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post Jun 26 2019, 09:34 PM
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At the end of the day, a chart position is just a number hidden away on their stats page somewhere.

As long as it's a good album, and sells well enough, that's all that really matters.

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post Jun 26 2019, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(WhoOdyssey @ Jun 26 2019, 10:34 PM) *
At the end of the day, a chart position is just a number hidden away on their stats page somewhere.

As long as it's a good album, and sells well enough, that's all that really matters.



Thing is I don't think it will sell massively, as albums in general don't sell huge amounts nowadays. I think if it goes silver like his last album then he will have done well and if it goes Gold then that is amazing. It's likely to fall down the charts after this week, so at least a #1 is a huge celebration regardless of what it continues to sell. I will be buying my copy tomorrow so that's 1 more towards the total sales laugh.gif
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post Jun 27 2019, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(sajjadali @ Jun 26 2019, 11:26 PM) *
Whoah I just started having to figure out the whole Lewis Capaldi streaming on Spotify...on UK Top 200 ONLY. So his most popular songs (the singles) I won't count as they get neutralised but the other album tracks which are IN the UK Top 200 are Bruises 159,560 and Grace 146,190

So, As an average lets assume the rest are just under these, 120,000-140,000 on average per day.
So 130,000 per song x 10 songs = 1.3 million + 260,000 for the two singles (neutralised) and you have almost 1.5 million streams per day! Even if that figure is wrong he's getting about 1 million streams a day which is believe giving him at least 1000 streaming points PER day. This is just his UK data! Globally, it'd be much more! So he gets in addition some CD sales too...say 400-800 and hence you have a situation where he beats the new release steadily through the week.

I don't think Will can even begin to compete on streaming with those figures...So he's in line to keep selling about 1.2k-1.6k a day for the remaining days and Will's best selling days he'd need to at least match that or sell just under to compete...The lead Will has is 1.6k on him at the moment. So there are TWO more days left (Wednesday and Thursday) if Will needs to sell at least 1,000 copies per day to properly stand a chance at getting that No.1, and even then it'll be a close one. I think Will will sell about 15,000. Lewis might add up to 17,000, sadly. But he's done some promoting today. Shame about those cancelled signings but if only 20 people are attending then I can see why they were cancelled...He's doing well No.2 on Amazon now (up from 3), My Love upto No.36 on iTunes, album still No.1 on iTunes, No.1/2 on Digital albums on Amazon.

Keep buying and streaming LEXICON and get WY this no.1! happy.gif


Not sure where you checked but Lewis has almost the entire album in the top 200, but yes, eventually you get to around 1K a day from Spotify streams... and we actually know the real data from the occ, which is around 14K, so 2K per day, meaning 1K from Spotify and 1K from other platforms (Apple etc)
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post Jun 27 2019, 07:28 AM
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How does Will's sales split out to CD, tape, vinyl and streaming?
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post Jun 27 2019, 08:17 AM
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Gwon Lewis reclaim number 1
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post Jun 27 2019, 03:11 PM
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If you are a @willyoung fan IMPORTANT!

****BUY and STREAM 'Lexicon' today if you want to get Will to No.1 on the UK Album Charts.

He could beovertaken by Lewis Capaldi, it's so close! You have till Midnight!
https://willyoung.lnk.to/LexiconAS
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post Jun 27 2019, 06:06 PM
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You're such a lovable, crazy loyal fan Sajj, which is nice, try and relax though. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 27 2019, 08:36 PM
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I wanted to see at what level the Will Young streaming on Spotify is, especially in comparison to Lewis Capaldi's album tracks all doing about 100k each day in the UK. So I recorded the totals for all his album songs including the singles yesterday and waited for them to update today and have calculated the difference...It'd be interesting also to see which tracks are gathering the most fan replaying...

All The Songs was 1,050,300 now 1,062,907 (Daily increase: 12,607)
My Love was 183,812 now 192,618 (Daily increase: 8,806)
Scars was 25,213 now 29,957 (Daily increase: 4,744)
Get Me Dancing was 22,953 now 27,039 (Daily increase: 4,086)
Ground Running was 49,064 now 58,174 (Daily increase: 9,110)
Dreaming Big was 21,160 now 25,066 (Daily increase: 3,906)
I Bet You Call was 19,214 now 22,694 (Daily increase: 3,480)
Forever was 21,800 now 25,716 (Daily increase: 3,916)
Freedom was 17,137 now 20,248 (Daily increase: 3,111)
Faithless Love was 16,158 now 19,086 (Daily increase: 2,928)
Say Anything was 15,559 now 18,461 (Daily increase: 2,902)
The Way We Were was 15,753 now 18,682 (Daily increase: 2,929)

The most album love seems to be for the first half then second...obviously 'Ground Running' is attracting by far the most streams but it is also on the New Music Friday playlist.

On analysis, the streaming isn't as strong as I'd hoped. The streaming just yesterday for the album would have given on estimation just 33 additional sales! 3k on average...so practically nothing!

The positive is he remains No.2 on Amazon CDs, No.1 on Amazon MP3 album purchases.
iTunes still No.1 on Albums! the £4.99 promotion was genius. yahoo.gif
The signings and a £7.99 CD promotion for the album could have helped even more!


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post Jun 27 2019, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(suggy @ Jun 27 2019, 07:06 PM) *
You're such a lovable, crazy loyal fan Sajj, which is nice, try and relax though. biggrin.gif


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I'm trying to do my bit for him, it'd be a great achievement for 'Lexicon' but if he charts at No.2 instead it wouldn't be a total disaster, he's done quite well. 85% Proof sold 20k week 1 to chart at No.1 and there were times I'd say the Number 1 status was all it had going for it! He should do I estimate 16k which isn't bad at all! cheer.gif I know realistically Capaldi will take it as per the last few weeks but I still dare to dream yahoo.gif

I wanted to try doing a streaming party for him at 10pm however I was afraid most his fans would be asleep and in bed by then... tongue.gif so instead I'm streaming on Amazon, Youtube and Spotify!

Anyone not bought a copy please do could make the difference!


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post Jun 27 2019, 08:48 PM
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I thought streaming on Thursdays didn’t really count towards the chart anyway so there’s no point now?!
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post Jun 27 2019, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(LB1108 @ Jun 27 2019, 09:48 PM) *
I thought streaming on Thursdays didn’t really count towards the chart anyway so there’s no point now?!


Eh? Why not?
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post Jun 27 2019, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(sajjadali @ Jun 27 2019, 09:36 PM) *
I wanted to see at what level the Will Young streaming on Spotify is, especially in comparison to Lewis Capaldi's album tracks all doing about 100k each day in the UK. So I recorded the totals for all his album songs including the singles yesterday and waited for them to update today and have calculated the difference...It'd be interesting also to see which tracks are gathering the most fan replaying...

All The Songs was 1,050,300 now 1,062,907 (Daily increase: 12,607)
My Love was 183,812 now 192,618 (Daily increase: 8,806)
Scars was 25,213 now 29,957 (Daily increase: 4,744)
Get Me Dancing was 22,953 now 27,039 (Daily increase: 4,086)
Ground Running was 49,064 now 58,174 (Daily increase: 9,110)
Dreaming Big was 21,160 now 25,066 (Daily increase: 3,906)
I Bet You Call was 19,214 now 22,694 (Daily increase: 3,480)
Forever was 21,800 now 25,716 (Daily increase: 3,916)
Freedom was 17,137 now 20,248 (Daily increase: 3,111)
Faithless Love was 16,158 now 19,086 (Daily increase: 2,928)
Say Anything was 15,559 now 18,461 (Daily increase: 2,902)
The Way We Were was 15,753 now 18,682 (Daily increase: 2,929)

The most album love seems to be for the first half then second...obviously 'Ground Running' is attracting by far the most streams but it is also on the New Music Friday playlist.

On analysis, the streaming isn't as strong as I'd hoped. The streaming just yesterday for the album would have given on estimation just 33 additional sales! 3k on average...so practically nothing!

The positive is he remains No.2 on Amazon CDs, No.1 on Amazon MP3 album purchases.
iTunes still No.1 on Albums! the £4.99 promotion was genius. yahoo.gif
The signings and a £7.99 CD promotion for the album could have helped even more!


omg that is some dedication. what a fan!!
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post Jun 28 2019, 06:01 AM
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QUOTE(ros @ Jun 27 2019, 11:48 PM) *
Eh? Why not?


Thursday’s streams are based on an average over the week so ‘actual’ plays are not counted.
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post Jun 28 2019, 06:02 AM
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the occ doesn't use the real Spotify data x Thursday cos they report it too late, so they use an estimate
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post Jun 28 2019, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE(___∆___ @ Jun 28 2019, 07:01 AM) *
Thursday’s streams are based on an average over the week so ‘actual’ plays are not counted.


Damn, thanks anyway. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Jun 28 2019, 07:02 AM) *
the occ doesn't use the real Spotify data x Thursday cos they report it too late, so they use an estimate


Thanks.
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post Jun 28 2019, 07:13 AM
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^those daily increases for Will's track are tiny, and they're worldwide not UK only
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post Jun 28 2019, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Jun 28 2019, 08:13 AM) *
^those daily increases for Will's track are tiny, and they're worldwide not UK only


Yes! Clearly streaming is hurting his chances of a No.1!
I'd say 80% of those could safely assumed to be UK...he isn't a worldwide artist, i'm sure there's some streams that are but not a significant portion.
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