BuzzJack Music Forum _ Eurovision Song Contest _ Israel · Eurovision Song Contest 2018
Posted by: AdamAloud 25th January 2018, 04:43 PM
Israel
Netta - TOY
Posted by: AdamAloud 25th January 2018, 04:45 PM
Despite the lengthy goodbye from their spokesperson last year Israel have a new broadcaster and are able to join the party in Lisbon! One again they'll be using the winner of their show 'The Next Star' for Eurovision which is currently ongoing.
Posted by: Styles Bilinski 13th February 2018, 09:54 PM
Netta Barzilai has won the selection and will be going to Lisbon!
Posted by: Ryan. 13th February 2018, 10:29 PM
Anyone that can mash up TiK ToK and Gangnam Style for the most important performance of her life and make it work to amazing effect certainly deserved the victory! I think she might be too quirky for the Eurovision audience, but it'll all depend on the song of course.
Omg this could be the 4th year in a row I proper stan Israel *.*
Please can they give her something like LIZ - When I Rule The World for Eurovision
Posted by: ionderella 14th February 2018, 09:54 AM
holy shit this was incredible and the best thing i've seen all year
Posted by: RobBob 14th February 2018, 10:28 PM
WHAT ON EARTH
Posted by: Ryan. 15th February 2018, 09:54 PM
Posted by: ionderella 15th February 2018, 11:04 PM
she's seriously amazing. cannot wait to see her live *.*
Posted by: AdamAloud 25th February 2018, 02:55 PM
Song is called 'Toy' and is written by the same person behind 'Golden Boy' *.* It will be presented on 10th March.
Posted by: LexC 6th March 2018, 04:31 PM
QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Feb 25 2018, 02:55 PM)
Song is called 'Toy' and is written by the same person behind 'Golden Boy' *.* It will be presented on 10th March.
Rumours are buzzing that this is the one - It's apparently an uptempo (yay!) with an ethno/middle eastern style (YAY!) song written specifically for Netta and her vocal looper (yay?) and is about the #metoo campaign (...yay?).
Posted by: Liаm 6th March 2018, 06:03 PM
Omg that sounds amazing! *.*
Posted by: ionderella 6th March 2018, 09:58 PM
omfg
i'm so f***ing ready
Posted by: AdamAloud 10th March 2018, 11:54 PM
FUCKING INCREDIBLE
Posted by: Ryan. 10th March 2018, 11:55 PM
Never thought I'd think a song with several CHICKEN NOISES is a 10/10 but this is
Posted by: Cameron 10th March 2018, 11:59 PM
YES
Posted by: Jerick 11th March 2018, 12:13 AM
What the actual f***
Posted by: Midge 11th March 2018, 12:30 AM
Well one thing I do know is I can't wait to see that live at Eurovision
Posted by: Liаm 11th March 2018, 12:45 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!
Omg this is incredible. It's either going to b a real contender or it's gonna bomb and come across really badly Probably the latter when the juries kill it lmao
Posted by: Midge 11th March 2018, 12:55 AM
She simply CANNOT cluck like that and miss the final. I'm not sure I particularly like the song, because it is quite frankly ridiculous, but I do massively enjoy it
Posted by: ionderella 11th March 2018, 09:07 AM
INCREDIBLE.
tbh I've been waiting for something even more out there but goddamn it it will be a performance and a half! Israel QUEENS OF EUROVISION *.*
Posted by: rafik4u 11th March 2018, 10:52 AM
Has the song leaked in full? Cant find it anywhere. I was too late for the Youtube vid.
Posted by: LexC 11th March 2018, 11:20 AM
Officially the favourite according to Oddschecker!
Posted by: ionderella 11th March 2018, 11:30 AM
f*** yes
Posted by: Midge 11th March 2018, 11:50 AM
Here's a clip in the meantime!
Found the full audio here: http://infegreece.gr/israel-akouste-to-toy-the-nette-barzilai-gia-th-lisavona/
Posted by: rafik4u 11th March 2018, 12:23 PM
Full now on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/259547370
Posted by: Alex! 11th March 2018, 01:13 PM
this is exactly what we needed. screaming.
Posted by: AdamAloud 11th March 2018, 07:13 PM
Posted by: Cameron 11th March 2018, 07:42 PM
Incredible.
Posted by: Liаm 11th March 2018, 07:50 PM
This is challenging We Got Love for me, honestly incredible. As said exactly what we need and the whole package just brings it to life even more.
Posted by: Midge 12th March 2018, 12:15 AM
I think I love it to be honest, I can definitely see this winning.
Posted by: RobBob 12th March 2018, 01:14 PM
This is AMAZING and most importantly for a contest like Eurovision, it's super immediate. Honestly so pleased this has delivered and MORE.
Posted by: BillyH 13th March 2018, 06:25 AM
First song this year to sweep the odds as favourite, #1 everywhere on all the sites. Estonia and Czech Republic the closest contenders followed by Bulgaria and Australia.
Posted by: Liаm 13th March 2018, 10:22 PM
Omg she clucks because it sounds like the Japanese word for idiot (Baka), the writing of this song is incredible!!
Posted by: Alex! 13th March 2018, 10:27 PM
My mum even stans for this!!
Posted by: Liаm 14th March 2018, 12:24 AM
My mum basically said it was a load of noise because of the chicken noises
Posted by: Jonjo 14th March 2018, 11:34 PM
I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS. But at the same time I ABSOLUTELY f***ING LOVE IT.
I'm really torn between two extremes. Such a bizarre feeling!!!
Posted by: Jerick 15th March 2018, 12:09 AM
QUOTE(Jonjo @ Mar 15 2018, 12:34 AM)
I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS. But at the same time I ABSOLUTELY f***ING LOVE IT.
I'm really torn between two extremes. Such a bizarre feeling!!!
I have exactly the same feeling!
Posted by: Alex! 15th March 2018, 11:34 AM
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 14 2018, 12:24 AM)
My mum basically said it was a load of noise because of the chicken noises
I thought my mum's response would be exactly the same but she was like 'this is actually really clever'
Posted by: jjake 15th March 2018, 11:54 AM
this is LIFE
L Y F
yesss
Posted by: Tombo 15th March 2018, 06:11 PM
I like the first verse but the chicken noises and chorus are dumb
Also the chorus is sexist, there would be outrage if a male was singing "you stupid girl"
Posted by: ScottyEm 15th March 2018, 06:30 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 15 2018, 06:11 PM)
I like the first verse but the chicken noises and chorus are dumb
Also the chorus is sexist, there would be outrage if a male was singing "you stupid girl"
Let’s wait for a time when men are suppressed and sexual assaulted by women, then we’ll talk.
Posted by: ionderella 15th March 2018, 09:28 PM
erm except she's not saying all men are stupid
Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 15th March 2018, 09:36 PM
I heard this is the favourite.
I don't like it.
Posted by: ionderella 15th March 2018, 09:43 PM
*insert Adele's ode to Pink translated into Hebrew here*
Posted by: Jonjo 15th March 2018, 10:07 PM
QUOTE(Shia LeMuffQueef @ Mar 15 2018, 09:36 PM)
I heard this is the favourite.
I don't like it.
You don't like it coz it's popular/the favourite?
Surprise.
Posted by: Liаm 15th March 2018, 11:34 PM
!!!!
Also what a silly notion that this is sexist It's an empowering feminist track borne in a time where there's a lot of sexual abuse etc. going around and it's saying if you think you've got a right to whatever you want over my body you're an idiot. And anyone who behaves is an idiot, to be kind about it It's not like she's saying all men need to die painfully lmao.
It's such a cleverly done song imo, from the vocal ticks (the chicken noises, she does like vocal looping stuff so it makes sense to her style and is adding to her calling the boys a coward, it also comes from the Japanese word for idiot baka as I posted earlier) to the production and the lyrics. People who thinks it's stupid clearly want a boring Eurovision full of female plodding ballads and cheesy pop that sounds like it's from 1998, rather than unique huge pop songs that stand out.
Posted by: Cody Rippon 16th March 2018, 08:48 PM
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 15 2018, 04:34 PM)
!!!!
Also what a silly notion that this is sexist It's an empowering feminist track borne in a time where there's a lot of sexual abuse etc. going around and it's saying if you think you've got a right to whatever you want over my body you're an idiot. And anyone who behaves is an idiot, to be kind about it It's not like she's saying all men need to die painfully lmao.
It's such a cleverly done song imo, from the vocal ticks (the chicken noises, she does like vocal looping stuff so it makes sense to her style and is adding to her calling the boys a coward, it also comes from the Japanese word for idiot baka as I posted earlier) to the production and the lyrics. People who thinks it's stupid clearly want a boring Eurovision full of female plodding ballads and cheesy pop that sounds like it's from 1998, rather than unique huge pop songs that stand out.
I was actually thinking about the vocal loops and how they seemed so organic rather than digitally constructed. For example the first couple lines of the second verse are actually comprehensible lyrics but they sounds like scatting and it’s the same way with the bridge. The way she plays around with the b sound of the word “boy” and then chops it up to create that clucking sound, and it made something that was homophonic with the word “baka”.
So for me it’s not just spreading the message, but it’s that Kiiara-esque production technique that got me.
Posted by: Ryan. 18th March 2018, 08:44 PM
Only thanks to the wonder that is Eurovision could a song containing chicken sounds made by a vocal looper artist in Israel reach a Uganda street dance crew who perform an AMAZING dance routine to it:
This has been growing on me, now that I've heard it is a few times I still don't like the 'stupid boy' line though
Posted by: Jonjo 19th March 2018, 09:45 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 19 2018, 09:19 PM)
This has been growing on me, now that I've heard it is a few times I still don't like the 'stupid boy' line though
Posted by: ionderella 19th March 2018, 11:48 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 20 2018, 12:19 AM)
This has been growing on me, now that I've heard it is a few times I still don't like the 'stupid boy' line though
Posted by: Tombo 19th March 2018, 11:51 PM
QUOTE(ionderella @ Mar 19 2018, 11:48 PM)
I find it sexist tbh
Posted by: Midge 20th March 2018, 09:59 AM
What’s she supposed to say? "Stupid human"? But then it’d be discriminatory against humans I guess.
Posted by: ionderella 20th March 2018, 01:01 PM
Posted by: ionderella 20th March 2018, 01:01 PM
*f***ing double posts*
yeah god forbid someone call Weinstein & Co. 'stupid', it's just as bad as rape
Posted by: Liаm 20th March 2018, 01:10 PM
That is honestly the most ridiculous thing to say The sexist thing is rape and sexual assaults, treating women like a "toy". But ok go off, being against that is the thing that's sexist.....
That's like saying it's racist to write a song about ISIS being bad, it's not it's against the perpetrators. It's not a song like "I f***ing hate men let them all burn slowly and painfully"
Posted by: LexC 20th March 2018, 01:30 PM
Calling this song ‘sexist’ because it has the lyrics ‘you stupid boy’ (note the singular ‘you’ and ‘boy’ i.e. she’s talking about one person) has got to be one of the most reaching and imbecilic things I think I’ve ever seen on BuzzJack.
YOU, stupid boy Tombo!
Posted by: Midge 20th March 2018, 01:35 PM
If this was the Aussie entry the lyrics would be slightly different. "Don’t touch my bongos. You bloody drongo"
(Might be clearer for Tombo)
Posted by: Umi 20th March 2018, 08:08 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 19 2018, 11:51 PM)
I find it sexist tbh
You are truly an idiotic person.
Posted by: Cameron 20th March 2018, 08:15 PM
Kicking off about Israel yet Czech Republic has lyrics in it about a girl f***ing a guy at a club, Sweden 2017 having the 'look so freaking beautiful' lyric in a song all about chasing after women and not to mention Poland with the we are Slavic girls being overly sexualised...
Think someone just either has a problem with Netta or is trying to do the typical 'I hate a song cause bj like it' thing
Posted by: Cucumberella 20th March 2018, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(Umi @ Mar 20 2018, 08:08 PM)
You are truly an idiotic person.
james
btw S C R E A M I N G at jonjo LMFAO
Posted by: Tombo 20th March 2018, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(Midge @ Mar 20 2018, 01:35 PM)
If this was the Aussie entry the lyrics would be slightly different. "Don’t touch my bongos. You bloody drongo"
(Might be clearer for Tombo)
I like the Aussie version, shame it isn't the actual song
I just don't like the line and it doesn't fit well in the song and sounds out of place. Maybe the songwriters don't know much English vocabulary or colloquial phrases.
I've not heard those other songs Cameron but I don't find them problematic tbh based on your descriptions.
Posted by: ionderella 20th March 2018, 09:01 PM
i'm not your toy you stupid...
*thinking in Hebrew of a word that would rhyme with toy*
... CHAP
Posted by: Liаm 20th March 2018, 10:47 PM
You stupid goy
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 01:40 AM
You stupid Roy!
Posted by: Liаm 21st March 2018, 01:43 AM
You stupid
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 01:52 AM
QUOTE(ionderella @ Mar 20 2018, 09:01 PM)
i'm not your toy you stupid...
*thinking in Hebrew of a word that would rhyme with toy*
... CHAP
They could have just had completely different lines for that part of the song
Posted by: Liаm 21st March 2018, 01:53 AM
It conveys the message perfectly. You're barely backing up your frankly incredibly stupid point and it's coming across as being contrary for the sake of it Don't like the song fine, but what a silly thing to pick at for it.
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 01:54 AM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 01:52 AM)
They could have just had completely different lines for that part of the song
But the point is she's not (nor is any woman - or man!) something for this particular man to just play with. She's not a toy, she's a person. If somebody started touching you inappropriately, I think you'd find the word "stupid" quite nice compared to what you'd deserve to be called!
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 01:55 AM
QUOTE(Midge @ Mar 21 2018, 01:54 AM)
But they point is she's not something for this particular man to just play with. She's not a toy, she's a person. If somebody started touching you inappropriately, I think you'd find the word "stupid" quite nice compared to what you'd deserve to be called!
Yeah, given that situation I would think it is appropriate to call some one stupid. I have had it done to me and it wasn't nice
Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 21st March 2018, 02:19 AM
If you wanna talk sexist lyrics, look at the biggest songs of the decade - Blurred Lines especially
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 03:51 AM
QUOTE(Shia LeMuffQueef @ Mar 21 2018, 02:19 AM)
If you wanna talk sexist lyrics, look at the biggest songs of the decade - Blurred Lines especially
That was overly criticised and was more of a case of SJWs-gone-loco
Posted by: jjake 21st March 2018, 08:06 AM
so do you think this song deserves more criticism for sexist content then ‘blurred lines’?
Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 21st March 2018, 09:07 AM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 03:51 AM)
That was overly criticised and was more of a case of SJWs-gone-loco
'blurred lines, I know she want it'
Um in an age of Winesteins, I think talking about sex on blurred lines is kinda gross
FAAAAR more sexist than 'you stupid boy'
'She got dem double Ds' - that ALi G song. Songs with women prancing about next to rappers in underwear. Vs You stupid boy. On far more famous and international songs. Hmmmmmm.
Posted by: ionderella 21st March 2018, 09:24 AM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 04:52 AM)
They could have just had completely different lines for that part of the song
you could've also just not chosen to post your initial 'this is sexist!' claim but you did so
sorry you feel so uncomfortable
Posted by: Liаm 21st March 2018, 01:41 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 03:51 AM)
That was overly criticised and was more of a case of SJWs-gone-loco
I'm sorry but you genuinely must be taking the mick?
The song is basically about rape yet it's "stupid boy" which is sexist...
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 01:51 PM
QUOTE(jjake @ Mar 21 2018, 08:06 AM)
so do you think this song deserves more criticism for sexist content then ‘blurred lines’?
Yes definitely, it was the song of the year and just a case of SJWs going loco and university ‘safe space’ culture rolling into the mainstream media
QUOTE(ionderella @ Mar 21 2018, 09:24 AM)
you could've also just not chosen to post your initial 'this is sexist!' claim but you did so
sorry you feel so uncomfortable
I posted it cos it does sound sexist and it is just a ridiculous lyric
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 21 2018, 01:41 PM)
I'm sorry but you genuinely must be taking the mick?
The song is basically about rape yet it's "stupid boy" which is sexist...
How is the song about rape? I don’t get that meaning from the song
I thought it was about an obese girl taking pride in herself and trying to feel good despite her size
Usually skinny girls get picked for this sort of thing (I am not hating or being sizist, just posting a fact)
Posted by: Liаm 21st March 2018, 01:53 PM
I'm sorry I cannot take you seriously You must be posting for the sake of being "edgy" and having a different opinion. It literally says "I know you want it", it's basically advocating that no doesn't mean no.
YOU are the "SJW gone wild" if you really think "stupid boy" is that offensive Plus you just said a page ago that it would be appropriate to call someone stupid in this scenario because "it was done to you" so make your mind up?
Posted by: Klumzee 21st March 2018, 01:57 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 01:51 PM)
Yes definitely, it was the song of the year and just a case of SJWs going loco and university ‘safe space’ culture rolling into the mainstream media I posted it cos it does sound sexist and it is just a ridiculous lyric How is the song about rape? I don’t get that meaning from the song
I thought it was about an obese girl taking pride in herself and trying to feel good despite her size
Usually skinny girls get picked for this sort of thing (I am not hating or being sizist, just posting a fact)
omg this thread :')
just for reference THIS is the song being referred to...
what is actually offensive about referring to one person as stupid who's done something that's justified being called stupid? (your own words)
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 01:58 PM
Tombola, please explain what is sexist about calling someone a 'stupid boy'
Do you think P!nk was sexist for singing about 'stupid girls'?
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 01:59 PM
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 21 2018, 01:53 PM)
I'm sorry I cannot take you seriously You must be posting for the sake of being "edgy" and having a different opinion. It literally says "I know you want it", it's basically advocating that no doesn't mean no.
YOU are the "SJW gone wild" if you really think "stupid boy" is that offensive Plus you just said a page ago that it would be appropriate to call someone stupid in this scenario because "it was done to you" so make your mind up?
I am not trying to be edgy
‘You stupid boy’ is just a silly lyric that makes the song sound like it was written by a five year old and makes the song sound immature.
Not everyone has the same opinion, isn’t that the point of a discussion forum?
I actually like the song as I said a page or two back, I initially disliked it due to the chicken noises and the lyrics but it has grown on me.
I’m not afraid to point out double standards
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 02:02 PM
QUOTE(Klumzee @ Mar 21 2018, 01:57 PM)
omg this thread :')
just for reference THIS is the song being referred to...
what is actually offensive about referring to one person as stupid who's done something that's justified being called stupid? (your own words)
I know the song, it is one of my most played songs of all time!
To me when I heard this song first (Toy), it sounded like it was putting down all boys, I didn’t know it was only about one. Tbh, the chicken noises are distracting.
QUOTE(Midge @ Mar 21 2018, 01:58 PM)
Tombola, please explain what is sexist about calling someone a 'stupid boy'
Do you think P!nk was sexist for singing about 'stupid girls'?
No cos she is a female singer but if it was released by Justin Timberlake then it would have been
Posted by: Klumzee 21st March 2018, 02:06 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 01:59 PM)
I am not trying to be edgy
‘You stupid boy’ is just a silly lyric that makes the song sound like it was written by a five year old and makes the song sound immature.
Not everyone has the same opinion, isn’t that the point of a discussion forum?
I actually like the song as I said a page or two back, I initially disliked it due to the chicken noises and the lyrics but it has grown on me.
I’m not afraid to point out double standards
but where are the double standards? if a male was a victim of objectification and he was calling that person 'a stupid girl' for doing so it'd still be fine. no double standards. Completely different to what's being said in Blurred Lines.
if you don't like the lyric that's fine but your justification for it makes you sound like a troll as it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 02:08 PM
QUOTE(Klumzee @ Mar 21 2018, 02:06 PM)
but where are the double standards? if a male was a victim of objectification and he was calling that person 'a stupid girl' for doing so it'd still be fine. no double standards. Completely different to what's being said in Blurred Lines.
if you don't like the lyric that's fine but your justification for it makes you sound like a troll as it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
And he'd be perfectly fine to do so, just like Netta is fine to do so here.
What Tombo is really doing is taking the side of the guy who is objectifying Netta. He feels sorry for him
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 02:09 PM
QUOTE(Klumzee @ Mar 21 2018, 02:06 PM)
but where are the double standards? if a male was a victim of objectification and he was calling that person 'a stupid girl' for doing so it'd still be fine. no double standards. Completely different to what's being said in Blurred Lines.
if you don't like the lyric that's fine but your justification for it makes you sound like a troll as it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Yeah but it a man said a woman was a ‘stupid girl’ then he would receive backlash for being misogynistic/anti-feminist/caveman/sexist etc but a woman says it about a man and it is all fine
I’m not a troll, I have given my true feelings for the song
Here are the lyrics, there is nothing about sexual abuse in there, just lots of random noises and lines about Pikachu and teddy bears
I looked up the line in Hebrew and apparently it means she won’t be tricked or manipulated but without looking that up I wouldn’t have known
QUOTE
Intro]Ree, ouch, hey, hm, la Ree, ouch, hey, hm, la Ree, ouch, hey, hm, la Ree, ouch, hey, hm, la Ree, ouch, hey, hm, la Ree, ouch, hey, hm, la
[Verse 1] Look at me, I'm a beautiful creature I don't care about your "modern time preacher" Welcome boys, too much noise, I will teach ya Hey, I think you forgot how to play My teddy bear's running away The Barbie got something to say, hey, hey, hey Hey! My "Simon says" leave me alone I'm taking my Pikachu home You're stupid just like your smartphone
[Pre-Chorus] Wonder Woman don't you ever forget You're divine and he's about to regret He's a bucka-mhm-buckbuckbuck-mhm boy Bucka-mhm-buckbuckbuck I'm not your bucka-mhm-buck-mhm-buck-mhm
[Chorus] I'm not your toy (Not your toy) You stupid boy (Stupid boy) I'll take you down now, make you watch We're dancing with my dolls on the motha-bucka beat Not your toy (Cululoo, cululoo) (Cululoo, cululoo)
[Verse 2] A-a-a-Ani lo buba Don't you go and play with me boy! A-a-a-Ani lo buba Don't you go and play, shake! (Cululoo, cululoo) Wedding bells ringing (Cululoo, cululoo) Money men bling-bling I don’t care about your stefa, baby
[Pre-Chorus] Wonder Woman don't you ever forget You're divine and he's about to regret He's a bucka-mhm-buckbuckbuck-mhm boy Bucka-mhm-buckbuckbuck I'm not your bucka-mhm-buck-mhm-buck-mhm
[Chorus] I'm not your toy (Not your toy) You stupid boy (Stupid boy) I'll take you down now, make you watch We're dancing with my dolls on the motha-bucka beat
[Bridge] I'll t-t-t-take you now W-w-w-with me now, boy
[Outro] (I'm not your toy) You stupid boy I'll take you down now, make you watch me Dancing with my dolls on the motha-bucka beat (I'm not your toy) Look at me, I'm a beautiful creature (You stupid boy) I don't care about your "modern time preacher" (I'm not your toy) Not your toy, not your toy, not your toy, toy I'm not your toy, not your toy, not your toy, toy
Posted by: Klumzee 21st March 2018, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 02:09 PM)
Yeah but it a man said a woman was a ‘stupid girl’ then he would receive backlash for being misogynistic/anti-feminist/caveman/sexist etc but a woman says it about a man and it is all fine
I’m not a troll, I have given my true feelings for the song
I don't think they would - cause we know the lyrics refer to one person rather than half the population. Yes that's a less common situation as in society it's not as accepted for a male to share their story of domestic abuse but they would not receive backlash for that view.
Posted by: Liаm 21st March 2018, 02:20 PM
Please provide us with an instance in which "stupid girl" is seen as misogynistic and sexist. There is no comparison at all between "I know you want it" and "stupid girl" and you can't just say "oh IF this happened it'd be sexist!1!1!" as a justification for hating this lyric. It is not sexist to call anyone stupid, if they are. It's not comparable at all to say calling someone a $l*t or seeing them as a sexual object. It's an adjective used in daily life...
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 02:21 PM
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 21 2018, 02:20 PM)
Please provide us with an instance in which "stupid girl" is seen as misogynistic and sexist. There is no comparison at all between "I know you want it" and "stupid girl" and you can't just say "oh IF this happened it'd be sexist!1!1!" as a justification for hating this lyric.
This post is sexist because you said 'stupid girl' and you're a boy. A STUPID boy.
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 02:22 PM
I would like to retract my last statement.
Posted by: Liаm 21st March 2018, 02:25 PM
I'm not your toy You rather moronic person of indeterminate gender
fixed xxxx
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 02:27 PM
It doesn't rhyme now though
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 02:28 PM
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 21 2018, 02:25 PM)
I'm not your toy You rather moronic person of indeterminate gender
fixed xxxx
Yasss, slay!!
I like it
Posted by: Jack 21st March 2018, 02:37 PM
Screaming at this thread.
Tombo, hater of all animals, lover of Cheeky Girls and thinks a girl saying 'stupid boy' is sexist :')
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 02:40 PM
QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 21 2018, 02:37 PM)
Screaming at this thread.
Tombo, hater of all animals, lover of Cheeky Girls and thinks a girl saying 'stupid boy' is sexist :')
Cheeky Girls GH is my 4th most streamed album of the week
Posted by: Midge 21st March 2018, 02:42 PM
"Take Your Shoes Off" is discriminatory against fingers.
Posted by: Tombo 21st March 2018, 02:44 PM
QUOTE(Midge @ Mar 21 2018, 02:42 PM)
"Take Your Shoes Off" is discriminatory against fingers.
That’s the one Cheeky Girls song I didn’t include in my rate choices
Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 21st March 2018, 03:54 PM
QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 21 2018, 01:53 PM)
YOU are the "SJW gone wild" if you really think "stupid boy" is that offensive Plus you just said a page ago that it would be appropriate to call someone stupid in this scenario because "it was done to you" so make your mind up?
I'm not your toy You rather moronic person of indeterminate gender
fixed xxxx
Let me add:
I'm not your toy You rather moronic person of indeterminate gender I know you want it boy You say no, I hear yes!
Posted by: Iz 21st March 2018, 05:20 PM
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 01:51 PM)
Yes definitely, it was the song of the year and just a case of SJWs going loco and university ‘safe space’ culture rolling into the mainstream media
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 01:51 PM)
I posted it cos it does sound sexist and it is just a ridiculous lyric
I think that pithily sums up this thread.
And to that I say:
QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 21 2018, 01:59 PM)
I’m not afraid to point out double standards
(in case you're confused: when decrying something as sexist, look at your own perspective. I shouldn't need to explain any further).
Posted by: Hayzayy 22nd March 2018, 02:54 PM
#JudgingFromTheVideoWithoutSound
This looks like a Meghan Trainor video with some RuPaul in it. Entertaining in a way but no thank you.
5/10.
Posted by: Voodoo 4th April 2018, 02:30 PM
QUOTE(Hayzayy @ Mar 22 2018, 05:54 PM)
This looks like a Meghan Trainor video with some RuPaul in it. Entertaining in a way but no thank you.
5/10.
Cheryl could never.
QUOTE(Hayzayy @ Mar 22 2018, 05:54 PM)
#JudgingFromTheVideoWithoutSound
TURN THE SOUND ON.
Posted by: Voodoo 14th April 2018, 03:17 PM
Posted by: Tombo Tingz 14th April 2018, 03:35 PM
QUOTE(Voodoo @ Apr 14 2018, 04:17 PM)
It's a fun little dance!
Posted by: Strombae 14th April 2018, 03:36 PM
Netta is such a queen! Wasn't the biggest fan of this to start with but it's such a bop, love it so much! Although I'd say that about like 20 of the songs this year lmao
Posted by: Jason 21st April 2018, 03:34 PM
She's clearly the winner this year. Fantastic pop song and I confess I've watched the video lots of times on Youtube. So, we just want to discover who's gonna be the runner-up.
Posted by: SKOB 28th April 2018, 06:24 PM
The video has 16m views on Youtube, I don't think any of the other contestants has even 5m. The only way I can see this being defeated is that juries decide to hate this through the continent which is unlikely but it's ESC so you never know.
Posted by: Voodoo 11th May 2018, 02:49 PM
This needs to win.
Netta is such a diva. Larger than life.
Posted by: Bitch 11th May 2018, 03:01 PM
I truly despise this as a song and as a performance
Posted by: pippa 11th May 2018, 03:37 PM
I dont despise it but i was amazed by the odds it has to win.
Posted by: AdamAloud 14th May 2018, 04:34 PM
The demo version of the song, sung by the songwriter has been released.
Posted by: Cqmerqn 15th May 2018, 09:38 PM
This has really grown on me actually, it’s a crazy bop
Posted by: Cqmerqn 18th May 2018, 05:07 PM
Charts at #49 in the UK this week!
Posted by: Colm 27th May 2018, 07:10 AM
That second verse still blows my mind.
Posted by: Cqmerqn 13th July 2018, 06:44 PM
Netta is going to be performing ‘Toy’ on the Today Show (in the US) on July 24th!
That’s massive isn’t it?
Posted by: 🎄Cqmerqn🎄 17th December 2018, 06:08 PM
Toy now has 100m views on YouTube, which is incredible for a Eurovision song!