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  Jan 9 2021, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(jsweetxe @ Jan 9 2021, 03:11 PM)  It's not. Burn was written by Ryan Tedder his OneRepublic bandmate, then Ellie recorded her vocal- then it was left for a while. So I'm guessing Leona's team got ahold of it in that time, but then didn't use it, so then Greg Kurstin and Ellie got ahold of it again and used it. That's different to Max Martin and Co. writing a song intended for Demi Lovato and then getting Ellie on it. AAAAAND like I said, there's a myriad of different things that could play a part in song credits. A singer SHOULD get credit if they change anything, doesn't mean they always do, Ellie wasn't that big back then, she probably didn't have a deal that was strong enough to get her credit on such a massive song. Who knows. Again speculation, but based upon the huge success of Burn + the album, said deal was probably changed for Delirium, so that she was the main writer and received credit regardless. My main issue with this thread was the Beyoncé slander like I said, and my main point was to just let you guys know that it isn't so black and white when it comes to writing, vocals and being credited. Please back up your claims with sources and receipts. |
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Jan 10 2021, 08:00 AM
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how do you know Beyonce has something to do with her songs? love how people have direct access to Beyonce's brain
 I think it's pretty clear that her songs are other people's songs or from songwriters camps especially for hers basically she buys and has a deal that her name2 has to be added no matter what |
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Jan 10 2021, 11:50 AM
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Burn was given to and recorded by Leona before Ellie got her hands on it and the recording sounds exactly the same so the argument about vocal arrangement is so not true at all. Pretty much every artist uses their own vocal arrangement and style look at Britney with her (ugh ugh ughs) in her songs very unique to her but she doesn’t have writing credits.
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Jan 14 2021, 12:39 PM
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I’m just documenting the ways that jsweetxe believes that song credits are and aren’t earned and how Burn and LMLYD compares:
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Jan 20 2021, 11:47 AM
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I'll never get over 'lights' being her biggest hit in the USA and not making a dent in the UK.
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Jan 21 2021, 05:51 PM
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Seems unrelated but okay.
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Feb 25 2021, 10:21 PM
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CDM: Excluding your cover of 'Your Song', 'Burn' was your very first single to be released that wasn't a song that was specifically written for you originally. What was it about the song that made you really want it to be a single for you?
ELLIE: I just loved it. He [Ryan Tedder] sent me a bunch of stuff and then he sent me this song, and as you know I never usually do songs that aren't mine, but I knew that I could work with that song, I knew that it was special. I don't know whether it's instinctive or whatever, but that song I just connected with even though I hadn't initially written it. I changed it up and sang it and it just became my song! It was sweet. |
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