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Posted by: T Boy 27th October 2020, 10:48 PM

Omg not an episode with no Ballum whatsoever!

Posted by: jlj 27th October 2020, 11:31 PM

Yes! A great episode tonight actually.

Kathy featuring more is good to see

Posted by: pippa 28th October 2020, 12:31 AM

Good episode but do other fans feel the Kush storyline is very rushed.

Posted by: T Boy 28th October 2020, 09:11 AM

To be fair a lot seems rushed at the moment purely because we had months of no episodes. Chantelle’s death, Raymond’s return and Frankie suddenly being a Carter are examples of stories I think would have played out a bit longer had the show been on air all year.

Posted by: Liam.k. 28th October 2020, 09:42 AM

Denise getting Raymond back so quickly (or even at all) was a bit of a joke but then the show has never had any respect for adoption.

Last night was decent, just goes to show what happens when you focus on characters people actually care about. More Kathy and less Ballum in future please!

Posted by: Liаm 28th October 2020, 08:13 PM

I think they've addressed the gap well, better than other soaps. Having storylines like Kush's gambling, it makes you realise that they actually thought about what would have happened during lockdown, even though it wasn't on air, like obviously had the show been on, we probably would have gradually seen signs before it built to the point it's at now and they have acknowledged that Kush started playing poker online during lockdown with Martin.

Posted by: lewiscapaldi 29th October 2020, 07:04 AM

Double set of episodes confirmed for November 10th

Posted by: T Boy 29th October 2020, 09:26 AM

Is that Children In Need week?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 30th October 2020, 03:12 PM

Wasn’t expecting that to Honey thank god for Jay !

Posted by: T Boy 30th October 2020, 09:56 PM

Rainie eating a cornetto is life.

Posted by: lewiscapaldi 31st October 2020, 09:11 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Oct 29 2020, 09:26 AM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 31st October 2020, 05:54 PM

Poor Honey,

Posted by: Liam.k. 31st October 2020, 11:37 PM

Really random but this video has somehow ended up being the most watched clip on the EastEnders YouTube channel with 9.9m views, despite only being uploaded three months ago!



Clearly kissing scenes are very popular with viewers as the Top 5 most watched all feature two people kissing!

Posted by: Hallo'Riheen 31st October 2020, 11:48 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Oct 31 2020, 11:37 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 31st October 2020, 11:49 PM

Either that or most of the views are bots.

Posted by: lewistgreen 1st November 2020, 07:24 AM

QUOTE(Hallo @ Oct 31 2020, 11:48 PM)

That's gotta be the algorithm, who even is Becca

Posted by: T Boy 2nd November 2020, 09:16 PM

‘I was watching reruns of ru-Paul, but I didn’t turn into a drag queen!’

Sure, Kat....

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd November 2020, 12:32 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Nov 2 2020, 09:16 PM)

Posted by: jlj 3rd November 2020, 12:44 AM

EE are doing a good job these last few weeks of using the cast well.

We’re seeing bits from almost everyone on the square but there’s no direct focus on one particular character or storyline.

Really liking the direction they went in for Kush and giving him a issue led storyline I also really liked how it tied in with gyms being closed through lockdown they really are writing well for characters! I’m liking Suki more and more too. Honey has been great as well what a scary episode that was when she was spiked.

I’m now beginning to believe the truth in the speculation That when Kush does leave the show he will commit suicide. I think now it’s beginning to make more sense. I think the gambling will get worse / more extreme and I feel as though it’s about to really end in a tragic way.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2020, 01:57 AM

I'm not sure on Suki yet I just have a feeling she will end up been like Gavin and fall completely flat.

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd November 2020, 04:10 AM

Kim is finally back in two weeks time!

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd November 2020, 04:13 AM

QUOTE(jlj @ Nov 3 2020, 12:44 AM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2020, 04:26 PM

The exit runmour if true is starting to make more sense or realistic,

Posted by: T Boy 3rd November 2020, 07:26 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Nov 3 2020, 01:57 AM)

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd November 2020, 08:02 PM

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned before but are we heading towards a Jay/Honey romance??

Posted by: T Boy 3rd November 2020, 09:36 PM

QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Nov 3 2020, 08:02 PM)

Posted by: troylovesmusic 4th November 2020, 01:01 AM

Is it bad that I find Frankie annoying ? In fact the whole Mick and Frankie storyline I just find a bit random and out of nowhere .

Posted by: pippa 4th November 2020, 01:58 AM

I find Frankie very annoying and the storyline itself, I am in the fence.

Posted by: T Boy 4th November 2020, 05:25 PM

The Frankie storyline is boring and feels so forced. I don’t mind Frankie herself, or I didn’t before she became embroiled in the Carters.

Posted by: lewistgreen 4th November 2020, 06:50 PM

She showed such promise interacting with Tina and Kathy as well. Her initial scenes with Ben and Callum were great too.

Posted by: T Boy 5th November 2020, 09:28 PM

I knew a pregnancy for Rainie would be one happy step too far for her and Stuart. I get the feeling she really is leaving too.

Posted by: jlj 6th November 2020, 05:09 PM

Kellie Bright who plays Linda’s Instagram has confirmed that Luisa who plays Tina has had her final day on set

Posted by: T Boy 6th November 2020, 09:19 PM

I know I really should but I just can never feel sorry for Mick.

Rainie and Stuart on the other hand are possibly my favourite characters in the show.

Posted by: Mart!n 6th November 2020, 09:49 PM

I knew exactly that ending was incoming, with a taxi arriving while Mick was just walking along

Posted by: Liam.k. 7th November 2020, 01:44 AM

I've missed these intimate episode set-ups where it's all character focused. Felt like EastEnders for the first time in yonks. (Just seen it was a Natalie Mitchell episode, don't think she's written in a while but she's definitely up there with the better writers).

Finally Rainie and Stuart having some focus! Of course it would have been lovely if they had a happy ending but it wasn't really realistic that Rainie would be pregnant anyway and at least they're now even stronger as a couple. It's incredible how far Stuart has come since 2018 (notice how we're never expected to forget his past or he's portrayed as an all-round good person) and I've grateful for every moment we have Rainie on the show given how she's previously never stayed more than a few months at a time).

Posted by: Liam.k. 7th November 2020, 01:48 AM

Posted by: jlj 7th November 2020, 01:49 AM

Hopefully not a predictable she decides she wants the baby herself after she gives birth type ending.

Posted by: T Boy 7th November 2020, 09:37 AM

I could be here for it, though it’d be nice for Stuart and Rainie to be happy raising Abi now that Max has completely lost interest. I’m trying to think but would this be the first surrogacy storyline in EE that actually went somewhere?

Posted by: Botchia 7th November 2020, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Nov 7 2020, 01:48 AM)

Posted by: Liаm 7th November 2020, 04:54 PM

On paper i like the Mick storyline, it's a great issue based storyline to tackle, but I just can't care when it's Mick AGAIN. So many characters get nothing and Danny Dyer gets everything chucked on him, ofc they had Linda's alcoholism as a family, Ollie's autism, Mick's anxiety, now this. I know the storyline makes sense with him being in care, but the secret daughter was enough without this big important storyline too. It could have been a great backstory for an underused character, but again it's the same old.

Posted by: lewistgreen 7th November 2020, 05:30 PM

The great thing to come out of this is more Shirley. I had hoped for a bit more Tina seeing as she'll be gone soon.

Not here for Tiff being Stuart and Rainie's surrogate. It's like Kate and Jon have been watching Hollyoaks (Liberty, Sienna, Brody) so I hope it is different and Tiff doesn't plan on trying to keep the baby.

Can we have an update on Sonia and her dad please x

Posted by: T Boy 7th November 2020, 05:53 PM

More Shirley is indeed a good things but I hate seeing Mick behave like an entitled man child.

I think this is one dark secret from the Carters’ past too far.

Posted by: T Boy 7th November 2020, 06:55 PM

Eek, awkward moment on Eastenders 2008 when Pat and Patrick joke about Peggy having Alzheimer’s. Very sad now.

Posted by: Andrew. 7th November 2020, 07:12 PM

The Tiffany/Stuart/Rainie storyline is plain weird, how many 17 year old girls get married and become surrogates I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to be 21 to be one as well At least we’ll get more Stainie (my heart at the couch scene last night ), yeah I swear all soap surrogacies end with her keeping the baby though

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th November 2020, 02:28 AM

Really enjoyed stuart and rainie, I hope they get used more.

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th November 2020, 05:14 AM

Posted by: T Boy 9th November 2020, 06:47 PM

Not that I can believe it’s been 6 years but she really was the most useless detective.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 9th November 2020, 09:45 PM

Mick and Katy look around the same age how’s she meant to be 11 years older ?

Posted by: jlj 9th November 2020, 09:49 PM

The actress who plays Katy literally hasn’t aged since Bad Girls and she left that show in 2001!

She looks pretty much the same as she did throughout S3 of the show.

Posted by: Botchia 9th November 2020, 10:52 PM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Nov 9 2020, 09:45 PM)

Mick and Katy look around the same age how’s she meant to be 11 years older ?

Posted by: T Boy 10th November 2020, 10:13 PM

I cannot overstate how much I LOVE Stuart and Rainie and I love the coupling of them with Tiff who is such a brilliant character. I just know something will go wrong though like Tiff getting pregnant by Keegan but passing it off as the surrogacy for the money but I’ll enjoy these characters interacting whilst it lasts.

Posted by: jlj 10th November 2020, 10:34 PM

I hope it’s not a predictable Tiffany decides she wants to keep the baby type story. Especially because realistically a couple like Stuart and Rainie are the types of people most wouldn’t want anywhere near their kids

Posted by: Liаm 11th November 2020, 03:23 PM

It looks to be Keegan who will throw a spanner in the works rather than Tiff, I suppose that's an interesting angle that you don't see often. It'll be how the surrogacy affects their relationship as well, rather than Tiffany just being a plot device for Stuart and Rainie.

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th November 2020, 03:30 PM

Oh great so it's all about poor Keegan again.

Posted by: T Boy 11th November 2020, 06:23 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Nov 11 2020, 03:30 PM)

Oh great so it's all about poor Keegan again.

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th November 2020, 09:12 PM

Catching up on last night's two episodes. "Have a baby for them? What like giving birth?". Yeah... that's the idea Keegan?

Kat and Phil scenes are such a hoot though.

Posted by: Mart!n 12th November 2020, 07:41 PM

@ Phil

I need a gif of that

Posted by: Botchia 12th November 2020, 09:33 PM

The Kat & Phil storyline is genius Today was actual comedy gold

Posted by: Jαsє 14th November 2020, 09:54 PM

Catching up and Phil in that leopard-print pinny had me HOWLING

Posted by: jlj 14th November 2020, 11:54 PM

I love Kat and Phil in scenes together.

Rainie and Stuart and the ketchup ice creams as well just send me

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th November 2020, 02:46 AM

See how funny and likeable Phil is when he’s doing comedy and not in the tired gangster role that gets less realistic as time goes on?

Posted by: Wall 15th November 2020, 11:04 AM

kat and phil are the saving grace of EE

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th November 2020, 02:41 AM

Katy and phil together really works.

Posted by: lewistgreen 16th November 2020, 08:08 PM

BBC One, um can we hurry up please

Posted by: troylovesmusic 16th November 2020, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Nov 16 2020, 02:41 AM)

Posted by: T Boy 16th November 2020, 09:36 PM

Needed more Kim tbh.

Posted by: Botchia 16th November 2020, 09:59 PM

Kim stole the show in just her 5 seconds tbh

Is there anyone left on the square who isn't going to have a motive to batter Beale when the inevitable whodunnit happens

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th November 2020, 07:08 AM

QUOTE(Botchia @ Nov 16 2020, 09:59 PM)

Is there anyone left on the square who isn't going to have a motive to batter Beale when the inevitable whodunnit happens

Posted by: T Boy 17th November 2020, 10:19 PM

How appalling there was no Kim in that episode.

Suki is such a Queen.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th November 2020, 11:14 PM

Im hoping to have plenty of kim in the coming weeks, love having her back again.

Posted by: jlj 17th November 2020, 11:53 PM

Suki

Liked tonight’s episode although I did feel I sussed the police would end up catching up with Kush.

Posted by: lewistgreen 18th November 2020, 10:29 PM

Lauren is going to contact Peter next week as she and Louie lose their home in New Zealand to a fire... cue that Christmas return i called a while back eh

Posted by: jlj 19th November 2020, 01:02 AM

Digital Spy have seemingly confirmed what many of us guessed a while ago One of the Christmas storylines will see a whodunnit mystery where Ian is attacked and left for dead.

Posted by: Liam.k. 19th November 2020, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Nov 17 2020, 10:19 PM)

Posted by: Botchia 19th November 2020, 03:37 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Nov 19 2020, 03:31 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 19th November 2020, 06:30 PM

Pearl is such an icon she should never be recast. Recast Michelle Fowler again before her.

Posted by: lewistgreen 19th November 2020, 08:40 PM

Thompson is a crazed man. I'm keen to know his beef with Phil because it has to stem from something

Posted by: T Boy 19th November 2020, 09:47 PM

If any of this was to have a pay off, it’s be a Kate Mitchell return.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 20th November 2020, 02:17 AM

QUOTE(jlj @ Nov 19 2020, 01:02 AM)

Posted by: T Boy 23rd November 2020, 06:09 PM

Just witnessed Sonia as Cyndi Lauper on Classic EE and I cannot unsee.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd November 2020, 09:16 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Nov 19 2020, 09:47 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 23rd November 2020, 09:26 PM

Bit up himself of Peter to describe himself as the ‘dependable’ one when he used to deal drugs, abandoned Lauren and Louie in another country to return here and mooch off his dad for months and have literally nothing to offer his son when the going gets tough.

Posted by: lewistgreen 24th November 2020, 06:30 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Nov 23 2020, 09:26 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 24th November 2020, 08:44 PM

The build-up to 'Who Attacked Ian?' isn't interesting me at all, but I will take a guess and say Calum will be the culprit. It plays into the good cop/bad cop thing and provides more angst for him and Ben, but ultimately he'll be safe as their toxic relationship will continue to pollute the show as way of pandering to the Twitter mob. Someone like Tina will probably take the fall for it.

Posted by: T Boy 24th November 2020, 09:57 PM

So if it supposedly happens some time next week, I’m assuming we can count Dotty out? She’s barely been on screen since return week and now she’s off to see Dot, who I assume is still in Ireland. This means either her trip there will be stupidly short or they’ve just dropped her from the Ian storyline.

Posted by: Liam.k. 24th November 2020, 10:02 PM

I think they've quietly got rid of Dotty for good.

And yes, it seems like the attack happens next week - the vague synopsis for the Friday episode suggests it occurs then.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th November 2020, 12:10 AM

I dont like Dotty at all so if she is gone or goes i wouldn't be bothered, i wonder can they persuade June Brown to come back for an on screen exit now that we mentioned Dotty, i think for a character that was such a huge part of the show it would be nice to see her return if even briefly.

Posted by: Botchia 25th November 2020, 11:04 AM

The writing for Peter is diabolical atm. They really made him jealous of Bobby for having mental health issues?

Posted by: T Boy 25th November 2020, 08:03 PM

Peter hasn’t been a good character since Thomas Law played him. This Peter has so many issues especially his direction. I can’t understand why he’d return and I don’t understand why he’s sponging off his family and then moaning about them in the same breath.

And they better not bring Lauren back.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 26th November 2020, 01:49 AM

For me the Beales are all been written terribly at the moment.

Posted by: Slick 28th November 2020, 01:41 AM

This Peter is really frustrating to watch. I liked Ben Hardy's portrayl but the writing (and acting) for this incarnation is trash.

Posted by: jlj 28th November 2020, 02:12 AM

I hope Dotty hasn’t been written out for good I really like her.

Suki is my favourite new soap character of the year though she’s brilliant!

I’m still a bit disappointed at how Chantelle’s death has had practically no lasting impact yet she got a brilliant final episode but I think we needed to see her onscreen family grieve for her a lot more. Intrigued to see how Gray is exposed. Is it possible it’s Shirley who works it out or maybes Whitney?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th November 2020, 09:53 PM

Killing of chantelle so far was a huge mistake, zero impact, and not handled all that well since her final scene, im enjoying the kat and phil scenes i have to say and mick is doing my head in at the moment.

Posted by: T Boy 30th November 2020, 09:36 PM

Mick has always been a shit husband, Linda should have gotten out ages ago.

Posted by: lewistgreen 30th November 2020, 09:54 PM

I am quite enjoying this build up to Christmas. Love a good 'Who Dunnit'

Posted by: T Boy 2nd December 2020, 07:02 PM

Loved Max channeling his dear departed daughter Abi by locking someone in the freezer.

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd December 2020, 09:42 PM

Got to admit I did quite like Ian getting one over on Max like that. I bet Bobby heard it all though, kinda worried he'll end up being the culprit now, although nothing will come of it as his OCD will probably be used to excuse it; the writers have only paid lip-service to it so far and they're only interested in plot, plot, plot.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd December 2020, 10:03 PM

Ugh, I’d hate it if it was Bobby. I thought they were steering clear of stuff like this for him.

It wouldn’t surprise me if it was Lexi tho

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd December 2020, 10:14 PM

I stg i hope it isn't Bobby which leads to Max being put in the frame leading to his departure... talk about treading old ground

Posted by: Liam.k. 4th December 2020, 12:36 AM

I "like" how that slideshow very clearly showed one of the previous Bobby actors.

I'm also quite surprised at how understated that scene between Stuart, Tiffany and Keegan was in the cafe - I didn't think EastEnders was capable anymore!

Posted by: pippa 4th December 2020, 01:52 AM

I think it will be Peter but will make people think it's Bobby.

Posted by: Liаm 4th December 2020, 07:24 AM

I kinda hate when there's a whodunnit and they so pointedly make an effort to shoehorn in motives for everyone, I know that's kind of the point but Tina really? Why is her whole personality now "I hate Ian for having the Vic when Mick should" Thing is they'll do all this and it'll be the obvious culprit of Peter or Bobby.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 4th December 2020, 01:30 PM

I really hope it's not going to be Bobby. It will just undo his character journey since his return. I feel Peter would make more sense if it's going to be one of his sons.

Posted by: lewistgreen 4th December 2020, 01:31 PM

Yeah are they forgetting why Mick sold the Vic in the first place? Not sure why Tina is intent on wanting him back in there when I doubt he wants it himself

Posted by: Liаm 4th December 2020, 03:51 PM

Idk if they're just desperate to use her before she exits but they've had YEARS of giving her nothing only for it to feel like she's being shoehorned in now.

Posted by: Liam.k. 4th December 2020, 03:55 PM

They're certainly giving Tina the "let's make her as annoying as possible so people won't miss her when she's gone" treatment.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th December 2020, 04:08 PM

I wont miss Tina at all, i generally found her annoying at the best of times, Linda is the saving grace of the Carters by a long mile.

Posted by: LeGrinch 4th December 2020, 08:28 PM

Surely it’s gonna be Kathy?

It could also be Sharon I guess if she found out about Dennis

Posted by: Santa Baby 4th December 2020, 08:29 PM

That ending

Thinking of looking closer to home, so it could be Peter or Bobby.

Posted by: T Boy 4th December 2020, 09:21 PM

Tina, Rainie and Stuart seem too forced into this for it to be them. Ben, Max, Peter and Bobby seem too obvious. I can’t really see it being Suki either. They also seem to have oddly left Dotty out of this.

I’m guessing it’s probably someone we didn’t see at the end-Kathy, Phil, Sharon and Linda are all possibilities.

Posted by: Liam.k. 5th December 2020, 02:57 AM

Terrible script tonight and wtf was that ending? It's actually embarrassing to watch this shitshow.

I bet we'll get a flashback episode too. Perhaps on Christmas Day? The joy.

Posted by: Sleighk ☃️ 5th December 2020, 09:10 AM

I'd love it if Sharon has found out about Ian's involvement in Denny's death off-screen and taken her revenge.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 5th December 2020, 01:47 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 5 2020, 02:57 AM)

Posted by: T Boy 5th December 2020, 02:14 PM

It was all very forced. We don’t need Ian to go out of his way to wind everyone up as he usually does so in a very natural way. The Rainie and Stuart stuff was excellent until they too were forced into the Ian plot. Tina is just proving what a non entity she is and her part in this is extremely forced. Plus Max could just transfer the money back, couldn’t he?

However, I believe all the arguing between Phil and Sharon is a front for something.

Posted by: Sleighk ☃️ 5th December 2020, 02:16 PM

I love a good old whodunnit but I agree with other posters; this feels very contrived and forced. Ian has always been quite unlikeable but not like THIS, and let's not forget how much he softened after Lucy was killed. I hope the pay-off is good. I will CRINGE if it is Tina who literally has no reason to dislike him anymore than the average person.

Posted by: Santa Baby 5th December 2020, 03:52 PM

I agree with all the above posts, it seems like they chuck the kitchen sink felt it was all contrived, my heart tells me its Max or Tina or maybe both are involved in some way, as both characters are leaving, also Tina never had a problem with him until the last few episodes when she found out about the mortgage fraud.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 6th December 2020, 03:00 PM

I find it weird they’ve left Dotty out of this whole who attacked Ian storyline has she quietly been axed ?

Posted by: JosephCarey 6th December 2020, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Dec 6 2020, 03:00 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 6th December 2020, 03:33 PM

It is a missed opportunity having her absent for this given she’s someone that would have had a genuine motive that wasn’t fabricated in the last two weeks.

Perhaps it will turn out that it was her and she’s just pretending to have gone to visit Dot, but it’s all a bit far fetched.

Posted by: T Boy 7th December 2020, 05:40 PM

I’ve barely thought about this over the weekend, apart from replying to people on here. Not a good sign.

Posted by: Liam.k. 7th December 2020, 07:31 PM

Ratings for tonight's episode are going to be terrible - a clash with an hour-long episode of Corrie, which has a half-hour lead and is the beginning of their 60th anniversary week...

Posted by: Santa Baby 7th December 2020, 07:35 PM

And I just had a thought could Dotty actually be in Walford and laying low waiting for an opportunity to bash him, its been bugging me for a while just to tease the viewers. lol

Posted by: T Boy 7th December 2020, 10:35 PM

That felt really badly written and edited. The acting wasn’t up to much either but then I’m not sure what they could do with those scripts.

They are constantly giving Gillian Taylforth terrible speeches to act out.

Posted by: Liаm 7th December 2020, 10:46 PM

This storyline to me honestly just feels like they cobbled it together post lockdown when they realised they didn't have anything, it's very poorly done. I just don't care either, the suspects are either stupidly obvious or shoehorned in, there isn't any of them where I feel that it being them would be a particularly interesting development. It's all really contrived, forced and hammy, Ian has always been unlikeable but they've hammed up every aspect of that and every aspect of people's beef with him just for this damp squib of a storyline which really is about as intriguing a whodunnit as the infamous "Who's shagging Kat"

Posted by: Liam.k. 7th December 2020, 11:15 PM

Still sticking with Calum or Bobby for the culprit. If it's Bobby, I can see Max taking the blame as some sort of full circle moment.

QUOTE(T Boy @ Dec 7 2020, 10:35 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 7th December 2020, 11:35 PM

I think it's gonna be Bobby or Peter, Max taking the blame for Bobby sounds very likely actually. Bobby having anything to do with it would probably be the most disappointing option, undoing all of the character development he's had since Clay took over the role, so that sounds about right

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 7th December 2020, 11:37 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Dec 7 2020, 10:46 PM)

This storyline to me honestly just feels like they cobbled it together post lockdown when they realised they didn't have anything, it's very poorly done. I just don't care either, the suspects are either stupidly obvious or shoehorned in, there isn't any of them where I feel that it being them would be a particularly interesting development. It's all really contrived, forced and hammy, Ian has always been unlikeable but they've hammed up every aspect of that and every aspect of people's beef with him just for this damp squib of a storyline which really is about as intriguing a whodunnit as the infamous "Who's shagging Kat"

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th December 2020, 06:48 PM

https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/a34905344/eastenders-mica-paris-ellie-nixon-secret/

I'm sick of hearing how "evil" this character supposedly was and how she "even intimated Phil". I also swear no-one had every heard of this "really famous person!!" before but now she's bloody everywhere!

Posted by: T Boy 8th December 2020, 06:54 PM

There is no scope for her to return, at least not until Raymond is much older.

She was Gavin level evil as well. We were told about how awful she was but we never really saw any of it.

Posted by: LeGrinch 8th December 2020, 06:59 PM

Why would Max take the blame for Bobby though?

I guess after last nights episode it rules Kathy out. Is this expected to drag out?

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th December 2020, 07:03 PM

I'm sure Mica is a lovely person but she does symbolise everything I'm hating about EastEnders right now. The acting is maybe the worst it's ever been, the scripts are cliched or outright terrible, the characters are empty vessels there for the sake of the plot, the people representing the show in the media are so delusional about the quality of what's on-screen and there is absolutely no care or consideration about the show. There appears to be big budget issues going on yet they fanny around with special effects and incidental music and bring in 'stunt' castings whilst axing loyal, familiar faces like Max, Kush and Tina. It's an absolute joke.

QUOTE(LeGrinch @ Dec 8 2020, 06:59 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 8th December 2020, 07:10 PM

It absolutely sends me they're actually like Mica Paris is Beyonce or something If she was that good then they should have cast her properly in an actual role, not one to give Denise a storyline. Stunt casting at its worst, a flash-in-the-pan plot device for a plot where nothing much has happened anyway, and it's not even a big name or anyone anybody cares about, with the greatest of respect to Mica Paris. Denise having Raymond back, a child of Phil's, could be interesting, but Phil seems to have just given up anyway and ofc Denise has storylines coming up anyway so it didn't really need to happen, of course it depends how things transpire though.

Posted by: T Boy 8th December 2020, 07:16 PM

QUOTE(LeGrinch @ Dec 8 2020, 06:59 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 8th December 2020, 10:12 PM

What even is this nonsense if Sharon says yes?

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th December 2020, 06:02 PM

Just watched last night's. Sharon is looking guilty as sin, I guess she could have been in on the attack but not the one that actually did it?

As if Jack and Callum would allowed to be on this case.

Not even a flinch from Kat when Phil said someone tried to kill Ian. There's absolutely no heart in the writing anymore.

At least we're getting more Kathy content.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 9th December 2020, 07:52 PM

If it is Sharon, it would be very out of character. We've seen time and time again Sharon likes to get revenge by hitting someone in the wallet not physically.

Having said that, with the state of the writing, it probably will be Sharon.

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th December 2020, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Oh Botchia! @ Dec 9 2020, 07:52 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 10th December 2020, 08:15 PM

She married him.

I actually can't believe what I just watched. This is such a character assassination on Sharon and what an absolute farce that Sharon has divorced and married on the same day. Is that even legal? What does it matter. Anything goes in EastEnders. Fuck realism. Fuck character.

Posted by: AdamG 10th December 2020, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 10 2020, 08:15 PM)

She married him.

I actually can't believe what I just watched. This is such a character assassination on Sharon and what an absolute farce that Sharon has divorced and married on the same day. Is that even legal? What does it matter. Anything goes in EastEnders. Fuck realism. Fuck character.

Posted by: Liаm 10th December 2020, 08:22 PM

I..... don't have words Like honestly what the actual christ is going on?!

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 10th December 2020, 09:38 PM

QUOTE(AdamG @ Dec 10 2020, 08:19 PM)

Posted by: lewistgreen 10th December 2020, 09:42 PM

PLEASE let there be some unexpected twist coming

Posted by: Joulupukki 10th December 2020, 10:09 PM

I've just watched this not so long ago, and I never laughed so much in my life, it took 3 attempts to put him down, in the pub, Tuesday at the hospital, and again in his hospital bed, than Bobby blurts out, "sorry dad I'm the one that hit you" What a mess. And I thought he was going on a 6 months break, by the looks of things they are attempting to kill him off.

Posted by: lewistgreen 11th December 2020, 12:17 AM

Barbara Windsor has died

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th December 2020, 12:40 AM

I'm really gutted by this, Barbara was such a national treasure and it feel like one of your own has died. It's been heartbreaking to see someone who was so full of life and adored showbiz deteriorate into an empty shell, thankfully she's at peace now.

Peggy is one of my all-time fave soap characters. Barbara was perfect in the role and was so watchable and charismatic. The show really misses someone like her.



I can recite this word for word.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th December 2020, 02:09 AM

Very iconic EastEnders character with so many great scenes loved the Pauline fowler head to head clip. It's a cruel disease like so many others, rip Barbara.

Posted by: T Boy 11th December 2020, 06:25 AM

RIP Barbara, Peggy was so iconic.

Last nights episode wasn’t iconic at all, not even in a so bad it’s good way. Total mess.

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th December 2020, 08:30 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Dec 11 2020, 06:25 AM)

Posted by: HarryBorelli 11th December 2020, 08:56 AM

Rip To Barbara, a icon of british culture, the queen vic will forever remain hers. 💔

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 11th December 2020, 10:16 AM

It really doesn't get more iconic than Peggy and that's down to Barbara (I mean, who remembers the original Peggy actress...). It's hard to think of another character that is so consistently quotable, memorable and synonymous with the show in the way Peggy / Barbara had become.

Looking back at some of those iconic moments in Liam's post really makes you miss having a character like Peggy in the show.

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th December 2020, 12:31 PM

Tonight's EastEnders has been moved to 9:05pm so that Babs, the 2017 BBC biopic, can be shown after The One Show.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 11th December 2020, 09:17 PM

The actor who plays Bobby is doing a brilliant job at the moment .

Posted by: LeGrinch 12th December 2020, 03:09 PM

I think Sharon is behind the attack tbh

Posted by: Sleighk ☃️ 13th December 2020, 04:31 PM

A few weeks ago I said I hoped it was Sharon who tried to kill Ian, or orchestrated it, because she's somehow found out about his involvement in Denny's death. I really hope that her marrying Ian so suddenly is all part of her revenge plan. (On that note, I have NEVER been so shocked by something in a soap! My mouth was WIDE OPEN when she married Ian!)

R.I.P to the lovely Barbara Windsor.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th December 2020, 09:30 PM

Ya it's really starting to look like Sharin is behind it.

Posted by: Jαsє 13th December 2020, 11:15 PM

Sharon's clearly behind the attack

The entire show is basically "omg who assaulted Ian" atm and does anybody give a shit?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2020, 07:34 PM

Jack, im not sure what i hate more that cream coat ir his constant pouting in every single episode, it grates the hell out of me.

Posted by: T Boy 14th December 2020, 09:11 PM

Ugh, don’t tease me with the prospect of Mick leaving. I should be so lucky.

Ian’s flashback of Ben only confirms to me that Ben didn’t do it.

Why haven’t they been able to make Peter likeable at any point in the past ten years?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2020, 10:40 PM

Peter Mick and Jack could all go for me.

Posted by: lewistgreen 14th December 2020, 10:52 PM

The STATE of this programme right now. What on earth is happening

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th December 2020, 08:11 PM

Posted by: troylovesmusic 15th December 2020, 08:13 PM

I think it was Sharon and Ben walked in on it and keeping quiet about it.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th December 2020, 09:29 PM

I can get my head around Stuart accidentally killing Calum's boss, although another death cover-up is really not what we need and there was already a decent story to be told with Stuart and Rainie without this sensationalism, but to play it as a comedy plot as well? This show really hasn't a clue. I really hope this doesn't put a shelf life on these characters.

Clunky reference to Lucas tonight; Denise was never that into religion before Lucas, it's why they had issues at the beginning of them getting back together. Not that I should expect this writing team to remember that. It was nice seeing the Trueman/Foxes back as a family, but it's hard to feel anything for them knowing where the show is going to take them. What could be a really touching story over Christmas regarding Denise doing her best to make Raymond feel at home is going to be spoiled by Lucas returning on Christmas Day and probably kidnapping Raymond.

Posted by: Liаm 15th December 2020, 09:49 PM

At the minute most episodes feel like they've picked a storyline out of a hat and have like 10 minutes to formulate it before submitting the episode, so they just roll with ANYTHING to get it done, absolute state.

Posted by: JosephCarey 15th December 2020, 09:54 PM

The Stuart and Rainie scene with the flashbacks and confessions was one of the ODDEST I've seen...! I'm somewhat interested in where it's going though I'm not sure that's because it's a good storyline...

I'm finding it really difficult to care about much in this show right now. Kim, Denise and Patrick were by far the highlight of tonight's episode. The rest of the past few weeks in particular has been absolutely ridiculous. Sharon marrying Ian MUST have a bigger pay-off coming? I can't stand Tina, and the Mick / Katy storyline is really not working for me, for weeks it's been coming across more like old friends than anything else.

I don't think the 20 minute run-time is helping, either? There's more action to cram into a shorter space of time, meaning the actual character-building moments seem to have gone out the window. I'm sure covid has impacted the production but, particularly now they've been back filming for months, they should be able to up the runtime again? Emmerdale and Corrie are operating on full capacity and that's with more weekly episodes...

Posted by: T Boy 15th December 2020, 09:56 PM

Ok I’m not really on board with Stuart being made a killer after all his development anyway but to make it a comedy plot with him and Rainie getting off on it is really straining things. They’re my favourite thing about the show at the moment but this has really tainted them and they won’t get away with it so I’m worried that’s it for them. And Thompson being dead also means they never really had any plans for an old police adversary of Phil’s to return so that was needlessly pointless speculation.

What on earth is going on with this show?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2020, 02:29 AM

The show is all over the place and everything seems rushed and plucked out of thin air.really expected the show to be in much better shape at this point after all change at the top. I do think Kat and phil are also gona get together at some point. I'm tired of even overload aswell.

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th December 2020, 03:07 AM

A member on Walford Web managed to get in contact with former executive producer Sean O'Connor through his agency and got some info on what his plans were had he stayed on:

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2020, 04:26 PM

Glad he went, he was terrible when in charge and that storyline also sounds terrible.

Posted by: T Boy 16th December 2020, 04:49 PM

How is it possible for all that to sound WORSE than what is happening right now?

I feel we need to take over the show as a forum. We’ll find a way to resurrect Abi.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 16th December 2020, 05:00 PM

I still cannot believe he axed AND killed off both Ronnie & Roxy, then Steven and then John Yorke only months later decided to kill off Abi. All in the space of 12 months.

All short-sighted deaths done purely for 'shock value' which have damaged the show long term.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2020, 07:15 PM

They were all very short sited axings that were of no benefit to the show at all.

Posted by: T Boy 16th December 2020, 07:31 PM

The fact that Ronnie and Roxy were killed off amongst bin problems and school bully storylines is one of the most offensive things EE ever did.

Posted by: LeGrinch 16th December 2020, 08:53 PM

Rosy and Ronnie being axed was a huge mistake and it’s cost them dearly

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2020, 09:40 PM

When Kate Oates was joining the team i honestly expected the show to be much much better at this point but its much the same, there has been some good stuff but there is no consistency and no big storyline that would get you over excited. I think Drunk Linda is the highlight of the show for a long time.

Posted by: Cameron 17th December 2020, 03:13 PM

What ever happened to Gaynor who worked in the salon as an extra for 100 years?

Posted by: T Boy 17th December 2020, 03:38 PM

She worked in the old salon and I can’t remember what happened to that?

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 17th December 2020, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Dec 17 2020, 03:38 PM)

Posted by: Cameron 17th December 2020, 04:42 PM

Sadie *.*

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th December 2020, 08:59 PM

Kathy to Ben: "you're one of the good ones"

As if the police wouldn't have seized the CCTV immediately.

Another death fake-out. Phil swinging a baseball bat around.

Tbf I am glad Stuart didn't end up killing DCI Thompson and it was refreshing if nothing else to see someone not intimidated by Phil.

Posted by: gooddelta 17th December 2020, 09:29 PM

The show is a mess but Suki is wonderful and the rounders quip made me laugh out loud

Posted by: T Boy 17th December 2020, 09:49 PM

Suki is carrying the show right now. I too am glad Thompson isn’t dead as all that on Tuesday was just too weird-but Stuart burned his clothes? So no one noticed a naked man breaking out of the undertakers? And none of the undertakers noticed they were carrying an empty coffin?

Posted by: LeGrinch 18th December 2020, 09:36 PM

Well they’ve ruined Linda now fs

Posted by: JosephCarey 18th December 2020, 09:44 PM

Kim is the only thing keeping me watching

Posted by: T Boy 18th December 2020, 09:58 PM

I’m not even mad at Linda for having an affair. Mick has been such an awful husband for so long, I’m surprised it’s taken this long.

Posted by: Jαsє 18th December 2020, 10:08 PM

Affair storylines should be banned in soaps. UGH.

Posted by: LeGrinch 19th December 2020, 12:21 PM

how could they want so much sympathy for one character not a lot of people even care about

Posted by: Liam.k. 19th December 2020, 03:46 PM

That Mick and Linda kiss was awful, they were clearly miles apart.

I see Karen is really distraught about spending her first Christmas without Chantelle.

Posted by: T Boy 19th December 2020, 03:52 PM

Literally no one has even noticed Chantelle is dead tbh.

Bernadette has probably died too tbh.

Posted by: Liam.k. 19th December 2020, 04:08 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Dec 19 2020, 03:52 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 19th December 2020, 04:22 PM

Are they really going to systematically ruin Linda's character just to give Mick yet MORE sympathy as if anybody cared about the anxiety, abuse or anything else he's faced?!

Posted by: T Boy 19th December 2020, 05:35 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Dec 19 2020, 04:22 PM)

Posted by: pippa 20th December 2020, 05:34 PM

As of yet, the death of Chantelle was totally pointless.
The Taylor's have had so little on screen time since she died.
Linda one of the best characters on the show and actresses is been destroyed for the sake of the awful Mick.

Posted by: Scene 21st December 2020, 12:02 AM

I was going to ask whether it is worth getting back into EE after drifting away from it since Chantelle's death... just reading this last page alone tells me not to bother. Is it really that bad and is there anything exciting happening over Christmas?

Posted by: T Boy 21st December 2020, 12:21 PM

Apparently on New Years Eve, Mick Contemplated suicide and phones Samaritans.

I will not be able to sit through this unless there is some sort of reflection about how his eldest son was feeling four years ago. I will simply be too angry otherwise.

Posted by: lewistgreen 21st December 2020, 06:20 PM

Good lord. I'm so close to stopping watching once again, this'll be the third time in so many years; I'm just hanging on with hope that something epic is planned for Christmas

Posted by: T Boy 21st December 2020, 09:34 PM

I jumped out my skin when Bernadette appeared, never expected to ever see her again. And some actual aftermath of Chantelle’s death, I started wondering if I was watching the right show.

The Ian storyline is hopeless though. It’s completely run out of steam and no one at all will be surprised when Sharon is revealed as the attacker on Christmas Day.

Posted by: LeGrinch 21st December 2020, 10:14 PM

Sharon and Phil will 100% be working together

Posted by: Liаm 21st December 2020, 11:17 PM

The only reason to watch is Suki to be honest, she steals the show in about 5 seconds no matter what she's doing but the rest of it is borderline excruciating, there's just nothing to care about or be invested in, anything that is happening is either deathly dull or predictable.

Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd December 2020, 05:14 PM

DOES NO-ONE CARE THAT ACTUAL GUNSHOTS WERE REPORTED?!

I suppose a gun gets waved around the square every other week so I shouldn't be too surprised by people's nonchalant reactions.

I see Karen was told to play sad in last night's episode (that 'sad walk' she did behind Billy and that extra was particularly unconvincing). No doubt she'll be cackling away in tonight's edition.

Posted by: T Boy 22nd December 2020, 05:18 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 22 2020, 05:14 PM)

Posted by: LeGrinch 22nd December 2020, 05:21 PM

we need an explosion to kill 90% of the square

Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd December 2020, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(LeGrinch @ Dec 22 2020, 05:21 PM)

Posted by: LeGrinch 22nd December 2020, 05:58 PM

They've really went out their way to try and make every character very annoying / unbearable haven't they? I'll honestly be surprised to see if they can pull ratings back to 7m+

Posted by: T Boy 22nd December 2020, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 22 2020, 05:25 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd December 2020, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(LeGrinch @ Dec 22 2020, 05:58 PM)

QUOTE(T Boy @ Dec 22 2020, 06:00 PM)

Posted by: Joulupukki 22nd December 2020, 07:13 PM

Maybe all the shows that has been screened so far since September its part of a dream sequence played out by Ian... Ian needs to wake up.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 23rd December 2020, 12:03 AM

Surely it has to be Sharon and Phil working together to get back at Ian ? no one else has a strong enough motive to actually kill him.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd December 2020, 08:38 AM

They’ve managed to rule out so many characters with those dodgy flashbacks. A flop whodunnit.

Posted by: pippa 24th December 2020, 01:39 AM

The whodunnit is a huge flop, very few care.
It has to be Phil and Sharon working together.

Posted by: T Boy 24th December 2020, 09:47 AM

HOLY SHIT Sonia is actually getting a storyline in 2021

Posted by: T Boy 24th December 2020, 10:10 PM

Omg I was really enjoying those old photos (awkward they couldn’t get a genuine one for Chantelle tho oops) until they did the ‘twist’ which came off pretty lame.

Seeing Abi again made the episode, I liked Ben raising his glass which was a nice touch. This Ben was never on screen with Abi but it still felt natural.

I’m sure Danny Dyer will eventually get an award for that ‘acting’.

And I’m relieved because I’m pretty sure Pearl hasn’t been recast but I’m amazed how big she is now.

Posted by: Jαsє 25th December 2020, 12:10 AM

Sharon's involvement in Ian's attack was surely confirmed with that look of utter hatred she gave him when he talked about his boys

I'm looking forward to seeing how things play out. EE are normally in a different league when it comes to their Christmas episodes so I'm trying to be optimistic!

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th December 2020, 02:18 AM

Probably the most decent episode for quite awhile, if only for the fact some things actually developed.

I don't understand the point of this Billy/Honey/Jay storyline though. What's it going to achieve? Honey and Jay are never going to be together; it seems inevitable she'll end up back with Billy and then there's always going to be this elephant in the room as far as Jay is concerned.

I actually enjoyed the scenes between Mick and Linda, but it's definitely all down to Kellie Bright's fantastic performance. It should never have gone down this affair route as an abuse storyline should be able to sell itself, but Kellie has done a great job in finding some sort of truth in this terrible writing and, as a result, I totally understood Linda's point of view. I don't believe she would fall for Max though; she's an intelligent woman and has lived on the square with him for years, she knows he talks the talk and convinces women into believing something is real when it's not. He's that good at it he even believes it himself.

The montage of old photos was much better than I was expecting it to be. They all looked quite natural, as if a character genuinely took them, even the official promo pics. Denise's reaction to Pat was a lovely touch and I'm quite shocked the team remembered she had anything to do with her. The twist was lame though. "Rip Ian Beale? Rip him a what?" Fuck off. Kim's not an idiot. Yay for Pearl though!

Finally, that choir was fucking awful.

P.S. Tina's gonna die.

Posted by: Joulupukki 25th December 2020, 09:48 AM

If I'm thinking correctly, with a flashback episode tonight its going to reveal some added scenes from the period when EE was off-air, which we could be seeing Dotty that would explain her absence. That scene last night with Ian talking about his boys, and Sharon's face really said it all and Phil is on it as well.

The only thing what I find odd why did Max buried that award if that was used to hit Ian with.

I think the producers need to axe Billy and Honey, there is nothing else they can add to the show, it seems they have passed their sell by date.

Posted by: T Boy 25th December 2020, 12:28 PM

The problem with the whodunnit is that Sharon was handed a massive motive right early on in the year and everyone else’s seem lame in comparison so it was never going to be anyone else.

Posted by: Liаm 25th December 2020, 09:08 PM

I know he's an iconic and original character and they'd never do it, but part of me wants them to go for a shock and ACTUALLY kill off Ian

Posted by: troylovesmusic 25th December 2020, 09:39 PM

*Pretends to be shocked*

Posted by: Liаm 25th December 2020, 09:47 PM

However shit the rest of it has been, I'm obsessed with camp mafia queen Sharon

Posted by: troylovesmusic 25th December 2020, 09:53 PM

I’m already enjoying this new Chelsea a lot more than the old one .

Posted by: LeGrinch 25th December 2020, 10:04 PM

Sharon was amazing!!!

I truly hope Ian dies tomorrow, it could help them grab attention but I have next to no hope!

Posted by: lewistgreen 25th December 2020, 10:06 PM

A decent episode, hopefully Chelsea and Lucas will reinvigorate things.
Are we really having another cancer storyline for Jean though?

I actually hope Ian gets the boot tomorrow

Posted by: Liаm 25th December 2020, 10:27 PM

The episode was actually thebest it's been in a while, not too much of the hammy whodunnit shit (which at least came to something good tonight with Sharon) they just managed to make it properly about Sharon and let her shine, plus bits of family drama and intertwinings which was great.

Posted by: Jαsє 25th December 2020, 10:37 PM

They normally always smash the Christmas episodes so I'm not surprised it was a good one tonight.

I've no idea how Ian will survive but he obviously will

If Jean's cancer is back, I assume she's leaving for good and they're going to go down the terminal cancer/her dying route? Which would be peculiar timing with Lacey Turner going on maternity leave again.

Posted by: Jαsє 25th December 2020, 10:46 PM

Oh and Diane Parish was brilliant tonight!

Posted by: Santa Haus 25th December 2020, 10:56 PM

The best episode in A G E S. It felt exciting and gripping to watch, which it hasn't in the entirety of 2020! The Denise / Slaters / Sharon storylines all worked brilliantly. Gray's scenes were chilling! Overall it had the right blend of what we want in a Christmas episode and I really hope the follow through in the coming episodes build on this excitement because I so badly want this show to be great again.

They need to bin Tina, the horrid primary school teacher, Stuart/Rainie, Mick/Linda and focus on the SOLID families like we saw today!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th December 2020, 11:04 PM

It was decent but not their best, with ian I just have zero sympathy for him and I dont think he carries these kinda scenes very well.

Posted by: T Boy 25th December 2020, 11:08 PM

I can totally see Tina dying the same way as Chantelle, the dishwasher scene was chilling.

Sharon really shone in that episode. It’s so good to see her actually behaving like she has a dead son and therefor some quite human moments from her. The only problem is that the story barely has any legs because I can’t see them killing off Ian. He’s due a break so we’ll see, I guess it could have been fake news to cover a permanent exit but after all these years I just can’t see Adam Woodyatt going.

The Fox/Trueman stuff was all great. It will take me a while to get used to the new Chelsea as she’s very different to the old one but this one is a much better actress.

I thunk Jean will just have a cancer scare tbh. It would be appalling timing for her to get a cancer diagnosis every single time Lacey’s due on maternity leave.

Posted by: Slade 25th December 2020, 11:19 PM

Eastenders always bringing me back for the Christmas episode - a tradition since 2005 really enjoyed it so hopefully the quality keeps up so I don't lose interest again

Posted by: troylovesmusic 25th December 2020, 11:26 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Dec 25 2020, 11:04 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 26th December 2020, 12:33 AM

Was I watching a totally different episode to the rest of you?

Angry doesn’t begin to cover it. Sharon is over. Ben is a joke. I can’t begin to go into it all.

Aww isn’t great that Karen has got over her dead daughter for Christmas? Bless.

Look at Kat laughing at Ian when she did the exact same thing two Christmases ago.

It says something that Ian is the most sympathetic character.

At least Denise and NuChelsea going head to head was good.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 26th December 2020, 02:23 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 26 2020, 12:33 AM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 26th December 2020, 07:26 AM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Dec 26 2020, 02:23 AM)

Posted by: T Boy 26th December 2020, 09:15 AM

I don’t think we’re supposed to be laughing at Ian though? That’s not the vibe I got last night. They quite accurately portrayed how Ian views the others in the square and vice versa. I don’t think we’re meant to be cheering Ben and Sharon on at all. People are on Sharon’s side because she’s still grieving, she suffered one of the biggest losses the show has ever seen earlier this year and it’s something no parent would be able to forgive especially not after less than a year. Sharon’s desire for revenge is a very human reaction. Her actions are OTT for soap drama reasons but her motive is fully understandable and literally better than ‘he ruined our surrogacy plans’, ‘he was mean about Mick’ or ‘he knows about my affair’.

Posted by: Liam.k. 26th December 2020, 09:41 AM

Sharon being motivated by grief would make reasonable sense if it was actually explored, but it wasn’t so it doesn’t count for much. Sharon is not a murderous person. I don’t recognise any of who Sharon is in the scenes played out last night, just an empty vessel doing things for the sake of plot. There was potentially a really interesting, tragic story to be told, seeing Sharon try to come to terms with her best friend being part of the chain of events that led to Dennis’ death, but they’ve neglected all that for sensationalism and Twitter “yasss queen” moments. How can Sharon want Ian dead but not Phil, despite Phil arguably being more responsible for Dennis’ death? It’s going to take a lot of work to recover from this but I have no faith at all that the show is going to explore Sharon’s motivations properly.

I keep thinking “this is what they killed Dennis off for”.

Posted by: Mack'sXmasSack 26th December 2020, 05:37 PM

3.54m oops,

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 26th December 2020, 05:38 PM

The killing off of characters rarely brings any long term good to the show, I think they kill off just for a sensational episode rather than long term benefits to the show, the killing off of lucy worked and did set up some great episodes but I think that's the last one that had long term impact.

Posted by: LeGrinch 26th December 2020, 08:59 PM

He survived ffs

Posted by: AdamG 26th December 2020, 09:11 PM

The death is gonna be Tina isn't it?

Posted by: T Boy 26th December 2020, 10:15 PM

Is it confirmed we’re getting a death? I haven’t been paying enough attention but I guess we do every year.

Certainly looks like Tina’s a goner which is a shame as she’s only just become interesting and that definitely should have tied her into the Chantelle story earlier on.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 27th December 2020, 12:17 AM

Looks like Tina is a goner and Gray is going to kill again!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2020, 02:58 AM

I hope she is, not a character I'd be happy to see back, hopefully Gray can kill her and a few others off before he's caught.

Posted by: Liam.k. 28th December 2020, 12:31 AM

If only Tina confronting Gray marked the end of this storyline, but no, Gray will either end up killing her and probably end up being a serial killer or, if Monday's episode is a new day, Tina will have disappeared and later be revealed to be help hostage in the basement. Regardless, it's another cruel, sensational twist and is why it means f*** all when the show release statements saying they've worked closely with charities and helplines.

Remember how refreshing it was when Ruby didn't want to be tied down by marriage and children?

I'm aware I've been pretty negative about the show recently, so here's a positive: Kathy looked nice.

Posted by: T Boy 28th December 2020, 10:05 AM

Ruby declaring she wants a baby almost confirms that she won’t have one.

Going down the serial killer route with Gray could be good. Lucas is inexplicably out of prison so maybe he’ll tie into the story somehow, people accusing him instead. I don’t know, but I think Tina does need to die. She’s a big enough character that her death will affect others but she’s not good enough a character to leave a gaping hole in the show like many that went before her. I think it’d be a lame cop out if they hinted at it and then Shirley receives a post card in 6 months saying sorry I’ve not been in touch, I’m living in the 1980s.

Posted by: pippa 28th December 2020, 08:12 PM

It looks very likely Gray will kill Tina.
Her death may help unite Muck and Linda as them getting back together is certain to happen.

Posted by: lewistgreen 28th December 2020, 09:02 PM

Oop. Sad to see her go I guess

Posted by: troylovesmusic 28th December 2020, 09:19 PM

Tina brought that on herself tbh she could have honestly prevented that from happening if she played it smarter . It is a shame to see her go that way considering she also had a history of domestic violence as well .

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th December 2020, 09:22 PM

Good episode tonight, I wont miss Tina but gray is going to be a serial killer now so he is sure to murder at least 1 more before the truth comes out.

Posted by: T Boy 28th December 2020, 09:30 PM

I’m glad we know she’s dead, I don’t have the energy for ambiguity in this story. I have a feeling we may be waiting until next Christmas for Gray to get his comeuppance. It may even be a storyline where I actually enjoy Mick again.

As for Tina, she was never really more than a supporting character. Every time they tried to give her a story it flopped-running over Janet, the whole weird Stuart thing. I do wish that she’d gotten involved in Gray’s story without the ridiculousness of her inclusion in the Ian whodunnit. She was a solid presence for 7 years and isn’t someone anyone would be begging to see back so that might have gotten the death right this time.

Not having her onscreen with Zsa Zsa is a missed opportunity but hey, maybe that’s a character that could return later down the line.

Posted by: AdamG 28th December 2020, 10:19 PM

This show really has lost the plot. Almost at switching off territory.

Posted by: Liam.k. 28th December 2020, 10:27 PM

Tina didn't look very dead to me, I'm guessing she's been held captive somewhere or was dumped and she'll reappear at some point. Still, this whole story development is a huge slap in the face to the domestic abuse victims the show claims to represent. Also, why do they keep giving Gray these awful monologues that he can't deliver with an inch of conviction. He can't even walk convincingly.

Posted by: Sausage Rollo 28th December 2020, 10:31 PM

I liked Tina as a character but I don't think I'll really miss her. I wonder how Gray managed to carry her body down the steps that lead to his house and into his car without anyone noticing.

Martin said he had four children. Hope and Bex are two of them but I can't think of any others or is he including Lily and Arthur as he helped to bring them up?

Posted by: T Boy 28th December 2020, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(Sausage Rollo @ Dec 28 2020, 10:31 PM)

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 28th December 2020, 11:21 PM

That wasn't a particularly surprising twist - why else would they have randomly lumped Shirley & Tina in at Gray's house? Also it was teased a while ago that there would be a serial killer storyline that begins to play out over Christmas that wasn't obvious at that stage.

I think I agree with T Boy that they've probably got the choice of death 'right' for once. Tina's not a legacy character or leading character but still a big enough presence to have an impact on the show and other characters.

Posted by: Liam.k. 29th December 2020, 12:26 AM

What sort of message does it send out though? Tina, a domestic abuse survivor, figures out that an abuser killed his wife, and is killed by said abuser? As I touched on before, the show makes all this noise about working with charities etc. for the sake of one episode, but I wonder what these charities would think about the aftermath? It's all been about Gray and his feelings, barely any coverage of the Taylors, and lots of sensational plot points. Also, death has become so overused and is a cheap way of getting very short-term drama that it genuinely means nothing to me anymore. It's also hard to see Gray as particularly bad when every other character on the show is just as morally corrupt.

Posted by: HarryBorelli 29th December 2020, 12:55 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 29 2020, 12:26 AM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th December 2020, 04:24 AM

Tina was more annoying than interesting throughout her time on the square, kling her off was the right move as she was far from a legacy character. I agree with the points about domestic abuse its not a good view to give out but most things on the show are wish washy these days.

Posted by: T Boy 29th December 2020, 07:32 AM

I knew this was the route they were going to go down when they killed Chantelle. Especially when there was no announcement of Gray leaving.

Posted by: Jay❄ 29th December 2020, 08:19 PM

Oops at this error in today's episode!

Posted by: Christmas WAPing 29th December 2020, 08:54 PM

OH FANNY ELL THEY JUST KILLED TINA!!! THEY JUST KILLED HER OFF!!! SHE WAS THE BEST CARTER!!!

Posted by: T Boy 29th December 2020, 09:24 PM

QUOTE(Christmas WAPing @ Dec 29 2020, 08:54 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 30th December 2020, 01:28 AM

https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/a35092871/eastenders-natalie-cassidy-taking-break-sonia-fowler/

A break? She’s barely appeared anyway? Looks like more budget issues.

Posted by: Liam.k. 30th December 2020, 05:08 AM

A watchable episode after a shocking couple but I guess that's what happens when you mainly focus on people who can act.

I don't understand why Chelsea is wanting to forgive and bond with Lucas and I'm even more at a loss as to how a serial killer, who was given a life sentence and escaped prison four years ago, has been released, but I did quite like the scenes with them at face value. Zaraah is doing a good job so far.

It's so good to see Patrick with something to finally do. He needs to be utilised so much more, he's fantastic in this paternal role and is one of the few grounded characters left.

Oh Ruby, what have they done to you?

Danny Dyer is very one-note, completely out of his depth with this sort of story.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 30th December 2020, 10:14 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 30 2020, 05:08 AM)

A watchable episode after a shocking couple but I guess that's what happens when you mainly focus on people who can act.

I don't understand why Chelsea is wanting to forgive and bond with Lucas and I'm even more at a loss as to how a serial killer, who was given a life sentence and escaped prison four years ago, has been released, but I did quite like the scenes with them at face value. Zaraah is doing a good job so far.

It's so good to see Patrick with something to finally do. He needs to be utilised so much more, he's fantastic in this paternal role and is one of the few grounded characters left.

Oh Ruby, what have they done to you?

Danny Dyer is very one-note, completely out of his depth with this sort of story.

Posted by: Mart!n 30th December 2020, 11:34 AM

I must admit EE is getting a bit heavy we have Sharon trying to kill Ian and failing badly, Gray been a abuser and a killer, Suki trying to bump people off as well by getting her son to do it, and Phil trying to be a hard nut and now we have Lucas.

If Gray is going to kill someone off again its got to be a female, the only person that could be next in line Whitney or Karen if she ever found out, as I can't see anyone else.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th December 2020, 09:02 PM

Id love if it was Whitney Gray went for next.

Posted by: lewistgreen 30th December 2020, 10:27 PM

Gray to take out Tracey in a shocking turn of events

Posted by: T Boy 31st December 2020, 09:03 AM

QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Dec 30 2020, 10:27 PM)

Gray to take out Tracey in a shocking turn of events

Posted by: Liam.k. 31st December 2020, 09:10 AM

Congrats to Nina Wadia on the OBE! #bringbackzainab

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 31st December 2020, 02:03 PM

QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Dec 30 2020, 10:27 PM)

Gray to take out Tracey in a shocking turn of events

Posted by: lewistgreen 31st December 2020, 07:56 PM

That was really really good. I'm glad they did something like that. I know it was Mick-heavy but it was needed to address how he's feeling. I loved seeing Lee again too, more of him please

Posted by: T Boy 31st December 2020, 09:44 PM

It was nice to see Lee again and have Mick indirectly address his depression from years ago-I would have liked more reflection about the way he reacted to Lee’s suicide attempt and general depression but I guess we can’t have it all.

But it really felt like a character assassination of Linda at the start tonight. She just wouldn’t behave like this. I still don’t like Mick as a character and I feel they should have done this storyline with a different character. But I suppose Danny Dyer can win his awards now.

Posted by: Christmas WAPing 31st December 2020, 09:45 PM

I hope Zainab comes back

Still can't get over Tina!!!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st January 2021, 02:30 PM

It was a very depressing episode last night I think they needed some mixture but I understand the message they were aiming to portray.

Posted by: T Boy 1st January 2021, 10:08 PM

That was pretty good, I actually really felt for Mick for a change. But absolutely no at the ‘just me and you, L, no police, let’s just forget about it’ there is surely more the come with this but I wouldn’t put it past the show right now to just drop the abuse storyline and just forget about it.

I’ve not been able to take Max seriously for a while and it’s never rung true that Linda has ever.

Rainie shouting at Callum down the phone was life giving.

Posted by: Liam.k. 2nd January 2021, 10:02 AM

My comments on NYE's episode:

That episode was actually really good in itself and could have been great if the rest of the storyline had been handled correctly. Danny Dyer did a good job as it felt like he actually tried and changed up his acting delivery. Seeing Lee again was a genius move as it added so much weight to the episode, knowing his history. It was great to see Mick finally have some sort of reflection on how he treated Lee and his depression. I feel like contextually he may have realised the parallels between Max/Linda and himself and Whitney and the effect that had on Lee, although it would have been better to see that explicitly mentioned and even better to see Mick admit all this to Lee himself.

I thought the flashbacks were done really well, proving that they work for special episodes and for effect rather than used all the time and with little care for whether they're needed. A great script from Simon Ashdown too. I really liked how it showed us what a Samaritans call is actually like, I think that could be really useful for people to hear, especially this time of year, whilst still being appropriate to the story.

The EastEnders set looks stunning at Christmas.

That glimpse of Sharon in the pub on NYE should have been really exciting but it just made me sad.

Posted by: Oh Botchia! 2nd January 2021, 12:02 PM

NYE and NYD have been the highlight of the festive period and of the Mick storyline. The affair really did cheapen it and you can feel that in the Mick & Linda scenes on NYD. The Mick & Katy scenes were very well done - I feel there's got to be more to come. We've still yet to bring Frankie into the mix!

Posted by: T Boy 2nd January 2021, 12:57 PM

Linda and Max have never been believable. In fact, given how Mick fell to pieces during Kellie’s maternity leave a few years ago, Mick and Linda’s relationship has been poorly written for some time and there seems to be an emphasis on the fact that they can’t function unless they’re having loads of sex.

New Years episodes have been better than Christmas episodes for a good few years now.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 2nd January 2021, 01:58 PM

Much better than christmas day but I agree the Linda and max affair is totally unbelievable and cheapened the story but Kellie was brilliant in her scenes last night. She is a fantastic actress and with big scenes she really shows how poor Danny is. Danny is fine in lighter scenes but struggles with big scenes where Kellie thrives. I'm still thinking we are gona see phil and kat get together.

Posted by: JosephStyles 2nd January 2021, 05:34 PM

I've really disliked the Mick and Katy storyline and was not excited by the prospect of them dominating last night's episode, but I was pleasantly surprised. Kellie was particularly fantastic and even Danny stepped his game up, their scenes together were the best either character has been in a long time. The past week has given me hope for this show again after being at my wit's end...!

Posted by: Mart!n 4th January 2021, 08:01 PM

Tonight's episode starts at 8:35pm

Posted by: Liam.k. 4th January 2021, 08:02 PM

At least EastEnders might get good ratings tonight!

Posted by: T Boy 4th January 2021, 09:54 PM

Phil and Sharon are not going to kill Ian. Why are they dragging this out?

Ian did have a cheek though, Sonia just back from an 18 hour shift and he’s popping round for special medical treatment.

Posted by: Botchia 4th January 2021, 10:37 PM

Sonia *.* Stole the show in her 2 mins of screen time

Posted by: Liam.k. 5th January 2021, 03:38 PM

I feel like Sonia's scenes last night would have been much more impactful if she hadn't been off-screen for weeks and we had seen the pressure of her job building up.

I'm guessing we're not going to get any aftermath with Mick despite him nearly killing himself and realising he was abused?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 5th January 2021, 03:47 PM

What’s wrong with Sonia I was confused ?

Posted by: T Boy 5th January 2021, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Jan 5 2021, 03:47 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 5th January 2021, 06:53 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jan 5 2021, 06:41 PM)

Posted by: Santa Haus 5th January 2021, 09:07 PM

I like how they have introduced the Sonia storyline because it really does need exposure but... it would have more weight behind it if literally anyone in the character rosta actually upheld social distancing/masks/any of the Covid restrictions. Odd that they are bringing Covid to the limelight and yet no characters are acting as if there is a pandemic at all!

Posted by: T Boy 5th January 2021, 09:36 PM

And what’s worse, they haven’t even given Sonia’s story enough respect to continue it in the very next episode!

Posted by: T Boy 7th January 2021, 09:34 PM

Omg Patrick cannot die.

This Sharon stuff is ridiculous. It was fun for a camp Christmas reveal but now she’s swiping Jean’s medication?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th January 2021, 01:49 AM

Ya the sharon stuff isnt working at all, I just want that storyline wrapped up asap.

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th January 2021, 01:33 PM

I don't know how Steve McFadden managed to get through the line "why would I threaten the woman raising my kid".

The only positive I get out of this Ian/Sharon mess is the thought of Kathy slaying in the reveal. She's one of the only real characters left in the show.

Chelsea is so playing Lucas, which helps make a bit more sense out of the story.

Nice to see Jean again. Can we get some follow up on her cancer scare?

Typical the only time they give Sonia a storyline is when it's for her a temporary exit due to budget issues.

Rudolph Walker is fantastic. I can't wait for the follow up to what happened to Patrick in six months time.

Posted by: T Boy 8th January 2021, 01:45 PM

Shit, I forgot about the cancer scare. This is so poor right now.

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th January 2021, 01:48 PM

It was genuinely my highlight of the Christmas Day episode so it's typical it's just been forgotten about. That really does show a lack of care in storylining.

Posted by: TalkAboutWall 8th January 2021, 01:50 PM

I used to like Ruby too

I've never seen a show in six months that's made almost all their likeable characters unlikeable.

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th January 2021, 01:52 PM

QUOTE(TalkAboutWall @ Jan 8 2021, 01:50 PM)

I used to like Ruby too

I've never seen a show in six months that's made almost all their likeable characters unlikeable.

Posted by: T Boy 8th January 2021, 02:30 PM

I just don’t see the point of bringing Ruby back if this is what they were going to do with her. What she really needed was stories outside of Martin and Stacey.

Posted by: lewistgreen 8th January 2021, 08:11 PM

QUEEN FRANKIE

Posted by: T Boy 8th January 2021, 09:27 PM

Nice to see Chelsea isn’t just thick as pig shit, I wonder who she was talking to-Jordan?

What was the point of even writing Sonia an exit plot when you rush it in 3 episodes. Given her recent screen time, we wouldn’t have even noticed if she wasn’t there.

Posted by: Mart!n 11th January 2021, 08:16 PM

Mo's eyebrows

Posted by: lewistgreen 11th January 2021, 08:46 PM

Dark and arched keeps them parched

Posted by: T Boy 11th January 2021, 09:24 PM

Jean’s eyebrows looked ok actually but Mo

Actually liked seeing Dotty again for the few seconds she was on screen.

I’m now convinced there’s nothing wrong with Jean.

Posted by: T Boy 12th January 2021, 09:33 PM

I need more scenes of Jean hanging out with the youngsters.

I really like Ben when he’s in scenes with Frankie. It’s like the only time he doesn’t come across as a selfish arse.

Posted by: Santa Haus 12th January 2021, 09:59 PM

S U K I "want to see how well I use my mouth" !!

Posted by: Auld Lang Wang 12th January 2021, 10:00 PM

This id now half as big a soap as Emmerdale Farm!!! Not long before combined Hollyoaks C4/E4 takes over.

Posted by: Liam.k. 12th January 2021, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Santa Haus @ Jan 12 2021, 09:59 PM)

Posted by: Santa Haus 12th January 2021, 10:14 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Jan 12 2021, 10:07 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 12th January 2021, 10:18 PM

Are they drafting Suki in for a last attempt to make Peter’s scenes interesting?

Posted by: pippa 13th January 2021, 01:27 AM

That is what they appear to be trying with focus on the word trying.
It appears very little planning was put into Peters return.
Do they do workshops any more to develop characters before casting.

Posted by: lewistgreen 13th January 2021, 06:17 PM

BE MORE JEAN

Posted by: T Boy 14th January 2021, 08:29 AM

I would be we get arrested if we go to parties.

Posted by: T Boy 14th January 2021, 09:51 PM

Ok maybe Jean really is leaving.

Posted by: lewistgreen 14th January 2021, 11:27 PM

Could we possibly get some more of Mila away from The Albert? Feel like she holds more potential than just serving drinks and calling people cute

Posted by: T Boy 15th January 2021, 07:57 AM

Hopefully we’ll see more of her and Iqra. If they don’t just drop Iqra of course. Now there’s a character who needs more screen time.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th January 2021, 07:14 PM

Heavily rumoured that Tiffany is leaving. Not surprised, they've really wasted her this past year and after Strictly I'm not surprised she wants to spread her wings so to speak.

Posted by: TalkAboutWall 15th January 2021, 07:38 PM

can the partner of that person join

how do i not know how to spoiler omg

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th January 2021, 07:42 PM

You spoil everything x

Posted by: pippa 17th January 2021, 05:19 PM

I fear Jeans storyline could lead to a permanent exit which I do not want to happen.

Posted by: T Boy 19th January 2021, 09:51 PM

Ok, where to even start?

Mick, being a dad is not the one thing you’re good at, you cold shoulder them all the minute they can’t live up to your expectations. If Frankie’s mum wasn’t a million times worse, I’d tell her to run a mile in the opposite direction.

What happened to that conscience Phil suddenly developed on Christmas Day? And why can’t he remember that he was the one who sunk the boat in the first place? Why can’t Sharon remember that? How can she go from calling it off one day to going more extreme within minutes?

Wtf is going on?

Posted by: T Boy 21st January 2021, 09:48 PM

Iqra had a lot of screen time tonight-why does make me think she will be gone by this time next week?

Posted by: Mart!n 22nd January 2021, 09:16 PM

That left a horrible taste in my mouth in the end bit sickening to watch...

Love to know, how Max is going to get his money back now, got a feeling Phil has got something to do with his exit.

Posted by: T Boy 22nd January 2021, 09:58 PM

Well thank goodness Sharon is such a fail murderer. So we won’t be seeing Ian for a while, I’m guessing people are still going to think she killed him.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th January 2021, 06:00 PM

It was a disappointing conclusion that was all out of sync with the character. They just seem to all very un thoughout storylines lacking any real punches.

Posted by: T Boy 25th January 2021, 09:18 PM

This abuse storyline gets more harrowing every episode but it’s actually got me liking Mick again.

Lexi is such a legend you just know they’ll kill her off before time.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th January 2021, 11:00 PM

Its def a harrowing storyline and I like the direction it's going in, it's an awful story but I think they are doing it well on the show.

Posted by: Among Haus 29th January 2021, 07:13 PM

I don't know if it's just the mood I was in yesterday, but I found the episode really adorable The ending in particular warmed my heart considerably. The show having a totally positive ending is such a rare sight but it was so great to see! I am sure the show will be back in the shitter from tonight but yeah, it was a great moment in my opinion.

Posted by: T Boy 29th January 2021, 10:02 PM

I’m not into the relationship at all though. Yes, it was sweet but in a week or so we’ll be back to emotional abuse.

I don’t buy that Jordan is dead nor do I buy that Denise under any circumstances would want Lucas back in the square. Patrick being so for it is one of the most unrealistic things they’ve ever done.

And I don’t think I can sit through Whitney pining for another unsuitable relationship.

Posted by: pippa 30th January 2021, 10:09 PM

Whitney in another relationship doomed to end in disaster I am not wanting to see.
Jay and Honey, so far the writers are handling it good.

Posted by: T Boy 30th January 2021, 10:19 PM

I’m not sure on Jay and Honey. Where exactly can they go with it except for loads of Billy angst?

Posted by: Slick 31st January 2021, 12:02 PM

I LOVE seeing happy gays on telly (and irl, obv) so I really enjoyed the Ballum joint proposal. It felt like a big moment, although who knows what will happen when Callum is hiding so much from Ben!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st February 2021, 03:35 AM

Last weeks episodes were good all round and prob the best consecutive episodes in a while.

Posted by: lewistgreen 1st February 2021, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Feb 1 2021, 03:35 AM)

Posted by: T Boy 1st February 2021, 09:06 PM

The price of those nuggets! Bianca’s kids would have starved!

Dotty’s face when Max told everyone about Sharon was everything. Use her more.

Posted by: pippa 3rd February 2021, 05:57 PM

I have mixed feelings on Dotty, Whitney I could slap, she simply never learns from her mistakes and there is zero character development with her for years.

Posted by: Liаm 3rd February 2021, 08:42 PM

I saw someone tweet that Whitney graduated from the Ronnie Mitchell school of misery and that is just so accurate Her character hasn't gone anywhere since... easily before Lee? How has she had SO much happen with so many storylines thrown at her, yet has gone nowhere as a character.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd February 2021, 08:45 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 3 2021, 08:42 PM)

I saw someone tweet that Whitney graduated from the Ronnie Mitchell school of misery and that is just so accurate Her character hasn't gone anywhere since... easily before Lee? How has she had SO much happen with so many storylines thrown at her, yet has gone nowhere as a character.

Posted by: Liаm 3rd February 2021, 08:55 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 3 2021, 08:45 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 3rd February 2021, 09:01 PM

Could be worse. Still looking for a good Billy or Jack storyline.

Posted by: T Boy 4th February 2021, 06:05 PM

So apparently they’re killing off Gavin Sullivan off screen. I approve of this.

Posted by: lewistgreen 4th February 2021, 08:28 PM

Oops I thought he died already, shows how much of an impact his non-story had.

Another really strong episode tonight, that scene with Denise and Lucas in his flat was intense! Eager to see tomorrow now.

Also LIVING for Mick and Linda throwing around a few words so Phil and Sharon are quaking about Tina just like that.

Posted by: T Boy 4th February 2021, 09:45 PM

I actually thought the Lucas and Denise scene was slightly let down but the effects, which seems to be a common problem these days. I don’t really need all these effects and techniques to tell me how to feel during scenes like that when you’ve got two highly competent actors that can do it on their own.

Posted by: T Boy 5th February 2021, 08:02 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 4 2021, 06:05 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 7th February 2021, 06:30 AM

Big Mo has been axed.

Posted by: lewistgreen 7th February 2021, 07:44 AM

Sad news an extremely underused character. I know she has mainly been there to provide comedy relief, but when given the right stuff she shines.

Posted by: T Boy 7th February 2021, 09:50 AM

You kind of feel why? She does what she’s there for. I won’t miss her hugely but I don’t really see the need to get rid.

I think there’s clearly some budget restraints right now.

Posted by: Dill Doe 7th February 2021, 05:12 PM

I read she had quit?? This is AWFUL. They WILL kill her off, and she is the heart of EE!! This is Pat all over again.

Posted by: T Boy 7th February 2021, 05:29 PM

Omg she has never been the heart of EE!

Posted by: Dill Doe 7th February 2021, 09:57 PM

Is she or is she not the heart of the Slaters AND of the show's comedy?! That makes her the true heart of the show.

Posted by: Botchia 7th February 2021, 10:24 PM

The true heart of the show

She's always been a background, comedy character :')

Posted by: T Boy 7th February 2021, 10:30 PM

She’s sidelined completely amongst the Slaters who are pretty sidelined in general. I mean, what happened to Jean’s storyline?

Posted by: Dill Doe 7th February 2021, 10:42 PM

They are the backbone of that show. It'a not mt fault the hack producers don't see it.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th February 2021, 04:35 PM

The Slaters are all over the place for a while now, and with Stacey leaving again they will be sidelined further, im sure Jeans storyline has to be revisited soon, i do think they need to build the Slaters up again as a family, Belinda as a character always had way more potential i thought, bring her back, even as a recast and maybe the same with Lynn, i cant see Little Mo returning, im sure Jean also has some more brothers or sisters, nieces/nephews they could introduce.

Posted by: T Boy 8th February 2021, 06:46 PM

The Slaters are, quite frankly, a mess right now which makes me wonder why bother getting rid of Mo. Every woman in that household is a legend but under-utilised. Lacey has just given birth again so Stacey will be off again soon but both she and Kat are underused and basically have too many young children between them. The Kat and Kush pairing was ok but naff and I couldn’t take her seriously the other week when she got all emotional about everything. Stacey/Martin/Ruby is exhausting and not doing favours for any of the characters involved. Stacey’s last exit was so appalling I’m almost dreading what they come up with this time. Jean is the only constant good thing coming out of the family right now but even though she’s got one of the most interesting storylines on the go, she disappears for episodes at a time so it’s easy to forget.

I can’t help but wonder why they never gave Kat and Alfie some offscreen kids between 2005 and 2010. They’d be teenagers now and giving Kat some proper material. I also wonder this about Martin and Sonia from when they were offscreen. Sonia’s 35 and her parenting days are truly behind her and she never even seems interested in finding a new man or woman even if she doesn’t want more kids.

Posted by: JosephStyles 8th February 2021, 07:05 PM

I think Mo being axed highlights the difference between EastEnders and Corrie really - some Corrie characters are there more for comedy purposes than dramatic storylines and Mo would fit that bill as far as the Slaters go. She's not the most essential character going but I enjoy her scenes and she brings a ray of light into a show that's often very doom and gloom.

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head with your Slater analysis, T Boy! Underused and too many kids is spot on and it's a huge waste, particularly, of Jessie and Lacey's talent. Jean gets good storylines but I'd honestly have completely forgotten her current storyline if it weren't for this forum, the long gaps between her appearances are truly baffling?

I'm not really sure what went SO wrong for this show but beyond the occasional episode, I'm finding it a tough watch these days. The Fox / Trueman clan are by far the most watchable (minus Isaac who serves no purpose beyond bringing the mood down) and, credit where it's due, the Mick storyline has really improved since the affair ended and Frankie was brought back in. It's felt a lot more real and the sensationalism has gone. That aside, all I'm seeing are good characters getting no storylines and legends being handed the most ridiculous, unbelievable material.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2021, 09:57 PM

NANCY!!! is coming back - really happy about that one!!

Posted by: T Boy 8th February 2021, 09:57 PM

And just like that, Mo was great today, in her element. I do think they must be seriously tightening their belts at the moment.

Abi Junior is awesome but I guess she may leave soon too? Abi the first should never have been killed off.

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th February 2021, 10:00 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 8 2021, 09:57 PM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th February 2021, 10:51 PM

I think Eastenders need to hold onto their older cast members as they have very few elderly characters which for me was something they used to do very well years ago. I really dont think Jon Sen is the right person for the exec job as so many characters are under utilized. I understand Covid is casuing issues where they have to limit people on set etc but this was an issue before covid. The recent Ian and Sharon storyline was just a mess and by the looks of things, Max who was a brilliant character for many years is getting a wet blanket exit. The Ruby, Martin and Stacey storyline is also a wet blanket, im assuming the plan was it would lead to Martin and Stacey getting back together but Laceys pregnancy has thrown that so how they are going to go with it now is hard to call.

The Denise and Lucas stuff is very good and the recent mick storyline was also really good although i really wish they left out the max and linda affair, Chantelles exit is still a bugbear as it remains terrible and no one seems to barely even miss her.

Posted by: T Boy 9th February 2021, 07:38 AM

That return doesn’t excite me too much unless the character has grown during their time away. They were always a tad too judgemental of everyone.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th February 2021, 01:42 PM

I have to say the same about the returnee, im not hugely excited for the character directly but might from a family perspective.

Posted by: T Boy 10th February 2021, 10:41 PM

I think it at least twice a day but they never should have killed Abi off.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 10th February 2021, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 10 2021, 10:41 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 11th February 2021, 08:23 AM

Controversially, I disagree with some of those. Pat had a good send off and would only have lead to diminishing returns. It was possibly too soon but it was well executed. Mel is a character I love but with Tamzin leaving and very unlikely to come back, it made sense for her to go out with a bang and die. Roxy I feel was a massive mistake and possibly Ronnie though she she was pretty much done as a character. Roxy had loads to explore.

Biggest mistakes in the last decade for me are Abi, Roxy, Steven and, it seems, Denny.

Posted by: T Boy 12th February 2021, 09:58 PM

I’m not sure if I never knew the boat trip was supposed to have been on Valentine’s Day or that I just forgot. It feels like tonight was a week ahead of itself.

Did serve to remind me that I was in the Lake District for the anniversary week last year and half term is upon me again and I can’t do anything that fun.

Posted by: lewistgreen 13th February 2021, 02:15 PM

Hard to believe it has been a year since the boat crash really!

Posted by: T Boy 15th February 2021, 09:45 PM

NOT Kat trying to upstage Abi in the sexy mechanic stakes!

Do you know what, I’m all for Phil and Kat if it closes the door on Phil and Sharon. Sharon needs a fresh character as a love interest not old ground.

Posted by: T Boy 15th February 2021, 09:48 PM

And Omg they have cast Sonia’s dad!

The story hasn’t been forgotten!

Posted by: Botchia 15th February 2021, 10:07 PM

Kat & Phil is bizarre but I'm here for it.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th February 2021, 10:07 PM

Thats no surprise and i liked them together in the robbery scenes i thought they had on screen chemistry.

Posted by: T Boy 16th February 2021, 09:19 PM

They did not just give Jean significant screen time and then not advance her story at all. Not even a hint of it.

New Peter is awful.

I love seeing Iqra in a proper storyline but why do I feel like it’s just leading to an exit?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 18th February 2021, 02:30 AM

Ya I feel its heading to an Iqra exit aswell, i cant say i would miss her though as i find her forgettable.

Posted by: lewistgreen 18th February 2021, 07:26 PM

Can we just have all the Masoods back please? Iqra can stay too then. There's no way they're keeping her locked up in that massive house on her own for much longer

Also we're getting a new character imminently called Zack Hudson played by James Farrar. Not much is known about him other than he's a "lone wolf" which means he's going to be someone's long lost relative

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2021, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Feb 18 2021, 07:26 PM)

Can we just have all the Masoods back please? Iqra can stay too then. There's no way they're keeping her locked up in that massive house on her own for much longer

Also we're getting a new character imminently called Zack Hudson played by James Farrar. Not much is known about him other than he's a "lone wolf" which means he's going to be someone's long lost relative

Posted by: King Rollo 18th February 2021, 08:05 PM

I've noticed the Queen Vic is a bit understaffed. Sharon and Tracey seem to be the only ones working behind the bar.

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2021, 09:59 PM

I don’t know where this duo of Sharon and Jean came from but I’m living for it.

A bit dopey of Max to hand that memory stick to Phil before anything has been signed or anything.

‘Now if you don’t mind, I’ve got chocolate to eat’ is how I’m going to exit every room for at least the rest of 2021.

Posted by: Botchia 18th February 2021, 10:04 PM

QUOTE(King Rollo @ Feb 18 2021, 08:05 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2021, 10:07 PM

I agree, it’s been years since we had lots of regulars working behind the bar. With the Carters they had a big family so they didn’t need to employ anyone bar Tracey but it’s odd Sharon hasn’t hired anyone else. Mick, Kat, Stacey and Whitney all have experience behind the bar and I can’t really see any of them turning away the work if it was offered.

Posted by: T Boy 19th February 2021, 10:06 PM

Abi Jnr stealing the show tonight. I’m so glad she gets to stay with Rainie.

Surely we’re not really looking at the Carter’s back in the Vic? I don’t think I can be bothered with that.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 20th February 2021, 01:03 AM

Quite a good ending for Max . I think it was time for him to go as his character had run it’s course but he really was a legendary Eastenders character that can’t be denied !

Posted by: Dot Branning 20th February 2021, 01:05 AM

Loathe Max.

Always have.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 20th February 2021, 02:03 AM

Max had run his course but i loved alot of his stuff through the years, he is a character that could work again after a break.

Posted by: Liam.k. 21st February 2021, 01:52 PM

Posted by: T Boy 21st February 2021, 06:19 PM

I’m not surprised they tried to get Kathy back multiple times. Not sure it would have been good under Kirkwood though.

Posted by: Botchia 21st February 2021, 06:37 PM

I'm glad it didn't happen sooner - it was such a TV moment when Kathy stepped out of the cab with no warning on the 30th anniversary episode.

Posted by: Liam.k. 21st February 2021, 09:43 PM

I know the story goes that Tony Jordan had a fight with Gillian's husband so Kathy was killed off in retaliation (lol) but a writer, even one that had been with the show as long as Tony, would not have that much power. What probably happened is Gillian was offered to come back at the same time Ben was reintroduced in 2006 but she was too busy with Footballer's Wives and EastEnders thought the only way to stick with their storyline plans was to kill the character off. John Yorke, who I'm sure was a BBC boss at the time, since said it was the show's biggest mistake.

Obviously it had to be an off-screen death but what we got was such a non-event. The only thing I can remember is a rushed scene squeezed into the end of an episode where Jane tells Ian "Kathy's dead" - so deadpan it could give "Oh no. Poor Libby." in Neighbours a run for its money. It wouldn't surprise me if this was one of the many things that lead to Wendy Richard's decision to leave the show.

I remember reading that Diederick Santer toyed with bringing her back but decided against it (shame as he would probably have been the best in terms of storylining it). Interesting to hear Bryan did too but makes sense knowing one of the first things he must have done when returning to Hollyoaks was create a character for Gillian and a whole family for her. You definitely got the sense that EastEnders would have been kicking themselves seeing Gillian in a matriarchal role like that. I think we all realised Gillian dropped Hollyoaks for EastEnders - she definitely wasn't going to let that opportunity slip for a second time!

Posted by: Liam.k. 21st February 2021, 09:44 PM

Also I liked her response to what she would have done had she been the agent of Rita Simons or Samantha Womback in response to their characters being killed off. She seems like a real gutsy woman, has she ever considered running for EastEnders executive producer haha? I think the show desperately needs someone like her in charge.

Posted by: Mart!n 22nd February 2021, 04:13 PM

PM addressing the Nation tonight at 7pm, EE could be pushed back a bit.

Posted by: lewistgreen 22nd February 2021, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 22 2021, 04:13 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 22nd February 2021, 07:02 PM

Given that everyone already knows everything he’s going to say, I don’t know why they’re even bothering.

Posted by: Dill Doe 22nd February 2021, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(Dot Branning @ Feb 20 2021, 02:05 AM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd February 2021, 07:37 PM

These producers certainly don't love him given he's had sod all to do since 2017 and was axed from the show.

Posted by: T Boy 22nd February 2021, 10:01 PM

So Sharon really is leaving the Vic? For the Carters? Ok then

I don’t know why Bobby’s so bothered. A night in watching the with Kathy is way more appealing than spending any time with Peter. Who was not arsed at all that Ash could lose her job.

Posted by: lewistgreen 23rd February 2021, 09:07 AM

Yeah this Peter is actually REALLY irritating and a prime example of "nice to look at" but not a likeable person at all. I don't know if that's their intention now with him but he can leave tbh; he's been back for a year now and made zero impact.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd February 2021, 09:55 AM

I don't think it's intentional as much as they just cba fleshing out the character again

Posted by: Botchia 23rd February 2021, 10:44 AM

I'm really not here for them putting the Carters back in the Vic so quickly. It pays dust to Linda's alcoholism storyline and Mick & Linda have already had nearly 7 years, which is I think the longest uninterrupted run in running the Vic than anyone else.

I don't think Sharon is right either - it needs a family unit and Sharon on her own does feel empty.

Posted by: lewistgreen 23rd February 2021, 12:15 PM

Yeah I was quite surprised at Mick and Linda wanting the Vic back, like the reason they left and sold it was because of Linda but she's all fine now? Okay then

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 23rd February 2021, 09:17 PM

I think they should use the opportunity to bring in a new family to run the vic just like they did with the Carters, Sharon doesnt fit there anymore and the Carters have run there course with the Vic.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 23rd February 2021, 10:03 PM

I feel like I must of either blinked and missed it or I just can’t remember when and how Kat and Kush broke up ? Now Kat and Phil have a thing and Kush and Whitney have a thing how they move on fast .

Posted by: T Boy 23rd February 2021, 10:07 PM

What on Earth are they doing to Ruby?

As for the Carters, they were only good in the Vic for a year or two tops. This undermines the reason they left which was to help Linda with her recovery. Now they’re going back just to cheer Mick up? It highlights actually how toxic their relationship is. Mick is always more important than Linda and Linda’s problems are only tackled once they’ve become an issue for Mick. I was beginning to come round to them as a couple again last month but this just undoes most of that.

Sharon on her own doesn’t work either and I’m hoping this is the end of her and Phil. Just give her a new love interest with some kids and that could make it better. But I don’t know if they can afford new characters hence no new family in the Vic. At the very least, Sharon could hire Mick and Kat as bar staff to help liven the place up.

Posted by: lewistgreen 23rd February 2021, 10:08 PM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Feb 23 2021, 10:03 PM)

I feel like I must of either blinked and missed it or I just can’t remember when and how Kat and Kush broke up ? Now Kat and Phil have a thing and Kush and Whitney have a thing how they move on fast .

Posted by: T Boy 23rd February 2021, 10:09 PM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Feb 23 2021, 10:03 PM)

I feel like I must of either blinked and missed it or I just can’t remember when and how Kat and Kush broke up ? Now Kat and Phil have a thing and Kush and Whitney have a thing how they move on fast .

Posted by: Liam.k. 23rd February 2021, 10:25 PM

I hear the criticism for the Carters returning to the Vic and lord knows I was so over them being in there by the end, but I do think they're the best choice out of the current cast to be there. I certainty would not trust the current producers to create a new family for the Vic. The Carters, despite the many issues with their recent storyline, are in the best position they've been in for years and I think they'll give the Vic what it needs, especially with Nancy coming back and Lee probably not far behind. They've definitely proved that they don't need the Vic, it's more of a case that the Vic needs them.

Regarding Linda's alcoholism, at least they have acknowledged this issue on screen and I dare say they'll explore it properly when they get it back. Still, if Phil was in there for years and Sharon could deal with being there despite her father being murdered and buried there...

I'd have loved Sharon to have worked as landlady again but the writing has been atrocious. We've barely seen her work there, there's no staff, the atmosphere is dead and she certainly doesn't deserve the Vic after the hatchet job to her character.

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 23 2021, 10:09 PM)

Posted by: lewistgreen 23rd February 2021, 10:30 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 23 2021, 10:25 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 25th February 2021, 10:07 PM

A baby wasn’t the right thing for Ruby anyway but what are they doing with her? If they keep making her do this bizarre stuff, it’ll be harder for her character to recover.

Posted by: Mack. 25th February 2021, 10:56 PM

Sharon and Kheerat, possible couple?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 25th February 2021, 11:43 PM

I kind of liked Stacey and Kheerat together . I sensed a bit of a spark there when they had there one night stand but it probably won’t be too long until Stacey is eventually back with Martin.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 26th February 2021, 02:37 AM

Liam K I do agree with your post about the Carters, right now they are the best for The Vic from the current cast and I'd like them to explore more of Linda's family although the people running show would not be the best at all introducing and building new characters.

Posted by: T Boy 26th February 2021, 08:43 AM

I forgot about Stacey and Kheerat. It’s seems the show has too. They were pretty good together but I guess they’re stuck until Lacey’s back full time.

Posted by: darrens94 26th February 2021, 03:34 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 23 2021, 10:09 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 26th February 2021, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(darrens94 @ Feb 26 2021, 03:34 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 27th February 2021, 04:39 PM

Posted by: lewistgreen 27th February 2021, 04:51 PM

This and the bin collection stories were LIT

Posted by: T Boy 27th February 2021, 06:01 PM

Denise’s GCSE needs to return tbh.

And her pasta.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th February 2021, 02:40 AM

Some of the recent episodes by simon ashdown have been really enjoyable I have to say, I wish they had more writers like him on board.

Posted by: T Boy 1st March 2021, 07:35 AM

Who Shot Phil? started 20 years ago today

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st March 2021, 02:47 PM

It was a great build up to the whodunnit and it was huge ratings success for them.

Posted by: Liam.k. 1st March 2021, 02:53 PM

Remember how they pushed the football back because it would clash with the 'Who Shot Phil?' reveal? Nowadays, EastEnders is pushed from pillar to post for seemingly no good reason.

Posted by: T Boy 1st March 2021, 04:33 PM

I remember it all so vividly. Such a great time for EE-Phil getting shot, Mel/Steve wedding, Kat Slater and Anthony Trueman, Dot and Jim. So many iconic characters at once.

Posted by: T Boy 1st March 2021, 09:51 PM

f*** sake what is all that faux gangster crap? Dreadful episode.

Posted by: Botchia 1st March 2021, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 1 2021, 09:51 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 1st March 2021, 09:55 PM

QUOTE(Botchia @ Mar 1 2021, 09:54 PM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st March 2021, 11:30 PM

Im finding the family as a whole boring and im not feeling the love for their mother like many others do.

Posted by: T Boy 2nd March 2021, 08:51 AM

I actually like the Panesars, I just don’t think this is what they should be doing with them. They also need to stop bigging the Mitchells up as a massive gangster family. Classic EE is on the Drama Channel now, 1996. The writers should watch it. That’s not what Phil and Grant ever were.

Posted by: pippa 3rd March 2021, 12:38 AM

They need to move away from Phil been the man of fear in the square.

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd March 2021, 07:24 AM

They need to move away from gangster storylines altogether, they're so dated

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd March 2021, 03:51 PM

https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/a35709254/eastenders-lorraine-stanley-karen-lucas-romance/

Is this a joke? Are we really meant to believe that Karen has at no point been made aware that Lucas killed several people? That shit would be talk of the square. Oh wait, I forgot, this is EastEnders: The Sitcom.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd March 2021, 05:32 PM

The only thing is i think Karen would have always liked a bad boy so maybe that is what they are hoping we will believe.

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd March 2021, 05:37 PM

*serial killer

It also says in the article she is "is currently unaware of Lucas' murderous past". Just ridiculous, absolutely no-one would be unaware there was a serial killer on the square and exactly who he is, but especially Karen who is first on the scene when there's drama or gossip.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2021, 06:54 PM

Gray literally went ape this week at the thought of her grandchildren being near Lucas and apparently Karen doesn’t know? She’s not that thick.

Lucas’ return has been a flop. It’s unrealistic that he’s even out and aside from like one scene of him and Denise, it’s been bland af.

I still think he’s there to be the fall guy next time Gray kills. Which I’m pretty sure Kush is the next victim.

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd March 2021, 09:36 PM

I've just read that Lucas introduces himself to Karen as 'Jordan', gah

Also Bronson the dog is going to be put down

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2021, 09:40 PM

Will anyone care? It’s not like they’ve noticed Chantelle is dead.

Posted by: Liаm 3rd March 2021, 09:45 PM

It's just stupid, everyone on the Square is in everyone's business at the slightest thing going on so with a murderer back from jail, that'd be round to every single person even remotely connected to the Square in mere minutes

Posted by: TalkAboutWall 3rd March 2021, 10:28 PM

I’m actually enjoying Lucas

Posted by: TalkAboutWall 3rd March 2021, 10:30 PM

Although I’ve giving up watching but he’s enjoyable

Posted by: pippa 8th March 2021, 12:31 AM

The characters are often suffering from the lack of long-term planning.

Posted by: Liаm 9th March 2021, 07:53 PM

Roxanne Pallet is SHAKING

Posted by: Botchia 9th March 2021, 08:01 PM

This character assassination on Ruby

QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 9 2021, 07:53 PM)

Posted by: pippa 9th March 2021, 09:58 PM

How are Ian's family not frantic that he has vanished.

Posted by: lewistgreen 9th March 2021, 10:22 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Mar 9 2021, 09:58 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th March 2021, 10:28 PM

I've not watched this week's episodes yet so I can't comment on that, but the Beale family do know that Ian is alive because he sent his solicitor to sign the pub over to Sharon whilst Kathy was present. I guess they would still be concerned he's gone but not to the extent they would have been if they didn't know he was alive or not.

Posted by: T Boy 9th March 2021, 10:56 PM

So I guess Stacey will be off for some jail time for a change to cover Lacey’s maternity leave. The Peter and Ash stuff is absolutely awful.

Posted by: Jαsє 9th March 2021, 11:04 PM

Speaking of dropping storylines, what happened to Jean's cancer scare? She ran from the hospital weeks ago and literally nothing has been mentioned since unless I'm mistaken?

Posted by: pippa 10th March 2021, 01:12 AM

I think the Jean storyline is continuing as Jean constantly mentions lines such as you have your life ahead of you or life is too short. I believe these are to make us see that Jean thinks she is dying.

Posted by: T Boy 10th March 2021, 08:55 AM

Yeah Jean has been mentioning it in a Biden kind of way in her scenes but I wish we’d know if she’s ill for certain. ‘Guess if she’s dying’ is a bit off.

Posted by: Liam.k. 10th March 2021, 11:42 AM

I have issues with the stories and characterisation, but in terms of writing and acting, the show has kinda been enjoyable as of late.

I don't agree with the direction they've gone with Ruby and I don't think this is worth trashing her friendship with Stacey, but Lousia is doing a really great job. I actually feel sympathy for Ruby despite the manipulation, like I can see the desperation and pain. I'm also liking the human touches like Kush remembering Zaair, you know, things that aren't necessary to the plot but are routed in character.

I think it's ridiculous that Lucas is even back on the square nevermind people just accepting it (or even being totally unaware of his past i.e. Karen) and I don't understand the point to the story, but Zaraah has been fantastic in the role of Chelsea and has given a very layered performance; Don is so charismatic as Lucas; and it's obviously great to see Diane Parish given something to do.

Posted by: King Rollo 10th March 2021, 01:25 PM

Is it common for CCTV systems to have microphones attached to them nowadays? Even if Stacey does get sent to prison based on that footage, she did steal thousands of pounds from Ruby's bank account and unless I missed something, I don't think she paid any of that money back. It seems to have been forgotten about.

Posted by: T Boy 10th March 2021, 03:19 PM

She also got a very reduced sentence for murder and got a way with assaulting someone two years ago. It’s karma really.

I imagine when Louisa Lytton gets pregnant, Ruby may face a similar karma of her own.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th March 2021, 08:13 PM

I just wish soaps didnt have to write out characters when on maternity leave as usually their absence or exits are daft, like staceys last exit was all over the place and then she just returned with no fear of the Mitchells at all. I have said it before i just wish they would get Lacey for example to film 10 or 15 random scenes in the vic or in the iamspamspamamiwith the kids and slot it into episodes and not bother with the short end departures.

Posted by: Liam.k. 10th March 2021, 08:19 PM

I know what you mean, storylines accommodating for maternity leave are often very messy, but I suppose there's no guarantee of when Lacey returns or even if she comes back at all!

Posted by: T Boy 10th March 2021, 08:33 PM

They could literally just say she’s playing with the kids upstairs or have characters reference talking to her the other day. There are plenty of characters floating around onscreen with no storyline, viewers wouldn’t question someone out of a story being offscreen.

Posted by: T Boy 11th March 2021, 06:23 PM

Watching Eastenders 2008 and we’re up to Janine’s wedding *.*

Posted by: T Boy 11th March 2021, 10:32 PM

I couldn’t quite keep up with Karen, but was that confirmation Keanu and Bernadette have the same dad?

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th March 2021, 11:42 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 11 2021, 10:32 PM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th March 2021, 11:44 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 10 2021, 08:33 PM)

Posted by: Liam.k. 14th March 2021, 11:26 AM

Congratulations to Louisa Lytton who has announced she’s pregnant with her first child!

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2021, 02:58 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Mar 14 2021, 11:26 AM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th March 2021, 02:48 AM

Great news but yes prison looks set for Ruby.

Posted by: Liаm 15th March 2021, 08:23 PM

The show focusing more on Bronson’s death than Chantelle’s really says it all about what it’s become tbh

Posted by: T Boy 15th March 2021, 10:58 PM

Bayley has barely mentioned her sister since she came back.

I agree with Lucas that Chelsea needs a life lesson here but somehow even after that cliffhanger, I don’t see it happening.

Posted by: T Boy 16th March 2021, 09:16 PM

Kathy neglecting her funeral hat

They seem to be trying to rehabilitate Sharon by throwing some lively women at her to see what sticks.

I love how it looks like the Taylors have a shrine to Bronson already and yet no pictures of Chantelle anywhere.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th March 2021, 08:20 PM

Why have literally brushed over chantelle death like it never happened, prior to her death it was the best storyline on the show. I could feel Chelsea stress anxiety and worry going through that airport, it was a good scene.

Posted by: Liаm 17th March 2021, 09:14 PM

Gwen Taylor has been cast as Stuart and Callum's grandmother, now that's a good signing!!

Posted by: T Boy 17th March 2021, 09:41 PM

Good news, we need some more of the older generation. Plus it means they’re invested in the Highways.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 18th March 2021, 08:29 PM

I agree we need more older cast members so hopefully this will lead to at least 1 more joining.

Posted by: Mack. 18th March 2021, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 1 2021, 05:33 PM)

Posted by: T Boy 18th March 2021, 09:48 PM

Love Denise ‘Chelsea, it’s like I don’t recognise you anymore’. She was away for 10 years and has gained a new head plus the ability to act.

I just can’t route for Ash at all. She didn’t ever seem bothered her career was in danger and she keeps hanging around with awful Peter.

Posted by: Botchia 18th March 2021, 09:53 PM

Missed opportunity not getting Suki as landlady of The Vic tbh.

She elevates every scene she's in right now and she's such an interesting, layered character whilst simultaneously being a classic soap bitch.

Posted by: T Boy 18th March 2021, 10:03 PM

I’m really not looking forward to the Carters going back in the Vic. I’m yawning already.

What is Sharon going to do for a job?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 19th March 2021, 11:43 AM

I really loved Lucas and Chelsea’s last scene really well acted from both . I did think Lucas would stick around longer than this but he’s been written out quite well .

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th March 2021, 01:40 PM

I have enjoyed having Lucas back, he is a complex character that the writers could have done so much with if he stayed but he was written out well and of course acted brilliantly by Don who i think is a great actor.

Posted by: T Boy 22nd March 2021, 04:46 PM

Kelly Bright is pregnant again. Given how convoluted all these temporary maternity exits are, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they put the Carters back in the vic so Linda could relapse and go to rehab.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 22nd March 2021, 05:19 PM

Ya they might do it that way, I'd be happy to see drunk Linda return though even if it's only for a little while to allow her exit.

Posted by: T Boy 22nd March 2021, 10:23 PM

I wish they’d keep Covid out of the show given they’re not consistent with it. Suki and Patrick preaching about the importance of the vaccine whilst chatting in a small shop that has no hand sanitiser on the way in and without masks.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd March 2021, 06:32 AM

Whitney is going to propose to Kush. she really is just constantly going around in circles.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd March 2021, 09:01 PM

Still not convinced Jean has cancer. I don’t believe they’ll kill her off with Stacey not being on screen.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th March 2021, 12:16 AM

Im hoping that is right about Jean as i want her to stay, one of my faves in the show.

Posted by: pippa 27th March 2021, 11:54 PM

I am fearful of how Linda's temporary exit will be storylined this time.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th March 2021, 04:25 PM

I think it could be Linda goes back on the drink and goes off to rehab for a few months.

Posted by: T Boy 29th March 2021, 08:47 PM

So this is Whitney’s 5th engagement before turning 30 and her fourth engagement in the past 5 years.

Posted by: Jαsє 29th March 2021, 08:56 PM

I wonder how Shona feels about the fact the producers can't seem to think of anything for her other than random bloke of the month drama

Posted by: pippa 29th March 2021, 11:12 PM

Shona has to be bored of the same storyline over and over.
Whitney hasn't had any character development in years and her constant falling in love with anything that moves is beyond boring to watch.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th March 2021, 12:50 AM

Whitney just needs to be axed.

Posted by: T Boy 1st April 2021, 01:30 PM

Well, they tried.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 2nd April 2021, 11:02 AM

In the soap write up in the tabloids, digital spy etc I noticed in relation to Stacey's exit they are saying we all know Jean's cancer has returned and its terminal, I'm confused as in it's never been confirmed on screen. I picked up that jean found another lump and is assuming this is the case, have I missed something referenced on the show.

Posted by: King Rollo 2nd April 2021, 11:06 PM

I don't think her cancer has returned. She ran out of the hospital before they had a chance to do the tests and she's assuming the worst.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd April 2021, 12:49 AM

That's what I'm hoping is the case.

Posted by: T Boy 4th April 2021, 08:13 PM

https://ibb.co/HqyyqW2


So I’m opening a strip club with Linda Carter. A storyline *.*

Posted by: Cameron 4th April 2021, 08:22 PM

Drinking the night club dry with Martic Fowler... Oi oi!

Posted by: Jαsє 5th April 2021, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Apr 4 2021, 09:13 PM)

Posted by: HarryBorelli 6th April 2021, 12:54 PM

Drinking the nightclub dry with Suki

Posted by: Liam.k. 6th April 2021, 01:03 PM

Drinking the night club dry with Big Mo. Can't wait to see you guys in the club with Suki and Martin!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 6th April 2021, 09:58 PM

Love Jean and Sharon’s friendship

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th April 2021, 01:46 AM

Ya they were good scenes but Sharon's character like so many others is completely all over th place.

Posted by: Mart!n 9th April 2021, 12:39 PM

Eastenders and all normal TV transmission is cancelled, its all BBC News all day, just switched TV on

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th April 2021, 01:34 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Apr 9 2021, 01:39 PM)

Posted by: Botchia 12th April 2021, 02:12 PM

The BBC has finally confirmed just now that there's a double episode today to make up for Friday's missed episode.

Posted by: T Boy 13th April 2021, 09:12 PM

Oh dear, Linda is absolutely pregnant, munching on that apple tonight. Watch it be Max’s.

Not exactly thrilled to see Nancy back tbh.

Kathy and Lexi appear so infrequently together that I forget they’re related.

Posted by: Dill Doe 13th April 2021, 10:04 PM

Eastenders got name-dropped by CNN in an article about the BBC royal complaints Eastenders might get some more viewers in the US watching out of curiosity, as CNN called it the "biggest soap"!