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Posted by: April 26th January 2015, 05:36 PM



I thought it would be useful to have a separate thread for discussion relating solely to the 30th Anniversary week in February. Here's a summary of what's been announced so far:Tonight, a trailer for the 30th Anniversary week will be aired for the first time following the programme at 8:30pm.

Any day-to-day discussion can continue in the http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=170164.

The official 'Live' week schedule:

Monday - The first ever episode will be aired on BBC Red Button, Graham Norton EastEnders Special on BBC One at 10:45pm
Tuesday - 30 minute episode at 7:30pm
Wednesday - 30 minute episode at 8pm
Thursday - 1 hour episode at 7:30pm [reveal of Lucy's killer] and 30 minute episode at 9:30pm [flashback episode]
Friday - 30 minute LIVE episode at 8pm

Posted by: Toby 26th January 2015, 06:00 PM

It was Tracy.

Posted by: April 26th January 2015, 08:33 PM

The trailer is soooooo creepy! ohmy.gif


Posted by: liamk97 26th January 2015, 08:41 PM

Ooh, exciting! Now wait for people to rip the advert apart for clues! biggrin.gif

I think Ronnie will come out of her coma on anniversary week, hopefully surviving! Also, looking forward to who else will be returning - I'm sure someone will remain unconfirmed until the episode is broad-casted.

Posted by: Toby 26th January 2015, 09:22 PM

Did Stephen King direct that trailer?

Posted by: Jay ジ 27th January 2015, 09:05 AM

Incredible trailer! The hand prints on the steamed up window was very creepy!

Posted by: pippa 27th January 2015, 02:12 PM

The build up is just wonderful, i feel as excited about this live episode and reveal as i did for the who killed Archie live reveal.

Posted by: barbaric_dan 27th January 2015, 02:30 PM

Exciting

Posted by: liamk97 27th January 2015, 04:47 PM

What sort of ratings are people expecting/hoping for? Looking back at the lead up to the 25th anniversary, episodes were averaging just under 11m whilst the live episode had over 16m, so assuming ratings this year will continue to average 8m, the live episode should get 12-13m which is pretty outstanding for TV ratings these days.

Posted by: April 27th January 2015, 04:49 PM

I think the whole week will rate quite well actually. Apparently there will be six episodes airing over the five days. I'm gonna say low 9m on Monday, high 8m on Tuesday and Wednesday, 12m for the live episode on Thursday and 10m for the flashback episode on Friday.

Posted by: April 27th January 2015, 09:07 PM

Here's the first episode of 'Back to Ours' with Shane & Jessie (Kat & Alfie) looking back at their storylines...


Posted by: Uptown Froot 27th January 2015, 09:37 PM

There was the first episode of a special series '30 Years of Cliffhangers' on earlier as well!

Posted by: liamk97 27th January 2015, 10:07 PM

I watched both the iPlayer and BBC3 programmes. Both I enjoyed, particularly the 30 Years of Cliffhangers which made me feel all nostalgic about the years I've watched EE.

QUOTE(April @ Jan 27 2015, 04:49 PM) *
I think the whole week will rate quite well actually. Apparently there will be six episodes airing over the five days. I'm gonna say low 9m on Monday, high 8m on Tuesday and Wednesday, 12m for the live episode on Thursday and 10m for the flashback episode on Friday.

That sounds quite ideal for a minimum!

Posted by: April 27th January 2015, 11:17 PM

Here's the top 100 duff duffs from today's episode (so far):

61. Jamie Mitchell
62. Jim Branning
63. Steven Beale
64. Natalie Evans
65. Lauren Branning
66. Matthew Rose
67. Mandy Salter
68. Lucas Johnson
69. Lucy Beale
70. Minty Peterson
71. Laura Beale
72. Kevin Wicks
73. Barry Evans
74. Sue Osman
75. Lofty Holloway
76. Patrick Trueman
77. Charlie Slater
78. Sanjay Kapoor
79. Beppe Di Marco
80. Dr May Wright
81. Gita Kapoor
82. Christian Clarke
83. Lola Pearce
84. Dawn Swann
85. Terry Raymond
86. Heather Trott
87. Tony Hills
88. Paul Trueman
89. Ruth Fowler
90. Linda Carter
91. Ethel Skinner
92. Anthony Trueman
93. Steve Elliot
94. Sarah Hills
95. Ruby Allen
96. Vicki Fowler
97. Alan Jackson
98. Irene Raymond
99. Ali Osman
100. Mick Carter

xx. Roly - highest scoring dog

I'm surprised Mick & Linda appeared in the top 100 so quickly (Linda less so, since she had loads during the rape storyline)! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Toby 27th January 2015, 11:28 PM

Roly slaying.

Posted by: liamk97 27th January 2015, 11:29 PM

Yeah I thought it was quite surprising too at first, but I suppose 2014 was rather Carter-dominant!

Next episode is Thursday 5th February rather than the Tuesday.

Posted by: April 28th January 2015, 12:04 PM

You can vote on the http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d for Ian and Jane's wedding song. It's a choice of:

• The Power of Love - Jennifer Rush
• I Want to Know What Love Is - Foreigner
• You're the Inspiration - Chicago
• That Ole Devil Called Love - Alison Moyet
• There Must be an Angel (Playing with my heart) – Eurythmics

All were hits during 1985 - the year in which EastEnders started.

Posted by: liamk97 28th January 2015, 03:30 PM

'That Ole Devil Called Love' has Ian written all over it. tongue.gif

Posted by: Toby 28th January 2015, 04:22 PM

All are pretty crap tbh.

Posted by: liamk97 29th January 2015, 12:10 AM

Anniversary week will now start on Tuesday 17. Thanks football. dry.gif

Posted by: Liаm 29th January 2015, 12:28 AM

Ugh.

It kicks off on my birthday now though laugh.gif

Posted by: April 29th January 2015, 12:49 AM

Is that joke? I'm not being funny, but EE had a very rough 2014 due to being shafted around the schedules because of the football or suffering constant clashes with Emmerdale. For one week, the BBC and ITV can't give EE the plump slots in the schedules for its special week? It's ridiculous. The BBC treats EE appalling considering it's the most consistent performer for the channel.

Also, ITV will be airing a football match on Thursday and so people are speculating there will be an hour long episode of Emmerdale (6:45-7:45pm) which means a CLASH ohmy.gif shock horror with EastEnders' live episode. rotf.gif

Posted by: jark 29th January 2015, 12:27 PM

No way will they allow a clash with the live episode.

Posted by: liamk97 29th January 2015, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(April @ Jan 29 2015, 12:49 AM) *
Is that joke? I'm not being funny, but EE had a very rough 2014 due to being shafted around the schedules because of the football or suffering constant clashes with Emmerdale. For one week, the BBC and ITV can't give EE the plump slots in the schedules for its special week? It's ridiculous. The BBC treats EE appalling considering it's the most consistent performer for the channel.

Definitely agree! Eastenders' summer was the worst it has ever been in the ratings and I think it struggled to get back up - with all the drama in September/October, I don't think a few days of just over 7m in the overnights really reflected what they should have been. Shame, as the Lucy storyline really kept EE going strong during April and May just before the dip.

I'll never understand why the BBC and ITV don't work around each others' schedules when it comes to their best programmes - it's similar to how Broadchurch and Silent Witness clash. Still, I'd be shocked if they did have Emmerdale clash with the live episode, although I think the second half of the episode would be enough to keep the average ratings up over the full half an hour if it was the case.

Posted by: Cameron 29th January 2015, 04:49 PM

Ronnie and Roxy's look back episode is now available. I couldn't stop laughing at their commentary laugh.gif

Posted by: April 29th January 2015, 05:10 PM

Sam Womack and Rita Simons are brilliant. Whoever casted them (I think it was the current EP actually) did a brilliant job!

Posted by: Wall-e 29th January 2015, 05:12 PM

It's disappointing to see them falling behind Coronation Street on the ratings again seeing how the latter has just been horrendous.

Posted by: Chez Wombat 29th January 2015, 05:19 PM

My sister's working on this as part of her apprenticeship with the BBC, her behind the scenes knowledge (though no one knows who killed Lucy obvs) has kinda got me interested in it again. I used to watch this so much back in 2006-8, but since then, I've never bothered apart from the Christmas specials.

The trailer legit creeped me out, EE hasn't done that in so long ohmy.gif

Posted by: liamk97 29th January 2015, 05:22 PM

QUOTE(April @ Jan 29 2015, 05:10 PM) *
Sam Womack and Rita Simons are brilliant. Whoever casted them (I think it was the current EP actually) did a brilliant job!

It was Dominic, yeah. I definitely agree that it was a great casting, particularly Ronnie who has become one of the best loved characters of the show, past and present!

I've just finished watching Ronnie/Roxy's iPlayer episode; it was really funny and you can tell Sam and Rita are best friends in real life.

Posted by: liamk97 30th January 2015, 04:21 PM

Schedule for Live Week:
Monday, February 16
10.45pm: The Graham Norton Show EastEnders Special

Tuesday, February 17
7.30pm: EastEnders (30-minute episode - includes live elements)

Wednesday, February 18
8.00pm: EastEnders (30-minute episode - includes live elements)

Thursday, February 19 - Lucy Beale's killer revealed tonight
7.30pm: EastEnders (Hour-long episode - includes live elements)
9.30pm: EastEnders (30-minute Lucy Beale flashback episode - includes live elements)

Friday, February 20
8.00pm: EastEnders (Full 30-minute live episode)
8.30pm: EastEnders: Backstage Live (with a live switchover to BBC Three at 9pm)

Posted by: Wall-e 30th January 2015, 04:22 PM

APPARENTLY Lauren will be ruled out of the suspects soon as she's not been shown on the new photo released.

Posted by: Uptown Froot 30th January 2015, 04:23 PM

Here is that pic!:


Posted by: liamk97 30th January 2015, 04:32 PM

I'm getting extremely excited for Live Week now! It'll be my half term holiday and my dad will be working nights all that week so no moaning or interruptions! biggrin.gif

Posted by: April 30th January 2015, 04:44 PM

So the live episode is actually on Friday? Since when? And 90 minutes of EE in one night! ohmy.gif

Posted by: liamk97 30th January 2015, 05:02 PM

QUOTE(April @ Jan 30 2015, 04:44 PM) *
So the live episode is actually on Friday? Since when? And 90 minutes of EE in one night! ohmy.gif

I don't think it was ever confirmed to be the Thursday, just assumed so since Lucy's killer is revealed. It could work quite nicely with the fallout being live I think.

Posted by: Toby 30th January 2015, 06:08 PM

Why are Pam and Les suspects?

Posted by: April 30th January 2015, 06:30 PM

QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 30 2015, 06:08 PM) *
Why are Pam and Les suspects?


Either they want to confuse everyone or it's actually them! laugh.gif

Posted by: April 31st January 2015, 12:53 AM

During the 30th Anniversary Week, BBC Three will be showing classic episodes each day! cheer.gif

Monday 8-8:30pm (Remember there's no episode BBC One, so this instead)
Tuesday 7-7:30pm
Wednesday 7-8pm
Thursday 8:30pm-9pm

I hope they show the first ever episode and Archie & Peggy's wedding/Danielle's death. I'm not sure which other episodes are iconic? Maybe Christmas Day divorce papers, Sharongate or Who Shot Phil?

Posted by: jark 31st January 2015, 09:56 AM

I'm sure they will show divorce papers and Sharongate. I think who shot Phil? might have been a longer episode, from memory? They should show the episode where Peggy goes to Spain and finds out Frank faked his death and Sam 2.0 is working a pole.

Posted by: liamk97 31st January 2015, 10:49 AM

I was going to suggest they'd show an episode from each decade but I don't think there's really anything that iconic from the 2010s. Perhaps the 25th anniversary live episode?

I think showing the first episode is inevitable and the suggestions of the Christmas Day divorce papers, Sharongate and Who Shot Phil? are all really good shouts and probably most likely. If not, the aftermath of Kat revealing she's Zoe's mum could be and there's plenty of great episodes from when Diederick Santer was in charge (2007-10).

Posted by: April 31st January 2015, 01:22 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Jan 31 2015, 10:49 AM) *
I was going to suggest they'd show an episode from each decade but I don't think there's really anything that iconic from the 2010s. Perhaps the 25th anniversary live episode?

I think showing the first episode is inevitable and the suggestions of the Christmas Day divorce papers, Sharongate and Who Shot Phil? are all really good shouts and probably most likely. If not, the aftermath of Kat revealing she's Zoe's mum could be and there's plenty of great episodes from when Diederick Santer was in charge (2007-10).


I've seen people suggest on Digital Spy that they might reshow Good Friday's episode on the Thursday since it's the only HD slot (and therefore the only episode from post Christmas 2010) and also it will obviously be just after the killer reveal and before the flashback episode.

Posted by: April 5th February 2015, 11:23 PM

EastEnders: The Greatest Cliffhangers episode two aired today and here is the next part of the countdown which featured:

21. Frank Butcher
22. Arthur Fowler
23. Sonia Fowler
24. David Wicks
25. Carol Jackson
26. Tanya Cross
27. Ricky Butcher
28. Little Mo Mitchell
29. Cindy Beale
30. Martin Fowler
31. Pete Beale
32. Steve Owen
33. Angie Watts
34. Melanie Owen
35. Zoe Slater
36. Shirley Carter
37. Simon Wicks
38. Lisa Fowler
39. Ben Mitchell
40. Denise Fox
41. Jack Branning
42. Michael Moon
43. Dennis Rickman
44. Whitney Dean
45. Bradley Branning
46. Nick Cotton
47. Sam Mitchell
48. Roxy Mitchell
49. Nigel Bates
50. Zainab Masood
51. Tiffany Mitchell
52. Sean Slater
53. Syed Masood
54. Chrissie Watts
55. Garry Hobbs
56. Jane Beale
57. Roy Evans
58. Masood Ahmed
59. Johnny Allen
60. Archie Mitchell

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=174310&view=findpost&p=4953742

Posted by: liamk97 5th February 2015, 11:39 PM

Monday 16th February will see the first ever Eastenders episode aired on the BBC Red Button: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a627058/first-ever-eastenders-episode-to-be-repeated-for-30th-anniversary.html#~p3sM7nhTlD6usG

Posted by: THEO. 6th February 2015, 01:48 PM

I watched The Greatest Cliffhangers (as well as the main show, the first time since Lucy's death) last night and it brought back so many memories! I remember the programme from the 25th and they've clearly reused a lot of footage from the original screening but it was nice to see a couple of newer characters too. I'm gonna take a guess at the top 20 (in alphabetical order as the top two will very likely be the same as last time):

Abi Branning jameela.jpg
Alfie Moon
Bianca Jackson
Billy Mitchell
Den Watts
Dot Branning
Grant Mitchell
Ian Beale
Jean Slater (possibly not but I assume she would be top 100!)
Kat Moon
Kathy Mitchell
Max Branning
Pat Evans
Peggy Mitchell
Peter Beale (same as Jean)
Phil Mitchell
Ronnie Mitchell
Sharon Mitchell
Stacey Branning


And I can't think of a 20th other than Mo Harris and I doubt she's even had one laugh.gif

EDIT: JANINE BUTCHE!!! biggrin.gif

Also back during the anniversary/flashback is Rainie! biggrin.gif

Posted by: April 12th February 2015, 08:04 PM

The final top 20 of the 30 Years of Cliffhangers is starting right now on BBC Three.

Posted by: April 12th February 2015, 09:01 PM

Here's the top 20 for anyone who didn't watch tonight's episode.

01. Phil Mitchell
02. Ian Beale
03. Sharon Watts
04. Grant Mitchell
05. Pat Butcher
06. Pauline Fowler
07. Dot Branning
08. Michelle Fowler
09. Kat Moon
10. Mark Fowler
11. Alfie Moon
12. Den Watts
13. Kathy Beale
14. Peggy Mitchell
15. Max Branning
16. Bianca Jackson
17. Billy Mitchell
18. Janine Butcher
19. Stacey Branning
20. Ronnie Mitchell

Posted by: Calum Hood 12th February 2015, 09:08 PM

Watched this tonight and the Ian segment where he took Peter out of the pub and told him Lucy had died, that still gives me goosebumps. cry.gif

Posted by: Liаm 12th February 2015, 09:13 PM

I guessed that top 5, in order as well laugh.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 12th February 2015, 10:15 PM

Can the killer still be Ronnie?

Posted by: April 12th February 2015, 10:16 PM

QUOTE(Beaverhousen @ Feb 12 2015, 10:15 PM) *
Can the killer still be Ronnie?


No. She doesn't appear in the Friday episode.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 12th February 2015, 10:18 PM

Then I will stick with the multiple 4 person series of events killer theoryyy

Posted by: James1987 13th February 2015, 06:38 PM

Really excited for next week!

I think two people are involved. One person killed Lucy, by mistake/intention, then someone has helped cover it up by moving her body to the common.

I think it could be Cindy, if it turns out to be Abi I'll be annoyed unless there's a good reason behind it in the reveal but I hope we're not disappointed!

Also, I can't help but feel Nick's exit felt a bit rushed (even though an interview said it would be fairly low key) amid all the innuendo of Thursday's episode, will be interesting to see how that story continues.

Posted by: liamk97 13th February 2015, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(James1987 @ Feb 13 2015, 06:38 PM) *
Also, I can't help but feel Nick's exit felt a bit rushed (even though an interview said it would be fairly low key) amid all the innuendo of Thursday's episode, will be interesting to see how that story continues.

Agreed. I was expecting something low key as I read that interview too but I was still underwhelmed. Sorry to say it but Dot was a bit dreadful too. sad.gif

Digital Spy's spoilers seem to suggest Nick isn't dead yet, but I'm assuming that's an error/red herring.

Posted by: April 13th February 2015, 08:02 PM

He's STILL alive! blink.gif

There's so many references to EE history in today's episode. Nick lying in the position Reg Cox died, Dot asking for Dr Legg (Walford's original GP) and Nick grabbing Dot's leg in the same way Dirty Den grabbed Chrissie's foot just before he died.

Posted by: Mart!n 13th February 2015, 08:34 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 13 2015, 08:02 PM) *
He's STILL alive! blink.gif

.



Not ANYMORE laugh.gif

Posted by: April 13th February 2015, 08:38 PM

I think tonight's episode confirms it's Lauren knows what happened between Max/Abi and Lucy but not necessarily that they were the killer. I think she left Peter and feels uneasy about going to the Beale house because she believes either Max or Abi killed Lucy and therefore feels guilty herself, and that's also why she kept back the yellow piece of paper with the number on it.

Posted by: Mart!n 13th February 2015, 08:38 PM

Only 6 days to go, I still have my suspicions on Peter, its just niggling at me for some reason, but the way Lauren looked at Jane in tonight's episode makes me think its Jane now.

Posted by: Liаm 13th February 2015, 08:47 PM

There was basciallt something that made me suspect everyone could be the killer laugh.gif Lauren was quite uneasy when Denise came in for example. But I think I'd be surprised now if it wasn't a Branming or Beale - obviously the former is Lauren's own family and she's engaged to be married into the Beales so they're both close to her and she's going to be a bit apprehensive about reporting it. I think if it was say Denise she'd just call the police really?

Posted by: T Boy 13th February 2015, 09:28 PM

Denise>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jane

It's being played out wonderfully. I still can't fathom who the killer is. I'm thinking Peter or Jane but that's all hunches.

Posted by: Wall-e 13th February 2015, 09:30 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 13 2015, 08:47 PM) *
There was basciallt something that made me suspect everyone could be the killer laugh.gif Lauren was quite uneasy when Denise came in for example. But I think I'd be surprised now if it wasn't a Branming or Beale - obviously the former is Lauren's own family and she's engaged to be married into the Beales so they're both close to her and she's going to be a bit apprehensive about reporting it. I think if it was say Denise she'd just call the police really?


I agree.

It's 100% a branning or beale.

Posted by: April 13th February 2015, 10:19 PM



Another 10/10 trailer

Posted by: jase. 13th February 2015, 11:10 PM

I'll be shocked if it isn't Jane or Peter tbh, I'm leaning towards Peter because he's leaving so it's the perfect way to write him out of the show

Posted by: Wall-e 14th February 2015, 08:05 AM

Mick Carter now joint second favourite laugh.gif

Posted by: liamk97 14th February 2015, 09:46 AM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 13 2015, 08:02 PM) *
There's so many references to EE history in today's episode. Nick lying in the position Reg Cox died, Dot asking for Dr Legg (Walford's original GP) and Nick grabbing Dot's leg in the same way Dirty Den grabbed Chrissie's foot just before he died.

Yeah, I picked up on a lot too! So many during the Dot/Nick scenes. It's a really great tribute and shows how much DTC cares about the show and how much a fan he is himself.

Has anyone taken the EE 30th Anniversary Test on their website? The answer to what killed Archie is the snow globe. wacko.gif

Posted by: Wall-e 14th February 2015, 11:26 AM

https://uk.beamly.com/feeds/eastenders/701b2bc3-05c7-11e3-ce1a-ed25be5684de

I 100% believe it's Jane now.

Posted by: Rooney 14th February 2015, 12:30 PM

I don't even watch the show and I know the killer is Jane.

Did none of you read the news story? Where a customer was spread betting on Jane throughout London? People only do this unless they have good info.

Posted by: MC Delroy 14th February 2015, 01:14 PM

R.I.P Nasty Nick Cotton

Posted by: April 14th February 2015, 01:44 PM

I don't think it will be Jane, but I imagine she'll be involved in the cover up. I think the actual killer will be Peter, Cindy or Denise.

Posted by: T Boy 14th February 2015, 02:11 PM

Can't see it being Denise. She's never fit well as a suspect. She wanted to leave Ian the day Lucy died. Why would she have killed Lucy, knowing that she'd feel like she had to stay with him in the aftermath?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 14th February 2015, 06:05 PM

Why do people think it would be Jane I mean what reason would she have ? My money is on either Peter Abi or Cindy. But if it was Peter or Cindy I wouldn't be suprised if Jane knew about it and helped with the cover up.

Posted by: T Boy 14th February 2015, 06:46 PM

Jane deciding to marry Ian so quickly makes her look a bit guilty tbh. She's also made up an alibi for Lauren and hid Lucy's phone. She may not have meant to kill Lucy but it doesn't mean she didn't.

Posted by: Wall-e 14th February 2015, 06:59 PM

It's the way that she hide Lucy's phone tbh.

Posted by: James1987 14th February 2015, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 13 2015, 08:38 PM) *
Only 6 days to go, I still have my suspicions on Peter, its just niggling at me for some reason, but the way Lauren looked at Jane in tonight's episode makes me think its Jane now.


I don't know, I think it's definetely someone who was at Ian and Jane's party as Lauren was looking at everyone suspiciously

Jane could still be involved as the spoilers seem to indicate the reveal happens at the wedding, but I'm not convinced by the four person theory. That would be a real anti climax for me but I can't wait to see how next week unfolds

Posted by: April 14th February 2015, 10:16 PM

I've got my final theory now. The classic EE whodunnit killer is usually someone with a clear motive, but not one of the most obvious people. The suspects with a clear motive would be:

Peter - obviously after what he heard
Ian - at a stretch because of what Lucy said to him, but I don't think that's clear enough
Cindy - jealousy of not being the loved golden child and outcast of not being a 'real Beale'
Whitney - Lucy bullied her and obviously slept with Lee despite Whitney being after him
Abi - angry over Lucy having an affair with Max
Max - jealous and angry over her ditching him for Lee

I don't think anyone else has a strong enough grievance. Secondly, discounting the obvious suspects would leave cut out Abi and Max. Thirdly, if EE wanted the killer to not being included very much to keep them out of our minds to forget them as a suspect, that would leave Cindy and Whitney who have barely appeared since New Year's Day.

Finally it would need to be someone to provide a big enough impact and a good enough actor to carry off the reveal. Both Cindy and Whitney's actresses are quite strong so it probably comes down to impact. Whitney would affect multiple families, but once she's gone and caught I don't think it would have a lasting impact. Whereas, Cindy is related to the Beales and now has a daughter to continue her link. It would have greater lasting impact if it were someone from within the family. Also, the chewing up on the cup suggests someone less mature and that could be Cindy. I think Jane will have covered for her due to her being pregnant and possibly Denise also helped if she heard an argument downstairs. I thought maybe the picture that Emma was looking at was maybe Jane's missing car?

So that's why I believe it will mostly like be Cindy, but Whitney is still also a good shout.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 14th February 2015, 11:07 PM

I agree - Whitney and Cindy are my 2 top picks, although I had a dream that it was Denise laugh.gif

It HAS to be someone she knows - I doubt it's Peter as now Stace thinks it's him and Lauren doesn't seem scared of him anyway.

The way she looked at Jane though omg!!!!

I think Jane is behind the cover-up and took her car away the next day to clean it.

It's NOT going to be someone unconnected and random like Mick Carter or Phil Mitchell though. It's never Phil Mitchell - who's betting on him? laugh.gif

But what aboot that betting person from back in October who cut the odds of Jane down to like 2/1?

And the spoiler pics are making me think.

Howeverrrr if the killer IS Jane, after the betting thing and the finger being pointed her way by Lauren's look, then it would be expected and disappointing. So for thatttt I think she was one of a group of people and the real killer is Cindy perhaps. Let's face it - why else would she end the engagement unless the murderer was SOMEONE IN HER FAMILY OR HIS??

I think Whitney would be the best bet buuut maybe it's like a Dirty Den thing and Cindy AND Whitney teamed up or something.

I like the idea of the death being similar to Emma's though and it was accidental - following the bang on her head from Max, someone knocked her again and it caused it. That would open the playing field as right now there isn't really any motives, so maybe it was an accident and maybe that's why people helped with the cover-up if that's how Jane is involved.

Annnd that would make it possible for chars like Cindy orrr Bobby to do her in.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 14th February 2015, 11:12 PM

What chewed-up cup?

Posted by: April 14th February 2015, 11:34 PM

When the 'killer' met Emma, their plastic tea cup was chewed up which means it was either someone really nervous or a younger person.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 14th February 2015, 11:37 PM

Oooh didn't see that.

So either it's someone close to Emma orrr someone young for her not to go to the polcie straight away.

It's not Max as she told Max the killer wasn't Lo-Lauren in the car before she died, meaning it probably wasn't Abbey either.

Posted by: jase. 14th February 2015, 11:42 PM

Now I can't pick between Peter, Cindy, Whitney and Jane rotf.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 14th February 2015, 11:44 PM

I can't choose between Denise, Jane, Whitney and Cindy!

Would be so disappointed if it actually is Jane though, be a big 'eh we knew it' moment.

Posted by: liamk97 15th February 2015, 10:42 AM

Eastenders are going to recreate the first ever scene on Thursday when Nick's body is discovered: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a628952/eastenders-to-recreate-first-ever-scene-on-30th-anniversary.html#~p4m5AfaG3to3LJ

That is such a great tribute!

Posted by: Mack 15th February 2015, 10:48 AM

Aren't the BBC going to show the first ever episode on the Red Button on Friday?


Posted by: Mart!n 15th February 2015, 11:38 AM

30 years of Eastenders can't believe it, and only 2 characters left from the very first episode... Dot and Ian. Its going to be a great week, can't wait for the reveal on Thursday, 3 episodes. I should imagine the extra episode was a late move, as football is transmitted tomorrow night.

Posted by: Liаm 15th February 2015, 01:58 PM

Sharon was in the first episode too tongue.gif

Posted by: liamk97 15th February 2015, 01:59 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 15 2015, 01:58 PM) *
Sharon was in the first episode too tongue.gif

And Dot, in fact, wasn't!

Posted by: April 15th February 2015, 02:40 PM

Ian and Sharon appeared in the first episode, Dot joined in July and Martin was born in that same month. If you include Nick Cotton's corpse appearance, that's five 1985 characters, but only two (three) from the first episode.

Oops I forgot about Tracey. She has appeared since the first episode too! tongue.gif

Posted by: Cameron 15th February 2015, 02:47 PM

Maybe after 30 years, Tracey will get moved up to main cast? laugh.gif

Posted by: April 15th February 2015, 02:56 PM

I hope they give her a speaking part, or at least an appearance! I'll be so angry if they don't!

Posted by: Liаm 15th February 2015, 03:00 PM

I'd love it if Lauren was wrong about the killer and Tracey actually uncovered it laugh.gif

Posted by: CraigT 15th February 2015, 06:39 PM

They asked Tracy numerous times to be a regular, but She's turned them down each and every time.

Posted by: liamk97 16th February 2015, 12:10 AM

Emmerdale's exc. producer Kate Oates has said that the Eastenders clashes aren't down to her and that she disagrees with the amount of clashes too:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a629079/emmerdale-producer-kate-oates-eastenders-clashes-not-our-choice.html#~p4plBjDhyGzLii

I'll never understand why the clashes happen when they usually can avoided but it's nice to know the show's producer feels the same.

Posted by: April 16th February 2015, 12:12 AM

It will be the ITV controller who ultimately decides the schedule.

Posted by: April 16th February 2015, 10:49 AM

The first ever episode and the Good Friday episode have both been uploaded to BBC iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/p02g29p6

Also on there is 'the story so far' of the Who Killed Lucy storyline.

Posted by: liamk97 16th February 2015, 11:22 AM

^I shall be checking them out!

On 26th February, Sharon will meet her half-brother Kristopher Hanley, played by Jonathan Broadbent.

Posted by: MC Delroy 16th February 2015, 04:27 PM

Bobby Beale is the favourite now for who killed Lucy laugh.gif

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/g/3773045/Who-Killed-Lucy-Beale%3f.html

Posted by: Mart!n 16th February 2015, 04:39 PM

QUOTE(MC Delroy @ Feb 16 2015, 04:27 PM) *
Bobby Beale is the favourite now for who killed Lucy laugh.gif

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/g/3773045/Who-Killed-Lucy-Beale%3f.html


And Stephen Beale is on that list laugh.gif

Might as well chuck in Vicki (Michelle's daughter) while they are at it.

Posted by: April 16th February 2015, 04:58 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 16 2015, 04:39 PM) *
Might as well chuck in Vicki (Michelle's daughter) while they are at it.


Speaking of which, I hope Michelle makes a surprise appearance this week!

Posted by: Beaverhousen 16th February 2015, 04:59 PM

I still think Jessica Fletcher had a hand in all of this...

What about that Gary Lucy guy? As he;s coming back for the final

Posted by: liamk97 16th February 2015, 06:25 PM

According to the EE website, there's meant to be a "familiar face" returning on Wednesday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053j3wf

It doesn't seem like they're talking about Christian and Tanya and it can't be about Peggy or Martin either as they return on the Tuesday, so perhaps we're in for a surprise?

Posted by: Calum Hood 16th February 2015, 06:28 PM

QUOTE
Treadwell-Collins insisted that every character is still in the running - appearing to hint that the murderer doesn't necessarily have to be on the official suspect list.

Speaking about the mystery's conclusion, he laughed: "I can't tell anyone at the moment! We've narrowed it down a bit to about 11 people, but it still could be anyone.

"We've been very firm from the beginning that there are twists and turns all the way through this story. So the betting's still on - it could still be literally anyone."


So basically this list of suspects could end up being a load of shit just plucked out of thin air for a bit of promo.

Posted by: April 16th February 2015, 07:57 PM

The suspects list is the person who met Emma. One of them could be covering for someone not on the list.

Posted by: liamk97 16th February 2015, 09:40 PM

But who else could it be if not someone on the suspect list? I kind of think what DTC said is just to put a final chance to make us all change our minds as to who the killer is.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 12:27 PM

Like Bobby Beale for example. I BET she met Jane - 'but murder?' Was when Jane was saying she had to cover for whoever it was.

Which place has best odds for Whitney Denise and Cindy btw?? And should I do it online or in a shop for best deal?

Posted by: Wall-e 17th February 2015, 07:40 PM

This is already so disjointed.

One minute it's at night the next minute it's early morning.

Posted by: Wall-e 17th February 2015, 07:42 PM

Cindy using Lucy's music box!

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 07:55 PM

Martin is hawt.

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 07:59 PM

OMG.

Posted by: Wall-e 17th February 2015, 08:00 PM

OH :/

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 08:01 PM

WHAT IS THAT ACTUALLY IT

Posted by: Wall-e 17th February 2015, 08:02 PM

I'm 100% positive that Abi never murdered Lucy now.

The killer wasn't due to be announced until Thursday.

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 08:02 PM

Obviously Abi didn't kill her if they've had Max say that this early on.

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 08:02 PM

I think he said "she knows who's killed Lucy" rather than "she knows you've killed Lucy". tongue.gif

Posted by: Jade 17th February 2015, 08:02 PM

No haha we find out on Thursday!! Maybe Max just came to that conclusion. Ew Abi

Would be funny if Jake/Max fluffed up "WHO killed Lucy" as "YOU killed Lucy" though. kink.gif

Posted by: Cameron 17th February 2015, 08:02 PM

It wont be Abi, it's only Tuesday

Posted by: Mart!n 17th February 2015, 08:03 PM

Oh...


I love the reference to Pauline with the glass bowl laugh.gif
And Mick used Peggy's catchphrase "Get out of my pub" laugh.gif

Posted by: Wall-e 17th February 2015, 08:04 PM

Ronnie hearing about Charlie & Roxy though <3

Thought Roxy would have got pregnant and this would have dragged on tbh.

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 08:05 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 17 2015, 08:03 PM) *
Oh...
I love the reference to Pauline with the glass bowl laugh.gif
And Mick used Peggy's catchphrase "Get out of my pub" laugh.gif

The Pauline reference was nice but Mick saying "Get out of my pup" was just cringy!

Notice how all the songs used tonight were hits from 1985?

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 08:05 PM

QUOTE(Wall-e @ Feb 17 2015, 08:04 PM) *
Thought Roxy would have got pregnant and this would have dragged on tbh.

If that happened... laugh.gif!

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 08:05 PM

Omg Jade that's what I thought happened laugh.gif

I do reckon Max just assumes the only way that Lauren would be so distraught is if a member of her family killed Lucy? But it's actuallt not necessarily Abi. Two people are deffo involved if she was killed at home, I reckon it was Cindy accidentally and then Jane helped cover it up. That's my final prediction. I'll be dumbstruck is Jane isn't involved!

Posted by: Cameron 17th February 2015, 08:06 PM

Was that Mick Carter or was that Danny Dyer talking to Peggy...

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 08:13 PM

It's gotta be Cindy

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 08:17 PM

Cindy eyed up the music box with the drugs in whilst Lucy still alive, yah??

Then Lucy came back, they had a barney, Lucy got bonked over the head by accident fighting for the drugs. With the annuerism from Max's blow earlier too, she drops. Jane helps a panicked Lucy. BOBBY witnesses it all hence why she takes him out, not whack style car style, for a while.

Posted by: Wall-e 17th February 2015, 08:19 PM

Yeah I'm thinking Cindy / Bobby and Jane helped cover it up.

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(Wall-e @ Feb 17 2015, 07:40 PM) *
One minute it's at night the next minute it's early morning.

The whole week is set on one evening/night.

I was hoping for a catfight between Sharon and Peggy, there really wasn't any point of Peggy being there really!

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 08:21 PM

I'm going to put my final bet on Cindy.

She was horrified when the music box turned up under the Christmas tree (and she would be, knowing she used it to kill Lucy), then tonight she was randomly carrying it around the living room, and then there's the clue we got at the NTAs that it was the last thing Lucy heard. So they've obviously had an argument, Cindy's whacked her over the head with that while it was playing, Jane's walked in on it and helped Cindy cover it all up.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 08:22 PM

Agreed.

I've been saying it for ages the Cindy (or Whitney) tongue.gif

Final prediction Buzzjack: #Cindy

Posted by: troylovesmusic 17th February 2015, 08:26 PM

Yeah I originally thought it was Abi but I'm going for Cindy now .

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 08:33 PM

LMAO Bobby at 11/4 odds on Bet365!

Posted by: Mart!n 17th February 2015, 08:35 PM

Also Jane hid the phone under the floorboards, If I remember rightly Cindy was the last number dialled on that phone, now I'm beginning to think Cindy as well.

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 08:37 PM

I reckon the "familiar face" that angers a character with their return tomorrow will be Jane's mum; she's been referenced to enough times.

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 08:38 PM

If it actually was Bobby.... laugh.gif

Putting a fiver on Cindy tbh while her odds are 14/1 on William Hill!!

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 08:42 PM

Think her odds will drop?? I'll put a 5 on now too if they'll drop

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 08:43 PM

QUOTE(Beaverhousen @ Feb 17 2015, 08:42 PM) *
Think her odds will drop?? I'll put a 5 on now too if they'll drop

I doubt it! If anything her and Jane will only keep climbing closer to the top!

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 08:45 PM

They'll shorten that's why I'm getting in now!

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 08:50 PM

Ok! I'm gonna put a 5 on her too then now.

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 09:07 PM

Might put a fiver on Bobby too as that's likely... In fat I'm thinking maybe it's more likelt if Jane has covered it up that it's Bobby. Either way I think Jane would care more about covering for Cindy/Bobby than she would for Ian knowing the truth, but Bobby is pretty much a son to her as obviously Laura died when Bobby was young and Jane came 2/3 years later.

I still think Cindy though, I don't see what Bobby would argue with her over. Cindy could have found her cocaine maybe and confronted her, maybe Lucy said something about Cindy being a $l*t for ending up as a teen mum and Cindy snapped in the moment and applied too much force and Jane came back at that moment and she panicked and helped to cover it as a murder.

Posted by: Mart!n 17th February 2015, 09:16 PM

I don't think its Bobby as if laugh.gif I'm sticking with Cindy and Jane helped to cover up by moving the body.

Posted by: Calum Hood 17th February 2015, 09:18 PM

Some people are suggesting Bobby may have been looking through the music box to see what was in it, Lucy walked in on him and tried to grab it off him, he pushed her, and she banged her head off a chest of drawers. Plausible theory, but it would be such an anti-climax if it were Bobby. laugh.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 09:29 PM

Remember how dramatic the Stacey/ Bradley reveal was - it's basically gonna have to match that.

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 09:52 PM

Today's episode was amazing. I'm so hungry to find out what's gonna happen next!

I've completely got no idea who Richard Blackwood's character is going to be. I did not expect him to be with the Mitchells/Ronnie.

Abi is definitely not the killer. Either they fluffed the lines or Max and Abi think Abi killed her, when it was in fact a Beale.

QUOTE(Wall-e @ Feb 17 2015, 07:40 PM) *
This is already so disjointed.

One minute it's at night the next minute it's early morning.


It's all set at night. The wedding is taking place at night time - they commented on that last week.

Posted by: Ryan. 17th February 2015, 09:55 PM

I've thought for a few weeks the Jane was indirectly involved (since she hid the phone under the floorboards), but wasn't sure if she was covering for Peter or Cindy. I agree with everyone else now that I think it's going to be Cindy - but maybe that's now becoming too obvious?

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 09:58 PM

But Jane wouldn't cover for anyone but Cindy, Peter or Bobby surely?

Posted by: Ryan. 17th February 2015, 10:03 PM

Only Ian I guess! kink.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 10:03 PM

Must be easier somehow to do the live eps at night than day?

Did y'all see the shots of London in the background?? Really made it seem more like the city and less like a random town.

Put a bet on Cindy.

Watch it be Denise tongue.gif

It HAS to be someone in the Beale household. Jane would easily cover up for best friend Denise no?

Posted by: cassius__ 17th February 2015, 10:06 PM

QUOTE(Beaverhousen @ Feb 17 2015, 10:03 PM) *
Must be easier somehow to do the live eps at night than day?


Well, unless you think everyone is going to go home and watch EastEnders in the middle of the day? This isn't Doctors. laugh.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 10:07 PM

Oh yah tongue.gifP

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 17th February 2015, 10:08 PM

BBC One's Twitter seems to confirm it was meant to be 'You Killed Lucy'

https://twitter.com/BBCOne/status/567775877480841216

Very interesting but I'm guessing it's more the end result of the build up to them trying to suggest Abi is the killer. I think Abi might have met up with Lucy on the night, which Max saw and therefore thinks she killed her but obviously she didn't.

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 10:08 PM

I still think Denise is involved somehow. Maybe Denise and Jane covering up for Cindy. We know Denise was in bed or at least preparing to go to bed and the spoiler pics show Lucy returned home (as confirmed by Lauren's card). Cindy might have had a bitchfight with Lucy over the music box or revealing her drug habit and accidentally knocked her out. Denise heard what happened and obviously with Cindy being pregnant, she decided to help cover up what happened.

She then went to Jane for help and the three of them went to Walford Common to dump the body. Hence, Emma's comment that 'it wasn't there' - she was referring to Jane's car being missing from its usual place in the video of Lauren. Therefore Emma met Jane and Jane explained everything that happened, hence I can't keep 'the' secret rather than your secret.

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 17th February 2015, 10:12 PM

Detective April has solved the case ohmy.gif

I've not been watching it properly over the last year, just keeping an eye on things. I watched the Good Friday episode and today's episode tonight and that does sound very plausible!

Might be why Denise said she'd do it for Jane as well when they were in the MinuteMart in tonights episode.

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 10:14 PM

QUOTE(Rabbit Froot @ Feb 17 2015, 10:12 PM) *
Detective April has solved the case ohmy.gif

I've not been watching it properly over the last year, just keeping an eye on things. I watched the Good Friday episode and today's episode tonight and that does sound very plausible!

Might be why Denise said she'd do it for Jane as well when they were in the MinuteMart in tonights episode.


I bet I'll be completely wrong! rotf.gif I'm not sure how Max/Abi would tie into my theory though. There's definitely something which happened between Denise and Jane, because they're were acting a little odd last week too.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 17th February 2015, 10:21 PM

gREAT THEORY aPRIL!!


i also think it was CIndy buut Denise and Jane have to be involved somehow.

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2015, 10:27 PM

That sounds plausible April ohmy.gif It would fit in, as I expect Denise does care about the kids as she's been a mother figure to them whilst she was with Ian and just because she didn't love him doesn't mean she won't still feel a connection with Bobby and even Cindy.

I am like 80% certain Cindy was the "actual" killer" and either/both of Denise/Jane helped her. There's no way a 15 year old could move an adult's body by themselves so one of them had to have helped.

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 17th February 2015, 10:27 PM

If you go with the Denise and Jane both helped to cover up theory, it could also still be Bobby as both of them probably love him the most.

When Denise met Libby in the Good Friday episode, she only really mentioned how great Bobby was out of the children.

Posted by: Cameron 17th February 2015, 10:30 PM

Richard Blackwoods character is maybe either
1. Someone Ronnie was dating whilst in Portugal with Peggy and Grant
2. The club owner or something from Ibiza?

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 10:31 PM

Richard Blackwood's character is called Vincent btw - saw it mentioned on a Digital Spy article.

QUOTE(Rabbit Froot @ Feb 17 2015, 10:27 PM) *
If you go with the Denise and Jane both helped to cover up theory, it could also still be Bobby as both of them probably love him the most.

When Denise met Libby in the Good Friday episode, she only really mentioned how great Bobby was out of the children.


Of course. Well spotted from the Good Friday episode. I might have to hand over my detective position! wink.gif I don't know why, but I'd feel really cheated if Bobby did it.

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 10:41 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 17 2015, 10:31 PM) *
I don't know why, but I'd feel really cheated if Bobby did it.

Same, it would be pretty ridiculous, even if the story did somehow work.

I'm liking the theories here! But what about Lucy's blood in Jake's flat? Or did we get answers for that?

Posted by: Cameron 17th February 2015, 10:51 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 17 2015, 10:41 PM) *
Same, it would be pretty ridiculous, even if the story did somehow work.

I'm liking the theories here! But what about Lucy's blood in Jake's flat? Or did we get answers for that?


She got a nose bleed or a cut or something when she was asking him to design the LB Lettings website tongue.gif

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 10:53 PM

I almost forgot to mention...Stacey and Martin are SO gonna get together! It's so obvious! I actually think they would be really good together.

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 10:58 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Feb 17 2015, 10:51 PM) *
She got a nose bleed or a cut or something when she was asking him to design the LB Lettings website tongue.gif

Ah right! tongue.gif Very plausible!

QUOTE(April @ Feb 17 2015, 10:53 PM) *
I almost forgot to mention...Stacey and Martin are SO gonna get together! It's so obvious! I actually think they would be really good together.

Yeah, I thought that too! I don't remember them interacting when Martin used to be in it though so I don't know why he asked if she remembered him unless it was just an innocent comment.

Posted by: April 17th February 2015, 11:00 PM

Sorry to bring someone else up, but DS are speculating that Kathy Beale is what Phil needs to talk to Ian about! ohmy.gif

Surely EE wouldn't be that daring to bring her back from the dead? Although I would absolutely love Kathy back!

Posted by: Cameron 17th February 2015, 11:01 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 17 2015, 11:00 PM) *
Sorry to bring someone else up, but DS are speculating that Kathy Beale is what Phil needs to talk to Ian about! ohmy.gif

Surely EE wouldn't be that daring to bring her back from the dead? Although I would absolutely love Kathy back!

Well, Gillian has finished on Hollyoaks! I would love a return from her

Posted by: liamk97 17th February 2015, 11:05 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 17 2015, 11:00 PM) *
Sorry to bring someone else up, but DS are speculating that Kathy Beale is what Phil needs to talk to Ian about! ohmy.gif

Surely EE wouldn't be that daring to bring her back from the dead? Although I would absolutely love Kathy back!

DTC has expressed how much he liked Kathy's character and I'm sure he said he would want to bring her back but not said a way that meant he was planning to, more that he wishes he could.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 18th February 2015, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 18 2015, 12:05 AM) *
DTC has expressed how much he liked Kathy's character and I'm sure he said he would want to bring her back but not said a way that meant he was planning to, more that he wishes he could.



There were stories before about the producers saying it was their biggest ever mistake, that they'd brought characters back before and were planning on TRYING to see if something would work with Cathy :DDDD

COME ON KATHERR!!

Posted by: Beaverhousen 18th February 2015, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 17 2015, 11:41 PM) *
Same, it would be pretty ridiculous, even if the story did somehow work.

I'm liking the theories here! But what about Lucy's blood in Jake's flat? Or did we get answers for that?


Period.

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2015, 11:58 AM

I love that Babs didn't go all pantomime this time and her scene with Mick was more understated than I thought it would be. Although there appeared to be no reason at all for Peggy to be there.

I loved the duff duff because it basically proved that Abi didn't do it.

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 18th February 2015, 01:15 PM

Wait so was Peggy Mitchell only appearing in last night's episode?

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 01:27 PM

People are saying her death could be a witness protection thing, which I guess it could but how awful for poor Ben for him to think his mother has died but she actually hasn't and it was a fake or false death rotf.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 18th February 2015, 02:05 PM

Ahhh a witness protection thing v MM??

BUUT THEn why would she come to yje Square where he be!! laugh.gif

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 03:03 PM

I know it was just a spin-off but DTC has already established Kathy is dead in the Children in Need 2014 clip with Ian being visited from ghosts of his past. Plus surely Kathy being revealed alive would overshadow the lead up of Lucy's killer being revealed and also why would Ian go ahead with the wedding if he realised his mum wasn't dead?

Posted by: Beaverhousen 18th February 2015, 03:33 PM

That wasn't canon and they've freely said before it was the biggest EE msitake EVER - we were all like whaaaat?? when they said it at the time aboot Kathy so I agree. They've said they're looking for ways around it and for the 30th Anniversary they're 'only just getting started'. It won't overshadow Lucy - we've been waiting 9 months - and a lo don't care aboot Kathy.

Posted by: CraigT 18th February 2015, 03:35 PM

I think creating Abi was the biggest EE mistake ever tbh

Posted by: April 18th February 2015, 03:35 PM

The Children In Need sketch was a dream sequence of Ian's - he still believes his mum to be dead, so I wouldn't think anything of that.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 18th February 2015, 03:42 PM

QUOTE(CraigT @ Feb 18 2015, 04:35 PM) *
I think creating Abi was the biggest EE mistake ever tbh


laugh.gif

I like her for being unintentionally laugh.gif

Good point, Hex Kitten Apreel!!

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 04:01 PM

I'm still very doubtful that Kathy could be alive. Even if it was a witness protection thing, would it really last 9 years? Plus I'm sure it's a choice to be placed into witness protection and I doubt Kathy would want to be separated from her children, especially not Ben who was only about 10 at the time.

Posted by: Cameron 18th February 2015, 08:06 PM

Tanya mucking up her line OMG!

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 08:08 PM

"How's Adam?" - using his real name rotf.gif

Posted by: April 18th February 2015, 08:11 PM

OMG Tanya messes up in her first scene! rotf.gif

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 08:12 PM

The Power Of Love won the wedding poll <3

Posted by: Cameron 18th February 2015, 08:14 PM

Was Jane meant to say something after Ian said she looked beautiful?

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 08:24 PM

Defintiely 100% seems that Jane is covering up for someone (either Cindy, Peter or Bobby).

Hopefully Bobby there is a red herring thing like Abi's laugh.gif What an anticlimax if it was Bobby. Would they pin a huge storyline like this, possibly one of the biggest ever, on a new 12 year old actor? laugh.gif

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 18th February 2015, 08:25 PM

omg if this is Bobby!! laugh.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 18th February 2015, 08:31 PM

f***.... it can't be Ian surely... unsure.gif laugh.gif I'm still confused.

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 08:32 PM

Did Jane make a mistake during the vows? It felt very awkward during that part. And lol at Tanya with "how's Adam?" and the look of fear on her face after she said it! laugh.gif

Posted by: FezVez 18th February 2015, 08:35 PM

Just rewinding a bit, how does Lauren know she was killed in the house?

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 08:36 PM

Guilty looks mean nothing - don't the actors find out half an hour beforehand if they killed Lucy?

Also it doesn't mean it's a Beale just because she was killed at home. Anyone with a grievance called have called in, maybe caught her using cocaine or hiding it, argued and killed her accidentally.

I still think Cindy with Jane helping her move the body though. Could be Bobby but I'm not sure they'd actually do that!

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 08:38 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 18 2015, 08:36 PM) *
Guilty looks mean nothing - don't the actors find out half an hour beforehand if they killed Lucy?

The killer was told at the start of the week, according to the Richard Blackwood live interview after yesterday's show.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 18th February 2015, 08:38 PM

The killer surely must be from the Beale family after tonight ? I would be surprised if it was anyone else my prediction is Cindy and Jane is covering for her.

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 18 2015, 08:38 PM) *
The killer was told at the start of the week.

Ah right, last I read it was half an hour before tomorrow's show!

If they're a good enough actor to pull it off they should keep their poker face kink.gif But then all these suspicious looks are part of the fun - they keep us guessing!

Posted by: Mart!n 18th February 2015, 08:48 PM

Its got to be within the Beale family, still sticking with Cindy and Jane theory. I even noticed at the Wedding Jane looked at Denise. Denise could have had a part in it as well.

Posted by: CraigT 18th February 2015, 08:50 PM

Lorna actually really surprised me ohmy.gif when you consider all her scenes were live she totally delivered.

Posted by: Liаm 18th February 2015, 08:52 PM

I've seen LOADS of online praise for Lorna and I have to agree she's been excellent this week ohmy.gif Never EVER thought I'd say that!

Oh my god @ this though!! laugh.gif


Posted by: jark 18th February 2015, 09:00 PM

Amazing episode but Abi absolutely slayed it. She was incredible.

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 09:03 PM

As a character, Abi is awful, but I do have to agree that Lorna was pretty good...

Posted by: April 18th February 2015, 09:04 PM

All of Abi's scenes have been live today! ohmy.gif She has done an amazing job.

I think there might have been a second mistake when Ian told Jane she looked beautiful. There was an awkward pause - so either she was meant to say something or the camera didn't cut off them fast enough?

I'm sticking with my theory from yesterday of Cindy being the killer with Jane and Denise covering up for her.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 18th February 2015, 09:05 PM

This anniversary has meant i have got back into EE. I was a huge fanatic a few years ago, and it's good to see so many classic characters still about/returning. Will hopefully be sticking with it for the long run again now biggrin.gif

Posted by: It's Lindsey 18th February 2015, 09:05 PM

One of my favourite parts from that episode was Jo Joyner's face once she realised her mistake laugh.gif both Jo and Laurie's recoveries were very professional though, good thing it was at the end of the scene, if it had been near the beginning it could have put them off


Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 09:07 PM

I can't stop watching these vines of Tanya's mistake! Seeing Laurie and Jo's faces go bright red is just hilarious. :')

Posted by: April 18th February 2015, 09:13 PM

Poor Jo! They covered it up well though other than their facial expressions.

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 18th February 2015, 09:36 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Feb 18 2015, 09:05 PM) *
This anniversary has meant i have got back into EE. I was a huge fanatic a few years ago, and it's good to see so many classic characters still about/returning. Will hopefully be sticking with it for the long run again now biggrin.gif

It's the same for me! I have to say I really can't wait for tomorrow so I don't know how all you lot are coping who have watched it religiously since the death!

Posted by: CraigT 18th February 2015, 10:12 PM

Poor Jo is getting destroyed on twitter laugh.gif

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 10:23 PM

QUOTE(CraigT @ Feb 18 2015, 10:12 PM) *
Poor Jo is getting destroyed on twitter laugh.gif

Bless her! laugh.gif I like the posts her and Laurie tweeted, shows they've taken it all in good spirit.

At least it's really good publicity for this week, with Jo today and the "who" or "you" case yesterday!

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 18th February 2015, 10:24 PM

Tanya's mistake laugh.gif Wish she would come back permanently, one of my favourite ever characters wub.gif
Abi slayed tonight ohmy.gif

Posted by: liamk97 18th February 2015, 10:37 PM

I wish she'd come back too. Seeing her again tonight made me realise how much I missed her being in it!

Posted by: CraigT 18th February 2015, 10:45 PM

no. tanya was an absolute horrid character. let her stay gone.

Posted by: It's Lindsey 18th February 2015, 11:49 PM

Tanya was one of those characters I liked and then I didn't and then I liked again, I think it depended on her story lines tbh, I'd like to see her back in EastEnders but maybe in a different way from before, like her not being associated with Max at all except when she's spending time with Abi and Lauren - their on and off relationship got really boring - she's been away for a while, if she came back they'd need to make sure she brought something new to the table, her friendship with Jane was something I really liked so maybe they could do something with that (if Jane doesn't end up guilty of and arrested for Lucy's murder! blink.gif )

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 12:08 AM

Oh yeah, she went through bad points (more to the blame of the producer and storylines) but when she was good, she was great.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 12:46 AM

Tanya should wait until Max is married to someone else before coming back or else she'll just be swept into the gravity of his storyleens.

I've always leeked Aby - she's hilario-u-s and acted really well these lives!!

Posted by: jase. 19th February 2015, 12:55 AM

Tanya's great and Abi was VERY good tonight ohmy.gif

Posted by: Jay ジ 19th February 2015, 06:18 AM

Jo's "How's Adam?"/reaction, omg! laugh.gif Bless her, slipping up is all part of the fun with a live show. Laurie's awkward reaction of not answering too, amazing. kink.gif

Incredibly excited for the next episode. Still not at all confident when it comes to whodunnit, but I suppose I'm leaning towards Cindy.

Oh and I have to agree, Lorna has really shown herself to be a more than capable actress during her live scenes!

Posted by: It's Lindsey 19th February 2015, 09:27 AM

QUOTE(Jay ジ @ Feb 19 2015, 06:18 AM) *
Jo's "How's Adam?"/reaction, omg! laugh.gif Bless her, slipping up is all part of the fun with a live show. Laurie's awkward reaction of not answering too, amazing. kink.gif


At least they all saw the funny side of it laugh.gif


Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:18 AM

So excited for tonight <3 Really hoping its Cindy or Denise, got money on both kink.gif I'd slightly rather it was Cindy as I've got £5 on her but only £3 on Denise. I'm really leaning towards Cindy with Jane covering for her but I've got that dark horse feeling it could be Denise. I know that Lucy's death meant that Denise felt guilt tripped into staying with Ian, but that doesn't mean she didn't accidentally kill Lucy in the heat of the moment. I don't think whoever did it meant to because nobody really has a strong enough motive - Cindy/Peter being jealous for example is enough for them to argue with Lucy but not for them to murder her.

Loads of people seem to think it's Bobby moreso now because Jane is planning to flee with him but I think it might just be because of her bond with Bobby - he was staying with her rather than Ian before after all. She's like a mother to him because Laura died when he was so young. It'd look a bit suspect if she took Cindy for example (although I guess it does anyway).

Mimi and especially Diane are brilliant actresses who haven't had a lot to do recently so either of them being the culprit would be brilliant anyway biggrin.gif

Posted by: pippa 19th February 2015, 10:25 AM

I would like to see Jo make a full time return, always liked her style. Denise i have overlooked for the murder but i am starting to doubt that now, it would also add up and be a fair outcome.

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 11:45 AM

Neighbours have made a spoof in celebration for EE's 30th anniversary:



It's quite sweet, if you excuse the Aussie humour!

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 11:59 AM

^^ Ha Ha

Paul acting like a Mitchell, and the bar lady pretending to be Peggy "Get Out Of My Pub"


Actually Neighbours celebrates its 30th Anniversary this year. And there is speculation Jason & Donovan and Kylie Minogue returning for its 30th Anniversary episode, as Scott and Charlene apparently their son Daniel is currently in Neighbours, so I imagine their daughter Maddie will be joining if the rumours are true.

Posted by: MC Delroy 19th February 2015, 12:26 PM

Which scenes are the live ones in these episodes of Eastenders?

Posted by: It's Lindsey 19th February 2015, 12:38 PM

QUOTE(MC Delroy @ Feb 19 2015, 12:26 PM) *
Which scenes are the live ones in these episodes of Eastenders?


I'm pretty sure the whole of tonight and tomorrow night's episodes are live,
the other episodes from this week have #EELive on screen during a live scene happy.gif

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 01:07 PM

I always knew Lorna Fitzgerald had it in her and I'm glad to finally be proved right. Now, let's give Abi some actually good storylines to shine in.

If Lucy was killed at home, Denise is very much still in the frame as she was living there at the time.

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 01:47 PM

It would be very Eastenders if Denise was revealed as the killer moments after the happiness of Kim giving birth.

Posted by: MC Delroy 19th February 2015, 02:11 PM

There are some new odds on William Hill now for tonight's episode:

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/g/5308576/Thursday-Live-Show-Specials.html

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 02:36 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 19 2015, 01:47 PM) *
It would be very Eastenders if Denise was revealed as the killer moments after the happiness of Kim giving birth.


Kim's birth is not going to be a happy one sad.gif

Posted by: CraigT 19th February 2015, 02:47 PM

EE do love their miserableness dont they?



Can Mary Smith pls make a return.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 03:08 PM

30 years ago this week when EE started, I hope I got the right chart.

The top 100 singles chart look like this

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19860216/7501

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 19 2015, 03:08 PM) *
30 years ago this week when EE started, I hope I got the right chart.

The top 100 singles chart look like this

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19860216/7501

The #1 seems quite fitting for EE.

Posted by: MC Delroy 19th February 2015, 03:16 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 19 2015, 03:08 PM) *
30 years ago this week when EE started, I hope I got the right chart.

The top 100 singles chart look like this

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19860216/7501

That chart is one year after the programme started.

This is the chart from 1985:

http://www.officialcharts.com/Charts/singles-chart/19850217/undefined

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 04:02 PM

Just like Lex I'm starting to have the dark horse feeling that it was Denise ...

This has just come up on my betting slip:


Cindy Beale (Williams) @ 14/1 Dead Heat Rules Apply

It seems they think there's gonna be more than 1...

Whitney has odds of 40/1 and 50/1 in some places!!

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 04:21 PM

Is dead heat rules where you can't tell the winner (in the case of a horse race for example), so it would be where two killed her and obviously you wouldn't be able to say one.

Surely they'd be really picky and say it's not a dead heat if say you bet on Cindy and Jane and Cindy did it but Jane helped her move the body? laugh.gif I can't how two people can kill her unless it wasn't an accident and they like beat her to death but we kind of know that didn't happen, she died from a head injury which was probably because she was hit by the music box.

Posted by: pippa 19th February 2015, 04:22 PM

Denise really seems to be in many peoples minds that she killed Lucy. I am unsure whether id be happy or not if it is. The camera moves in the Vic were key last night and both Whitney and Denise were certainly included. I am certain its not one of the Beales, that was a red herring, anyone could have visited the house that night and killed her. I believe tonight will have a double outcome, one of the Beales will have found her will be revealed and we will have a minute of thinking it was one of them and then the real killer will be revealed.

I am so excited for the reveal, i know i was super excited for who killed archie reveal but who killed Lucy has more twists and the live element all week has really added more excitement. I am loving EastEnders at the moment, what a turn around in the space of a year. The downside of live week means we will have a few dull weeks coming up but i can live with that based on the high quality of drama we have been treated to all week.

Denise or Whitney are the 2 i am edging for as Lucys killer.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 04:28 PM

I'm worried that they will apply those rules in the event of a cover-up! laugh.gif

Now that everyone (and the odds) have caught up with our Buzzjack reasoning about the cover-up etc, the dead heat rules have appeared.

Posted by: Wall-e 19th February 2015, 04:29 PM

I feel like Whitney has been too quiet this week and it would make sense if she killed her but it no doubt would have been by accident.

I still think It's Cindy / Bobby as Jane obviously has something to do with it.

Posted by: MC Delroy 19th February 2015, 04:34 PM

Bobby is still currently the favourite with William Hill. What a huge push for a character like Bobby or even Cindy if it turns out to be them! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 04:35 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Feb 19 2015, 04:22 PM) *
Denise really seems to be in many peoples minds that she killed Lucy. I am unsure whether id be happy or not if it is. The camera moves in the Vic were key last night and both Whitney and Denise were certainly included. I am certain its not one of the Beales, that was a red herring, anyone could have visited the house that night and killed her. I believe tonight will have a double outcome, one of the Beales will have found her will be revealed and we will have a minute of thinking it was one of them and then the real killer will be revealed.

I am so excited for the reveal, i know i was super excited for who killed archie reveal but who killed Lucy has more twists and the live element all week has really added more excitement. I am loving EastEnders at the moment, what a turn around in the space of a year. The downside of live week means we will have a few dull weeks coming up but i can live with that based on the high quality of drama we have been treated to all week.

Denise or Whitney are the 2 i am edging for as Lucys killer.

I thought this when I put my bet on, I can see myself like "YESSSS CINDY KLLED HER" and then it'll end up a few minutes later being somebody else who's finally revealed.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 04:44 PM

I'm really tempted to put £5 on hitney a the return is huge - 255 - and she's been really quiet.

Buuut why would Jane cover for Whitney? Unless Whitney is blackmailing her over Bobby or something?

But then all she'd have to do is call the police, threat neutralised so...

Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 05:14 PM

I think they'll fake reveal someone - possibly Cindy in the first episode. And then flashback will show it's someone else - possibly Whitney or Denise.

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 05:21 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 19 2015, 05:14 PM) *
I think they'll fake reveal someone - possibly Cindy in the first episode. And then flashback will show it's someone else - possibly Whitney or Denise.


That's quite the theory. Perhaps we find out who the killer is yet all the evidence the characters see points them to conclude someone else killed her. It could be how they avoid dropping the storyline completely next week, especially if the red herring themselves believes they are responsible. Or maybe I'm overthinking it.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 05:36 PM

WHITNEY'S ODDS ARE NOW 66/1

Posted by: HausofFrasier 19th February 2015, 05:38 PM

I am out in the night so they had BETTER keep the big reveal for the first episode drama.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 05:42 PM

Wait 2 episodes tonight??

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 07:05 PM

QUOTE(Beaverhousen @ Feb 19 2015, 05:42 PM) *
Wait 2 episodes tonight??

Yep - an hour long episode from 7:30pm then a half an hour "flashback episode" from 9:30pm.

I've suddenly become extremely excited for tonight's reveal!

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 07:23 PM

Not long to go now cheer.gif

Posted by: gooddelta 19th February 2015, 07:58 PM

Interesting that all of the music played in the cafe/Vic seems to be from 1985! Nice touch.

Posted by: مدهش* 19th February 2015, 08:02 PM

Trust you to notice that!

(Although I'm sure they were playing Rick Astley earlier no?)

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 08:04 PM

Yeah Never Gonna Give You Up was in the cafe - 1987 tongue.gif Although all the Vic's music is 1985 I think.

Posted by: gooddelta 19th February 2015, 08:15 PM

Kathy *.* x 10000000

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 08:15 PM

I LITERALLY JUST SCREAMED OH MY GOD WAT

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 19th February 2015, 08:20 PM

Kathy ohmy.gif

Posted by: gooddelta 19th February 2015, 08:25 PM

OMG ohmy.gif

Posted by: HausofFrasier 19th February 2015, 08:25 PM

ohmy.gif

(still another killer twist to come)

Posted by: Rooney 19th February 2015, 08:26 PM

I was right kink.gif

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 08:28 PM

I still think she's covering for the real killer somehow. suspic:

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 08:28 PM

Well wasn't I wrong about Kathy not returning! tongue.gif Thrilled she is, that's surely got to be a ratings booster for a good chunk of the year!!

And Jane! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 19th February 2015, 08:28 PM

Killer twist!!

Someone else HAS to be involved.

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 08:29 PM

I guess we'll find out in the flashback episode?

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 08:29 PM

Love the music from 1985 Tears For Fears, Aha, and a few others.

Phew!!!... that was a cracker of a episode, and if I remember rightly, Mark was the first person to enter Reg's flat in the opening episode, Martin just took his brother's place.

Jane, I really thought it was Cindy.

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 08:30 PM

Kathy coming back is fantastic.

Maybe original Cindy will show up since she's in the Caribbean right now wink.gif

I guessed the killer months ago but was thrown off course by last night's episode!

Posted by: Chez Wombat 19th February 2015, 08:30 PM

I kinda suspected it, could she have been acting more guilty through the week? laugh.gif I sense that's not the whole story though.

Gah, I just want the next one now, turned into such an EE fanboy again this week

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 08:30 PM

Kat drunk was giving me life. Tina, Sonia and Denises faces when Kim was giving birth! laugh.gif And YES at Kathy returning cheer.gif

Posted by: Chez Wombat 19th February 2015, 08:31 PM

Also, is this actually the end for Dot? ohmy.gif sad.gif

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 08:31 PM

I was kinda waiting for Kathy to show up when Phil was waiting where he was, so wasn't shocked by it, but so good to have her back! wub.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 08:31 PM

oh and Kathy ohmy.gif

I want her to come back full time

Posted by: HausofFrasier 19th February 2015, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Feb 19 2015, 08:31 PM) *
Also, is this actually the end for Dot? ohmy.gif sad.gif

That broke my heart. Surely her last scene won't be leaving the square in a police car though?

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 08:32 PM

The gift for a 30th (wedding) anniversary is pearl - Kim's baby. Nice touch!

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(Calum Hood @ Feb 19 2015, 08:31 PM) *
I was kinda waiting for Kathy to show up when Phil was waiting where he was, so wasn't shocked by it, but so good to have her back! wub.gif

I was expecting Grant tbh!

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 08:35 PM

Kathy or Grant was who I suspected.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 19 2015, 08:33 PM) *
I was expecting Grant tbh!



I was expecting Den to be found in the cellar laugh.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 08:36 PM

Jane was my original prediction but I had really been leaning towards Cindy the last couple of weeks so I am surprised ohmy.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 08:36 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 19 2015, 08:35 PM) *
Kathy or Grant was who I suspected.

Same smile.gif

Posted by: Maurice Horan 19th February 2015, 08:36 PM

People on DS are saying Jane was the last Red Herring and the exactly killer will be revealed at 9.25.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 08:37 PM

I thought Jane about a month or two ago... But I stopped thinking she actually did it and I thought she covered it up ohmy.gif

Still expecting another twist - they were deliberately a bit ambiguous to keep people watching the live ep as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kathy came back properly ohmy.gif Her leaving Hollyoaks seemed like completely the wrong thing (one of her sons was struggling with an eating disorder, another was in the frame for a murder of someone who isn't even dead) so I think she took the better offer.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 08:37 PM

Hmmm I thiink that it's still Cindy - look at her reaction, getting crazy and Jane calming her down. We all KNEW Jane would be acting a large part if Bobby was the killer or Cindy as they're yet unproven.

It's either Bobby or Cindy

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 08:37 PM

Still think Jane is covering, will find out later!

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 08:38 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Feb 19 2015, 09:37 PM) *
Still think Jane is covering, will find out later!


Oop, same hurrr

#postedsametime

Posted by: مدهش* 19th February 2015, 08:40 PM

Jane is a disappointing reveal tbh, I still think she's covering up also. Why on earth would she have even been there if she wasn't called in for Cindy/Bobby in a state of panic etc

Posted by: JosephStyles 19th February 2015, 08:41 PM

The BBC website has confirmed that Kathy is returning to the square later in the year! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 08:42 PM

Yeah I think Jane is covering for Cindy

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 08:42 PM

Jane is too obvious and disappointing.

The guy who put all those bets on her, well woman, in October basically ruined the story and leaked the plot and was an insider if it's Jane. The pictures from the wedding on digitalspy would've ruined the story if it was Jane ... I just don't think it was/

Unless theyw ere hiding her in plain sight, then it was a cover-up and she's still covering up for Cindy!

Posted by: JosephStyles 19th February 2015, 08:44 PM

I think Jane actually did it but there must be more to it than that - someone else may have given her a reason to have killed Lucy?

Posted by: Aphrodite 19th February 2015, 08:45 PM

Im expecting a twist that its either cindy or bobby, jane is disappointing. It was a good episode but not as good as the night before. Kathy back is great cheer.gif

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 08:45 PM

Kathy will be back permanently I reckon. She probably only joined Hollyoaks for job stability believing there was no chance of an EE return.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 08:47 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 19 2015, 09:45 PM) *
Kathy will be back permanently I reckon. She probably only joined Hollyoaks for job stability believing there was no chance of an EE return.


And then she left when they started to show interest in giving her job back.

I knew it'd be her so wasn't surprised even when everyone in the house was like, but she deed. Nope - witness protection bayyby!!

Posted by: Ryan. 19th February 2015, 08:49 PM

I agree with the majority and that I think there's still someone else involved, I still really think Cindy is involved somehow - especially with that jewellery box clue.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 08:49 PM

We know Peter is leaving, maybe its Peter in the end, he was a bit jealous that Lucy was Ian's favourite out of the twins.

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 19 2015, 08:45 PM) *
Kathy will be back permanently I reckon. She probably only joined Hollyoaks for job stability believing there was no chance of an EE return.


I swear when she was on CBB a fortune teller told her that Kathy would return from the dead in the years to come! Mind blown.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 08:49 PM

And her reaction with ripping up the card.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 08:53 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Feb 19 2015, 08:49 PM) *
I swear when she was on CBB a fortune teller told her that Kathy would return from the dead in the years to come! Mind blown.

Omg it actually did laugh.gif I remember now!

Posted by: gooddelta 19th February 2015, 08:57 PM

Can't wait to see Kathy back full time, on the proviso that she returns to work at the caff of course.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 08:58 PM

Do we know anything at all about who the father of Kim's baby is?

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 09:00 PM

Denise referred to him as Vincent tonight and that was the name DS referred to Richard Blackwood's character as in a recent article. He also was very interested in Kim being taken away in an ambulance.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 19 2015, 09:00 PM) *
Denise referred to him as Vincent tonight and that was the name DS referred to Richard Blackwood's character as in a recent article. He also was very interested in Kim being taken away in an ambulance.

Yeah, 'cause I was gonna say I think it's got to be him with the way he was acting as she was taken away.

Posted by: JosephStyles 19th February 2015, 09:01 PM

Yeah I'm very much thinking that Richard Blackwood's character is the dad! Wiki says that Vincent Hubbard is Kim's husband too. I had the theory as soon as I saw him looking at the ambulance actually.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(Calum Hood @ Feb 19 2015, 08:58 PM) *
Do we know anything at all about who the father of Kim's baby is?

I think it's that new character- Vincent I think is his name

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 19th February 2015, 09:04 PM

It was mentioned that he was connected to a number of families too so that's already the Mitchells and the Foxs.

I'm glad it looks as though Kim will be given a serious storyline.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 09:07 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Feb 19 2015, 09:01 PM) *
Yeah I'm very much thinking that Richard Blackwood's character is the dad! Wiki says that Vincent Hubbard is Kim's husband too. I had the theory as soon as I saw him looking at the ambulance actually.


That's the guy that wanted to see Ronnie earlier in the week.

Posted by: Umi 19th February 2015, 09:18 PM

Feel terrible for Denise but Kim's anger is entirely understandable.

Posted by: JosephStyles 19th February 2015, 09:20 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 19 2015, 09:07 PM) *
That's the guy that wanted to see Ronnie earlier in the week.


I know heehee.gif

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 09:30 PM

Love that Bobby has swapped heads whilst his sister gets murdered.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

Bobby ohmy.gif

Posted by: Wall-e 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

KNEW IT! YASSSSSSSS

Posted by: gooddelta 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

Errr...

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

LOL I think I may have joked that Bobby did it 10 months ago.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

manson.gif

Posted by: Jade 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

WHAT.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 10:01 PM

Bobby ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:02 PM

Wtf. Sorry but what a waste of all that hype laugh.gif BOBBY f***ING BEALE

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 10:02 PM

mellow.gif

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 10:03 PM

I knew it!!! Was hoping it would have been Denise though. She was totally giving me 'You need slappin dahhhn' vibes laugh.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:03 PM

OMG... so shocked

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:03 PM

Feel really cheated. It could have been Denise accidentally after that fight they had, it could have been Ben or Jay after what happened, it could have been Abi, but oh no, Bobby was a more suitable option. manson.gif

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 10:04 PM

That really is so disappointing. All the clues and drama from the past 10 months just feel wasted. Can this just be a dream please?

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 19th February 2015, 10:04 PM

I actually laughed out loud.

laugh.gif

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 10:05 PM

The next question, what Bobby Beale was it? The blonde mute, the small eye'd mullet, or the bucktoothed bowl cut? That is the question

Posted by: JosephStyles 19th February 2015, 10:06 PM

I don't think it was disappointing at all actually! Ian's own SON did it, someone he'd never expect and it's bound to send shockwaves through the family. I think it could really develop in an interesting way!

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:07 PM

So Jane moved the body to the woods, took Bobby and went back up North after that.

Richard Blackwood's character goes back to that episode, so something is going to come out of that.

Posted by: Chez Wombat 19th February 2015, 10:08 PM

LOL I srsly didn't think it would actually be the kid that did it WHAT ohmy.gif that's ridiculous even for Eastenders! It's like Maggie Simpson shooting Mr Burns laugh.gif Was near certain in the last moments when it was obvious it wasn't Jane, it would be Cindy.

I don't remember a time I was SO fixated on the TV lol

Posted by: FezVez 19th February 2015, 10:09 PM

I knew as soon as Lucy mentioned a mother's love.

A mother's love made Jane cover up for Bobby!

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 10:09 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Feb 19 2015, 10:06 PM) *
I don't think it was disappointing at all actually! Ian's own SON did it, someone he'd never expect and it's bound to send shockwaves through the family. I think it could really develop in an interesting way!

I suppose the aftermath will be good - it bloody better be! - but I still think it's really disappointing. Just makes a mockery of the whole storyline really. Sigh. sad.gif

Like I say, hopefully the aftermath will be good and make up for it! On a different note, I did like gun in the flowers scene with Vincent and Ronnie, making a nod to Den's first death.

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 10:10 PM

I find it quite funny that scenes before and shortly after Lucy's death show Bobby looking completely different to what he looks like in the flashback. It does explain some things:

Why Jane was quick to remove Bobby for several months.
Possibly why Jane was willing to become Ian's wife again-guilt that her family fell apart without her.
Why Emma insisted it was STILL murder.

It does not explain the following:

How Emma worked out how it happened.
Also I do not believe Emma would have been phoning Bobby about her suspicions-she must have initially thought it was Jane and accused her then met with her to discover it was actually Bobby.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:12 PM

Watch Jane take the blame for the next 10 months before everyone finally finds out it was Bobby. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 10:14 PM

Live stream if anyone is interested

http://iframe.ggwebcast.com/bbc/eastenders01/02/

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:14 PM

I like to know how things are going to unfold after that and where its heading.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:15 PM

I know it's more impactful to be a member of his own family, but it just feels like a total colossal let down that there's been 10 months of twists and turns, all those people who had grievances with Lucy but it just ends up being that Bobby was a bit of a little shit.

I had a gut feeling it could be Bobby when it was said that the culprit "wasn't necessarily" on the suspect list but I still really thought Cindy was more likely to have killed her and Jane panicked and covered it up. It just seems a total let down for the iconic 30th anniversary storyline to be pinned on BOBBY BEALE.

I guess it depends how it develops now, could be interesting with how they handle it and whether Bobby actually realises what he's done or is he a complete psycho laugh.gif Perhaps this storyline is more to do with how it develops than the actual reveal.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:20 PM

When Denise was slapping her, I was thinking where is Lucy I didn't expect her to be outside, I thought Denise shoved her in the cupboard. laugh.gif

Posted by: Cremey 19th February 2015, 10:20 PM

Haha amazing. I'm just glad it wasn't Jane because that would've been too obvious!

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:22 PM

I'd literally rather it was Jane or Abi drama.gif

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:23 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 19 2015, 10:20 PM) *
When Denise was slapping her, I was thinking where is Lucy I didn't expect her to be outside, I thought Denise shoved her in the cupboard. laugh.gif

I thought the same, that maybe she'd shoved her under the bed or something, which would have been much better. drama.gif

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:24 PM

I actually screamed "YESS" thinking I'd won my bet for Denise but then you saw Lucy sat there still alive drama.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:26 PM

I would have had Peter as the one that killed her, at least it would have gave closure to the character when he leaves. I just think after all this time it was a bit of a let down Bobby did it.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 10:29 PM

Would have been much better as Cindy Beale!

BUT!! LMAO!!! I got a free bet of £20 when I put a last minute wager on Whitney at odds of 66/1 so I put it on Bobby at like 7.20 JUST before the bets would've closed and ... I won $55!

Is there no chance that the front door is open from someone running out??

Like Whitney slipping in oorrr Cindy hitting her and Bobby picking it up after the fight and Jane protecting both of them as both their finger prints would be on it??

I reckon Max came in from the back, argued with Lucy and left by the front door. Bobby wakes up, picks up the box, goes downstairs and strikes her in anger.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:30 PM

And what happened with Max after it looked as if he was headed straight for the back door?

EDIT: That seems plausible, Michael.

Posted by: Gage 19th February 2015, 10:32 PM

Glad I put a backup bet on Bobby in case Jane didn't do it! cheer.gif

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(Gage @ Feb 19 2015, 11:32 PM) *
Glad I put a backup bet on Bobby in case Jane didn't do it! cheer.gif



Hoigh Foive!! Me too, last minute free bet!!

Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 19 2015, 10:24 PM) *
I actually screamed "YESS" thinking I'd won my bet for Denise but then you saw Lucy sat there still alive drama.gif


You and me both Liam! sarcasm.gif

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 10:38 PM

Also Abi: I bumped into Lucy and battered her.

She is almost rivalling Shabnam for queen of Walford right now!

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 10:38 PM

Haha us too!! We were like, 'Ahhh so it was Denise, won £100!' But ... no. As soon as I saw the empty floor hen the camera panned down I thought it'd be Cindy instead, but what niggled me was she acted really sweet in the episode whereas Bobby didn't.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:40 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 19 2015, 10:38 PM) *
Also Abi: I bumped into Lucy and battered her.

She is almost rivalling Shabnam for queen of Walford right now!

Omg ikr I was laughing so hard laugh.gif

Posted by: Wall-e 19th February 2015, 10:40 PM

I think the music box played 'Just Give Me A Reason' by P!nk, Lucy fell back in disbelief and hit her head off the table and died.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:41 PM

QUOTE(Wall-e @ Feb 19 2015, 10:40 PM) *
I think the music box played 'Just Give Me A Reason' by P!nk, Lucy fell back in disbelief and hit her head off the table and died.

laugh.gif!

Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 10:41 PM

Where to start with tonight. Omg - what a perfect roller coaster (except the reveal of Bobby as the killer).

Kathy back! I knew it! I can't wait to see her back in action on the Square.

DEAN! Is he dead? The spoilers suggest Mick might have killed him.

TRACEY? I'm gutted she wasn't given a line to recognise her part in EE over the past 30 years.

Denise and Lucy's bitch fight was amazing.

Kim's live birth was so well done except the fact that we're expected to believe it managed to push out the really tight dress.

It's ridiculous that practically half the square were about to cover up Nick's death. Really? Thankfully Dot grassed herself up.

Vincent & Ronnie! ohmy.gif

My opinion on Abi has changed dramatically - such a brill character the last few days!

Martin & Stacey is definitely happening. Mrs Stacey Fowler will be here by this time next year - I'll call it now.

Posted by: Beaverhousen 19th February 2015, 10:45 PM

LMAO AT THE DEATH COVER-UP!! How can half the square sit there and go 'Ooh, aha aha this is a good idea to hide a dead body' - ridiculous.

And yup - I was thinking that about the tight dress and the baby.

Should've been Cindy. Could've had a new Janine.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:45 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 19 2015, 10:41 PM) *
DEAN! Is he dead? The spoilers suggest Mick might have killed him.

It was 5/1 on William Hill that there'd be another murder just a couple of hours before the show, I'm sure yesterday it was like 25/1.

Inside info right there tbh!

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:46 PM

I thought he renewed his contract though? Unless that was a red herring, in which case *.*

Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 10:46 PM

Pissing myself.


Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 10:47 PM

I hope Dean's dead. It certainly looked like it - but would they have ANOTHER death so quickly?

That would mean Lucy, Emma, Nick, Dean and Stan would all die within one year.

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 10:47 PM

More like the music box played 'Just Give Me A Reason' by P!nk, Michael jumped out shouting 'OMFG SCREEEEEEEECH GET HA OFF!' Lucy shit herself and fell back hitting her head off the table and died.


Posted by: Rabbit Froot 19th February 2015, 10:49 PM

I liked the community coming together to help Dot out. It shows how much they care for her and appreciate the help she's given everyone.

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 10:50 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 19 2015, 10:47 PM) *
That would mean Lucy, Emma, Nick, Dean and Stan would all die within one year.

Half as much as Hollyoaks. kink.gif

As ridiculous as it was watching Bobby being revealed as the killer, I think EE could make this quite disturbing with a child being a murderer and the effect this has had on Jane will be good to explore.

Posted by: Wall-e 19th February 2015, 10:52 PM

I want dean dead but I wan't a satisfying ending to the rape case.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 19th February 2015, 10:52 PM

All this Lucy drama I forgot about what happened to Dean laugh.gif If he is dead I wonder where that leaves the Shabnam baby storyline.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 10:52 PM

!!! OH MY GOD

THe one of Miss Piggy with "has anyone seen my Denny" is hilarious too!

Omg and I remembered "you're not going to be my new stepmum"!! I mean imagine the *.*ness if ABi was the killer.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 10:53 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Feb 19 2015, 10:47 PM) *
More like the music box played 'Just Give Me A Reason' by P!nk, Michael jumped out shouting 'OMFG SCREEEEEEEECH GET HA OFF!' Lucy shit herself and fell back hitting her head off the table and died.

This made me laugh out loud so badly w00t.gif

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 19 2015, 10:50 PM) *
Half as much as Hollyoaks. kink.gif

As much as half ohmy.gif Thought it would be like 25% considering there's a death in hollyoaks like every week

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:53 PM

I nearly forgot what is going to happen with Dot, they wouldn't bang up an old woman would they. Could have had some closure on Jim Branning.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 10:53 PM

QUOTE(Wall-e @ Feb 19 2015, 10:52 PM) *
I want dean dead but I wan't a satisfying ending to the rape case.

Yeah, it would be a bit underwhelming if he actually were dead because that scene tonight in the cellar was so random and was just consumed by all the other drama going on at the same time. It needs to be dealt with once the anniversary has all blown over.

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2015, 10:54 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Feb 19 2015, 10:47 PM) *
More like the music box played 'Just Give Me A Reason' by P!nk, Michael jumped out shouting 'OMFG SCREEEEEEEECH GET HA OFF!' Lucy shit herself and fell back hitting her head off the table and died.


Suicide -murder AS I SAID

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 19 2015, 10:46 PM) *
Pissing myself.




ha ha


Did Bobby kill him as well laugh.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 10:57 PM

I really want bobby to turn all psycho now. Maybe he could kill Peter considering he is leaving laugh.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 10:59 PM

Dean can't be dead, he signed a new contract earlier this year.

Posted by: Calum Hood 19th February 2015, 11:01 PM

And I don't really think DTC's idea of "justice" would be Mick killing him. As if that would give Linda any peace of mind.

Posted by: Cameron 19th February 2015, 11:02 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 19 2015, 10:56 PM) *
ha ha
Did Bobby kill him as well laugh.gif


Probably, remember Denny was mean to Tiffany when Bobby and her were dating? wink.gif

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 11:03 PM

I agree - "justice" would be it coming to a head later on. I expect it will die down a bit, then maybe he rapes someone else or it comes out that he actually raped Shabnam too and that tips it over the edge and he gets sent down for it.

QUOTE(Ultraviolence1989 @ Feb 19 2015, 10:57 PM) *
I really want bobby to turn all psycho now. Maybe he could kill Peter considering he is leaving laugh.gif

They might as well laugh.gif

"Peter came home late and his tea went cold and Jane was upset, sorry I hit him over the head sad.gif"

Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 11:06 PM

I really can't see where they are gonna go with this storyline now? Have Bobby shipped off somewhere? Eventually Kathy is going to come home and knock some sense into everyone?

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 19th February 2015, 11:08 PM

I loved both the episodes tonight wub.gif My only complaint though would be I think the flashback episode should have been an hour long and included how Lucy's body was moved and how Emma worked it out.

Also does anyone else think Max was involved in moving the body as he thinks Abi did it?

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 19 2015, 11:03 PM) *
"Peter came home late and his tea went cold and Jane was upset, sorry I hit him over the head sad.gif"



With the toaster laugh.gif wink.gif

Posted by: liamk97 19th February 2015, 11:14 PM

I've just watched the Q&As with Dominic and he seems positive about how things will be panning out so I trust that any disappointment from the reveal will be eradicated. Tomorrow's episode will involve lots of tissues so be aware of an emotional half an hour!

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 11:14 PM

I am certain the live ep will go right from Ian saying "I want to know everything that happened" - he probably still thinks it's Jane.

And then she'll tell him (and finally us kink.gif) what happened with moving the body

Posted by: Mart!n 19th February 2015, 11:14 PM

It be interesting to see what Jane is going to tell Ian tomorrow, will she tell him that Bobby did it or she did it, and where their marriage will go from here

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 19th February 2015, 11:46 PM

Dominic Treadwell-Collins aka the executive producer on the reveal:

QUOTE(Digital Spy)
He replied: "There was one other suspect for about a day, but then it didn't feel right. We always said that this story had to come from the heart, and with this, it's the start of a whole big new story for the Beales.

"We kept on going on about [2003 novel] We Need to Talk About Kevin - we need to talk about Bobby! So actually this is the beginning of an even bigger story for the Beales. We've got to keep going!"

Treadwell-Collins confirmed that young actor Eliot Carrington, who plays Bobby, was made aware of his character's guilt on Monday evening (February 16) before the BBC soap's Live Week began.

Carrington responded positively to the twist, pointing out that it was natural for Bobby's adoptive mother Jane to cover for him.

Treadwell-Collins said: "Most people didn't know. We had to keep it quiet because things leak. We always say that if someone tells you a secret, you always tell one person. I always tell one person! We couldn't afford that.

"We told [Eliot] on Monday. We told his dad before that obviously and checked that it was okay, but we knew that it was always going to be Bobby. But when we told him... he's so clever, Eliot! He said, 'Oh God, that makes sense. Of course Jane had to do it because otherwise Bobby would go to juvey'. He's a clever little boy!"

Treadwell-Collins also revealed that EastEnders' story producer Alex Lamb was the first person to suggest that the culprit should be Bobby.

"My idea was Jane and then Cindy," he explained. "And then Alex Lamb said Bobby. We were at story conference and we went up to my hotel room - [series producer] Sharon [Batten], Alex Lamb, [script producer] Manpreet Dosanjh and I.

"We sat there and came up with it and we jumped up and down! If you look at the pieces now, Jane took Bobby away! We cleverly, I hope, seeded everything."


I think Bobbys going to turn out to be some devil child laugh.gif

Posted by: April 19th February 2015, 11:50 PM

He should've stuck with Jane then Cindy. It would've been a more believable outcome.

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2015, 11:55 PM

I guess Bobby being REALLY messed up is a good big storyline but I'd still rather it was a competent actor like Mimi Keene.

Posted by: James1987 20th February 2015, 12:03 AM

I'm in two minds about this now...

All that hype and it turns out to be Bobby...as has been said this could lead to some interesting storylines and the effects on the characters involved but at the same time I do still feel a bit cheated as I really thought it would be Jane

Both episodes were great but that ending just felt like an anti climax (especially as we've already had 'good child gone bad' stories such as those with Ben) so I'll judge it after tomorrow's show.

Posted by: CDC 20th February 2015, 12:52 AM

we're gonna have another dotty cotton on our hands aren't we

i still wanna know how lauren worked out that it was bobby, i mean surely you'd never suspect a child of killing someone?!

Posted by: jase. 20th February 2015, 01:02 AM

Ugh, Dean can't be dead, he apparently signed a new contract http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/tv/eastenders-spoilers-rapist-dean-found-not-guilty-matt-di-angelo-says-sadly-realistic/

Posted by: CraigT 20th February 2015, 01:51 AM

My head hurts.

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 04:12 AM

OH MY GOD



rotf.gif

Posted by: Calum Hood 20th February 2015, 08:07 AM



laugh.gif!

Posted by: T Boy 20th February 2015, 10:26 AM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 20 2015, 04:12 AM) *
OH MY GOD



rotf.gif


laugh.gif dying.

I've come around to Bobby being the killer. I remember it was said that the outcome would be more sad than shocking and I can't think of anything more sad. Fact of the matter is Lucy died for no reason even though everyone concerned was sure there'd be a nasty, selfish killer out there. Please can we get some Laura Beale mentions now?

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 10:54 AM

Next season of Orange is the New Black heehee.gif



QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 20 2015, 10:26 AM) *
I've come around to Bobby being the killer. I remember it was said that the outcome would be more sad than shocking and I can't think of anything more sad. Fact of the matter is Lucy died for no reason even though everyone concerned was sure there'd be a nasty, selfish killer out there. Please can we get some Laura Beale mentions now?

Same, I think we could be looking at a few dark and emotional scenes coming up - just what EE should be about!

Oh I love this: someone screamed so loudly at the reveal of Lucy's killer that their neighbours called the police!! http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/fun/s2/eastenders/news/a630239/eastenders-police-called-to-screaming-viewers-home-after-lucy-killer-reveal.html#~p4Ppk9Jz5T8ktV

Posted by: James1987 20th February 2015, 11:52 AM

QUOTE(Calum Hood @ Feb 20 2015, 08:07 AM) *


laugh.gif!


Ha! That's the funniest thing I've seen for a long time!!!!

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 12:05 PM

22 July 2003

9 year old Lucy Beale didn't know it at the time but this was a day that would change her life forever........

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 12:13 PM

Eliot Carrington is the luckiest actor in Britain at the moment, he is the 4th different person to play the role of Bobby and he is the one who will become most well-known now. I can see him and the character of Bobby moving to the forefront of EastEnders now, a potential legendary character in the making as he grows older and becomes a teenager and a young adult.

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 12:15 PM

It's so annoying seeing people say "people would have been unhappy with the reveal regardless" because that's really not the case. People are unhappy with Bobby being the killer because they think it makes a mockery of the storyline and the show. Just hopefully opinions will change with the aftermath.

I wonder if there's a reason Bobby was re-casted - perhaps the previous one and his family didn't agree to the idea of him being the killer?

Posted by: THEO. 20th February 2015, 12:31 PM

So since September 2013 I have watched a total of about 10 episodes (the lead-up to and aftermath of Lucy's death and a random episode two weeks or so ago where Lauren discovered a piece of yellow paper) and I have to say that I've thoroughly enjoyed all four episodes thus far this week. Thursday's hour-long episode was obviously the highlight but it's been a very clever set of episodes with some very emotional scenes in all episodes and great acting from the actors, particularly those appearing in live scenes. It's difficult to pin a 'favourite moment' but I guess it would be Ian, Sharon, Stacey et. al gathering together to support Dot in her hour of need, only for her be taken away in a police car anyway. I really hope that's not the last we see of Dot as she's been essential since forever.

The brief reappearances of Tanya and Peggy were very unnecessary, as nice as it was to see the characters, particularly with the former's iconic "Who's Adam?" ruining her moment. I'm looking forward to the reintroductions of Martin and Kathy though as they were both before my time as a regular viewer, especially if it means the cutest couple STACIN happen.

Also, RE: Lucy's killer, Bobby did seem a disappointing reveal at the time but I trust that the showrunners know what they're doing with it. I didn't realise the scene with Jane, Bobby and Lucy was live though so kudos to Eliot Carrington!

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 12:56 PM

I just watched the flashback episode on the iPlayer again and realised that at the beginning whilst the radio was on in the chip shop where Billy Mitchell was working a female voice said "here's the current number one" and instead of playing "Sigma - Nobody to love" they played "Aloe Blaac - The Man". Poor forgotten Sigma laugh.gif

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 01:09 PM

Some funny pictures laugh.gif






Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 01:14 PM

QUOTE(MC Delroy @ Feb 20 2015, 12:56 PM) *
I just watched the flashback episode on the iPlayer again and realised that at the beginning whilst the radio was on in the chip shop where Billy Mitchell was working a female voice said "here's the current number one" and instead of playing "Sigma - Nobody to love" they played "Aloe Blaac - The Man". Poor forgotten Sigma laugh.gif

They tried! tongue.gif

Tbh the attention to detail was pretty impressive: Jane's hair being the length it was at the time; Lee's hood being up because at the time he had much shorter hair; Abi's dog still being alive; the music played at Roxy's party being of the time; Liam referring to David who was still in the show etc.

Posted by: HausofFrasier 20th February 2015, 01:27 PM

I am all caught up with last night's episodes. A brilliantly done episode, absolutely gripping stuff (the whole week). My initial reaction was the same as most here at the reveal. Really underwhelmed and seeing his reveal just made it all the more ridiculous. BUT i have faith that this is going somewhere good. That article referencing 'We Need To Talk About Kevin' gives me hope that they have properly considered the implications of such a young killer and i think there is a lot of scope to go along with that. Children are disturbing people at times and it's never really explored much on TV so this could be quite the spectacle as the story continues to unfold.

QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Feb 19 2015, 10:08 PM) *
LOL I srsly didn't think it would actually be the kid that did it WHAT ohmy.gif that's ridiculous even for Eastenders! It's like Maggie Simpson shooting Mr Burns laugh.gif Was near certain in the last moments when it was obvious it wasn't Jane, it would be Cindy.

I don't remember a time I was SO fixated on the TV lol

That was my first thought! And look at how iconic that reveal is and how well remembered it is today. It could have been one of the other suspects but this has now led to an even bigger talking point that any of those characters will have, so if ANYTHING it's continued good exposure for the story. Will forever be remembered as a huge moment for the show.

(and yes so fixated myself!)

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 02:20 PM

It must have been Jane who Emma Summerhayes was talking to during the festive period and who received the text message as well.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 02:24 PM

I've just starting rewatching the whole week in prep for tonight's live episode. Don't judge me.

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 02:33 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 20 2015, 02:24 PM) *
I've just starting rewatching the whole week in prep for tonight's live episode. Don't judge me.

I've been watching them on iPlayer soon after they've been aired so you're not alone! tongue.gif It helps to make sense of things once you've calmed down from the excitement of watching first time.

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 02:53 PM

DTC said to Digital Spy that Jane and then Cindy were originally planned as the killer, but then somebody else suggested Bobby. Apparently all the stuff that actually fits (now I'm calmer the next day, I can see it's seeded quite well) such as Jane taking him away and Bobby turning up on the common where Lucy was found wasn't even planned because Bobby wasn't meant to be the killer then. It's just quite convenient that it all fits like that! It does make sense I suppose it's just I wish they didn't hype it up so much about who killed her because it being Bobby just feels disappointing compared to the numerous people with grievances. I'm still kind of disappointed but it being someone in her family makes it more saddening than say Abi or Whitney in a psycho moment I agree. And it gives scope for an even bigger storyline, whereas if it was just Abi in a psycho angry moment it'd just be Abi carted off and that's that really. Because "things die".

Thinking about it, it is really sad that Lucy dodged so many bullets (all those people who had grievances with her, all those altercations the night of her death) but it was just her own brother who killed her - and when Jane came he didn't even realise he did it.

QUOTE(MC Delroy @ Feb 20 2015, 02:20 PM) *
It must have been Jane who Emma Summerhayes was talking to during the festive period and who received the text message as well.

Thinking back, she did say "it's still murder" - that's when I started suspecting Cindy really strongly as I thought they'd maybe had an argument of some sort that went horribly wrong. Jane must have told her that Bobby didn't mean it or didn't realise he killed her. It does explain why Emma didn't just go to the police immediately as you would when you've solved a murder, she was probably conflicted between getting justice/finishing the case she worked on for so many months and the fact that the culprit is an 11 year old.

Also they only told Elliot he was the killer on Monday ohmy.gif

Posted by: T Boy 20th February 2015, 03:04 PM

I think Emma definitely met with Jane, the dialogue from that scene makes sense that way. Bobby being the killer also explains why Emma acted so traumatised about the whole thing. I don't think she'd be too conflicted were Ben or Whitney or Lee the killer. Also it explains why Jane was so pissed off about Emma trying to figure out who killed Lucy just the day before.

I want an explanation, even off screen, as to how Emma figured it out because I still can't fathom how she did it.

Also I've seen suggestions that Max helped move the body. Quite possibly because the 'you know' line still doesn't fit.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 03:07 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 20 2015, 03:04 PM) *
I think Emma definitely met with Jane, the dialogue from that scene makes sense that way. Bobby being the killer also explains why Emma acted so traumatised about the whole thing. I don't think she'd be too conflicted were Ben or Whitney or Lee the killer. Also it explains why Jane was so pissed off about Emma trying to figure out who killed Lucy just the day before.

I want an explanation, even off screen, as to how Emma figured it out because I still can't fathom how she did it.

Also I've seen suggestions that Max helped move the body. Quite possibly because the 'you know' line still doesn't fit.


Jane's car was missing from the video of Lauren? "It wasn't there" would make sense if it were Jane's car. Presumably she then called up Jane on a hunch and Jane told her the truth. I'm guessing we'll discover tonight that Max also helped with the cover-up (thinking Abi killed her) hence the "you know" comment just before Emma passed out.

Posted by: T Boy 20th February 2015, 03:11 PM

Now all we need is the explanation as to why Abi turned into a shifty psycho over the last 10 months.

18th April 'I love that dog'
27th September 'Things die'

Posted by: CraigT 20th February 2015, 03:28 PM

'I bumped into Lucy and i battered her''


queen abi is now my new fave.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 03:32 PM

I preferred Denise and Lucy's bitch fight, but that line from Abi was iconic!

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 03:34 PM

As a suggestion, perhaps there could be a thread of unanswered questions and then an answer can be shown next to it once its revealed in the show?

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 20 2015, 02:53 PM) *
DTC said to Digital Spy that Jane and then Cindy were originally planned as the killer, but then somebody else suggested Bobby. Apparently all the stuff that actually fits (now I'm calmer the next day, I can see it's seeded quite well) such as Jane taking him away and Bobby turning up on the common where Lucy was found wasn't even planned because Bobby wasn't meant to be the killer then.

I thought he said previously that the killer hadn't been changed after the storyline had started?

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 03:36 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 20 2015, 03:34 PM) *
I thought he said previously that the killer hadn't been changed after the storyline had started?

Me too but it's on DS now laugh.gif

Posted by: HausofFrasier 20th February 2015, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(CraigT @ Feb 20 2015, 03:28 PM) *
'I bumped into Lucy and i battered her''

queen abi is now my new fave.

<3 that line did it for me too.

Posted by: T Boy 20th February 2015, 04:12 PM

I don't think the killer changed during the story. More that Jane and Cindy were the initial ideas but they settled on bobby before beginning the storyline.

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 04:26 PM

Oh yeah that does make sense laugh.gif

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 04:43 PM

Harry Reid (Ben Mitchell) sort of got his predicition right, everyone else was wrong though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastenders/entries/c834f5f6-84fb-41aa-bd0a-dadc2bcd9095

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 04:46 PM

I'm interested to see who Maddy Hill thought it was. She refused to predict at the NTAs interviews because she was convinced she was right and didn't want to spoil it for viewers.

Posted by: MC Delroy 20th February 2015, 05:02 PM

William Hill have odds for who will be killed next and Phil Mitchell is the favourite. As if Phil will be killed laugh.gif

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/g/245573/Who-Will-Be-Killed-Next%3f.html

Posted by: CraigT 20th February 2015, 05:44 PM

Im slowly coming around to this actually.

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 20th February 2015, 05:49 PM

QUOTE(CraigT @ Feb 20 2015, 05:44 PM) *
Im slowly coming around to this actually.

I am as well to be fair. It has a lot more implications for the events AFTER and there are so much more potentials for storylines rather than if an adult killed her as they would no doubt have to go to jail. I guess the reason why it was so annoying was because Bobbys always been a very, very minor character but I suppose its a good way of starting to introduce him as an important character now he is growing up.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 06:19 PM

I'm reserving my full judgement until I've seen the aftermath episode tonight. The killer itself isn't what's important - it's the impact on those around Bobby, the build-up and the aftermath. The build-up was amazing, so I've no doubt the aftermath will also be amazing.

Posted by: CraigT 20th February 2015, 06:24 PM

What time is this on tonight?

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 06:29 PM

I'm hoping last night's reveal won't put people off watching tonight. A lot of people have said they're not going to continue watching but whether that was just heat of the moment comments or whether they were people who watched the show regularly, I'm not sure.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 06:31 PM

QUOTE(CraigT @ Feb 20 2015, 06:24 PM) *
What time is this on tonight?


It's not like the topic subtitle tells you wink.gif

Posted by: It's Lindsey 20th February 2015, 06:36 PM

I thought Jane was Lucy's killer pretty early on in the story line, it only occurred to me a couple of weeks ago that the only reason she would kill Lucy is to protect her child, but then the thought of Bobby being the murderer crossed my mind and of course Jane would cover it up for him since he is her son so I wasn't all that surprised by the reveal.

I really hope they do a good job of the aftermath though, and don't turn Bobby Beale into another Ben Mitchell, knowing EastEnders Jane will tell Ian the truth and Jane will either leave with Bobby or Bobby will be shipped off to live with some distant relative or friend abroad so nobody ever finds out the truth and then in so many years time Bobby will return to Walford (played by a new actor) either to be close to Lucy again and to unburden himself of the guilt he feels for killing her - or he will come back a villain, the latter is probably the most likely given EastEnders history rolleyes.gif

Posted by: CraigT 20th February 2015, 06:36 PM

LOL pls excuse my blindness/stupidity.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 06:42 PM

QUOTE(It @ Feb 20 2015, 06:36 PM) *
I thought Jane was Lucy's killer pretty early on in the story line, it only occurred to me a couple of weeks ago that the only reason she would kill Lucy is to protect her child, but then the thought of Bobby being the murderer crossed my mind and of course Jane would cover it up for him since he is her son so I wasn't all that surprised by the reveal.

I really hope they do a good job of the aftermath though, and don't turn Bobby Beale into another Ben Mitchell, knowing EastEnders Jane will tell Ian the truth and Jane will either leave with Bobby or Bobby will be shipped off to live with some distant relative or friend abroad so nobody ever finds out the truth and then in so many years time Bobby will return to Walford (played by a new actor) either to be close to Lucy again and to unburden himself of the guilt he feels for killing her - or he will come back a villain, the latter is probably the most likely given EastEnders history rolleyes.gif


I don't think Bobby even realises that he's responsible for her death. It's a shame we didn't see what happened after Jane came round. I imagine she ushered Bobby upstairs and Max helped her dump Lucy's body. In which case, Bobby has no reason to believe he killed her. So that will certainly be interesting to see how Ian's attitude towards Bobby and changes and whether he'll become aware of what he did.

Posted by: gooddelta 20th February 2015, 08:36 PM

WHAT is this ending? The promo for Guetta/Emeli *.*

Brilliant for a live episode, a couple of random camera pans and sound effects but very good/emotional overall.

Posted by: Calum Hood 20th February 2015, 08:36 PM

THAT ENDING OMG

DAMN:


Posted by: Robot 20th February 2015, 08:37 PM

Well... I'm crying my eyes out.

Posted by: HausofFrasier 20th February 2015, 08:37 PM

SHE'S EVERYWHERE!!11

Won't deny i wasn't teary at the end of that.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 20th February 2015, 08:37 PM

Amazing episode wub.gif
I was in tears when Cindy read out that letter

Posted by: Calum Hood 20th February 2015, 08:38 PM

Those scenes with the Beales at the end were incredibly heartbreaking. cry.gif

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 08:38 PM

Aw that was a brilliant end to a brilliant week! wub.gif That promo for David/Emeli! *.* And not one mistake from the cast I don't think! Just a couple of minor camera issues.

Posted by: T Boy 20th February 2015, 08:39 PM

The Acting from the Beale family was amazing there. Peter is such a crap sibling though. Never liked this Peter anyway, can't wait for him to leave. Half hope the rest if the Beales stitch him up for the murder. Bobby>>>>>>>>>>>>>Peter

Posted by: Mart!n 20th February 2015, 08:40 PM

Love the ending, quite fitting really to 30 years of Eastenders

As for the episode it was a bit of a tear jerker had me in tears most of the time. The child actor Eliot just pull it off. Well done to the Beales.

Posted by: It's Lindsey 20th February 2015, 08:40 PM

Well played EastEnders, well played happy.gif

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 08:40 PM

That episode was perfect. We even got Julia's theme! wub.gif

Posted by: Jade 20th February 2015, 08:40 PM

That was an incredible episode! I admit I got very teary when Cindy read out the letter and Ian's reaction to it. The acting was so brilliant I forgot it was live at times! The Guetta/Sande song coming out of nowhere made me jump though. laugh.gif

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 08:41 PM

CINDY wub.gif Mimi Keene is a fabulous actress, I really hope they give her a lot to do

Fabulous episode, I'm glad it was really simple. Laurie Brett was my highlight though. The only eh thing was the random firework ending laugh.gif

Posted by: Chez Wombat 20th February 2015, 08:41 PM

That was really great, no line fluffing or anything and phenomenal performance from all of the Beales. Lovely closing scenes as well (random choice of song though, could've picked something a bit more...fitting)

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 08:42 PM

I can't believe that the Beales manage to act the whole episode without slipping up on their lines considering they filled up the majority of the episode. I loved Julia's theme into the fireworks montage and I'm quite happy with the conclusion of the storyline. I imagine Peter will leave because he can't deal knowing the truth about Bobby killing Lucy.

Posted by: Calum Hood 20th February 2015, 08:43 PM

I think the song complimented the message of the episode perfectly really, they've probably interpreted it as what Jane did for her love for Bobby. kink.gif

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Feb 20 2015, 08:41 PM) *
That was really great, no line fluffing or anything and phenomenal performance from all of the Beales. Lovely closing scenes as well (random choice of song though, could've picked something a bit more...fitting)


Really? I thought the song fitted with the theme of the episode? It was about Jane explaining 'what she did for love'. wink.gif

EDIT: Snap Calum! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 20th February 2015, 08:53 PM

Its nice to see Hetty again, I do miss her from the series, it seems so strange watching EE without Lucy as I have seen her growing up throughout the series.

Posted by: Rabbit Froot 20th February 2015, 08:56 PM

An absolutely fantastic episode!

Beautifully played by all of the Beale family, they should be extremely proud of themselves, and the rest of the cast as well throughout the week. It's been amazing throughout and might have hooked me back into it! ohmy.gif

I did think Peter Beale's reaction was a bit strange when he was saying 'I'm going to get Bobby. I'm going to kill him', yes Lucy was his twin and he would be angry but Bobby is his 10 year old brother! I suppose it was to make way for his departure though.

Cindy reading the letter was a beautiful moment, so upsetting to hear Lucy's last feelings sad.gif

I did like the fireworks too, it allowed for a celebration of the show with all the characters. Mick and Ian standing together showed the old and the new.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 08:57 PM

OMG Tameka Empson doing Mastermind! rotf.gif

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 08:59 PM

QUOTE(April @ Feb 20 2015, 08:57 PM) *
OMG Tameka Empson doing Mastermind! rotf.gif

"That's what I meant". laugh.gif

Posted by: gooddelta 20th February 2015, 09:01 PM

Laurie Brett still putting on her London accent even though she's not acting anymore! *.*

Posted by: T Boy 20th February 2015, 09:06 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 20 2015, 08:59 PM) *
"That's what I meant". laugh.gif


"I don't do dogs!'

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 09:34 PM

"I didn't even know she had a mum" in that preview!!

omfg Abi kills me like every line nowadays laugh.gif

Posted by: liamk97 20th February 2015, 09:35 PM

Omg that preview! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Calum Hood 20th February 2015, 09:35 PM

Surely Dean can't actually be dead? ohmy.gif

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 09:37 PM

Dean's actually dead? ohmy.gif

And Abi rotf.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 20th February 2015, 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 20 2015, 09:34 PM) *
"I didn't even know she had a mum" in that preview!!


Sharon was adopted by Angie and Den, ask your mum wink.gif

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 20 2015, 09:37 PM) *
Sharon was adopted by Angie and Den, ask your mum wink.gif

I know that, it's just how she said it, as if Sharon fell out of the sky one day and was found by Angie and Den rotf.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 20th February 2015, 09:40 PM

That preview ohmy.gif
Loved that hour of Eastenders backstage wub.gif

Gosh tonight was so amazing, especially when Lucy's letter was read wub.gif

Posted by: Ryan. 20th February 2015, 09:41 PM

Fantastically emotional episode, I think most of the people who were underwhelmed at yesterday's ending will have changed their minds seeing the effect it has and will had on the rest of the family. The 'What I Did For Love' ending did make me jump but it was nice to see the whole cast come together for the ending of such a landmark episode!

Posted by: Ryan. 20th February 2015, 09:43 PM

Oh, and Mimi was sensational tonight especially with the pressure of reading that letter. She delivered it perfectly, incredible for a 16 year old. I really think she will became one of the stars of the show in a few years, become the new 'Stacey' so to speak in terms of her popularity.

Posted by: Liаm 20th February 2015, 09:45 PM

I really hope she is, such an underrated actresses who's had so little to do since Beth was born so I hope she has a prominent role in dealing with the aftermath and rises in the ranks of the soap. Like I said, she was fabulous tonight (as was everyone really) - her reading the letter was my highlight along with Laurie's acting while Jane was taking the blame.

Posted by: gooddelta 20th February 2015, 09:53 PM

For some reason I doubt Dean's dead. 'A body believed to be Dean's was found in a burnt out car', perhaps somebody just put two and two together after he was reported missing or something, or maybe there's a cover up going on.

Posted by: Mart!n 20th February 2015, 09:57 PM

QUOTE(gooddelta @ Feb 20 2015, 09:53 PM) *
For some reason I doubt Dean's dead. 'A body believed to be Dean's was found in a burnt out car', perhaps somebody just put two and two together after he was reported missing or something, or maybe there's a cover up going on.


Bobby did it laugh.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 20th February 2015, 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Ryan. @ Feb 20 2015, 09:43 PM) *
Oh, and Mimi was sensational tonight especially with the pressure of reading that letter. She delivered it perfectly, incredible for a 16 year old. I really think she will became one of the stars of the show in a few years, become the new 'Stacey' so to speak in terms of her popularity.

Hope so, I have always really liked her and tonight she shined so so well wub.gif

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 20 2015, 09:57 PM) *
Bobby did it laugh.gif

This made me laugh so much laugh.gif w00t.gif

Really thinking back on Tonight's episode, it is probably already in my favourite 5 ever episodes, just so so amazing wub.gif

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 20th February 2015, 10:07 PM

Amazing live episode tonight, The acting was brilliant. Abi has really suprised me during these live episode's, Cindy was amazing tonight too! They all was though.

Posted by: jase. 20th February 2015, 10:08 PM

When Mimi started to read the letter, Adam's crying...oh my GOD that was hard to watch. cry.gif What an absolutely incredible week, especially tonight.

Posted by: April 20th February 2015, 10:13 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 20 2015, 09:45 PM) *
I really hope she is, such an underrated actresses who's had so little to do since Beth was born so I hope she has a prominent role in dealing with the aftermath and rises in the ranks of the soap. Like I said, she was fabulous tonight (as was everyone really) - her reading the letter was my highlight along with Laurie's acting while Jane was taking the blame.


I like the relationship between Cindy and Bobby which appears to have developed, hopefully that will be explored more in the aftermath.

Posted by: Aphrodite 21st February 2015, 12:24 AM

What a week, sad its over as the build up and excitement all week has been great and i have enjoyed it all so much.

Posted by: Jayanthy 21st February 2015, 12:56 AM

When was the preview shown, I missed it. sad.gif Was it during Backstage Live or an advert after it?

Posted by: JosephStyles 21st February 2015, 12:58 AM

At the very end of Backstage Live!

Posted by: Jay ジ 21st February 2015, 01:02 AM

Thanks Joseph, just seen it! *.*

What an incredible week for EastEnders, everyone involved should be very proud. Highly entertaining. wub.gif

Posted by: Umi 21st February 2015, 01:14 AM



The letter at the end, oh my goodness. Felt so terrible for everyone involved, though I also feel terrible that Peter missed that part. Who knows if we'll even see him again...

Hate Bobby though.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 21st February 2015, 08:11 AM

QUOTE(Umi @ Feb 21 2015, 01:14 AM) *

Who knows if we'll even see him again...

If you're talking about Peter then We will, he was in the preview and he also said on backstage live it was his last day but not Peter's last day on screen

Posted by: James1987 21st February 2015, 11:28 PM

QUOTE(jase. @ Feb 20 2015, 10:08 PM) *
When Mimi started to read the letter, Adam's crying...oh my GOD that was hard to watch. cry.gif What an absolutely incredible week, especially tonight.


I know, it nearly set me off!!

An amazing end to a phenomenal week of TV, though I don't know how they're going top this! I thought the 25th anniversary week was great but this was on another scale. Dominic can never leave now laugh.gif

Posted by: Suedehead2 22nd February 2015, 02:25 AM

I'm watching part of the omnibus atm. I haven't been a regular viewer for many years.

When they kicked the door down and found Nick Cotton dead, that brought things full circle to the first episode. Nick, if I remember rightly, killed Reg Cox who was found at the start of episode 1.

I also saw some of Friday's live episode, including the Julia / Tony love heart as a tribute to the two people who created the programme.

Posted by: CraigT 22nd February 2015, 12:02 PM

Legit an abi stan now.

Posted by: T Boy 22nd February 2015, 12:08 PM

With all the Cotton drama, they now need to bring Mrs Doyle back permanently.

Posted by: CraigT 22nd February 2015, 12:16 PM

With Dot in jail She'll have to make all the tea.

Posted by: liamk97 23rd February 2015, 08:33 PM

The episode after something really dramatic is always quite boring, ain't it?

Posted by: Mart!n 23rd February 2015, 08:35 PM

It felt one of those episodes, the calm before a storm, with a lot of things happening all in one episode.

Posted by: HausofFrasier 23rd February 2015, 08:40 PM

That was filmed long before the actors knew the revelation right? They didn't specify Bobby as the killer once so i wonder how much longer this will go on for.

Posted by: dandystar 23rd February 2015, 08:42 PM

The highlight was definitely Jane's overnight hair cut.

Posted by: Cameron 23rd February 2015, 08:43 PM

QUOTE(dandystar @ Feb 23 2015, 08:42 PM) *
The highlight was definitely Jane's overnight hair cut.


And Lauren randomly appearing again laugh.gif

Posted by: liamk97 23rd February 2015, 08:46 PM

I'm guessing the honeymoon will mean by the time they get back, things will have caught up and they'll start acknowledging Bobby was the killer.

QUOTE(dandystar @ Feb 23 2015, 08:42 PM) *
The highlight was definitely Jane's overnight hair cut.

She wore a hair piece for the wedding. tongue.gif

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 23rd February 2015, 08:54 PM

Abi was great again tonight heart.gif

Posted by: jark 23rd February 2015, 08:58 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 23 2015, 08:46 PM) *
I'm guessing the honeymoon will mean by the time they get back, things will have caught up and they'll start acknowledging Bobby was the killer.
She wore a hair piece for the wedding. tongue.gif

Well the episodes filmed now won't be shown until May so I don't think they're suddenly gonna start referencing it explicitly, but they need to? It's obvious what they mean and realistically they wouldn't want to keep mentioning Bobby being a murderer.

Posted by: liamk97 23rd February 2015, 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Ultraviolence1989 @ Feb 23 2015, 08:54 PM) *
Abi was great again tonight heart.gif

I did like the bit when she stormed out the house, ranting at her dad and then telling Peter that Lauren was in the iamspamspamamiin one breath.

Posted by: liamk97 23rd February 2015, 09:09 PM

QUOTE(jark @ Feb 23 2015, 08:58 PM) *
Well the episodes filmed now won't be shown until May so I don't think they're suddenly gonna start referencing it explicitly, but they need to? It's obvious what they mean and realistically they wouldn't want to keep mentioning Bobby being a murderer.

I would have thought they may film some scenes and have them out a little earlier than they normally would do just to keep the storyline going. I suppose they can keep it going without explicitly mentioning Bobby but I'd have thought Ian and Jane would want to talk in private about it with it being such a hard thing to keep quiet about and whatnot, especially since it's been revealed someone will be wrongly imprisoned for Lucy's murder soon (which I guess could start from May and beyond, though).

Posted by: April 23rd February 2015, 09:47 PM

The scene between Abi and Ian/Jane near the start was very odd.

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 23 2015, 08:33 PM) *
The episode after something really dramatic is always quite boring, ain't it?


It was very much a comedown, but that's to be expected after such a big week!

Posted by: MC Delroy 24th February 2015, 03:05 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 23 2015, 08:33 PM) *
The episode after something really dramatic is always quite boring, ain't it?

tbh I don't think there's ever been such a high as last week when it comes to EastEnders. The comedown & withdrawal was always going to be like this, especially as it looks like the Lucy storyline is being put to bed for now and considering it's 11 year old Bobby who is the culprit the full truth probably wont come out until several years later when he is a man.

Which means that Bobby has the potential to become a legendary character and who knows maybe even a serial killer........

Posted by: JosephStyles 24th February 2015, 03:13 PM

I can't see Bobby becoming a serial killer considering he doesn't even know he's a murderer at the moment laugh.gif he'll no doubt find out eventually but I doubt they'd turn him into that.

Posted by: CraigT 24th February 2015, 04:58 PM

Kush needs to do every scene with his top off.

Posted by: Cameron 24th February 2015, 07:45 PM

I know this will sound stupid, but why has Mick's character turned into Danny Dyer?

Posted by: Liаm 24th February 2015, 07:55 PM

DYINF at psycho bunny boiler Abi rotf.gif

Posted by: April 24th February 2015, 08:02 PM

Julia's theme! heart.gif

But OMG Abi was on fire today with her comments.

Posted by: lewistgreen 24th February 2015, 08:04 PM

Aww so glad Peter and Lauren left together and got Julia's Theme wub.gif

Posted by: Liаm 24th February 2015, 08:07 PM

I love how soap characters can up and move to the other side of the world at a moment's notice with barely move than one bag/case laugh.gif

Posted by: T Boy 24th February 2015, 09:34 PM

Won't miss this Peter at all.

Abi STEALING every episode right now.

Posted by: CraigT 24th February 2015, 09:46 PM

I will miss peter and his extremely tight shirts.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 25th February 2015, 12:54 AM

Ben Hardy (Peter) has been cast in the new X-men movie ohmy.gif

Posted by: April 25th February 2015, 11:23 AM

Over 20 million people watched some of EastEnders last week (35% of the UK population):

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a631415/eastenders-30th-anniversary-week-had-reach-of-20-million-viewers.html#~p5iJyaOYfaZWHR

Posted by: liamk97 25th February 2015, 05:11 PM

I don't really get how that's been worked out. Is that 20 million different individuals? And do they really mean people or 20 million television sets had EE on? I mean the all the average views added up equals just over 49 million.

Something I do understand and is also impressive is that there were 11.5m requests on iPlayer last week for EE related programmes (presumably including the first episode, Good Friday episode and the Cliffhanger countdown then) with the flashback episode getting 1m requests in 24 hours - a feat achieved by three other programmes. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a631415/eastenders-30th-anniversary-week-had-reach-of-20-million-viewers.html#~p5k6XeClK2iXZM

Posted by: Cameron 27th February 2015, 10:45 AM

I was thinking last night. What was the point in Ryan returning for like 2 episodes to try and see Lilly? He kind of appeared then vanished again laugh.gif

Posted by: April 27th February 2015, 11:01 AM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Feb 27 2015, 10:45 AM) *
I was thinking last night. What was the point in Ryan returning for like 2 episodes to try and see Lilly? He kind of appeared then vanished again laugh.gif


He returned for one scene and he didn't even speak! kink.gif

Posted by: MC Delroy 27th February 2015, 02:40 PM

EastEnders has gone back to being boring again sad.gif

Posted by: Aphrodite 27th February 2015, 04:29 PM

After an anniversary week all the soaps are boring for a week or three!!! after, it will improve very shortly i am sure as we have some nice storylines bubbling away that have to shine yet. Id love episodes like anniversary all year round but thats impossible to happen and a lot to ask for. We had almost 2 years of many boring episodes so a week or two wont hurt us and hte episodes are still ok that are been transmitted.

Posted by: JosephStyles 27th February 2015, 04:46 PM

I'm not finding EastEnders even slightly boring right now! Not quite as gripping as anniversary week but I expected that. It's on top form right now heart.gif

Posted by: liamk97 27th February 2015, 05:05 PM

I get that this week wouldn't be as exciting as anniversary week and I think everyone knows that. But it doesn't take away from the fact that it has been rather boring, even if you ignore last week. Particularly so for Monday and Tuesday, at least Thursday started to show new storylines.

Posted by: Cameron 27th February 2015, 08:22 PM

'What Are You Doing?'

'BOLOGNESE! I Just Told You *sigh*'

Oh Abi laugh.gif

Posted by: liamk97 27th February 2015, 08:32 PM

Careful, Kris, Shazza will be coming on to you next!

I was expecting that box to be full of money which would just so happen to pay for a good lawyer for Dot.

Posted by: April 27th February 2015, 11:08 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 27 2015, 08:32 PM) *
Careful, Kris, Shazza will be coming on to you next!

I was expecting that box to be full of money which would just so happen to pay for a good lawyer for Dot.


I thought it would be money as well, but maybe she'll find her birth dad and he'll pay for Dot. biggrin.gif

It was mentioned a while back that Andrew Sachs would be appearing in EastEnders, so maybe he'll be playing Sharon's dad?

Posted by: Aphrodite 27th February 2015, 11:22 PM

I thought Peter and Laurens exit was really sweet and they had great on screen chemistry and Julias theme was nicely used for their departure. I love Linda's mother id love her to join full time.

Posted by: liamk97 27th February 2015, 11:32 PM

Is there a particular reason that Elaine seems to sing in every episode she's in? tongue.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles 27th February 2015, 11:43 PM

I really want Elaine to join full time, one of the best characters in the show heart.gif

Posted by: liamk97 28th February 2015, 04:34 PM

The Bobby and Peter scene on Tuesday when Bobby asks if he killed Lucy was filmed last week. The omnibus episode showed the original scene where no reference to Lucy's murder is given: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a632215/eastenders-omnibus-airs-different-bobby-and-peter-beale-scene.html#~p5Bx7DE4jXq914

Posted by: T Boy 28th February 2015, 09:18 PM

In a quiet period, Abi really is stealing the show. Intentionally or not, she's just hilarious.

Posted by: April 28th February 2015, 10:47 PM

EastEnders is currently researching into having a transgender storyline soon played by a transgender actor.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a632251/eastenders-to-have-transgender-storyline-says-executive-producer.html

Posted by: Liаm 1st March 2015, 02:08 AM

Ellen Thomas (Grace Olubunmi, Mercy's grandmother in the show previously and also the principal in the epic BBC3 comedy Coming Of Age) has joined the show as a new matriach who has "strong ties" to the show.

Ada Fox maybe? ohmy.gif

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