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Rooney View member profile	23rd March 2008, 10:08 PM Post #21
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,605 User: 88	QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Mar 23 2008, 09:51 PM) I didn't watch the game so can't comment on what else he did but from reading comments it seemed Liverpool fans were dead against it, Utd fans were dead for it and the majority of neutral's went in Utd's favour. All it will take is for two or three players to stupidly get red cards and people will soon realise and stop. Dissent is an offence, and should be penalised. It's only the lack of balls shown by refs in the past few years which has lead to them being surrounded by 8 players every time a decision goes against a big 4 side because they can't face it and don't know how to lose. It's about time it was clamped down upon... There was a piece on Football Focus yesterday saying that the FA are introducing it to grass roots level to stop kids from disrespecting referees at a young age. What better way to stop them by sending off some of their heroes? They see the likes of Mascherano, Gerrard, Terry, Cole, Fabregas, Gallas, Rooney moaning at the refs every week and they get away with it 99% of the time and copy them, it's about time something was done! They're going to trial the idea of only captains speaking to the refs at next seasons Community Shield, I hope it goes well because it really is about time something was done. I also think that the refs should be properly mic'd up like they are in rugby so if a player does tell a ref to f* off, it's caught for everyone to hear! I agree it should be stopped and i'm not excusing Masch for it but I do think Liverpool were harsly done by. I don't think i've ever seen a game in my life where a player hasn't told the ref to f* off (or similar words), he went OTT and he'll learn from it but I think he felt harshly done by from the 1st yellow cards he got - yes he went in with his studs up, but it wasn't intent and Scholes made a meal of it and ever since then he just looked like a raging bull in a china shop. Torres got booked for "dissent" yet he was only complaining he was getting no protection from the ref as Vidic and Ferdinand were hacking him down the whole game. I saw earlier that the ref had a word with Gallas and Terry before the game to tell them to watch their players, why didn't Bennet do this with Gerrard? It was obvious Masch was getting a little too excited and all it would have needed was a quick word with Gerrard to tell him to watch Masch. Certain refs just lack balls. There was an incident with Ronaldo and Carragher in the box and Ronaldo went down - surely it should be a penalty or Ronaldo should get booked for diving? Week in week out you see incidents where refs are scared to give penalties etc. and it just aggrivates the players. The mic idea would be brilliant too, but i'd be vvv.suprised if Fifa ever brought it into the game. Would certainly cut down on the bad language.


thisispop View member profile	24th March 2008, 12:48 PM Post #22
I've got an iPod classic and I'm gonna use it! Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 39,988 User: 72	I knew Liverpool were going to lose as soon as I saw the referee, Steve Bennett is scared of penalising Man Utd since he sent Ronaldo off in the second match of the season, coming soon after refereeing the 2007 FA Cup final where he controversially denied Ryan Giggs a goal in that game (vs Chelski) and he had got the hairdryer treatment by both Fergie & Queiroz so I knew he would be a puppy yesterday and be Man Utd's 12th man. Famously, Fergie intimidated the Premiership and said that he never wanted Bennett to ref another Man Utd game, as he favours the opposition... So the Premiership showed their inept authority by humilating Steve Bennett and removed him from the very next game featuring Manchester Utd he was due to officiate instead of throwing the book at Fergie & Queiroz. To be fair if that sending off had not happened Man Utd were going to win that match easily anyway, as Liverpool did not turn up yesterday (I have not been that humilated as a Liverpool supporter since the 1st half of the 2005 European Cup Final v AC Milan), and Masch clearly left his brain in the dressing room the idiot, so I can't defend him. It is just a shame that Bennett ref'd more like his namesake Rodney and killed the match dead as a spectacle for the neutral. As for bring in the mic idea. It will never happens as the likes of Terry, Carragher & Rooney would never stay on the pitch for 15 mins each match let alone the full 90.


JamesP View member profile	24th March 2008, 03:27 PM Post #23
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 2 October 2007 Posts: 18,059 User: 4,443	QUOTE(thisispop @ Mar 24 2008, 12:49 PM) As for bring in the mic idea. It will never happens as the likes of Terry, Carragher & Rooney would never stay on the pitch for 15 mins each match let alone the full 90. Indeed. My god, can you imagine the problems it'd cause


Matt Aloud View member profile	24th March 2008, 03:33 PM Post #24
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 11 September 2006 Posts: 14,913 User: 1,286	If you get paid 6 figure weekly wages the least they can do is show respect, just because they get paid ridiculous wages doesn't mean they have a doctorate in football and refereeing. Bring in mics Everyone would know the consequences, so there would be no excuse


blade699 View member profile	24th March 2008, 03:43 PM Post #25
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 4,436 User: 64	QUOTE(thisispop @ Mar 24 2008, 12:49 PM) As for bring in the mic idea. It will never happens as the likes of Terry, Carragher & Rooney would never stay on the pitch for 15 mins each match let alone the full 90. That's exactly why it would never happen Anyway I think Torres was treated slightly harshly but then again earlier on in the match Rooney could have easily had a pen. Mascherano deserved his sending off though, the amount of times he went over to have a pop at the ref was unacceptable


Rooney View member profile	24th March 2008, 03:58 PM Post #26
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,605 User: 88	QUOTE(blade699 @ Mar 24 2008, 03:44 PM) That's exactly why it would never happen Anyway I think Torres was treated slightly harshly but then again earlier on in the match Rooney could have easily had a pen. Mascherano deserved his sending off though, the amount of times he went over to have a pop at the ref was unacceptable I don't think it was a penalty. Fair enough if Rooney went down, but he didn't. Personally I don't think he went down because he didn't want Ronaldo to score another penalty. As Rooney's waywayway behind Ronaldo's goal tally this season. Apparently Masch might be getting a 5 game ban now, which is just an absolute joke. Bennet could have given Masch a straight red card but he didn't. Amd what about managers and players attacking referees after the games? Fergie and Queiroz were very guilty of that the other week and didn't retract their comments like Wenger did. Just goes to show how much of a joke our FA is.


RabbitFurCoat View member profile	24th March 2008, 06:17 PM Post #27
IncredibleSquirrel Joined: 8 March 2006 Posts: 25,845 User: 118	After watching it on MOTD last night I have no idea how so many people kept complaining. If Bennett deserved any criticism it was not showing him the second yellow card earlier, atleast 6 times he protested. He's a complete idiot. I also don't think it's really the ref's responsibility to warn the captain, they have enough to do as it is. If the manager and captain can't see what's happening and warning him themselves, they're clearly not good enough at their job. A 5 game ban would be harsh, but maybe it's one game for this, and another four for the ban he should've faced with Aliadiere. If he does get 5 games I will have no sypathy. The Scum's portraying him as the 'dumbest man on earth' is a slight exaggeration but I think he fully deserved the 0/10 they gave him in their Dream Team ratings. This post has been edited by RabbitFurCoat: 24th March 2008, 06:18 PM


Rooney View member profile	24th March 2008, 06:36 PM Post #28
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,605 User: 88	QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Mar 24 2008, 06:18 PM) After watching it on MOTD last night I have no idea how so many people kept complaining. If Bennett deserved any criticism it was not showing him the second yellow card earlier, atleast 6 times he protested. He's a complete idiot. I also don't think it's really the ref's responsibility to warn the captain, they have enough to do as it is. If the manager and captain can't see what's happening and warning him themselves, they're clearly not good enough at their job. A 5 game ban would be harsh, but maybe it's one game for this, and another four for the ban he should've faced with Aliadiere. If he does get 5 games I will have no sypathy. The Scum's portraying him as the 'dumbest man on earth' is a slight exaggeration but I think he fully deserved the 0/10 they gave him in their Dream Team ratings. For me Andy Gray summed the whole situation perfectly on Sky Sports yesterday, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ttja_ma...time-with_sport


blade699 View member profile	24th March 2008, 06:53 PM Post #29
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 4,436 User: 64	Yeah it should be down to the captain more than down to the ref, fair enough if cap'n didnt see the incident but on the numerous occasions he would have seen Masch creating a fuss


RabbitFurCoat View member profile	24th March 2008, 08:21 PM Post #30
IncredibleSquirrel Joined: 8 March 2006 Posts: 25,845 User: 118	QUOTE(Rooney @ Mar 24 2008, 06:37 PM) For me Andy Gray summed the whole situation perfectly on Sky Sports yesterday, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ttja_ma...time-with_sport I see he conveniently forgets to mention the 5 or 6 times he was actually agressive and swore to the ref and his assistant. What he said was utter rubbish in my eyes. All the publicity on thursday and friday was about respect for refs, not surrounding him etc. Yet for forty minutes that's all he did, he's even more of a complete idiot to say he doesn't understand why he was sent off. It was possibly harsh for him being sent off on that occasion, but he DID run 20 yars towards him and he had been agressive towards the ref numerous times, he has no excuse. This is one of the things that people complain about all the time saying it shouldn't happen, (surrounding refs, telling them to book people, swearing at them, pressuring refs) and yet when they actually do something progressive about it and rightly send him off there's still uproar. The ref's can't win, whatever they do they're in a lose lose situation. In years to come it wouldn't surprise me if there was no football, because who in their right mind would want to be a referee?! This post has been edited by RabbitFurCoat: 24th March 2008, 08:21 PM


Matt Aloud View member profile	24th March 2008, 10:44 PM Post #31
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 11 September 2006 Posts: 14,913 User: 1,286	wasn't there a statistic recently that half of grassroots games can't even get a referee? Tells a story really


Ruki View member profile	24th March 2008, 10:53 PM Post #32
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 22 February 2008 Posts: 706 User: 5,464	Man Sh!te won again booooooooooooooooo o well Nani's goal and celebration was nice


RabbitFurCoat View member profile	25th March 2008, 05:21 PM Post #33
IncredibleSquirrel Joined: 8 March 2006 Posts: 25,845 User: 118	QUOTE(Stewie Griffin @ Mar 24 2008, 10:45 PM) wasn't there a statistic recently that half of grassroots games can't even get a referee? Tells a story really Wouldn't surprise me. My brother plays Under 15s. They get a ref ok but atleast 50% of the time it's someone over 55!


DitzyNizzy View member profile	25th March 2008, 07:59 PM Post #34
To Katy Perry: I shagged a girl. And I loved it. Joined: 7 October 2007 Posts: 1,783 User: 4,484	QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Mar 23 2008, 09:51 PM) They're going to trial the idea of only captains speaking to the refs at next seasons Community Shield, I hope it goes well because it really is about time something was done. They already do that at Barnet (I saw it on Gilette Soccer Saturday one week when Preston were playing away), and they already do that in rugby as well. (But then, if they do introduce it, it'll be dropped a few years later - like the marching the free kick 10yds up the pitch if players showed dissent. That was scrapped in 2005 after the non-rugby playing countries (i.e. most of them other than those in the Six Nations, Tri-Nations tournament and Argentina) failed to understand it.)