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JosephBoone
post 18th February 2019, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(TheGrinch @ Feb 18 2019, 08:28 PM) *
Well done to Avril.

Eek at Katy Perry and Zedd not coming for a top 30 debut, truly disastrous start.

Is it though? Zedd's last two singles didn't debut top 40 (and one of them didn't even peak there), and Katy's last two proper singles both debuted at #40...
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post 18th February 2019, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(TheGrinch @ Feb 18 2019, 08:28 PM) *
Well done to Avril.

Eek at Katy Perry and Zedd not coming for a top 30 debut, truly disastrous start.

As long as Zedd scrapes into the top 40, I’m happy
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post 18th February 2019, 08:45 PM
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I’m hoping that 7 Rings takes #1 this week!

Great to see Avril at #5 too, that was unexpected.
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post 18th February 2019, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Feb 18 2019, 05:14 PM) *
#17!

It's a pity it's on ACR, it would be #9 otherwise.

Always Remember Us This Way back at #94 too.
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post 18th February 2019, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(JosephAvery @ Feb 18 2019, 08:37 PM) *
Is it though? Zedd's last two singles didn't debut top 40 (and one of them didn't even peak there), and Katy's last two proper singles both debuted at #40...


I’m guessing the video release is the reason why it’s actually this high! This really needs to be a hit for Katy because she should be a big enough act to debut top 20.
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post 18th February 2019, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Feb 18 2019, 07:14 PM) *
#17!

It's a pity it's on ACR, it would be #9 otherwise.


how is the ACR working? can i see somewhere the calculations?
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post 18th February 2019, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(TheGrinch @ Feb 18 2019, 08:51 PM) *
I’m guessing the video release is the reason why it’s actually this high! This really needs to be a hit for Katy because she should be a big enough act to debut top 20.

Feels didn't debut top 20 and that peaked at #1. What's your point?
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post 18th February 2019, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(Charis @ Feb 18 2019, 08:57 PM) *
how is the ACR working? can i see somewhere the calculations?


Songs on ACR just have their streaming contribution halved. Normally, 100 premium streams or 600 free streams equal 1 sale unit. On ACR it's 200 or 1,200 respectively.
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post 18th February 2019, 09:30 PM
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Bon Appetit only debuted at #40 despite instant A list on Radio 1, big capital support and an automatically high place on Hot Hits. 365 has none of those things and is coming to outpeak it. Swish Swish also debuted at 40.

Zedd’s last single took 4 weeks to go top 40, too and ended up being massive.
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post 18th February 2019, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(365 @ Feb 18 2019, 10:30 PM) *
Bon Appetit only debuted at #40 despite instant A list on Radio 1, big capital support and an automatically high place on Hot Hits. 365 has none of those things and is coming to outpeak it. Swish Swish also debuted at 40.

Zedd’s last single took 4 weeks to go top 40, too and ended up being massive.


Are you serious right now? Comparing Katy's FLOP singles to a new single that was released with a video + with a lot of support on all streaming services? Not to mention this is Katy's comeback as she hasn't had a new single out in a while. Yes, Zedd is the main artist but this single has Katy Perry all over it. Sounds like something from her previous album and also the video couldn't be more Katy Perry.

The fact is - they are flopping with this single, and you simply cannot spin it around making it seem they are doing okay. Not debuting in the top 30 is horrendous.
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post 18th February 2019, 10:01 PM
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Let's at least wait a month before calling '365' a flop. Most songs now climb to their peak, there's still a good chance this will be a reasonably big top 10 hit.
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post 18th February 2019, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Feb 18 2019, 10:01 PM) *
Let's at least wait a month before calling '365' a flop. Most songs now climb to their peak, there's still a good chance this will be a reasonably big top 10 hit.


Agreed; you can't really write off a song after less than a week.

I mean the majority of songs take a while to take off and grow to their peak
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post 18th February 2019, 10:25 PM
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I think it’s fairly safe to say that Katy Perry’s name isn’t what it once was and she can’t sell singles off of just her name the way she used to be able to sadly. To have a hit she will have to do what most other artists have to do and wait for airplay to build up and for the song to be moved up high on the playlists.
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post 18th February 2019, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(BigMixer @ Feb 18 2019, 09:57 PM) *
Are you serious right now? Comparing Katy's FLOP singles to a new single that was released with a video + with a lot of support on all streaming services? Not to mention this is Katy's comeback as she hasn't had a new single out in a while. Yes, Zedd is the main artist but this single has Katy Perry all over it. Sounds like something from her previous album and also the video couldn't be more Katy Perry.

The fact is - they are flopping with this single, and you simply cannot spin it around making it seem they are doing okay. Not debuting in the top 30 is horrendous.

This is a little dramatic. I wouldn't even consider it an underperformance so far. Off the back of 'Prism' perhaps, but 'Witness' was a pretty disastrous era and the general public were never going to be that receptive to new Katy Perry music. I'm also struggling to see why it shouldn't be compared to 'Bon Appetit'? It too was a new single that received instant radio/streaming support.


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post 19th February 2019, 08:14 AM
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So that charity track thing didn't even scrape top 100 in the mids oops
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post 19th February 2019, 12:31 PM
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Officials chart got back to me about Tom Walker

The charity record with the artist credit “Red Hot Chilli Pipers ft Tom Walker” isl Tom Walker singing a Tom Walker song, but with bagpipes, so this is correctly combined with the original release and appears in the chart as Leave A Light On by Tom Walker
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post 19th February 2019, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(Djcheekymagpie @ Feb 19 2019, 12:31 PM) *
Officials chart got back to me about Tom Walker

The charity record with the artist credit “Red Hot Chilli Pipers ft Tom Walker” isl Tom Walker singing a Tom Walker song, but with bagpipes, so this is correctly combined with the original release and appears in the chart as Leave A Light On by Tom Walker

At least now, iTunes can’t help a song back to SCR
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post 19th February 2019, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Djcheekymagpie @ Feb 19 2019, 12:31 PM) *
Officials chart got back to me about Tom Walker

The charity record with the artist credit “Red Hot Chilli Pipers ft Tom Walker” isl Tom Walker singing a Tom Walker song, but with bagpipes, so this is correctly combined with the original release and appears in the chart as Leave A Light On by Tom Walker


Odd to combine them when Tom Walker is only credited as a featured artist though, but hey ho!
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post 19th February 2019, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(365 @ Feb 18 2019, 10:25 PM) *
I think it’s fairly safe to say that Katy Perry’s name isn’t what it once was and she can’t sell singles off of just her name the way she used to be able to sadly. To have a hit she will have to do what most other artists have to do and wait for airplay to build up and for the song to be moved up high on the playlists.


I would agree. I think she will struggle now. The momentum to her career seems to have been lost since witness.
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post 19th February 2019, 09:44 PM
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Katy's days of big hits and big album sales have past but she could still achieve moderate success.
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