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Posted by: DanielSwift 12th February 2024, 02:17 AM


Posted by: DanielSwift 12th February 2024, 02:20 AM

LEAD SINGLE IS ALLEGEDLY CALLED RODEO

Posted by: Addy! 12th February 2024, 02:22 AM

I thought the single was called Texas Hold ‘Em, no?

Posted by: UltraCruelSummer 12th February 2024, 02:25 AM

As someone who thinks Daddy Lessons is the best song she’s released in the past fifteen years, I am SO excited for this!!

Ari, Kacey, Beyonce and Tay all within just over a month of each other is insane! cheeseblock.png

Posted by: UltraCruelSummer 12th February 2024, 02:26 AM

Texas Hold ‘Em and 16 Carriages are out on tidal!!

(Now please release them on a service people actually use x)

Posted by: No Sleeep 12th February 2024, 02:47 AM

On Spotify now

Posted by: .MIKE. 12th February 2024, 03:04 AM

I knew she was heading country.. but I was not expecting THIS country! I need a cowboy hat immediately!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 12th February 2024, 03:39 AM









Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 12th February 2024, 05:49 AM

Always up for giving new Beyoncé music a shot.

Posted by: Cody Scobell 12th February 2024, 05:51 AM

Beyoncé going country was not in my bingo card

Posted by: Gerald 12th February 2024, 06:05 AM

Ooo Bey going country is an interesting direction.

On first listen, I really like both songs especially Texas Hold ‘Em which I could see being a hit.

Posted by: Sour Candy 12th February 2024, 07:06 AM

QUOTE(Cody Scobell @ Feb 12 2024, 07:51 AM) *
Beyoncé going country was not in my bingo card

She already did the countriest of the country songs on Lemonade (Daddy Lessons)



Posted by: Y'all Starlight 12th February 2024, 09:47 AM

Oh wow! Was not expecting Mitski, Beyonce and potentially Lana to all release country influenced material in a year! Anyway, I'll give this a listen...

Posted by: Liаm 12th February 2024, 09:47 AM

Ooh I’m up for this, Daddy Lessons was absolutely brilliant and I’ve always thought she would be good going country!! Texas Hold ‘Em is great, 16 Carriages is decent, good start for this album. It will be an absolute serve if she has an angry rock track like Don’t Hurt Yourself with country tinges as well!!

Posted by: blacksquare 12th February 2024, 09:56 AM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 12 2024, 10:47 AM) *
Ooh I’m up for this, Daddy Lessons was absolutely brilliant and I’ve always thought she would be good going country!! Texas Hold ‘Em is great, 16 Carriages is decent, good start for this album. It will be an absolute serve if she has an angry rock track like Don’t Hurt Yourself with country tinges as well!!


When Renaissance was first teased I didn't believe the rumours of it being a multiple-act project where Beyoncé reclaims and explores dance, country and rock music over three albums... but here we are. I can't believe it.

Posted by: Liаm 12th February 2024, 10:06 AM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Feb 12 2024, 09:56 AM) *
When Renaissance was first teased I didn't believe the rumours of it being a multiple-act project where Beyoncé reclaims and explores dance, country and rock music over three albums... but here we are. I can't believe it.

A rock album would be her best album ever I just KNOW it

Posted by: Lukuzz 12th February 2024, 10:50 AM

Already loving the 2 new tracks! Daddy Lessons was one of my all time fave Bee tracks so to see her go down the country route is great !


Posted by: DanielSwift 12th February 2024, 11:02 AM

Fun fact: Like most music genres, country music was actually invented by black people.

Posted by: Bjork 12th February 2024, 11:12 AM

Country Lana I did see it coming but not Country Beyonce!!!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 12th February 2024, 11:12 AM

QUOTE(DanielSwift @ Feb 12 2024, 11:02 AM) *
Fun fact: Like most music genres, country music was actually invented by black people.

Partially, yes - but it's not something that can be tied down to one starting point though. The British Country Association states that "The origins of country music trace back to the pioneers from the British Isles who settled in the eastern American Appalachian mountain range. The genre, first known as Hillbilly music, emerged as a fusion of the ballads and folk songs of the English, fiddle and dance music of the Scots-Irish with the banjo and blues influence of African Americans."

But it's certainly a shame that the latter part of that statement doesn't seem to get much recognition!

Posted by: dandy* 12th February 2024, 12:08 PM

I'm not sure this is going to be as much for me as the first Renaissance album was. I'm finding 16 Carriages kinda dull tbh. Texas Hold 'Em is better, definitely catchy enough but probably still not something I could see myself listening to really regularly. I initially felt it sounded like a parody of sorts, but then the more I think about it, the more I guess the first Renaissance album could have been viewed a little like that, it's just that I happened to enjoy the influences a lot more than I typically do country music.

Posted by: Sour Candy 12th February 2024, 01:40 PM

I haven't returned to Renaissance Act 1 at all since 2022. If I could had gone to her concert, it'd probably be different, but without that it kind of came and went.

Posted by: Aaron. 12th February 2024, 02:10 PM

I honestly feel like 16 CARRIAGES is miles above TEXAS HOLD ‘EM.
I’m excited for ACT II, but I was left wanting so much more from Renaissance ACT I. Loving the country vibes and I hope Part III is indeed the Rock inspired album.

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 12th February 2024, 03:06 PM

I much prefer '16 CARRIAGES' to 'TEXAS HOLD 'EM'. 16 CARRIAGES is one of Bey's best written works in quite a while (probably since 'Lemonade')

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 12th February 2024, 06:55 PM

This is very much Beyoncé doing Country and whilst not a bad thing, they’re both just like most other country songs in the aense that I will bop to them and like them, but I don’t think they’re anything particularly special as such and just perfectly fine and nice songs to listen to (and I’m not sure my opinion will change on them too strongly either way)

If it wasn’t Beyoncé and just some up and coming country star trying to break through, I’m not so sure they’d get too far beyond a niche corner of online country fans

The rock album that is rumoured??? YES PLEASE!

Edit: TEXAS HOLD ‘EM is a cute bop!

Posted by: Slayer 12th February 2024, 07:01 PM

I prefer Texas but both songs are pretty blah.

Posted by: Davidson 12th February 2024, 08:23 PM

‘16 Carriages’ is absolutely stunning. ‘Texas Hold ‘Em’ leaves me cold.

Posted by: Envoirment 12th February 2024, 08:53 PM

I really like both songs. "16 Carriages" is very pretty and "Texas Hold 'Em" is already stuck in my head after 2-3 plays. laugh.gif Looking forward to the entire album!

Posted by: Liаm 12th February 2024, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Feb 12 2024, 01:40 PM) *
I haven't returned to Renaissance Act 1 at all since 2022. If I could had gone to her concert, it'd probably be different, but without that it kind of came and went.

Yeah I am the same, idk why because I really love the influences and listen to a lot of that music but I think I just kind of listened, I took 2 or 3 songs I liked and that was it I didn’t go back to it as much I did Lemonade and self titled.

Posted by: -Jay- 13th February 2024, 12:24 AM



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Posted by: Sour Candy 13th February 2024, 09:57 AM

!!!

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th February 2024, 11:34 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Feb 13 2024, 12:24 AM) *


laugh.gif


SCREAMING! rotf.gif

Posted by: No Sleeep 13th February 2024, 02:10 PM

Kinda shocked there isn’t a Beyoncé artist forum on here

Posted by: Sour Candy 13th February 2024, 02:30 PM

I think there was at one point.

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 13th February 2024, 05:10 PM

There was and it never got used. I think the genre forum is perfectly fine tbh.

Posted by: spiceboy 13th February 2024, 09:32 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Feb 13 2024, 12:24 AM) *


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LOLLLLLL laugh.gif

I am loving Texas Hold Em, however 16 carriages is boring.

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 15th February 2024, 08:50 AM

In love with "Texas Hold Em" wub.gif a bop!

Posted by: p a v 15th February 2024, 10:39 AM

I'm in the '16 Carriages is much better than Texas Hold 'Em' camp as well. So good

Posted by: neill2407 15th February 2024, 11:22 PM

I’m not really a big fan of Beyoncé apart from the I am Sasha fierce era and the follow up album but I really like the two new country tracks on iTunes. Is country the direction of her new album?

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 16th February 2024, 02:52 PM

'TEXAS HOLD 'EM' is such a damn BOP! So, SO goooood! It's addicting and whilst it's still nothing too special, I am absolutely having the best time with it right now!

Posted by: Sempachorra 16th February 2024, 03:38 PM

Texas is an incredible bop

Also how is this on the R&B forum?

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 16th February 2024, 03:46 PM

It still has r&B influence and she's always been in this forum. Idk I guess it just makes sense to keep her here?

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 16th February 2024, 04:12 PM

Iirc there was a discussion about this somewhere way back when about keeping artists in one genre forum that they’re most known for or something. I might open this up again later because I think it was a while ago now, but I find it a lot better if artists were in one genre forum regardless of their content. She’s a predominently R&B artist with pop/other influences all throughout though.

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 16th February 2024, 05:57 PM

'TEXAS HOLD 'EM' is already a UK top 10 hit! Debuts at #9 today!

Posted by: Roba. 21st February 2024, 11:53 PM

'Texas..' is a lot of fun, happy for it to give her, her first #1 here in so long!

Posted by: .MIKE. 12th March 2024, 05:19 PM

Act II: Cowboy Carter

Posted by: Gerald 12th March 2024, 05:53 PM

Ugh I hate the title lol. But she's going to deliver with music as usual.

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 12th March 2024, 06:02 PM


Posted by: DanielSwift 13th March 2024, 11:53 AM

I don't know which colour CD to pre-order LMAO

Posted by: J00prstar 13th March 2024, 12:12 PM

Hate the name

Posted by: Cody Scobell 13th March 2024, 12:12 PM

lmaoooooo this title

YEE F*CKING HAW

Posted by: Jessie Where 13th March 2024, 12:59 PM

Yeah, that title is ICK

Posted by: conorw 13th March 2024, 09:54 PM

The name is so badddd tearsmile.gif icl Act 2 genuinely sounds better

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 13th March 2024, 09:54 PM

LOL at that title basil.gif Firstly, Lana calling her upcoming country album 'Lasso' then this travesty laugh.gif The cover art also looks a 'little' less striking then 'Renaissance's biggrin.gif

Posted by: Steve201 13th March 2024, 11:52 PM

They are all jumping on the bandwagon aren’t they!

Posted by: .MIKE. 19th March 2024, 04:05 PM

View this post on Instagram


Completely in love with the album cover!
Even more in love with her caption/explanation behind the album!

Posted by: Davidson 19th March 2024, 04:19 PM

Yes!!! That album cover is much more like it.


Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 19th March 2024, 04:38 PM

God that cover is awful. Photoshopped till she l9oks like a Barbie doll, sat awkwardly upon a cgi horse...

Posted by: conorw 19th March 2024, 04:59 PM

QUOTE(Anita Hanjaab @ Mar 19 2024, 04:38 PM) *
God that cover is awful. Photoshopped till she l9oks like a Barbie doll, sat awkwardly upon a cgi horse...


youve always got something negative to say dont you rolleyes.gif

ilike the cover, and its similar enough to renaissance in style to show theyre part of a trilogy!

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 26th March 2024, 03:52 PM

It's obviously going to be a smash album but... I can't believe this is THIS FRIDAY...

Posted by: Mangø 27th March 2024, 05:20 PM

Is the tracklist available yet? I found this online but it's 27 tracks (!!) so I'm not sure how accurate it is (and it only mentions one collab whereas she's hinted at multiple collabs):

'American Requiem'
'Blackbird'
'16 Carriages’
'Protector'
'My Rose'
'Smoke Hour' feat. Willie Nelson
'Texas Hold ‘Em’
'Bodyguard'
'Dolly P'
'Jolene'
'Daughter'
'Spaghetti'
'Alligator Tears'
'Smoke Hour II'
'Just For Fun'
'II Most Wanted'
'Levii's Jeans'
'Flamenco'
'The Linda Martell Show'
'Ya-Ya'
'Oh Louisiana'
'Desert Eagle'
'Riverdance'
'II Hands II Heaven'
'Tyrant'
'Sweet Honey Buckin''
'Amen'

I guess some of them sound like they could be interludes so it's not necessarily 27 songs. Also 'Dolly P' being an interlude which goes into 'Jolene' featuring Dolly might make sense?

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 27th March 2024, 05:22 PM

Yes it's available. As to what the tracks are and whether there are features or whatever... it's a MESS LMAO.



(But I actually like it - I just wish it was clearer lol)

Posted by: Sour Candy 27th March 2024, 07:14 PM

I truly hope that Willie Nelson is featuring.

Posted by: Cody Scobell 27th March 2024, 07:18 PM

27 tracks??????

Morgan Wallen when I catch you-

Posted by: conorw 27th March 2024, 08:26 PM

That track list reveal is so messy 😭😭😭 i can’t make much of it out 😭 hope dolly is a feature, excited to hear this!

Posted by: dandy* 27th March 2024, 08:56 PM

I actually really like the style of the tracklist reveal!

Posted by: Scene 27th March 2024, 09:12 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 27 2024, 09:56 PM) *
I actually really like the style of the tracklist reveal!


Me too! It's very Americana.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 28th March 2024, 11:47 AM

https://open.spotify.com/album/6BzxX6zkDsYKFJ04ziU5xQ

It's a midnight release at local times!

1. AMERIICAN REQUIEM (5:25)
2. BLACKBIIRD (feat. Tanner Adell) (2:11)
3. 16 CARRIAGES (3:47)
4. PROTECTOR (3:04)
5. MY ROSE (0:53)
6. SMOKE HOUR ★ WILLIE NELSON (0:50)
7. TEXAS HOLD 'EM (3:53)
8. BODYGUARD (4:00)
9. DOLLY P (0:22)
10. JOLENE (3:09)
11. DAUGHTER (3:23)
12. SPAGHETTII (feat. Shaboozey) (2:38)
13. ALLIGATOR TEARS (2:59)
14. SMOKE HOUR II (0:29)
15. JUST FOR FUN (3:24)
16. II MOST WANTED (feat. Miley Cyrus) (3:28)
17. LEVII'S JEANS (feat. Post Malone) (4:17)
18. FLAMENCO (1:40)
19. THE LINDA MARTELL SHOW (0:28)
20. YA YA (4:34)
21. OH LOUISIANA (0:52)
22. DESERT EAGLE (1:12)
23. RIIVERDANCE (4:11)
24. II HANDS II HEAVEN (5:41)
25. TYRANT (4:10)
26. SWEET ★ HONEY ★ BUCKIN' (4:56)
27. AMEN (2:25)

Posted by: Hadji 28th March 2024, 12:22 PM

Looks like it’s being released tomorrow only digitally

Posted by: DanielSwift 28th March 2024, 12:23 PM

My CD has been dispatched! cheer.gif

Also, Miley on the album LET'S GOOOOO!

Posted by: Brer 28th March 2024, 12:56 PM

No actual Dolly Parton feature then? Guessing track 9 is just a spoken interlude from her (and track 6 the same for Willie Nelson).

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 28th March 2024, 01:04 PM

'JUST FOR FUN' has a male feature too. It could be Willie Nelson, but nobody can tell laugh.gif it's certainly an older, gruff-sounding man.

Posted by: Sour Candy 28th March 2024, 01:20 PM

Disappointed that the Willie Nelson track isn't a proper duet sad.gif

Posted by: dandy* 28th March 2024, 02:08 PM

Very optimistic for this, I think it feels like it could be really fun

Posted by: Jessie Where 28th March 2024, 02:21 PM

I was kinda hoping that Gaga rumour would come to fruition.

Posted by: .MIKE. 28th March 2024, 03:06 PM

This is incredible. I was worried when I first heard country.. but I don’t know why, she’s delivered!
Bodyguard, Jolene, II most wanted, Riiverdance &Tyrant are probably early faves. Although Honey Buckin’ is probably up there too!

Posted by: blacksquare 28th March 2024, 03:31 PM

How has she done it again? I'm genuinely a little speechless listening to this — it's so rich and grandiose but also... loose and sprawling? This is going to take a while to unravel and digest.

'TEXAS HOLD 'EM' had me doubting her — what a fool.

Posted by: Lovett™ 28th March 2024, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(WhoOdyssey @ Mar 28 2024, 01:04 PM) *
'JUST FOR FUN' has a male feature too. It could be Willie Nelson, but nobody can tell laugh.gif it's certainly an older, gruff-sounding man.

It's Willie Jones.

Posted by: Cow P 28th March 2024, 06:17 PM

DAUGHTER *.*

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 28th March 2024, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Mar 28 2024, 02:21 PM) *
I was kinda hoping that Gaga rumour would come to fruition.
I really think Gaga will be on PART III! I don't believe that rumour to be caused out of nothing and can definitely envision her and Bey on the Rock part of the project!

I've heard 'II MOST WANTED' and whilst it's nice... Bey's delivery is kinda grating a bit on some of chorus. Not necessarily her voice in particular, just the delivery. Quite jarring and annoying laugh.gif But I'll wait until I hear it in full!

Posted by: Sour Candy 28th March 2024, 07:29 PM

Or maybe Bey is on Gaga's album?

Posted by: Jessie Where 28th March 2024, 07:36 PM

If there is a rock album and Gagz is on that, then I am even more here for it!

Posted by: blacksquare 28th March 2024, 07:45 PM

The whiplash the little Texas Hold'ems are going to get listening to this album nnn

(Bodyguard sounds like a massive hit though)

Posted by: Davidson 28th March 2024, 10:08 PM

This is another fantastic album, but we don't expect anything less from her.
Having listened around four times so far today, here are my track by track thoughts...

09.5 - American Requiiem (what a song to start from... the build, the vocals, the rock elements. YES)
08.0 - Blackbird (a beautiful Beatles cover, but should be later in album? Feels weird as second track)
10.0 - 16 Carriages (still PERFECT)
08.0 - Protector (beautifully melodic - don't love the chorus' lyrics though)
08.0 - My Rose
07.0 - Texas Hold 'Em (bored of this quickly, sorry Bey)
08.5 - Bodyguard (very Fleetwood Mac... will sound incredible in summer. Wish the guitars at end came in earlier)
09.5 - Jolene (this just WORKS - the lyric changes are chef kiss)
10.0 - Daughter (the operatic vocals, the Spanish guitar. I am sorry, THIS IS INCREDIBLE)
06.0 - Spaghettii (I am so confused at why this is here??? I love Rap-Bey and it is not bad but it kills the mood for me!)
07.0 - Alliigator Tears (not bad per se, but seems most unneccessary so far?)
08.5 - Just For Fun (was not expecting a ballad from the name of the song - the second half is beautiful)
09.0 - II Most Wanted (Miley sounds absolutely insane!!)
08.5 - Levii's Jeans (hate Post Malone but he works on this? Love the laidback vibe)
07.5 - Flamenco (more of an interlude, lovely but inconsequential?)
10.0 - Ya Ya (the BEST song along with 16 Carriages - giving updated 'Suga Mama', this is for the B'Day girlies)
06.0 - Oh Louisiana (another interlude which doesn't massively add anything?)
07.0 - Desert Eagle (lovely funky vibe, but think these interludes are only okay... they don't really add to the transitions so just make tracklist longer)
07.0 - Riiverdance (is that a Kelly Rowland - Commander interpolation? Think this will grow, but feels like it drags for me)
08.0 - II Hands II Heaven (reminds me of 'Love Drought' from Lemonade? Lovely)
08.5 - Tyrant (love everything about this apart from the production breakdown which sounds cheap)
06.0 - Sweet Honey Buckin' (people loving this one, but I don't get it... I am finding it annoying as hell, giving country version of 'My House')
08.0 - Amen (lovely way to end)

I would say that there are some songs that need to grow, and personally as I hate long albums, I would have cut 5/6 songs to get it down to the hour mark. I also think the quality of some of the tracks second half, is not as strong as the first half. I have to admit this is the first Beyonce album in maybe 15 years where I think it could have done with a little more editing and curating. But it is such a visionary album, and she achieves everything she set out to here.

It won't beat Act I or even 'Beyonce' or 'Lemonade' for me but it is another triumph, let's be real.

Posted by: No Sleeep 28th March 2024, 11:33 PM

Out an hour early on iTunes in the UK

Posted by: Liаm 29th March 2024, 12:10 AM

Bodyguard is f***ing incredible omfg

Posted by: No Sleeep 29th March 2024, 12:17 AM

Had a visceral reaction to that clicking sound in the left side of my headphones all throughout Blackbiird… never listening to it again! Which is a shame because it’s a good song, but who is responsible for that clicking mad.gif

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 29th March 2024, 01:23 AM

First listen (except THE & 16C ofc) ratings:

10.0 AMERIICAN REQUIEM > This was getting better and better as it went on. SO good! Bey knows how to open an album! <
06.0 BLACKBIIRD (feat. Tanner Adell) > I'm not too big on this in any form I've heard it. This is a nice enough version though I guess. <
09.0 16 CARRIAGES > This got overshadowed by THE but it's really stunning. I hope it can get the rightful recognition it deserves at some point. <
07.0 PROTECTOR
06.5 MY ROSE
----- SMOKE HOUR ★ WILLIE NELSON
09.0 TEXAS HOLD 'EM > This is such a bop. But I'd be lying if I didn't say Tik Tok is killing this song off for me lmao. <
10.0 BODYGUARD > OHHHH This might be THE ONE! <
----- DOLLY P
07.0 JOLENE > Not crazy about this tbh. I find it quite whiny tbh! <
08.5 DAUGHTER > I think this will be the biggest grower. I expected a bit more as this was one of the initial favourites by quite a few people I saw on socials. It's very VERY good. The operatic vocals *.* <
07.0 SPAGHETTII (feat. Shaboozey)
07.0 ALLIGATOR TEARS
----- SMOKE HOUR II
08.0 JUST FOR FUN > This is lovely! I think it could be the most underrated on the album. <
09.0 II MOST WANTED (feat. Miley Cyrus) > Yeahhh the way Bey sings "SHOTgun" throws me off and doesn't suit the vibe of the song, imo. Other than that, I think their voices compliment each other very well! Miley particularly sounds incred. <
08.5 LEVII'S JEANS (feat. Post Malone) > This is a smooth, sensual bop! I wasn't expecting to like this as much as I actually do... omg. <
07.5 FLAMENCO
----- THE LINDA MARTELL SHOW
10.0 YA YA > THIS IS A LOT OF FUN! YESSSS! This is pretty much the country counterpart to 'Summer Renaissance'! I'M LIVING FOR IT!<
----- OH LOUISIANA > My favourite of the interludes! But that's because it plays more as an exitlude to 'YA YA'... <
----- DESERT EAGLE
07.0 RIIVERDANCE > It's fine. I like elements but it kinda feels incomplete a bit to me? <
08.0 II HANDS II HEAVEN > This starts off better than it ends where it feels like it outstays its welcome a little bit, but I like it (and don't particularly dislike the last 2 mins or so) <
08.0 TYRANT > A bop! Will be a grower I think! <
07.5 SWEET ★ HONEY ★ BUCKIN' > Oh... I was absolutely LOVING (presumably) the SWEET part. Like, it was legit going on to be one of my absolute favourites on the album! LMAO. Not sure it deserved to be in a song that switches into a bit of an over produced mess somewhat. But I don't hate it. Maybe I'll just need it to settle a bit more! So many people are saying this is the highlight but I can't say the same for me personally! <
07.0 AMEN > Nice enough ending but not really one I will care about away from the album. <


Another strong album from her. I think I preferred 'RENAISSANCE' more on initial listen, but we'll see how this grows with me. It's not as country as you'd probably think. It's a really solid and nice album. 'BODYGUARD', 'AMERIICAN REQUIEM' & 'YA YA' are my initial favourites. Probably in that order, but I just know 'YA YA' will overtake and likely become my overall favourite.

Posted by: Aaron. 29th March 2024, 04:23 AM

AMERIICAN REQUIEM: what a start, I just wanted this track to go on and on.

BODYGUARD: must be a single.

DAUGHTER: sensational and out of this world I am GAGGED.

JUST FOR FUN: would have been better without the collaboration if I’m being honest.

II MOST WANTED: must be a single.

LEVII’S JEANS: so rich and luscious, this collaboration works!

FLAMENCO: 10-minute version WHEN!? Criminally short.

RIVVERDANCE: smash and the transition into II HANDS II HEAVEN - wow. I’m claiming II HANDS II HEAVEN as my song.

TYRANT: oh- I hear a smash, I can see this being EVERYWHERE.

Top Four On First Listen: AMERIICAN REQUIEM, BODYGUARD, DAUGHTER, II HANDS II HEAVEN

This does feel like a second act as well, so many nods to RENAISSANCE while being able to stand out on its own. LOOK AT THAT HORSE!

16 CARRIAGES and TEXAS HOLD EM sound like they have a beefier mix on the album, or is that just me?

Posted by: Cody Scobell 29th March 2024, 05:29 AM

why do I hear Taylor Swift in Bodyguard 👀 👀 👀

Posted by: Rough_edges 29th March 2024, 06:15 AM

This is absolutely sensational and I thought Texas Hold Em was very cringe textbook country dictionary, lyric wise. This album is one of the best put together pieces of art ever. In awe actually, hands down to Beyonce, finally living up to the hype

Posted by: Rough_edges 29th March 2024, 06:42 AM

Bodyguard is a MOMENT by far best on the album, number one for 4 months please.

Posted by: dandy* 29th March 2024, 10:03 AM

Only listened once but pretty certain this is yet another masterpiece after Pt I. The progression over her career is really something else

Posted by: Sour Candy 29th March 2024, 10:57 AM

Bodyguard and Jolene are IT! What a bops

Posted by: Simon. 29th March 2024, 11:46 AM

On first listen I liked Bodyguard, nothing else stuck out, I don’t get what I’m missing with Beyoncé that everyone else sees?

Posted by: Jordanlee 29th March 2024, 12:08 PM

QUOTE(Simon. @ Mar 29 2024, 11:46 AM) *
On first listen I liked Bodyguard, nothing else stuck out, I don’t get what I’m missing with Beyoncé that everyone else sees?


I’ve pretty much always felt like this with her. I can’t fault her vocals or her abilities as a live act. It’s just her actual material itself pretty much largely does absolutely nothing for me. I am inclined to give this one a go based on me being partial to country and some of the clips I’ve heard have intrigued me.

Posted by: John-James 29th March 2024, 12:11 PM

QUOTE(Simon. @ Mar 29 2024, 11:46 AM) *
On first listen I liked Bodyguard, nothing else stuck out, I don’t get what I’m missing with Beyoncé that everyone else sees?

I agree. I always give her a chance but I just don’t think it’s for me unfortunately

Posted by: dandy* 29th March 2024, 12:13 PM

I’ve ended up cutting Protector, My Rose, Alligator Tears and Flamenco. None of them are bad as such but they don’t hold my interest like the rest and I just think the album works better without them.

Posted by: Bjork 29th March 2024, 12:22 PM

This does nothing for me, not really my thing
I miss pure pop Beyonce of the early days

Posted by: conorw 29th March 2024, 01:18 PM

i'm just relistening to it now, but from my first listen jolene & levii's jeans are highlights. bodyguard is also amazing, i am convinced its taylor on backing vocals cheeseblock.png

Posted by: Nick Jonas 29th March 2024, 02:36 PM

Not for me manson.gif

Posted by: Liаm 29th March 2024, 03:07 PM

I’m loving this project a lot more than I did with Renaissance, which I appreciated for being excellent musically but didn’t personally go back to much. I am a country fan anyway so I expected to enjoy this, but is sonically so rich and really pushes the boundaries of country in a way that very few artists do, much less seasoned country artists who often play it safe.

I do think it’s a bit bloated but I rarely listen to full albums repeatedly tbh, and there are a lot of great tracks from this project that would still make a great album for anyone else.

Posted by: JosephBoone 29th March 2024, 03:23 PM

My thoughts are very similar to Liam's, this album was always going to be more up my street than RENAISSANCE (and actually the couple before that too, as much as I've got a good handful of songs I enjoy from each), so it's no real surprise that I really enjoyed my first play. It's VERY long and my attention span is weak so I'd struggle to name individual favourites from the second half but I generally enjoyed most tracks. BODYGUARD really does feel like a potential hit, would be shocked if that doesn't take off at some stage.

TEXAS HOLD 'EM has properly clicked now, I think it arrives at just the right moment in the album to pick the pace up. I never got round to 16 CARRIAGES (think I assumed it'd be top 40 in its first full week so I'd hear it on Radio 1 and then it just missed out) but that's really lovely, as is BLACKBIIRD. The Jolene cover is cute!

Posted by: Botchia 29th March 2024, 03:35 PM

I enjoyed the album on first listen but not sure if I'll be revisiting it as a whole. I was apprehensive as I'm not the biggest fan of country or TEXAS HOLD 'EM for that matter but thankfully there's much better material on the album. The standouts for me are BODYGUARD, AMERICAN REQUIEM, JOLENE, DAUGHTER and LEVII'S JEANS. 16 CARRIAGES also remains the superior single so far.

Posted by: Ansel 29th March 2024, 04:10 PM

Struggling a little to get into this compared to how instant Renaissance was for me - but country just isn't my thing so I'm ok with that. Bodyguard is definitely my favourite and the cover songs are nice, but I don't see myself returning to this as much as Renaissance which is pretty much still on repeat.

Posted by: Aaron. 29th March 2024, 04:26 PM

It's not a Country Album, it's a Beyonce album. LOOK AT THAT HORSE!
So many songs don't even touch the Country landscape but still tie back into the album or her discography in its entirety. There are songs you could easily pop onto RENAISSANCE, Lemonade or B'Day and they'd fit perfectly.

The tracklisting needs some work, I would have preferred FLAMENCO and DESERT EAGLE to be flushed out as full tracks, and drop all the interludes.

On my second listen, growing to appreciate SPAGHETTII, LEVII'S JEANS and YA YA more. AMEN back into AMERIICAN REQUIEM is why you need to have the album on a loop, it transitions PERFECTLY. But also transitions into "I'M THAT GIRL" seamlessly as well.

This stands out as its own album, but also fits in so well being ACT II and with the rest of her discography. Yes, for me not as instant as RENAISSANCE but so much here to explore as it's not quite as in your face.

Posted by: Tafty³³³ 29th March 2024, 06:23 PM

I’ve had YA YA stuck in ny head all day! So so good! Not enough people commenting/appreciating that for my liking!

Posted by: dandy* 29th March 2024, 07:19 PM

I've rejigged it and it's taken some editing of transitions to make it work but I've decided it's a great album if you have it like this...

01 AMERIICAN REQUIEM
02 BLACKBIIRD (wasn't keen on this as track 2 initially but I read about why she covered it and had the features she did and now it makes much more sense and feels poignant)
03 DADDY LESSONS (yes I know this is cheating but let's be honest it fits so perfectly with the sound)
04 BODYGUARD
05 LEVII'S JEANS (much prefer this earlier on away from the other features tracks)
06 SMOKE HOUR ★ WILLIE NELSON
07 TEXAS HOLD 'EM
08 DOLLY P
09 JOLENE
10 DAUGHTER
11 PROTECTOR (this gets lost for me at the beginning of the proper album but I think it's much nicer following DAUGHTER)
12 SMOKE HOUR II
13 JUST FOR FUN
14 II MOST WANTED
15 SPAGHETTI
16 16 CARRIAGES (numbering a nice fluke but it genuinely works much better here after Spaghetti) - ALSO, this is so much better on the album than I gave it credit for before
17 THE LINDA MARTELL SHOW
18 YA YA ★ OH LOUISIANA
19 DESERT EAGLE (so annoying that this isn't longer as I love the vibe of it)
20 RIIVERDANCE
21 II HAND II HEAVEN
22 TYRANT
23 SWEET ★ HONEY ★ BUCKIIN'
24 AMEN


Whilst this isn't quite up there with Renaissance for me as a whole, it runs it a lot closer than I expected it to. This one definitely has more songs that work as standalone tracks though so it feels like there could be a lot of potential singles and be quite a consistent seller.

Posted by: spiceboy 29th March 2024, 07:51 PM

Texas hold em has really clicked big time for me now I utterly love it!

Posted by: Scene 29th March 2024, 08:20 PM

After first listen, there's some really great songs but also a lot that didn't interest me. Maybe some are growers but these are the early standouts:

Texas Hold 'Em
Bodyguard
Jolene
Alligator Tears - possibly my favourite from first listen?
II Most Wanted
Levi's Jeans
Ya Ya
Riverdance
Tyrant

Posted by: Sour Candy 30th March 2024, 05:03 AM

Future & Metro Boomin tracks are still #1 and #2 on US Apple Music. Thought this would be a landslide #1 there.

Posted by: p a v 30th March 2024, 09:42 AM

The country scene is still very much racist there so I’m not surprised people are not listening to it as much as some mediocre rent-a-rappers

Posted by: Jordanlee 30th March 2024, 11:02 AM

This is definitely her strongest album for me. I’ve never really rated *any* of her projects as whole bodies of work except for maybes self titled but this is definitely a strong body of work.

I am partial to country in general though so it may be that playing into it but yeah I’m actually surprised by how good this is and I’m speaking as someone who’s never really *gotten* the vast majority of her work.

Posted by: Sour Candy 30th March 2024, 12:33 PM

It's not really a country album tbh. The "vibe" and imagery lean towards country tradition but it's very genreless.

Posted by: DanielSwift 30th March 2024, 12:51 PM

My CD hasn't even arrived yet, even though I pre-ordered it a few weeks in advance.

Posted by: Lukuzz 30th March 2024, 01:22 PM

After 2 listens yeah I definitely wouldn’t class it as country, it obviously has bits of it there but there’s many different genres

Overall it’s a good album, but way too long imo, Theres probably only 10-14 songs max that are standing out to me at the moment

Faves so far -

Ameriican Requiem
Daughter
Just For Fun
II Most Wanted
Tyrant

And of course
16 Carriages
Texas Hold ‘Em

Both covers are great too although I think maybe too many lyric changes in Jolene

Posted by: Jαsє 30th March 2024, 01:51 PM

Loving the Post Malone collab!

Posted by: Aaron. 30th March 2024, 03:09 PM


Posted by: Brer 30th March 2024, 05:26 PM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Mar 30 2024, 05:03 AM) *
Future & Metro Boomin tracks are still #1 and #2 on US Apple Music. Thought this would be a landslide #1 there.


The Future song at #1 just had the biggest US streaming week for any song since Drake's 'Way 2 Sexy' and Apple Music is the biggest platform for hip-hop, it would be a tall order for anything to displace it so soon let alone by a 'landslide'.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 30th March 2024, 06:22 PM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Mar 30 2024, 12:33 PM) *
It's not really a country album tbh. The "vibe" and imagery lean towards country tradition but it's very genreless.

Yeah, I feel like there will be lots of controversy later in the year when it doesn't get nominated for country awards because of that.

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 30th March 2024, 06:39 PM

QUOTE(Scene @ Mar 29 2024, 08:20 PM) *
After first listen, there's some really great songs but also a lot that didn't interest me. Maybe some are growers but these are the early standouts:

Texas Hold 'Em
Bodyguard
Jolene
Alligator Tears - possibly my favourite from first listen?
II Most Wanted
Levi's Jeans
Ya Ya
Riverdance
Tyrant


Jole e a standout?!?!?! In what universe? Shockingly bad.

Posted by: gooddelta 30th March 2024, 07:02 PM

Great album, not as country as I expected on the whole.

I saved the following to my playlist to add to Texas Hold 'Em and 16 Carriages, in order of preference (fave at the top):

Bodyguard
II Hands II Heaven (the melody gives me a Born Slippy vibe?)
Alligator Tears
American Requiem
Daughter
Amen
II Most Wanted
Jolene
Blackbiird
Levii's Jeans
Just For Fun
Riverdance

The top four are so good. As always, a brilliant album. A little long but doesn't feel really overblown or anything, I'd have just shed about 3 or 4 songs maybe.

Posted by: dandy* 30th March 2024, 07:07 PM

It's all just continuing to grow with every listen for me, she really has excelled with the first two albums of this project. I know people loved self titled and Lemonade but Renaissance and Cowboy Carter are both much better for me

Posted by: Chez Wombat 30th March 2024, 07:58 PM

This was quite the experience. If Renaissance was a deep dive into dance music, this was one that goes even deeper. I'm surprised there's comments of 'country's not for me so I don't get this' as this is such a genre spanning album that properly dissects the roots and influences of the genre. There's electronica, hip hop, R&B, Opera (!), rock and roll...I'm not a huge country music fan myself, but I found a lot to enjoy here, and it really works as a statement of country's versatility and how it is so often pigeonholed and exclusive in certain circles.

It's a little overbearing and definitely could've used some edits, the mid section with the features didn't quite hit the mark for me, but the craziness of the opening and closing sections makes up for it. Of the highlights, Daughter is wonderful and I certainly didn't have opera down as something she dabbles in here. Nor did I have 60s Psychedelia, YA YA is wonderful and Riiverdance is a riot too. The beefed up production of Jolene is good and I do appreciate a new interpretation of the song, but it doesn't quite work for me as the desperation and vulnerability was part of what made the original so powerful.

I think I may like this more than Renaissance as there is a bit more variety, though they are very close together and work for different reasons. It's insane almost 30 years into her career how much she continues to push boundaries and surprise people, waiting for that rock album with anticipation x

Posted by: Mangø 30th March 2024, 10:59 PM

QUOTE(Scene @ Mar 29 2024, 08:20 PM) *
After first listen, there's some really great songs but also a lot that didn't interest me. Maybe some are growers but these are the early standouts:

Texas Hold 'Em
Bodyguard
Jolene
Alligator Tears - possibly my favourite from first listen?
II Most Wanted
Levi's Jeans
Ya Ya
Riverdance
Tyrant

I think these are my exact highlights too! I also echo the comments that it's not as country as I was expecting - sure, there it's country inspired and there are plenty of country elements but for example 'Tyrant' has nothing even remotely country about it!

Posted by: blacksquare 30th March 2024, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(Mangø @ Mar 30 2024, 11:59 PM) *
I also echo the comments that it's not as country as I was expecting - sure, there it's country inspired and there are plenty of country elements but for example 'Tyrant' has nothing even remotely country about it!


Genres are a funny little concept, aren't they?

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 31st March 2024, 12:40 AM

Tyrant is absolutely incredible as is Riverdance! So many good songs though.

Posted by: Scene 31st March 2024, 12:56 AM

QUOTE(Anita Hanjaab @ Mar 30 2024, 07:39 PM) *
Jole e a standout?!?!?! In what universe? Shockingly bad.


We must be hearing different things as I love it!

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 31st March 2024, 09:48 AM

This truly is an incredible album, possibly even better than 'Renaissance' (which is easily Bey's best album for me and one of my fav albums of this decade so far). 'AMERIICAN REQUIM' immediately stood out as an instant masterpiece, I'm adoring the psychedelic-gospel vibe on that one.

Posted by: lewistgreen 31st March 2024, 09:50 AM

QUOTE(gooddelta @ Mar 30 2024, 08:02 PM) *
II Hands II Heaven (the melody gives me a Born Slippy vibe?)


It samples it!

Posted by: gooddelta 31st March 2024, 09:53 AM

QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Mar 31 2024, 10:50 AM) *
It samples it!


Ah, I did wonder! The credits on Spotify all say 'pending' and admittedly that was as far as my search went laugh.gif

Posted by: p a v 31st March 2024, 10:04 AM

SPAGHETTII tho.. bangahhh

Posted by: Popchartfreak 31st March 2024, 10:51 AM

Heard just Blackbird and Ya ya so far, the former is nice enough, the latter Nancy Sinatra reckons it's prob the best use of a These Boots Are Made For Walkin' sample to date. It bungs in Beach Boys to boot and 60's go-go girl rhythms from zillions of beach teen movies. Much better than Texas Hold 'Em.

Posted by: Sour Candy 31st March 2024, 11:05 AM

Only "Texas" is charting in top 10 on Spotify globally, 3 tracks in top 20, so it's not that bad, but definitely not the giga smash the online hype indicated two days ago.

Posted by: -Jay- 31st March 2024, 04:52 PM

The CD/Vinyl being called BEYINCÉ rather than Cowboy Carter, and having a few tracks missing from them, is catching attention outside of just the fans/collectors:

Beyoncé album is missing tracks on vinyl, fans say
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68702870

Beyoncé Fans Are Not Happy That Some ‘Cowboy Carter’ Songs Were Cut From CD and Vinyl
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/beyonce-fans-upset-cowboy-carter-songs-missing-cd-vinyl-1234997062/

Fans say Beyoncé's 'Cowboy Carter' is missing tracks on vinyl
https://www.nme.com/news/music/fans-say-beyonces-cowboy-carter-is-missing-tracks-on-vinyl-3611530

Beyoncé's new album missing five tracks on vinyl, fans complain
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/31/beyonces-new-album-missing-five-tracks-on-vinyl/

Posted by: Jordanlee 31st March 2024, 06:23 PM

Many seem to think the album was originally called BEYINCE until a last minute change.

I wonder if her having a self titled album may have spurred the decision to change it? But the idea of several tracks being missing would definitely make me feel short changed as a fan.

Posted by: dandy* 31st March 2024, 06:35 PM

It is a bit weird that it wipes out the Linda Martell contributions. I was 50/50 on buying it but now I think I'll definitely pass tbh, the digital version is fine for me

Posted by: Brer 31st March 2024, 06:43 PM

Presumably it is just a case of her continuing to work on the album after copies had already been pressed, this has happened a few times recently and this is far from the most egregious case (see Nicki Minaj's 'Pink Friday 2' missing over half of the final tracklist on its physical version!), though I think it might be the first time that the album has gone out physically with a completely different title lol. Maybe if they were more transparent about it being a different tracklist (e.g. marking the digital only songs as bonus tracks) it'd be a bit less dodgy but really artists should just either commit to the tracklist if they want physicals out on the first week, or accept having a belated release for the physicals if they insist on making last minute tweaks. You can't have both.

Posted by: DanielSwift 31st March 2024, 06:47 PM

My pre-ordered CD hasn't even arrived yet. I assume because it's the Easter holidays.

Posted by: DoBelieveTheHype 1st April 2024, 06:00 PM

For some inexplicable reason Beyonce has a writing credit on the Blackbird cover.

She doesn't have a writing credit on the Jolene cover.

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 1st April 2024, 06:38 PM

QUOTE(DoBelieveTheHype @ Apr 1 2024, 07:00 PM) *
For some inexplicable reason Beyonce has a writing credit on the Blackbird cover.

She doesn't have a writing credit on the Jolene cover.


Could you elaborate on where you are seeing this because I can't see anywhere obvious stating she is a credited writer, she only has a production credit as far as I can see.

Posted by: DoBelieveTheHype 1st April 2024, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(Y @ Apr 1 2024, 07:38 PM) *
Could you elaborate on where you are seeing this because I can't see anywhere obvious stating she is a credited writer, she only has a production credit as far as I can see.


https://uproxx.com/music/beyonce-cowboy-carter-credits-producers-features/

Posted by: Y'all Starlight 1st April 2024, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(DoBelieveTheHype @ Apr 1 2024, 07:41 PM) *
https://uproxx.com/music/beyonce-cowboy-carter-credits-producers-features/


I would say that in this case, it's most likely that the author of the article has simply made an accidental mistake by listing her as a co-writer on the song. I think we can all tell that she hasn't changed anything lyrically in comparison to the original and most platforms aren't reporting her as a co-writer e.g. genius, Spotify, Apple etc.

Posted by: Cowboy Cody 2nd April 2024, 07:15 AM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Mar 30 2024, 05:33 AM) *
It's not really a country album tbh. The "vibe" and imagery lean towards country tradition but it's very genreless.
Ngl the more I listen to the album, the more I see this vision

It starts off being traditionally country and despite keeping that concept, it gets progressively more crossover pop before sliding back into traditional folk/country again. Bodyguard is giving Speak Now TV Vault track in the best way

Posted by: Jessie Where 4th April 2024, 09:00 AM

f*** me 'Bodyguard' is insanely good. Career highlight right there!

Posted by: gooddelta 4th April 2024, 10:51 AM

My CD arrived yesterday. The four missing tracks issue is definitely annoying, as is the fact it was clearly called Beyincé. I wonder if they'll repress it with the other songs and updated cover art at some point.

Posted by: conorw 4th April 2024, 12:34 PM

I’m assuming with the delay with it going into stores maybe the ones released on the 12th will have the updated track list and names? I got a cd just cos I think it’s quite cool to have it with the different name and track list, hopefully there’ll be complete ones too so I can grab one of those!

Posted by: conorw 4th April 2024, 01:06 PM

Ooh I’m just listening to the cd now and Jolene sounds different! There’s a prominent male voice in the cd version that doesn’t seem to be there on Spotify! Maybe it’s just blended into the choir more on streaming!

Posted by: Dexton 6th April 2024, 03:33 PM

QUOTE(Y @ Apr 2 2024, 03:19 AM) *
I would say that in this case, it's most likely that the author of the article has simply made an accidental mistake by listing her as a co-writer on the song. I think we can all tell that she hasn't changed anything lyrically in comparison to the original and most platforms aren't reporting her as a co-writer e.g. genius, Spotify, Apple etc.


She gets the writing credit for changing Blackbird to BLACKBIIRD

Posted by: Sour Candy 8th April 2024, 06:04 AM

Bodyguard is down to #94 on global Spotify - it's not going to be a hit is it sad.gif

Posted by: Gerald 21st April 2024, 02:11 PM

It took a while for the album to hit me but gosh it is so good. I really enjoyed the experimental tracks on CC the most like Spaghettii, Tyrant, Bodyguard, Ya Ya, Sweet Honey Buckiin' to name a few. Although I enjoy RENAISSANCE more as a whole, this album is very good.

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