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LexC
post Mar 17 2016, 07:26 PM
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So as of now we have a full set of declared songs in semi final one and we should have the last song of the year from Bulgaria on Sunday. In a year as competitive as this year is, simple factors like running order can make a big difference to a country's chances of qualifying/a good result/winning. So, the main purpose of this thread is A) If you were the producer of the show, what order would you put the songs in and B) Once the running order's been confirmed, who do we think are the winners/losers out of it.

Semi-Final One

First Half
Armenia: Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave
Croatia: Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse
Finland: Sandhja - Sing It Away
Greece: Argo - Utopian Land
Hungary: Freddie - Pioneer
Moldova: Lidia Isac - Falling Stars
The Netherlands: Douwe Bob - Slow Down
Russia: Sergey Lazarev - You Are The Only One
San Marino: Serhat - I Didn't Know

Second Half
Austria: ZOË - Loin d'ici
Azerbaijan: Samra - Miracle
Bosnia & Herzegovina: Dalal & Deen feat. Ana Rucner and Jala - Ljubav Je
Cyprus: Minus One - Alter Ego
Czech Republic: Gabriela Gunčíková - I Stand
Estonia: Jüri Pootsmann - Play
Iceland: Greta Salóme - Hear Them Calling
Malta: Ira Losco - Walk On Water
Montenegro: Highway - The Real Thing

Semi-Final Two

First Half
Australia: Dami Im - Sound Of Silence
Belarus: IVAN - Help You Fly
Ireland: Nicky Byrne - Sunlight
Israel: Hovi Star - Made Of Stars
Latvia: Justs - Heartbeat
Lithuania: Donny Montell - I've Been Waiting For This Night
Macedonia: Kaliopi - Dona
Poland: Michał Szpak - Color Of Your Life
Serbia: Sanja Vučić ZAA - Goodbye (Shelter)
Switzerland: Rykka - The Last Of Our Kind

Second Half
Albania: Eneda Tarifa - Fairytale
Belgium: Laura Tesoro - What's The Pressure
Bulgaria: Poli Genova - If Love Was A Crime
Denmark: Lighthouse X - Soldiers Of Love
Georgia: Nika Kocharov and Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold
Norway: Agnete - Icebreaker
Romania: Ovidiu Anton - Moment Of Silence
Slovenia: ManuElla - Blue And Red
Ukraine: Jamala - 1944

Let the speculation commence!
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post Mar 17 2016, 07:33 PM
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Well for semi 1, this is what I would do

01. Armenia
02. San Marino
03. Hungary
04. Greece
05. The Netherlands
06. Russia
07. Finland
08. Croatia
09. Moldova
10. Estonia
11. Bosnia & Herzegovina
12. Montenegro
13. Azerbaijan
14. Austria
15. Czech Republic
16. Cyprus
17. Malta
18. Iceland
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LexC
post Mar 17 2016, 07:47 PM
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I would order semi one like this

01 Finland
02 San Marino
03 Greece
04 Armenia
05 Moldova
06 Hungary
07 Netherlands
08 Russia
09 Croatia
10 Montenegro
11 Estonia
12 Austria
13 Iceland
14 Azerbaijan
15 Bosnia & Herzegovina
16 Cyprus
17 Czech Republic
18 Malta

Justifications:
- Open with an uptempo that is well performed but probably isn't going anywhere, so either Finland or Moldova fit those choices. I went with the former since I'd err at Moldova opening the show two years running.
- San Marino on 2nd obviously
- Iceland on after a break (which is usually between 12 and 13) if they're still going with the projections so the crew can nail the set up
- Countries I suspect that they want to help get to the final as best they can so as to keep them in next year as late as possible so Croatia as late as possible and Bosnia/Cyprus/Czech Republic all late
- Malta closing becuase it sounds the most 'show closey'
- Alternate between styles/tempos as much as possible
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post Mar 17 2016, 08:45 PM
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Gosh that second half of semi two is bleak as f***

I can see Iceland and Belgium closing their respective semifinals. Armenia and Lithuania are so opening them tho. Espesh Lithuania and their 1st slot history oops
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post Mar 17 2016, 09:49 PM
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They should open Semi 1 with Russia. It's a good starter and, let's face it, it's qualifying wherever it's slotted. I'm worried they will start with Finland and hinder its chances of qualifying.
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Ryan.
post Mar 19 2016, 05:30 PM
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Here are my predictions for the running orders:

Semi-Final One
01 Armenia
02 Greece
03 Moldova
04 San Marino
05 Finland
06 The Netherlands
07 Russia
08 Croatia
09 Hungary
10 Austria
11 Montenegro
12 Azerbaijan
13 Bosnia & Herzegovina
14 Iceland
15 Estonia
16 Czech Republic
17 Cyprus
18 Malta


Going with Armenia as the opener with the obvious "Hey, It's Me" opening line, but if they do go with something "safer" then it'll be Finland. Russia and Croatia should get prime positions thanks to their current odds, and I feel like they will try and push The Netherlands again. I couldn't quite fit Hungary in earlier on as I don't think they'll get a purposeful "pimp" slot, but they could end up with an accidental one. I swapped Czech Republic and Austria around at the last minute, but the former could get the extra push with their Swedish penned song - likewise Cyprus and Malta hence their slots at the end. Then again it could be too obvious to have 3 Swedish songs in a row but when has that stopped Christer. Going with the Iceland after the break too here, banking on the break being a little later due to the extended semi-finals. Can't see Christer bothering to push Montenegro, Azerbaijan or B&H so they are sacrificed.

Semi-Final Two
01 Lithuania
02 Switzerland
03 Belarus
04 F.Y.R. Macedonia
05 Poland
06 Serbia
07 Israel
08 Latvia
09 Australia
10 Ireland
11 Slovenia
12 Belgium
13 Ukraine
14 Georgia
15 Albania
16 Romania
17 Norway
18 Denmark
19 Bulgaria


Lithuania is the other obvious opener, the only reason they wouldn't be is because they opened last year too - Ireland would be my 2nd choice. Switzerland go in second as the most "forgettable" (although I really like it) female ballad, and then I follow a vague male mid to uptempo, female ballad pattern for the rest of the half. Latvia and Australia to get pushed due to current odds and Ireland having a supposed "big name". In the second half I'm grouping Belgium, Norway and Bulgaria together as female commercial power pop and one will get sacrificed at the beginning of the half which is where I'm going for Belgium as Norway have Scandi ties and Bulgaria are returnees and have very apt lyrics to be the closer of the semi-finals. Going with the male/female alternation again with the rest of the running order with Ukraine bringing some publicity power to that underwhelming run (according to the bookies) of Slovenia to Romania.

This is subject to change once Bulgaria's song comes out, but basing this on the lyrics and descriptions we have!
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Ryan.
post Mar 20 2016, 05:29 PM
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Just a quick reminder of the running order announcement times in previous years:

Year: HoD meeting -> Running order reveal
2016: Mon 14 March -> ???
2015: Mon 16 March -> Mon 23 March
2014: Mon 17 March -> Mon 24 March
2013: Mon 18 March -> Thu 28 March

History would suggest we'd get the running order tomorrow, but I'm not sure they'll announce the running order before the Bulgarian reveal even though I know the EBU have had Poli's song since last Monday. We should definitely get it in the next five days, I'm thinking Tuesday may be the most likely day.
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post Mar 22 2016, 02:34 PM
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Now we have everything from Semi 2 I'd do

01 Ireland
02 Poland
03 Belarus
04 Serbia
05 Lithuania
06 Macedonia
07 Belarus
08 Israel
09 Latvia
10 Australia
11 Denmark
12 Albania
13 Georgia
14 Slovenia
15 Romania
16 Bulgaria
17 Ukraine
18 Belgium
19 Norway

I'd initially put Lithuania first but when a lot of the rest of that half has the same kind of mood ant tempo you need them further down to break up songs that are too similar. Norway makes the most sense to me as a closer with a big anthemic feel and Ireland also works as a reasonably uptempo opening.
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Ryan.
post Mar 24 2016, 02:08 PM
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As we've yet to receive the running order this is officially the longest wait we've had since the producer running order announcements began, typical Sweden to be annoying yet again - and it is their own record that they've broken! rolleyes.gif

Hope we get it tomorrow...
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post Mar 24 2016, 03:03 PM
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I'd like:

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01 San Marino: Serhat - I Didn't Know
02 The Netherlands: Douwe Bob - Slow Down
03 Finland: Sandhja - Sing It Away
04 Croatia: Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse
05 Greece: Argo - Utopian Land
06 Moldova: Lidia Isac - Falling Stars
07 Hungary: Freddie - Pioneer
08 Armenia: Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave
09 Russia: Sergey Lazarev - You Are The Only One
10 Cyprus: Minus One - Alter Ego
11 Austria: ZOË - Loin d'ici
12 Estonia: Jüri Pootsmann - Play
13 Azerbaijan: Samra - Miracle
14 Montenegro: Highway - The Real Thing
15 Czech Republic: Gabriela Gunčíková - I Stand
16 Malta: Ira Losco - Walk On Water
17 Bosnia & Herzegovina: Dalal & Deen feat. Ana Rucner & Jala - Ljubav je
18 Iceland: Greta Salóme - Hear Them Calling

II

01 Lithuania: Donny Montell - I've Been Waiting For This Night
02 Switzerland: Rykka - The Last Of Our Kind
03 Poland: Michał Szpak - Color Of Your Life
04 Belarus: IVAN - Help You Fly
05 Serbia: Sanja Vučić ZAA - Goodbye (Shelter)
06 Latvia: Justs - Heartbeat
07 Australia: Dami Im - Sound Of Silence
08 Ireland: Nicky Byrne - Sunlight
09 Israel: Hovi Star - Made Of Stars
10 Macedonia: Kaliopi - Dona
11 Belgium: Laura Tesoro - What's The Pressure
12 Georgia: Nika Kocharov and Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold
13 Albania: Eneda Tarifa - Fairytale
14 Romania: Ovidiu Anton - Moment Of Silence
15 Slovenia: ManuElla - Blue And Red
16 Denmark: Lighthouse X - Soldiers Of Love
17 Ukraine: Jamala - 1944
18 Bulgaria: Poli Genova - If Love Was A Crime
19 Norway: Agnete - Icebreaker
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post Mar 24 2016, 03:06 PM
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I hadn't even seen Ryan's when I did mine! HOPEFULLY some of these pairings (especially in SF2) will be common sense enough to actually make the cut
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post Mar 24 2016, 03:49 PM
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@escheart @Eurovision @SVTmelfest The running order for the Semi Finals will be revealed in the next few weeks

Well it doesn't sound like they are coming imminently does it!
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post Mar 28 2016, 04:12 PM
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Semi 1
01. ARMENIA // Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave
02. SAN MARINO // Serhat - I Didn't Know
03. THE NETHERLANDS // Douwe Bob - Slow Down
04. GREECE // Argo - Utopian Land
05. CROATIA // Nina Kraljic - Lighthouse
06. FINLAND // Sandhja - Sing It Away
07. RUSSIA // Sergey Lazarev - You Are The Only One
08. HUNGARY // Freddie - Pioneer
09. MOLDOVA // Lidia Isac - Falling Stars
10. ESTONIA // Jüri Pootsmann - Play
11. AZERBAIJAN // Samra - Miracle
12. MONTENEGRO // Highway - The Real Thing
13. AUSTRIA // Zoë - Loin d'ici
14. CZECH REPUBLIC // Gabriela Guncikova - I Stand
15. MALTA // Ira Losco - Walk On Water
16. CYPRUS // Minus One - Alter Ego
17. BOSNIA & HERZEGOVINA // Dalal & Deen ft. Ana Rucner & Jala - Ljubav je
18. ICELAND // Greta Salome - Hear Them Calling

Semi 2
01. LITHUANIA // Donny Montell - I've Been Waiting For This Night
02. POLAND // Michal Szpak - Color Of Your Life
03. SWITZERLAND // Rykka - The Last Of Our Kind
04. ISRAEL // Hovi Star - Made Of Stars
05. SERBIA // Sanja Vucic ZAA - Goodbye (Shelter)
06. LATVIA // Justs - Heartbeat
07. BELARUS // IVAN - Help You Fly
08. AUSTRALIA // Dami Im - Sound Of Silence
09. IRELAND // Nicky Byrne - Sunlight
10. MACEDONIA // Kaliopi - Dona
11. ROMANIA // Ovidiu Anton - Moment Of Silence
12. ALBANIA // Eneda Tarifa - Fairtyale
13. DENMARK // Lighthouse X - Soldiers Of Love
14. SLOVENIA // ManuElla - Blue & Red
15. NORWAY // Agnete - Icebreaker
16. GEORGIA // Nika Kocharov & Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold
17. BULGARIA // Poli Genova - If Love Was A Crime
18. UKRAINE // Jamala - 1944
19. BELGIUM // Laura Tesoro - What's The Pressure

These work well for me after having all the songs for a week.
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post Mar 31 2016, 11:15 PM
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Esctoday have revelead the running order!! cheer.gif

Too bad it's an april fools joke


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post Mar 31 2016, 11:34 PM
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If Eurovision.tv pulled the same joke the fanbase would be livid! laugh.gif I can sort of see it being announced tomorrow though with it being the final day of the two to three week period they gave themselves at the delegations meeting, but I presume they'll wait till after midday if so!
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post Apr 1 2016, 08:01 AM
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Finally!

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=runn...finals_revealed

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Running order of Semi-Finals revealed

Stockholm, Sweden - Today, the running order of the songs taking part in the Semi-Finals of the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest has been revealed.
As the previous three years, it was up to the producers of the shows to come up with a running order for the Semi-Finals. It was approved by the EBU Executive Supervisor Jon Ola Sand and the Chairman of the Reference Group, Dr. Frank Dieter Freiling.

After the producers reviewed all entries, the following running order was decided on for the Semi-Finals:

Semi-Final 1

Armenia
Greece
Moldova
San Marino
Finland
The Netherlands
Russia
Croatia
Hungary
Austria
Montenegro
Azerbaijan
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Iceland
Estonia
Czech Republic
Cyprus
Malta

For this show, the advertising breaks are set to be after the 5th and 13th song. Their positions may still change.

Semi-Final 2

Lithuania
Switzerland
Belarus
F.Y.R. Macedonia
Poland
Serbia
Israel
Latvia
Australia
Ireland
Slovenia
Belgium
Ukraine
Georgia
Albania
Romania
Norway
Denmark
Bulgaria

For this show, the advertising breaks are set to be after the 5th and 13th song as well. As with the first Semi-Final, their positions may still change.

The way to the running order
In January, all the Semi-Finalists were drawn into two halves of the two Semi-Finals during the Semi-Final Allocation Draw. All the already qualified finalists will vote in the following Semi-Finals:

First Semi-Final
France
Spain
Sweden

Second Semi-Final
Germany
Italy
United Kingdom

After all the songs were submitted to the organisers at the Heads of Delegations Meeting a few weeks ago, the producers decided upon the running order which was then approved by the Executive Supervisor Jon Ola Sand and the Chairman of the Reference Group, Dr Frank Dieter Freiling.

During the Heads of Delegations meeting it was also drawn that the host country of Sweden will perform at position no 9 in the Final.

The running order for the Grand Final will be decided after the second Semi-Final.

The first Semi-Final will be held on the 10th of May and it has 18 participants while the second one with 19 contestants takes place on the 12th of May. The big Final of the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest is on the 14th of May.
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post Apr 1 2016, 08:02 AM
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So glad for Bulgaria, I'll post more thoughts when I'm not on my phone later!
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post Apr 1 2016, 08:18 AM
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Yay at those pimp slots for Malta and Bulgaria, perfect <3
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post Apr 1 2016, 09:27 AM
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post Apr 1 2016, 09:44 AM
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lmao at first I didn't even bother to open the link ryan posted with that laugh.gif

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