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 30th December 2018, 06:54 AM
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 Paul Hyett
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The normal ratio is 100 streams = 1 sale, but is this really the best ratio, now that streaming is the dominant method of consuming music?
How many of us actually listen to new song 100 times anyway (say within one year)?  Also, some tracks get listened to just once, so see if people like it - but even if they don't, they still count towards the charts. That doesn't seem quite right to me. This post has been edited by vidsanta: 30th December 2018, 07:25 AM |
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30th December 2018, 09:30 AM
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Only song I've listened to over 100 times this year is Shallow. Usually max 50 times.
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30th December 2018, 09:53 AM
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Just to be clear, it’s not 100 of your own streams of a song that equals 1 sale as that would take ages. It’s 100 streams in general. I’m sure you get that but your OP doesn’t read in that way
 It’s very easy for a song to accumulate 100 streams in total from the general public and anyway I believe an individual’s streaming of a track that counts towards a sale is capped daily? My most played track of 2018 has 61 plays? Well that’s what last.fm has scrobbled but I know that some here will well succeed that
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30th December 2018, 10:02 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Dec 30 2018, 09:53 AM)  Just to be clear, it’s not 100 of your own streams of a song that equals 1 sale as that would take ages. It’s 100 streams in general. I’m sure you get that but your OP doesn’t read in that way It’s very easy for a song to accumulate 100 streams in total from the general public and anyway I believe an individual’s streaming of a track that counts towards a sale is capped daily? My most played track of 2018 has 61 plays? Well that’s what last.fm has scrobbled but I know that some here will well succeed that 1. Correct 2. I'm not sure there's a daily cap? 3. Probably the only songs I listen to anything like that much are Ellie Goulding, and Lana Del Rey. |
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30th December 2018, 10:15 AM
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yes yes theres a daily cap to avoid cheating
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30th December 2018, 10:22 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Dec 30 2018, 10:15 AM) yes yes theres a daily cap to avoid cheating Even if I loved a song, I couldn't listen to it that many times, or I'd go loopy! 
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30th December 2018, 10:23 AM
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If I like it probably around 30-40 times. I'm not sure I've listened to any song 100 times!
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30th December 2018, 10:54 AM
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My most played tracks of 2018 are at 76 (God's Plan), 72 (Sicko Mode) and 63 (Nice For What) plays, so not even one sale for any of them
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30th December 2018, 10:55 AM
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The daily cap is 10 streams per day per user.
This daily cap was introduced from the beginning on. |
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30th December 2018, 10:56 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Dec 30 2018, 10:15 AM) yes yes theres a daily cap to avoid cheating IIRC I think the cap is 10 plays per user in a day? |
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30th December 2018, 10:57 AM
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I can’t say I listen to the same song 100 times within a year via Spotify. I’d say 50 at max!
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30th December 2018, 10:58 AM
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I'd say around 77 approx.
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30th December 2018, 11:01 AM
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Obviously I don’t know if this could be done but I’ve always thought streams should be calculated by if a person adds it to their own library or playlist and that should count as one sale no matter how many times they play it. To me that is the same as downloading a song. So say they like a song on Hot Hits they add that to their library and that’s one sale that’s the same as listening to song on the radio and going to buy it from iTunes.
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30th December 2018, 11:58 AM
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12 songs have crossed the 100 plays mark for me this year.
Including 1,150 for Close To Me and 750 for Fuego
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30th December 2018, 12:17 PM
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oh my
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30th December 2018, 01:01 PM
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I don't count how many listens on my device but I voted 26-50 as I usually add them to my playlist for up to 6 weeks max!
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30th December 2018, 01:15 PM
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I don't know what my most streamed tracks for this year are but it's safe to say most, if not all, are on ACR! They are mostly from before the 00s...
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30th December 2018, 02:02 PM
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It’s quite rare for me to play a particular track 100+ times overall!
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31st December 2018, 05:21 AM
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If I like it, over 100.
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31st December 2018, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(darrens94 @ Dec 30 2018, 11:01 AM) Obviously I don’t know if this could be done but I’ve always thought streams should be calculated by if a person adds it to their own library or playlist and that should count as one sale no matter how many times they play it. To me that is the same as downloading a song. So say they like a song on Hot Hits they add that to their library and that’s one sale that’s the same as listening to song on the radio and going to buy it from iTunes. I like the idea but it'd make the chart a lot easier to rig |
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