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2nd September 2021, 10:57 AM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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QUOTE A ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy in Texas came into effect on Wednesday after the US Supreme Court voted down an emergency request to block it.
The court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority including three justices nominated by former president Donald Trump, voted five to four against blocking the country’s most radical abortion law. The legislation amounts to a near-total ban on abortions and gives any private citizen the ability to sue a provider who breaks it, prompting fears that activists will be able to force most Texas clinics to close. It bans terminations once fetal cardiac activity is detectable, which occurs at about six weeks’ gestation and before most women know they are pregnant. It allows a medical exemption but has no provision for victims of rape or incest. Republicans around the US have been pushing ever more restrictive abortion laws in an attempt to overturn the 1973 Roe v Wade decision that guarantees women’s right to an abortion. Texas’ heartbeat bill is the first that has not been slapped down immediately by the courts, and a dissenting opinion to the Supreme Court's decision suggests the Roe v Wade safeguard may now be crumbling. Calling her colleagues' decision “stunning”, judge Sonia Sotomayor wrote: “Presented with an application to enjoin a flagrantly unconstitutional law engineered to prohibit women from exercising their constitutional rights and evade judicial scrutiny, a majority of justices have opted to bury their heads in the sand. “Last night, the court silently acquiesced in a state’s enactment of a law that flouts nearly 50 years of federal precedents.” Texas’ abortion ban differs from those promoted by other states in that it takes the pressure of enforcement off government, by allowing anyone in the US to sue an abortion provider or anyone who “aids and abets” someone seeking a termination. Victorious litigiants are eligible for a $10,000 (£7,300) damages payout in civil court. Aiding and abetting could include driving a patient to an appointment, helping pay for the abortion procedure or providing information on how to access it. Removing government from the process makes legal challenges to the law more difficult. Supreme court justice Elena Kagan, who joined judges Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer in dissent, called the legislation “patently unconstitutional”. Chief justice John Roberts also went agains the majority decision. In his dissenting opinion he took pains to stress that although the court had denied the emergency appeal, its decision did not amount to a ruling that Texas’ ban was constitutional. Abortion providers say the law “immediately and catastrophically reduces abortion access in Texas” and that they have already begun turning patients away for fear of “bounty hunters”. Dr Ghazaleh Moayedi, an abortion provider, told The Guardian: “We are all going to comply with the law even though it is unethical, inhumane and unjust. “It threatens my livelihood and I fully expect to be sued. But my biggest fear is making sure the most vulnerable in my community, the black and Latinx patients I see who are already most at risk from logistical and financial barriers, get the care they need.” The Guttmacher Institute, a pro-choice think-tank, claimed women's one-way drive to their nearest clinic would increase from 12 miles to 248 under the new rules, meaning money and work commitments will complicate their cases even more than they currently do. Anti-abortion activists have welcomed the ban. Chelsey Youman, the legislative director of Human Coalition Action Texas, said it would “protect the most vulnerable among us, preborn children”. The White House has now asked congress to pass a nationwide law guaranteeing access to terminations. Joe Biden’s press secretary, Jen Psaki, said on Wednesday that codifying Roe v Wade was within representatives’ power and that the president would keep pushing them to do so. |
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2nd September 2021, 10:58 AM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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I don't think I've ever felt so much negative emotion from a single thing in my life before. It's scary knowing that now Texas has done this, more will follow.
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2nd September 2021, 11:49 AM
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Buffy/Charmed
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This is absolutely disgusting, and exactly why the uselessly weak neoliberals, obsessed with funding, should be packing the court snd reversing the generational damage that Trump has caused.
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2nd September 2021, 03:53 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Seriously how is this happening in 2021? Before most women even know they are pregnant how flipping ridiculous. Not even protecting victims of rape? I just don't get people at all.
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2nd September 2021, 07:28 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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The right are more emboldened and will keep on with this backwards socially conservative agenda for as long as the centre keeps being ultra cautious or attacking the left. And this is just the start....
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2nd September 2021, 07:56 PM
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Buffy/Charmed
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With neolibetals, ir is all a performance. They are beholden to the same elite plutocrats as the rich. They get more funding the more the right brings in laws like this, or gets more justices. They secretly love it. They would prefer to smash the left and keep theor gravy train tolling in than seriously challenge right wing demagoguery.
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2nd September 2021, 08:02 PM
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The owls are not what they seem
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Disgraceful, and scarier still the next step will be some states outlawing abortions entirely which looks much more achievable now, grim stuff.
Nothing more sickening than some people thinking they have a right to dictate what all women should do with their bodies no matter the suffering they face, especially men. |
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2nd September 2021, 08:23 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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Breaking news. Old white men are still telling women what to do with their own bodies.
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24th June 2022, 03:54 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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My heart breaks for the women in America right now.
Roe vs. Wade is overturned which eliminates the constitutional right to an abortion. |
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24th June 2022, 04:05 PM
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Buffy/Charmed
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Thanks, Trump, Hillary (fot your TEREIBLE campaign and for sabotaging Bernie, who would have beaten Trump handily) and neoliberals for saying it was sexist to suggest that RBG should retire during Obama's second term :/ Equal marriage and contraception will be next and it will take America GENERATIONS to recover from Trump's protofash regime and his activist judges.
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24th June 2022, 04:17 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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Biden really sitting there like "Who is the President!???? I would like a word with them!!!"
Useless POS. |
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24th June 2022, 04:43 PM
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The owls are not what they seem
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Expected, but still heartbreaking, and yeah, birth control and LGBT marriage will definitely be next. It shouldn't be that this happened under a Democrat-controlled America...:/
I genuinely can't see a way out of this Conservative shift for years to come especially with the Supreme Court the way it is, even with a genuinely progressive presidential candidate (which they'll never go for), they seem utterly marred by this terrible system. There's a great independent film I saw a few years back called Never, Rarely, Sometimes, Always, which deals with a teenager having to travel miles to receive an abortion, so sad to think that will be the story for many now... |
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24th June 2022, 04:46 PM
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Break the tension
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Sickening.
Where are these "pro-life" nutcases whenever a mass shooting happens? Nowhere to be seen, that's where. |
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24th June 2022, 04:53 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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It's quite something when — over two days — the Supreme Court decides that states cannot block people from carrying guns in public but states can block abortions.
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24th June 2022, 04:54 PM
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is my brain across your walls?
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Well we knew this was coming from the leak a few weeks ago (and arguably it became very likely to happen from the moment Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away) but still shocking to see such a regressive move actually coming into reality.
This isn't anything to do with Biden to be fair, the writing was on the wall with the ideological makeup of the Supreme Court. Congress can still theoretically pass a law to protect abortion rights again but good luck with that, would need at absolute minimum the Dems to get 60 Senate seats and even that probably wouldn't be enough when there are Manchins and Sinemas amongst them. Also sorry to speak this into existence but if this can happen then gay marriage is absolutely going to be next. |
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24th June 2022, 04:56 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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Expected, but still heartbreaking, and yeah, birth control and LGBT marriage will definitely be next. Absolutely. Where does it end though? |
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24th June 2022, 05:01 PM
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Buffy/Charmed
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LGBT sex?! Does this also affect the ruling r.e "interracial" marriage? As it wasn't so long ago that that was illegal in some hard right states...
Just a reminder that Biden and the neolib Dems could have AND STILL COULD!! increase the size of the SC - and impeach Trump's fash picks as well - but they choose not to do so, as the DNC will earn big bucks from the far right getting its way. People will donate and support ANY neolib centrist Dem in order to fight back. For neoliberals and centrists, politics is just performance. That's why we ledtists hate centeists and vice-versa, as we know it's an act on their part, and they hate that we know. |
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24th June 2022, 07:47 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Given that the US insists everyone should have guns and the Justices hold position only until their own death... it seems only a matter of time until some nut connects those dots. Dark days for America when either side escalates. People have been whipped up into a frenzy.
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24th June 2022, 07:59 PM
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24th June 2022, 09:38 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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