd probably do it kink.gif Very intriguing prospect~

Posted by: ʟɪɴᴅsᴇ 18th November 2016, 05:34 PM

#IcePact

Posted by: Common Sense 18th November 2016, 05:59 PM

The more I've thought about this today the more I want to do it. Imagine them waking me up in 1000 years time!!!

Posted by: ʟɪɴᴅsᴇ 18th November 2016, 06:03 PM

#AccidentalMelting

Posted by: Chez Wombat 18th November 2016, 06:37 PM

I would kinda love to do this (probably not at that cost though), it's the closest you get to actually having a second chance at life. That said, it depends on the age, I probably wouldn't want to do it if I died of old age/natural causes as if you DO actually wake up, you'd...still be old/close to death, although who knows what technology will be capable of then? (Different can of worms there soz)

Posted by: Common Sense 20th November 2016, 04:22 PM

QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Nov 18 2016, 06:37 PM) *
I would kinda love to do this (probably not at that cost though), it's the closest you get to actually having a second chance at life. That said, it depends on the age, I probably wouldn't want to do it if I died of old age/natural causes as if you DO actually wake up, you'd...still be old/close to death, although who knows what technology will be capable of then? (Different can of worms there soz)



You can just have your head frozen though. Then if they could bring it back to life it would be attached to a brand new body grown in a lab. Some people opt for head only and some for full body.

Posted by: mr_pmt 20th November 2016, 07:17 PM

So what happens if the power supply cuts out?

Realistically though, even if a cure is found you can't reverse death. blink.gif

Posted by: T Boy 20th November 2016, 07:25 PM

The present is so unappealing, I can't see myself going out of my way to make it to hundreds of years in the future tbh.

Posted by: Mango 21st November 2016, 12:00 PM

Obviously with scientific and technological advances these days, you can't rule anything out in the future, but I'm genuinely struggling to see how you could possibly reverse death. But then again, who would have thought 200 years ago that there'd be huge 6-tonne metal machines that would be capable of flying around the world at great speeds?

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