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 16th December 2016, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 16 2016, 06:31 PM)  He's a dance music producer, famous for his #1 hit Singin In The Rain, and for the #2 remix of Tequila by Terrorvision. I thought it was a buzzjacker who named himself after him. Singin The Rain was great, it should have done better in 2005 originally when it was released (it reached number 20) but it deservedly eventually reached number 1. Massive influence on Galantis though soundwise I think...with the weird sounding vocals in it and the quirky uplifting music. This post has been edited by Snakin' Stevens: 16th December 2016, 06:37 PM |
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16th December 2016, 07:35 PM
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I don't get the mentally behind this. Streams are supposed to be on the increase, downloads in decline. This to me sounds like either they have made a terrible mistake introducing the streaming level that high, or the sales are not in decline and streams are going to fall off soon.
Perhaps the record companies have decided that switching to streaming charts is a mistake. And that they can't flog new products to people because of it, because everyone is just listening to Bieber or Drake rubbish and not buying any new records. Great for big name artists. Crap for 90% of the Music Industry. Spotify won't be very pleased that's all I can say. |
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16th December 2016, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Snakin @ Dec 16 2016, 06:49 PM) Who is Mint Royale...is that a Buzzjacker? OMG ... On topic though, it's an interesting move and I hope it could make the chart a bit more exciting, although sales drop sooooo much this year, if the decline continues, the change will not make much difference tbh 
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16th December 2016, 07:41 PM
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This does pose a problem with how sales figues from 2015-16 will convert though.
Strictly speaking, all 'total sales' figures should have to be re-converted to the new ratio to avoid discrepancies. But will they do that? Already, changing the game from an established figure annoys the fan of order and precision in me. |
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16th December 2016, 07:44 PM
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Bad idea and I knew this would happen. Another 2 years and they'll alter it again.
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16th December 2016, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(Graham A @ Dec 16 2016, 07:35 PM) I don't get the mentally behind this. Streams are supposed to be on the increase, downloads in decline. This to me sounds like either they have made a terrible mistake introducing the streaming level that high, or the sales are not in decline and streams are going to fall off soon. Perhaps the record companies have decided that switching to streaming charts is a mistake. And that they can't flog new products to people because of it, because everyone is just listening to Bieber or Drake rubbish and not buying any new records. Great for big name artists. Crap for 90% of the Music Industry. Spotify won't be very pleased that's all I can say. this is true, and it is probably why they're increasing the ratio. clearly streaming has become more dominant than the OCC ever imagined and this is the way the OCC tries to make sales worth more in the chart. |
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16th December 2016, 08:04 PM
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I'm for it, I want to see the chart less stagnated and well... more interesting to follow.
With how streaming is continually growing, I expect in a few months it won't even make a difference anyway. |
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16th December 2016, 08:08 PM
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Yesssssss!
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16th December 2016, 08:16 PM
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One wonders if they will change it again in the future when it suits them?
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16th December 2016, 08:53 PM
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I did some calculations based on the sales figures for a recent top 100 (the one with all the Weeknd tracks entering was the most recent I could find), and there really isn't too much of a difference.
Notable changes that would've happened in that chart however: • Rag'n'Bone Man would've been #8 instead of #11 • The Weeknd's album tracks would've been a few places lower (with 'Reminder' missing the top 40) • Charli XCX would have been at #34 instead of #41 |
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16th December 2016, 09:00 PM
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What a mess with overall sales, certification's etc., - making the charts ever more like a radio playlist rather than an achievement. Agree with the above though and pleased to see it changing however I think it will change again in the future.
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16th December 2016, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(Graham A @ Dec 16 2016, 07:35 PM) I don't get the mentally behind this. Streams are supposed to be on the increase, downloads in decline. This to me sounds like either they have made a terrible mistake introducing the streaming level that high, or the sales are not in decline and streams are going to fall off soon. Perhaps the record companies have decided that switching to streaming charts is a mistake. And that they can't flog new products to people because of it, because everyone is just listening to Bieber or Drake rubbish and not buying any new records. Great for big name artists. Crap for 90% of the Music Industry. Spotify won't be very pleased that's all I can say. As Mint Royale says, it's probably just to reflect the true revenue brought in by streams more than anything else. |
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16th December 2016, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(AcerBen @ Dec 16 2016, 10:15 PM) As Mint Royale says, it's probably just to reflect the true revenue brought in by streams more than anything else. I think it is more to cap just how huge total 'sales' for songs released these days are becoming more than anything. Becoming a million 'seller' used to be a big deal, now it is barely note worthy. |
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16th December 2016, 10:32 PM
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Say that hiss with your chest, and...
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There must be a way to get the streaming only component to be faster. But I suppose with playlists on spotify there is always going to be five month old songs still getting enough streams to make official top 40 still like One Dance or Cold Water in this weeks top 40.
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16th December 2016, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 16 2016, 09:27 PM) I think it is more to cap just how huge total 'sales' for songs released these days are becoming more than anything. Becoming a million 'seller' used to be a big deal, now it is barely note worthy. Maybe a bit of that too, but there are far better ways of doing that. |
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16th December 2016, 10:39 PM
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I don't really know what to make of this.
We all know that the streaming giant Spotify (followed by Apple Music) only get streams for songs which feature high up on promoted playlists and those nearer the bottom get overlooked. There really is no win win situation for this... |
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16th December 2016, 10:46 PM
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Say that hiss with your chest, and...
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QUOTE(Tinasha @ Dec 16 2016, 03:15 PM) Will update when I can find the full article. So far this comes from Mint Royale's tweets. Did you send him a link to Buzzjack, he would be really useful on the chart forum and dance electro and house too 
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16th December 2016, 10:59 PM
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Wonderful news! This should stop anything like the Drake farce happening again
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16th December 2016, 11:09 PM
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Infamy Infamy they all got it in for me
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Has this been actually confirmed by OCC yet, as usually I take MR comments with a pinch of salt
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16th December 2016, 11:26 PM
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You don't have to be fabulous to be good
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I don't think it will make the charts faster in the long run. To make it that way you shouldn't count any multiply streams by one user, only the first one. And raise the ratio of streaming of course, to like 15:1 (if we say that the average number of plays is 10).
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