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 Jul 22 2017, 02:27 PM
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this is really complicated, thought songs have to increase 50% in sales to get the normal ratio back, but now I see it's a 50% increase relative to this weekly overall value...
but I see this value is very small 0.3%, that's nothing... does it mean that if Despacito goes from 50 to 52K, which is feasible considering it's NOW week, it would be back to normal ratio?? or am I understanding it wrong? |
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Jul 22 2017, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Jul 22 2017, 03:27 PM)  this is really complicated, thought songs have to increase 50% in sales to get the normal ratio back, but now I see it's a 50% increase relative to this weekly overall value... but I see this value is very small 0.3%, that's nothing... does it mean that if Despacito goes from 50 to 52K, which is feasible considering it's NOW week, it would be back to normal ratio?? or am I understanding it wrong? Understanding it wrong, 50 to 52k wouldn't be a 50% increase if the market only goes up 0.3%. |
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Jul 23 2017, 01:17 AM
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In this increasingly confusing world of ACR are we able to say that Mama and Strip That Down should definitely (by the rules) have ACR applied this week? What are their sales records for the past 4 weeks?
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Jul 23 2017, 06:33 AM
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taken a look, and it appears Jonas Blue actually increased in sales this week, so should be safe from ACR.
Liam Payne did not. |
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Jul 23 2017, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 23 2017, 07:33 AM) taken a look, and it appears Jonas Blue actually increased in sales this week, so should be safe from ACR. Liam Payne did not. I agree on Liam Payne |
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Jul 23 2017, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Jul 22 2017, 02:27 PM) this is really complicated, thought songs have to increase 50% in sales to get the normal ratio back, but now I see it's a 50% increase relative to this weekly overall value... but I see this value is very small 0.3%, that's nothing... does it mean that if Despacito goes from 50 to 52K, which is feasible considering it's NOW week, it would be back to normal ratio?? or am I understanding it wrong? Going to have a go at explaining this in the hope that I understand it... The market fell by 0.3% this week, meaning it was 99.7% of the size it was last week, or 0.997 times. In order to have increased by 50% relative to the overall market, Despacito would have had to increase by (0.997 x 50%) = 49.85%. So more like an increase from 50 to 75k. This is basically 50%, so really we can just ignore the extra term. The whole thing is quite ridiculous though, I get that they're trying to freshen up the chart but it really means nothing now. |
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Jul 24 2017, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 21 2017, 11:14 PM) These songs are in danger of moving to ACR next week, but I can't be 100% sure of anything until the next mids come in. Mid update:5) Jonas Blue feat. William Singe - Mama 6) Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down 12) DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber - I'm the One 20) Imagine Dragons - Thunder 49) Katy Perry feat. Nicki Minaj - Swish Swish 57) Not3s - Addison Lee 71) Oasis - Wonderwall perhaps we'll see some movement in the top 10 next week!!1 Mama down to #7 - ACR hasn't kicked in yet here clearly. Strip down 6-17. I'm the One down 12-22. Thunder down 20-53. Ridiculous!  Swish Swish down 49-95. Addison Lee down 57-81. Wonderwall out of the chart. |
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Jul 24 2017, 09:17 PM
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Yeah I think I dislike these rules. I knew it needed a few weeks to form a realistic opinion. The desired effect is not being had!!
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Jul 24 2017, 09:27 PM
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So Swish Swish doesn't have a chance to become a hit now. Shame because there's still time for radio to get on board more and the music videos effect will surely do something
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Jul 24 2017, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(George.keh @ Jul 24 2017, 10:27 PM) So Swish Swish doesn't have a chance to become a hit now. Shame because there's still time for radio to get on board more and the music videos effect will surely do something Swish Swish's ship had sailed over a month ago. It's not getting any Spotify support anymore, and it's long gone in terms of sales. |
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Jul 24 2017, 09:35 PM
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They clearly aren't pushing Swish as a single anymore, it had its chance and now it's gone. The label could've asked for special measures if they really wanted to still try to push it.
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Jul 25 2017, 08:00 AM
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#VoteGarden.Keh
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But Katy Perry has just finished recording the video. Surely she does record the video for Save As draft and push that rather than going for Swish Swish
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Jul 25 2017, 10:52 PM
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Yeah, exactly. She's been posting pictures on social media of an imminently premiering video for it. Radio 1 will probably playlist it soon in that case?
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Jul 28 2017, 09:05 PM
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July 28th 2017
06 - 17 Liam Payne feat Quavo - Strip That Down 12 - 23 DJ Khaled - I'm The One 20 - 54 Imagine Dragons - Thunder This post has been edited by zenon: Jul 28 2017, 09:23 PM |
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Jul 28 2017, 09:11 PM
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'Bad Liar' isn't on ACR yet, it just had a bad week.
Anyway here are the songs that may be moving to ACR next week. 7) Rita Ora - Your Song 8) Maggie Lindemann - Pretty Girl 12) Camila Cabello - Crying in the Club 56) Imagine Dragons - Believer 65) NEIKED ft Mimi - Call Me 88) Calvin Harris ft Future & Khalid - Rollin 89) Justin Bieber - Love Yourself |
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Jul 28 2017, 09:23 PM
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Who the hell changed the thread title without my permission then and how can I change it back?
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Jul 28 2017, 11:28 PM
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Seems wrong that NEIKED "Call Me" could move onto ACR while it's still bubbling under doesn't it. I think they need to scrap the rule, the chart actually looks better without it!
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Jul 29 2017, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 28 2017, 10:11 PM) 'Bad Liar' isn't on ACR yet, it just had a bad week. Anyway here are the songs that may be moving to ACR next week. 6) Little Mix ft Stormzy - Power 7) Rita Ora - Your Song 8) Maggie Lindemann - Pretty Girl 12) Camila Cabello - Crying in the Club 56) Imagine Dragons - Believer 65) NEIKED ft Mimi - Call Me 88) Calvin Harris ft Future & Khalid - Rollin 89) Justin Bieber - Love Yourself It's flaming ridiculous that Power, Pretty Girl and Crying In The Club have peaked this week yet are almost certain for ACR next week. |
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Jul 29 2017, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 28 2017, 10:11 PM) 'Bad Liar' isn't on ACR yet, it just had a bad week. Anyway here are the songs that may be moving to ACR next week. 6) Little Mix ft Stormzy - Power 7) Rita Ora - Your Song 8) Maggie Lindemann - Pretty Girl 12) Camila Cabello - Crying in the Club 56) Imagine Dragons - Believer 65) NEIKED ft Mimi - Call Me 88) Calvin Harris ft Future & Khalid - Rollin 89) Justin Bieber - Love Yourself I'm not entirely sure I understand the new chart rules, but doesn't the fact 'Power' increased in sales this week means it's safe from ACR? |
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Jul 29 2017, 07:04 AM
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6) Little Mix ft Stormzy - Power
7) Rita Ora - Your Song 8) Maggie Lindemann - Pretty Girl 12) Camila Cabello - Crying in the Club All four of these hitting ACR would give the top 10 a good shuffle, fingers crossed. |
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