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 18th February 2021, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(coi @ Feb 18 2021, 10:39 PM)  They have a lot more on their website now than they did before the 2015 update! I certainly prefer how the site is now to how it was before then. I think their revamped site went live within months of chartstats being closed down. They were clear (and understandably) aiming to maximise advertising revenue from their own site. |
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18th February 2021, 11:24 PM
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 It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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It was a great in-depth website chart stats, much missed.
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19th February 2021, 08:42 AM
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the best chart site was chartfreaks.com and http://www.lanet.lv/misc/charts/
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19th February 2021, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(jszmiles @ Feb 19 2021, 08:42 AM) the best chart site was chartfreaks.com and http://www.lanet.lv/misc/charts/ The Charts All Over The World page at your link was a good resource 10 or 15 years ago but it's long since been out of date, containing links to websites that closed many years ago. One of the sites linked to, worldcharts.co.uk, was also a good chart site. That site has also closed and in mysterious circumstances! The site owner was Paul Hart, he used to post at both here and UKMix plus Dotmusic back in the day, under the poster names Charter, Euromusic and poppet15 http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showuser=285 . He had ran the website since 2002, updating it weekly, then without any notice stopped updating it in November 2016. The registration for the site expired in May 2017 and as it wasn't renewed the site went offline. He also stopped posting at both BuzzJack and UKMix around the end of 2016 which makes me think something must have happened to him. He last visted BuzzJack (at least while logged in) on the day he last updated his website.https://web.archive.org/web/20161207212752/...co.uk/index.htm This post has been edited by Robbie: 19th February 2021, 10:40 AM |
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19th February 2021, 11:05 AM
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 Here to play, here to stay
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So is that it then, nobody will ever have the courage (if I can use that word) or ability (from the OCC’s interventions) to ever build a comparative chart website or app containing UK chart data and serve the needs and wishes of chart fans of the world. I just feel like this is a very manipulative situation and unfair that historical data cannot be made available in another format.
Wikipedia lists many different pages of chart facts such as List of UK Singles Chart Number Ones or List of One Hit Wonders on the UK Singles Chart for example. Polyhex seems to have found a loophole that allows them to continue to update and maintain UK chart runs and peak positions with a handy search facility for singles, but not for albums. Everyhit still exists despite not being updated since the start of 2011, but the advantage of this platform is that you can search for albums, EPs and even sheet music to find out what peaked where and when. We really need a new platform for the modern era to allow users to browse, search and locate chart data with ease and that satisfies the OCC’s criteria of what is allowed and what is not. This post has been edited by awardinary: 19th February 2021, 11:06 AM |
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19th February 2021, 11:26 AM
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Polyhex and Everyhit don't replicate the weekly chart listings which is what the OCC seem to have found contentious about chartstats. It's not so much a loophole (as mentioned about polyhex) but more to do with how the information is presented.
I had thought that the OCC had purchased the chart database from the owner of chartstats and had used this as the source for their own pre-February 1994 data in the OCC Chart Archive database. Reading kingofskiffle's comments in a post he made earlier in this thread I'm now not so sure. The original source material is probably the same though, Record Mirror and Music Week for the pre February 1994 charts. The owner of everyhit.com did intend to update his website a few years ago but has seemingly changed his mind. Replying to an email a poster from ukmix sent him a few years ago he did say he was too busy at present to update the site but his long term plan was to do so. It looks like it's not going to happen any time soon, if ever. This post has been edited by Robbie: 19th February 2021, 11:28 AM |
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19th February 2021, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Robbie @ Feb 19 2021, 11:26 AM) Polyhex and Everyhit don't replicate the weekly chart listings which is what the OCC seem to have found contentious about chartstats. It's not so much a loophole (as mentioned about polyhex) but more to do with how the information is presented. I had thought that the OCC had purchased the chart database from the owner of chartstats and had used this as the source for their own pre-February 1994 data in the OCC Chart Archive database. Reading kingofskiffle's comments in a post he made earlier in this thread I'm now not so sure. The original source material is probably the same though, Record Mirror and Music Week for the pre February 1994 charts. The owner of everyhit.com did intend to update his website a few years ago but has seemingly changed his mind. Replying to an email a poster from ukmix sent him a few years ago he did say he was too busy at present to update the site but his long term plan was to do so. It looks like it's not going to happen any time soon, if ever. It's a resource and knowledge thing. if Person A has the data then Person A also needs to have the money to buy the web space and the knowledge to build the site that can be updated. I have the first bit, possibly the second (I have a website already) but absolutely no knowledge of building a database for search and keeping it updated. |
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5th March 2021, 06:11 PM
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The site has been really bad for me this week. Full charts missing with the page saying "error retrieving".
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5th March 2021, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Mar 5 2021, 06:11 PM) The site has been really bad for me this week. Full charts missing with the page saying "error retrieving". It's been fine most of the week but definitely noticed it a lot more today! |
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5th March 2021, 06:13 PM
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Yeah I can't access top 100 albums for this week yet but I can see the top 100 singles
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5th March 2021, 06:17 PM
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Infamy Infamy they all got it in for me
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You can see the top 5 albums on the home page but when you click on the link, you cannot retrieved them
 does not make any sense whatsoever. 
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5th March 2021, 06:33 PM
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Could the Site have been 'Hacked'? I can't find any of the Artist Pages, as well as the various Charts not being there. Has the Site been wiped clean? Either by an Hacker, or by The OCC's own Technology going wrong? I know very little about such things. |
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5th March 2021, 07:06 PM
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is my brain across your walls?
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It's working fine for me, I think it's just periodically buggy (there was a time a few weeks ago where it wouldn't load any archived charts, entering any date just redirected to the current one, but the functionality went back to normal a little later on the same day).
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5th March 2021, 08:34 PM
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It wasn't working for me when I was writing my commentary this afternoon.
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5th March 2021, 08:51 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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Down for me.
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5th March 2021, 09:35 PM
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It's been playing up for a couple of days now with error messages when you try to access weekly charts and artist pages.
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5th March 2021, 09:43 PM
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Exemplary Сasual Dating - Actual Girls
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QUOTE(LMLou @ Mar 5 2021, 06:13 PM) Yeah I can't access top 100 albums for this week yet but I can see the top 100 singles I can't see both  |
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5th March 2021, 10:40 PM
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I haven't been able to view the Top 100 albums for a few days.
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5th March 2021, 10:43 PM
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Error retrieving this chart, please try again later.
The above error message seems to be on most chart pages. |
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5th March 2021, 10:56 PM
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Here to play, here to stay
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When are they going to have a complete rebuild from the ground up, that’s what’s needed.
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