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Martyn
post 24th July 2016, 03:22 PM
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Anyway on to my preview of Series 8.

So some spoilers about the competing robots and format of the show ahead.

So lets get some general bits out of the way first. We've lost Sgt Bash, Growler, Mr Psycho, Cassius Chrome (thank god for that shit heap) and Refbot from the House Robots team. I would have kept Growler and Sgt Bash. Refbot was useful at times too, particularly after he got the count down clock.

As for the four we've kept Shunt and Dead Metal, look basically the same as they did in Series 7, just bigger and badder than before. Matilda looks shorter and her whole face now flips up rather than just the tusks. Sir Killalot looks the most different from Series 7. They seems to have combined Sir Killalot, Mr Psycho and the live shows House Robot Major Damage into one killing machine.

The arena floor is now steal instead of wood, so that should be less easily damaged by spinners and axes than before.

The heats will be different this Series too. They retain the four way round 1 melees from Series 6 and 7, however after that it all changes. The four qualifying robots will face of against each other 1 on 1 in a round robin, even fighting again against the robot in it's round 1 melee. With points award for a win by KO (including pitting and flipping out the arena, basically anything that stops the opponent from continuing) or a win by a judges decision. I think you will get a point if you lose by judges decision and nothing if you lose by KO. The two robots with the most points meet again in the heat final. This will be the same for all 5 heats. The 6th finalist will be decided by the judges (one would assume it would be a losing heat finalist but who knows.)

Anyway let's get on to Heat A. (Click the names for a photo of the robot)

We have a nice mix of newcomers and veterans here.
Behemoth

(DNE is standing for Did Not Enter or Did Not Qualify)

Robot Wars History
Series 1: DNE
Series 2: Semi Finalist (Lost to Killertron (4))
Series 3: Heat Finalist (Lost to Pitbull)
Series 4: (Seeded 6th) Heat Finalist (Lost to X-Terminator 2 (22))
Series 5: (Seeded 15th) Round 2 (Lost to Crushstachien)
Series 6: Round 2 (Lost to Bigger Brother)
Series 7:(Seeded 10th) Round 2 (Lost to Mute)

Other notable achievements: First World Championship Runner up.

Behemoth retains it's main shape pf a box with scoop it's had since series 3 for the 8th war. The main difference is they have ditched the over head axe for this war and the side self righting arms have been beefed up. It's had reliability issues in the past, notably in Series 7 when the robot went insane after Mute self-righted over it and damaged the ariel.

Bonk
Robot Wars History (As Mute)
Series 1-6: DNE
Series 7: Semi Finalist (Lost in the last 16 to Firestorm 5)

Other notable achievements: Extreme 2 New Blood runner up.

Ah the team who beat Behemoth in Series 7 and here they meet again. Sadly Mute was not battle ready, so they return with Bonk, a box shaped robot with a powerful Hammer/Axe weapon. Hopefully the axe will act as a better self-righting mechanism than Mute's flipper, which provided some amazing gymnastics but was not great at putting Mute back on it's wheels.

Bonk won't be the only former rival of Behemoth in tonight's hear... More on that later though.

Carbide
We'll call this a newcomer, although parts of the team were members of the Tiberius team, the Razer-esq robot wasn't that sucsessful, reaching one Heat Final between Seires 4 and 7. It did manage to win the University Challenge episode of Extreme 2.

Carbide looks impressive. Invertible with from the preview clips shown on BBC 2 what looks like an incredibly powerful spinning bar at the front. This robot is one to watch, and in a heat full of very successful past robots, could cause a few shocks tonight. Particularly as the live circuit does not have many spinners at all, as the live circuit arenas don't usually permit spinners.

Kill-E-Crank-E
Built by Robin Herrick, who designed former finalists Body Hammer and Pussycat as part of Team Cold Fusion, this robot looks incredibly like Series 5 and 6 Semi-Finalist S3. It has a long wheel base, with a front spinner, it is just much shorter than S3 with a smaller disc. The builder has good pedigree will that be enough?

Nuts
An actual complete newcomer now. A three part cluster bot (A first for Robot Wars I think), who is clearly making use of the increased weight limit for this series. As 2 parts of the robot are completely tiny wedges. I am not sure how the cluster bot rule works for series 8, in the past it has varied from 50% of the robot being immobile to 100%, that could really impact on Nuts. The robot itself reminds me a bit of Stinger, although it is not an axle bot. The arms with chains flail and thwack around trying to cause as much damage to opponents as possible. The cluster wedges are designed to get under robots and impede their movement to allow the main robot to do damage. I am intrigued to see how this works out.

Terrorhurtz
Series 1: DNE
As Killerhurtz
Series 2: Heat Semi-Final (Lost to Road Block)
Series 3: Round 1 (Lost to Cerberus)
Series 4: (Seeded 16th oddly) Round 2 (Lost to Splinter
As Terrorhurtz
Series 5: Round 2: Lost to Fluffy
Series 6: 4th (Lost to Razer (1) in the Grand Final eliminators and then to Firestorm 4 (3) in the third place playoff.)
Series 7: The robot was not ready in time, but since so many semi-finalists from series 6 dropped out prior to filming (rule changes are to blame) they were shown on screen being disqualified for not being ready or something really ridiculous.

Other notable achievments. As Killerhurts, they came second in the first ever pay-per-view Battle Bots competition. They competed to differing levels of success all the way up to season 4.0.

Terrorhurtz has such a powerful axe, the robot lifts itself off the ground and shakes violently when the axe is fired. Reliability problems have hurt it in the past, but I wouldn't want to have my robot on the end of the axe when it hits right. Terrorhurtz have won the Live Shows "UK Championship" whilst the show has been off air and they are not the only former finalist in tonights show BUT more on that later.

And now a comeback that is really odd.
The General
Series 2 (As Spartacus) Entered and lost the Light Weight battle.
Series 3: Football Side Competition- Finalist

Then nothing... till now. This invertible box is equipped with a front vertical spinning disc, the disc is heavy and powerful. However it's got rather exposed wheels, and it's thin armour doesn't look safe, with some powerful looking spinners in this heat, as well as Terrorhurtz's axe and also the last robot in our heat...

ARE YOU READY?
Razer
Series 1: DNE
Series 2: Heat-Semi Finalist (Lost to Inquisiter)
Series 3: Heat-Semi Finalist (Lost to Aggrobot)
Series 4: (Seeded 3) Heat Finalist (Lost to Pussycat (19))
Series 5: (Seeded 4) Champion
Series 6: (Seeded 1) Runner Up (Lost to Tornado (12))
Series 7: DNE

Other notable achievements, winner of All Stars 1 and All Stars 2, First and Second World Champion, Southern Annihilator Winner, Killed Matilda among many other mini-tournaments and end of Series awards.

THEY'RE BAAAAACK!

Yes one of the most destructive (and in the past unreliable) robots in the history of The Wars is back and with a point to prove. Razer has won pretty much everything at one point or another. They missed series 7 and the robot does't appear much changed from when we last saw it in Extreme 2, if they haven't changed it much will Razer keep up with this new breed of Robot? They have had major reliability issues in the past (see their loses in Series 2, 3 and 4 as well as their vengeance loss in Extreme 1) will Razer be the first former champion to take back a crown they've lost, or will we be in for a shock exit for the former champions? Having controversially beaten Behemoth on more than one occasion in the past, they will be out for revenge tonight.

With a former champion, a finalist and two semi-finalists in this heat there is some great pedigree in this heat, so we are in for a great opening show.
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post 24th July 2016, 03:42 PM
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Robot Wars really did decline when Channel 5 showed it, I felt.

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post 24th July 2016, 04:03 PM
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I'm expecting Razer to walk this (would LOVE to see a Razer Vs Storm battle in the final) but there is some pretty strong experience in this heat so it should prove challenging!

Not sure what to make of the new robin round style, will have to just watch & see how it pans out.

Ahhh yes I remember S3 well, a very good robot that was difficult to flip out due to its unusual shape!
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post 24th July 2016, 07:12 PM
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RAZER OUT ohmy.gif
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post 24th July 2016, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Jul 24 2016, 08:12 PM) *
RAZER OUT ohmy.gif


Really surprising. Nuts should have been eliminated first though, as 2/3 of the clusterbot seemed to have been immobilized, but the rules must have been updated since the original series.
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post 24th July 2016, 07:24 PM
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Yeah that was a little shocking! Hopefully nuts should get hammered in the next round. Awful looking robot

I'm really enjoying this new series so far. Forgot just how much I enjoyed it
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post 24th July 2016, 07:51 PM
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I was unsure at first, but the Carbide vs Nuts fight is the moment it finally clicked, it felt like a real classic battle, plus the complete destruction of Nuts was a joy to watch. Carbide could be the new Hypno-Disc.
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post 24th July 2016, 08:03 PM
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Great heat! I love the new format. There are few teething issues but I'm sure that will get worked out overtime. Looking forward to heat 2 I'll put my preview up in the week for that.
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post 24th July 2016, 09:14 PM
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Okay I am LOVING this new format. It means not only does a robot who has one bad fight end up going home but we get more battles per episode (9 now as opposed to 7).

Gutted for Razer though but that's what it's always been about not just causing damage but driving well too & they misjudged it! Carbide looks phenomenal, very much like Hypno-Disc in its first battle way back when.

I also like how they've pretty much made it impossible to be flipped out the arena as towards the end of the original run it was happening too often & battles were so short. Jonathan Pearce is absolutely crucial though it just wouldn't be Robot Wars without his commentary.

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Unlike another remake BBC2 recently put their hand to, this is an absolute triumph!!

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Jul 24 2016, 08:51 PM) *
I was unsure at first, but the Carbide vs Nuts fight is the moment it finally clicked, it felt like a real classic battle, plus the complete destruction of Nuts was a joy to watch. Carbide could be the new Hypno-Disc.

I completely agree!! It was the stand out fight of the night.
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post 24th July 2016, 09:29 PM
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My only bug bear, I wish they had shown more of what the arena can do and the house robots before the battles started. I also think it would have been nice to have a little history of the winners of the show a bit of a history lesson to the newcomers to the show.

Digital Spy have (oddly) said the new format is better because now it is easy to follow who is going through. I do prefer the new format, but it is more complicated than anything before. Even Series 1 and 2 with The Gauntlet and The Trials was simple. The only ever slightly complicated thing was Series 5 and 6 losers melee.

On twitter it seems to have gone down really well, other than the usual people who complain about everything, oh I don't like that show how dare they bring it back, even though millions of other people enjoyed it. That and people who claiming they love Razer and then spelling it Razor.
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post 24th July 2016, 09:33 PM
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Yeah for the arena itself the floor flipper didn't really do a great deal & I preferred it when the pit descended slowly rather than instant like now (minor thing I know laugh.gif) glad the spikes are there they remind me of the really old school series like Series 3.

The house robots on the whole didn't have much participation other than Matilda but I imagine with more fights to get through there's less time to toy around with immobilised robots so that's fine.
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post 25th July 2016, 10:48 AM
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Absolutely loved the first episode. Gutted Behemoth didn't make it through though, the spinner on Carbide is seriously formidable!

One nag is that in the league rounds, I think the 'loser' from a tie should get the spare 1 point as it did well to make it to the end of the battle.
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post 31st July 2016, 09:37 PM
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So not quite such an explosive show tonight but I'm making sure to love every second as it'll be over before we know it.

Shame about Mr Speed Square that looked fantastic in Round 1 but did next to nothing thereon. Wanted Thor to win it though definitely deserved it as Shockwave got a bit lucky & won't be any match for Carbide in the final whereas Thor stood a chance.
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Omg I forgot about this. Will watch tomorrow on iPlayer.
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post 31st July 2016, 10:48 PM
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WARNING SPOILERS IN MY NEXT POST!
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post 31st July 2016, 10:50 PM
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Heat 2.

Sorry I didn't do a preview. But here for a review.

Round 1
Eliminator 1
Tough As Nails V Disconstructor V Thor V Shockwave.

Disconstructor did about as well as I expected, not very. The tilted spinning disc wasn't very effective in series 7 and didn't have much impact here. OUT.
Tough As Nails, I am shocked. They appeared to have problems from the offset, normally they have great pushing power. However that is the second heat in a row a Series 7 semi-finalist has gone out in the first round in the reboot.
Thor looked impressive, but despite the axe not having much impact. The preview for this robot leads me to belive it will get to atleast the heat final. They have never done much in the past, will they get further this year?
Shockwave was by far the most impressive in this opening battle. Proving sometimes simple is the way foward.

I like how the floor flipper is rouge now and flips by it self.

Eliminator 2
Draven V Foxic V Mr Speed Squared v Chimera
Mr Speed Squared as Trouble and Strife have always looked good but not done well.
Chimera is one of a few robots in this series that look like they have escaped from Series 3 and not in a good way. This would have struggled back then, so it was no surprise to see it go out now. I suspect the others like it will quickly follow.
Draven have never looked solid, in their appearance in the show and live show appearances (when I have seen them)
Foxic, very lucky that Mr Speed Squared took the other two out. A bit like Nuts from last week. I suspect it might do better than Nuts did in the second round.

Round 2
Thor V Mr Speed Squared

Can I just say I hate the bars for stats instead of actual words and numbers.

I love how Mr Speed Squared has an arrow on it to show which way is forwards. However this fight for them is going very much the way of they previous attempts, started well going wrong fast. This is the most effective I have seen Thor's axe. Another robot pitting itself?

Foxic V Shockwave

Probably the two most similar robots in this heat. Foxic is like a smaller version of this robot. I am quite liking the invertible flippers. With it's new lifter Foxic reminds me of SMIDSY.

Really impressive Foxic can push Dead Metal. Shockwave really reminds me of Vlad The Impalor 2 from Battle Bots. Shockwave is the most impressive so far.

Thor V Shockwave
Shockwave's new scoop was shit. They should have tried to flip it. They didn't even really push it into Matilda. Thor a deserved winner even if they couldn't finish Shockwave off.

Mr Speed Squared V Foxic
I suspect Foxic will be too low for Mr Speed Squared.

I really don't know why Foxic didn't try and pit Mr Speed Squared. Not that the spinner was working, but Foxic was too low to be hit by it. So could have easily pushed it around. Considering that fight was edited down to about 30 seconds that was pathetic.

Foxic V Thor
So Foxic are out, as even if they win, they will only be on 3 points, and they lost to Shockwave so wouldn't get through.

Anyway, Foxic more impressive here, but not great. Thor somehow on 8 points, it's been good, but not great so far. Foxic, I think representative of the lack of time people had to prepare for this series. If we get another televised series hopefully the quality will improve.

Mr Speed Squared V Shockwave
A decider for the heat final!
Shockwave, put on a better scoop please, thanks! Also losing a chain again?
For Mr Speed Squared, it has gone the way it has for them with Revenge and Trouble of Strife in series 6 and 7.

Shockwave also reminds me of Panzer Mk 4.

Heat Final
Shockwave V Thor

Let's hope for a better Heat Final than last week.

Well! At least Thor didn't pit itself. Thor seemed to kill it's own drive with the power of the axe. I am glad Shockwave used a decent scoop this time.

However it's going to get taken apart when it meets Carbide in the final.

Next week see's the return of a previous runner up, two former series semi finalists, a world championship runner up a winner of the UK Championship (when the series was off the air, does it count? Erm.... no?), another robot that looks like it's escaped from Series 3 (at least this one was a semi finalist) and what could be one of the most annoying children since the Bigger Brother team, they own New Blood heat finalist Edge Hog (who went out twice in round 1 in the actual series) and their robot looks a lot like them. However since they are the previous runner up returning, and they have a new child tagging along I suspect it will be a battle to see who can be the most annoying. More to come when I go into my actual preview though.
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post 2nd August 2016, 06:56 PM
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Shockwave certainly got lucky there.

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post 7th August 2016, 03:35 PM
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Heat C preview.

Dantomkia
Series 1-5 DNE
Series 6: Semi Final- Round 2 (Lost to Razer [1])
Series 7: (Seeded 5) Semi Final Round 1 (Lost to Gravity)

Other notable achievements: All Stars 3 Runner Up.

For the third series in a row Dantomkia is in Heat C. The spiked box wedge? Yeah that about covers the shape, with flipper returns looking very similar to how we have seen it in the past and is in-fact unchanged from Series 7. In Series 7 they were involved in the two quickest battles in the history of the show, defeating IG-88 in its Heat Final in 8 seconds, before losing to Gravity in the first round of the Semi Final in just 6 seconds.

I can see them getting through the first round tonight, but with throwing out of the arena much harder this year I can’t see how it will win fights.

King B Remix
Series 1: DNE
Series 2: Semi Finalist (Lost to Road Block [1])
Series 3: Heat Finalist (Lost to 101)
Series 4: Seeded 17 Heat Semi Finalist (Lost to Atomic)
Series 5: Heat Semi Finalist (Lost to Dominator 2 [11])
Series 6: DNE
Series 7: Heat Semi Finalist (Lost to IG 88)

Other notable achievements: Series 4 Tag Team Terror Champions (With 101)

King B Remix is an invertible box with front lifting forks. The rear spinning disc it has sported in the past appears to be gone, there is now a concaved rear end, I assume to deflect spinners. The wheels look tasty for spinners, of which there are a couple in this heat.

Glitterbomb
NEWCOMER

First of all, this child in this team could be one of the most annoying children in the history of this show.

Basically the team now owns the robot Edge Hog which wasn’t very successful and this robot bares more than a vague resemblance too. The axe mechanism even comes from Edge Hog. When this robot goes out, I suspect there will be tears. I would be certain it would be going out in the first round if it wasn’t for…

Overdozer
I said last week, there are a few “WTF?” qualifiers. This is one of them. Once again looking like it has escaped Series 3, at least this time it looks like a sequel to Semi Finalist Blade.

I really don’t know what to say about this. It’s the only robot this series to use a petrol engine, which powers the rear spinning brushcutter blade. No idea what that is, but it looks like it won’t be very effective, like series 3’s Blade it looks like a lawn mower blade. I must clarify despite my references to it, it is not related to Blade.

Despite the frame being metal, Overdozer’s armour is wood. Very lucky the main spinner is not in its battle. Overdozer consentrates on pushing power, however its front scoop appears to not reach the floor, it has massive ground clearance at the sides and back, especially around the large rear castor wheel. Oh it can’t selfright and is only 86KG.

It was originally supposed to be in Heat 2, but broke down so was swapped with DisConstructor.

Or Te
My previous annoying kids have grown up, so I have another one. Yes that’s right, we have a Bigger Brother replacement.
Series 1: DNE
Series 2: DNE
Series 3: Semi Final Round 1 (Lost to Mace 2)*
Series 4: Seeded 14 Heat Semi Final (Lost to Bulldog Breed 2)
Series 5: Runner Up (Lost to Razer [4])
Series 6: Seeded 2 Semi Final Round 2 (Lost to Terrorhurtz, also lost in the first round to Dominator 2 [6] but won the losers melee over Hypno Disc [4] and Spawn Again [10]
Series 7: Seeded 4 Heat Semi Final [Lost to Iron Awe 2.1]

Other Notable Achievements: Winner of Extreme 2’s Minor Meltdown beating Lambsy.

*Actually lost in its Heat Final on a judge’s decision to Ultor, however the Ultor team decided that Big Brother decided to go through over them. In reality they had to go back to work so couldn’t film the Semi Final.

Looking very similar to Bigger Brother, Or Te is white/silver instead of brown. It is heavily armoured and the flipper looks powerful. It has a tough opening round but if it gets through the first round it could go far. However like Dantomkia it may struggle with limited ability to flip an opponent out of the arena.

TR 2
NEWCOMER

Despite not having appeared on our TV screens before, this is a robot to watch. TR 2 won the UK championship in 2015. It’s a classic design, a wedge shaped rear hinged flipper. However TR 2 has added bite, if attacked from behind when the flipper flips, the back of the flipper is an axe, giving a rear end protection most flippers don’t have. It faces three veterans of Robot Wars in round 1, will their 2015 win be enough to see them through here?

Supernova
Series 1: DNE
Series 2: (As Oblivion) Heat Final (lost to Mortis [2])
Series 3: (As Oblivion 2) Pinball Warrior only- 6th Place
Series 4: (As Oblivion 2) Round 1 (Lost to Saw Point and Aggrobot 2 [20])
Series 5: Round 1 (Lost to Behemoth [16])
Series 6: Heat Final (Lost to Spawn Again [10]
Series 7: Round 1 (Lost to Storm 2 [16] and Rhino)

Other notable achievements: Third World Championship runner up. (Lost to Storm 2)

So much potential, with so little to show for it, Supernova has never quite got it right when it mattered. It’s a simple invertible box design with a powerful spinning disc at the front. The disc has done major damage in the past and as other spinners have proven this year. When you haven’t had to face them for a long time a lot of teams are not prepared for them. It has three pretty heavily armoured robots to compete against in round 1, so I think they might be in trouble here.

Big Nipper
Series 1-4: DNE
Series 5: Round 1 (Lost to Razer [4])
Series 6: DNE
Series 7: Heat Final (Lost to The Grim Reaper)

Other notable achievements: Big Nipper has been rather successful outside of Robot Wars, it’s won two UK titles and has proven difficult to defeat.

I do like me some interchangeable weapons. Big Nipper is an invertible U shaped robot, with the “dip” of the U being the weapons bay. Unlike most invertible robots, Big Nipper has different wheels on each invertible side. For this series its weapons are its classic horizontal crusher which is on the end of a lifting arm, so it can crush and flip as well as a powerful looking vertical spinner.

Round 1 Predictions
Dantomkia and King B Remix
Or Te and Big Nipper

Heat winner Big Nipper
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Been enjoying seeing this show again the last two weeks <3 looking forward to tonight's ep
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