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Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 05:54 PM
Pick & Mix week!!! 
Chart Information will be very scarce this week, let's play it by ear this week.
Breakdown of the week
- Saturday: Some information may be posted on social media but it is likely to be missing most streaming data and is unrepresentative.
- Sunday: Official First Look Chart on Radio 1 from 6-7pm. Please do not post spoilers on the forum in advance as this ruins the countdown for any listeners.
- Monday: OCC Top 100 from 5:45pm
- Tuesday: Top 40 update as and when we receive them with requests, this is NOT 100% guaranteed however. The OCC may publish sales flashes of their own accord but likewise, this is not guaranteed. Twitter and social media is your friend for today. Please post any information you find with a source. Do not nag for updates, we will post a top 40 update if we receive one.
- Wednesday: Top 40 update from Music Week from 5:45, and potential top 5 sales but this is not guaranteed.
- Thursday: See Tuesday.
Other notes (please read)
- You may make requests Tuesday to Thursday but outside the top 40, specific positions will not be revealed (unless deemed necessary by a mod).
- Please do not demand a midweek update, one will be posted as and when we receive the information. Patience is a virtue.
- Sales information will be given out as deemed necessary by a moderator, please bear this in mind when making requests. Most requests for sales will be ignored. Any chart requests between No. 41 to 100 will not be answered after Monday's update.
- To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action, please refer to the iTunes and Spotify threads.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 05:55 PM
Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: unknown
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/
1 Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You
2 Wham! - Last Christmas
3 Jess Glynne - This Christmas
4 Justin Bieber - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
5 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
6-10
6 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
7 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
8 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
9 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas
10 Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas
11-20
11 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday
12 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody
13 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
14 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree
15 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
16 John Lennon, Yoko Ono and the Plastic Ono Band with the Harlem Community Choir - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
17 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep
18 Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas
19 Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year
20 Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime
21-30
21 Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock
22 Justin Bieber - Mistletoe
23 Kylie Minogue - Santa Baby
24 Coldplay - Christmas Lights
25 The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride
27 Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!
28 Katy Perry - Cozy Little Christmas ^
29 Ed Sheeran - Afterglow
30 José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad *
31-40
32 Brett Eldredge feat. Meghan Trainor - Baby, It's Cold Outside *
33 Idina Menzel & Michael Bublé - Baby, It's Cold Outside ^
34 Bing Crosby - White Christmas ^
35 Sam Smith - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas *
36 Liam Payne & Dixie D'Amelio - Naughty List *
37 Jamie Cullum - In the Bleak Midwinter *
38 Griff - Love is a Compass *
39 Sia - Santa's Coming for Us ^
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/
1 Michael Bublé - Christmas
2 Taylor Swift - evermore
3 Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
4 Little Mix - Confetti
5 Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By
6-10
6 Queen - Greatest Hits
7 Playboi Carti - Whole Lotta Red *
8 Pop Smoke - Shoot for the Stars Aim for the Moon
9 Sam Smith - Love Goes
10 Harry Styles - Fine Line
11-20
12 Elton John - Diamonds
14 Ariana Grande - Positions
15 Lewis Capaldi - Divinely Uninspired to a Hellish Extent
18 Taylor Swift - folklore
19 Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop ^
20 Frank Sinatra - Ultimate Christmas *
21-30
21 Jucie WRLD - Legends Never Die
22 Bing Crosby - Christmas Classics *
23 Lil Durk - The Voice *
24 ABBA - Gold: Greatest Hits ^
25 Nat "King" Cole - The Christmas Song *
27 The Kid LAROI - F*CK LOVE
28 Ed Sheeran - ÷
29 George Michael - Twenty Five ^
31-40
31 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours ^
33 Billie Eilish - WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE DO?
34 Choir of King's College Cambridge - Carols from King's College Cambridge *
35 King's College Choir - Christmas at King's *
36 Dermot Kennedy - Without Fear ^
37 Arctic Monkeys - AM ^
38 King's College Choir - Best Loved Christmas Carols *
40 The Beatles - 1 ^
Click on the above relevant links.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 05:55 PM
Wednesday Top 40 ONLY Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:
Singles
1
2
3
4
5
6-10
11-20
21-30
31-40
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1
2
3
4
5
6-10
11-20
21-30
31-40
NO OTHER SALES INFO
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 05:55 PM
Thursday Top 40 Update
Missing Data:
Singles
1
2
3
4
5
6-10
11-20
21-30
31-40
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1
2
3
4
5
6-10
11-20
21-30
31-40
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 05:55 PM
Hi guys! First Look is in 5 mins though I don't know how much midweek data they'll reveal, they're supposedly counting down the biggest songs of the year. I'll be listening along anyway so feel free to join in!
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:01 PM
Biggest songs of 2020 so far
20 Powfu feat. beabadoobee - death bed (coffee for your head) 
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:03 PM
19 Dua Lipa - Physical
Posted by: Sour Candy 27th December 2020, 06:05 PM
Rain on Me to appear soon... 
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:06 PM
The Box, Roses (Imanbek Remix) and Blinding Lights will be in top 20 today.
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:06 PM
I'm a bit too late but death bed is one of my fave songs of the year.
Also like Physical.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:07 PM
18 S1mba feat. DTG – Rover
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:08 PM
Urgh at mu la la 
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:10 PM
17 Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande – Rain On Me
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:11 PM
What a flop for Rain On Me. 
Posted by: Sour Candy 27th December 2020, 06:12 PM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSS
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:13 PM
Rain On Me still sounds SO good!
Posted by: Rizzard 27th December 2020, 06:13 PM
Nice to hear 'Rover' for the first time in a while, surprised 'Loose' didn't have any longevity in the chart and that we haven't seen much of S1mba beyond that.
#17 is a very good result for 'Rain On Me'!
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:13 PM
I love Rain On Me!
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:14 PM
16 Topic & A7S – Breaking Me
15 Harry Styles – Adore You
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:15 PM
YES HARRY *.*
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:15 PM
Aww at them skipping Breaking Me.
Posted by: Mart!n 27th December 2020, 06:15 PM
They didn't play Topic 
probably one of the best tracks of 2020
Posted by: dancemberlexa 27th December 2020, 06:17 PM
probably one of the best tracks of 2020come back next sunday for the plug session of the top 100 then, it won’t be skipped!
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 06:17 PM
I wonder if 'positions' will end up missing the top 100
Posted by: elf 27th December 2020, 06:18 PM
Rover is alright but it started to grate on me when it was #3 for about 4 weeks straight - Death Bed & Breaking Me are both songs that I quite liked back then but honestly I forgotten all about them. Summer seems so long ago. Yay for Physical and ROM.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:18 PM
14 Joel Corry – Lonely
Posted by: Sour Candy 27th December 2020, 06:18 PM
Rain on Me is one of the newest songs on chart, well done Gaga & Ari!!!
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:19 PM
I like Lonely but I prefer Head & Heart.
Posted by: Maestro 27th December 2020, 06:19 PM
This is still rubbish
Posted by: elf 27th December 2020, 06:21 PM
Yep H&H is infinitely better than this - just screams Love Island really.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:21 PM
13 Doja Cat – Say So
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:21 PM
Yay!!!
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:22 PM
I wasn't expecting to see this in the top 20 tbh
Posted by: Envoirment 27th December 2020, 06:23 PM
Happy to see "Physical", "Rain On Me" & "Say So" in the top 20 biggest songs of the year.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:24 PM
12 Roddy Ricch – The Box
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:24 PM
My favourite song of the year!
Posted by: elf 27th December 2020, 06:25 PM
Be interesting to see where Godzilla placed in comparison to this.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:27 PM
11 Jawsh 685 & Jason Derulo – Savage Love (Laxed – Siren Beat)
10 Harry Styles – Watermelon Sugar
Posted by: Mart!n 27th December 2020, 06:28 PM
They play 2 Harry Styles tracks, but no Jason Derulo... how rude
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:30 PM
09 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy – Own It
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 06:33 PM
Ed Sheeran with at least one of the top 10 for a 4th year in a row
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:33 PM
08 Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:35 PM
second year in a row in the top 10 for lewis with the same song
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 06:36 PM
He's not the only one...
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:36 PM
07 DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch – ROCKSTAR
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:37 PM
we know #dancemonkey
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:39 PM
06 Joel Corry feat. MNEK – Head & Heart
Posted by: Christmasteve201 27th December 2020, 06:40 PM
‘Adore You’, is ‘Watermelon Sugar’ still to come?
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:40 PM
That was no. 10.
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:41 PM
Watermelon Sugar was announced as #10
Posted by: Christmasteve201 27th December 2020, 06:41 PM
Oh thought it’d be the higher of the two!
Posted by: Sour Candy 27th December 2020, 06:42 PM
Head and Heart is huge considering the time it's been available. It's practically impossible to top the chart with a July release.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:42 PM
05 Dua Lipa – Don’t Start Now
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:43 PM
YESSSSSS DUA
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 06:43 PM
Wonder what happened to Break My Heart as it was comfortably top 20 when MTV did this chart (probably tracking up to a few weeks ago), although I was surprised it was so high there, Physical being ahead makes more sense.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:45 PM
04 Lewis Capaldi – Before You Go
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:46 PM
I know Dance Monkey and Blinding Lights would be in the top 3, but what other song?
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:47 PM
Roses (Imanbek Remix) by SAINt JHN.
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:48 PM
Thank you!
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:49 PM
03 SAINt JHN – Roses
Posted by: IdentFan101 27th December 2020, 06:49 PM
My second favourite song of the year!
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:50 PM
Roses is the best in the top 3 definitely. 
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 06:53 PM
02 Tones and I – Dance Monkey
01 The Weeknd – Blinding Lights
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 06:53 PM
#5 peaking smash! (within the year)
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 06:54 PM
Why do people like Dance Monkey so much? It’s a terrible song. 
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 06:58 PM
Is Blinding Lights still ahead of Ladbaby on pure sales?
Posted by: Jason 27th December 2020, 06:59 PM
This week's info only tomorrow then?
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 27th December 2020, 07:02 PM
Are the Sunday midweeks being announced this week?
Posted by: Mart!n 27th December 2020, 07:02 PM
Nope, another Bank Holiday tomorrow
Posted by: elf 27th December 2020, 07:02 PM
It was on 177,000 in October so it most certainly will be.
Posted by: T Boy 27th December 2020, 07:04 PM
I say it every year now but what a dreadful representation of the year. Streaming has made these charts less enjoyable for me.
Posted by: dandy* 27th December 2020, 07:05 PM
Definitely agree, it's just such an unexciting list. That said, Blinding Lights is my favourite EOY #1 in pretty much forever.
edit - although I must admit that I do also like Rain On Me, Dance Monkey, both Harry tracks and of course both Dua tracks so that's a higher proportion than usual.
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 07:07 PM
Thanks!
Posted by: Sour Candy 27th December 2020, 07:07 PM
I dunno, those songs in top ten are pretty good!
Posted by: T Boy 27th December 2020, 07:15 PM
edit - although I must admit that I do also like Rain On Me, Dance Monkey, both Harry tracks and of course both Dua tracks so that's a higher proportion than usual.
I hope the top 100 may have some surprises in terms of old hits. Is it likely Dreams by Fleetwood Mac might appear?
Posted by: sammy01 27th December 2020, 07:26 PM
Streaming has made any list like this so stale as it skewers heavily towards songs released early in the year or even last year.
Posted by: Robbie 27th December 2020, 07:27 PM
Posted by: jimwatts 27th December 2020, 07:29 PM
I hope The Pogues make it in this year, as well as Wham! and Mariah
Posted by: Maestro 27th December 2020, 07:30 PM
Where can we see this chart?
Posted by: dancemberlexa 27th December 2020, 08:01 PM
we’ll be revealing it next Sunday in a live countdown thread. or the OCC may announce it earlier.
Posted by: -SCOTT- 27th December 2020, 08:24 PM
Could you not just post it now instead?
Posted by: Mart!n 27th December 2020, 08:26 PM
I'm awaiting for further chart information as we still have another week to add.
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 08:26 PM
No, because I've just spent my whole day prepping 100 posts to make a fun countdown....!
(we don't have a list up to date as of this week yet anyway so things below the top 20 may have changed by the time we do the countdown)
Posted by: dancemberlexa 27th December 2020, 08:27 PM
there is still one week of the chart year ie the one that’ll be announced on 1st January.
(and what Joseph said)
Posted by: Mart!n 27th December 2020, 08:28 PM
(and what Joseph said)
(and what I just said)
Posted by: Robbie 27th December 2020, 08:37 PM
Posted by: Christmasteve201 27th December 2020, 08:42 PM
Wow looking forward to that now!
Posted by: Yawn 27th December 2020, 09:34 PM
What can we expect for Sweet Melody this week?
Is it going ACR? Is there any chance that it could dodge ACR due to a streaming boost now that Xmas tracks are out of the way?
Can anyone with better chart knowledge give their opinion? 
Posted by: JosephCarey 27th December 2020, 09:41 PM
We don't know, we don't have an ACR update for this week
Posted by: Bjork 28th December 2020, 07:00 AM
Is it going ACR? Is there any chance that it could dodge ACR due to a streaming boost now that Xmas tracks are out of the way?
Can anyone with better chart knowledge give their opinion?
If you look only at their Spotify figures, they had a tiny drop from on average 166.8K to 161.7K but that's Spotify only... but here it did drop while the market increased
Posted by: Yawn 28th December 2020, 11:47 AM
hmm ok thank you! not what i was hoping the reality to be, but great information.
will definitely look forward to the official midweek when it is announced.
Posted by: ___∆___ 28th December 2020, 12:08 PM
Looking forward to seeing some albums to get some post Christmas boosts - Paloma Faith and Summer Smith seem to be doing well in the Amazon/HMV sales and on iTunes.
Posted by: lewistgreen 28th December 2020, 12:37 PM
Sooo Wham! this week then? Would be nice to see them get a #1 for Last Christmas finally
Posted by: Bré 28th December 2020, 12:40 PM
Think it's now looking more likely it'll just be Mariah again - not really sure why but Wham! seem to be peaking around the 23rd-25th and then falling back behind her again.
I do prefer Mariah's song but both are very far from my favourite Christmas songs. Honestly a part of me is hoping for Alexa to come through for Jess 
if ever there was a week where it doesn't really matter how legitimate the #1 is...
Posted by: Christmasteve201 28th December 2020, 12:58 PM
Yeh more like it’s looking like Alexa SCR streams will rule the day this week like ‘River’ last year!
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th December 2020, 01:32 PM
Im hoping Shane Codd out of my head can head into the top 10 with the christmas clear out coming.
Posted by: chartjack2 28th December 2020, 06:50 PM
Exciting week this week #1 could be anything —and on really low sales!
Posted by: SineFromAbove 28th December 2020, 09:58 PM
Flop? Are you delusional?
Posted by: UltraEvermore 29th December 2020, 03:00 PM
OCC has updated: Mariah 1, Wham 2, Alexa’s Minions 3 & 4, Xmas top 25
Sweet melody highest non Xmas song at 26 so must still be on SCR!!
Posted by: Jingle Jules 29th December 2020, 03:05 PM
Sweet melody highest non Xmas song at 26 so must still be on SCR!!
Thanks for that. The Christmas songs will more or less stay in the same order between now and Friday as they won't do much more.
That basically means it's a battle between Mariah and Little Mix then, but I doubt Little Mix will make up the deficit.
Incredible for Mariah if she can get a double run, but would have loved Wham! to get there.
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 03:05 PM
Update coming shortly, please bear with x
Posted by: Slade 29th December 2020, 03:09 PM
Ooh wow Little Mix!! BuzzJack coming to melt down if Ed Sheeran beats them next week *_*
Posted by: Bjork 29th December 2020, 03:14 PM
oh my unbelievable and totally distorted by the fake Amazon streams that includes Little Mix, which are doing poorly on Spotify compared to the rest of newies
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 03:16 PM
Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: unknown
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/
1 Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You
2 Wham! - Last Christmas
3 Jess Glynne - This Christmas
4 Justin Bieber - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
5 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
6-10
6 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
7 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
8 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
9 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas
10 Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas
11-20
11 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday
12 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody
13 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
14 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree
15 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
16 John Lennon, Yoko Ono and the Plastic Ono Band with the Harlem Community Choir - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
17 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep
18 Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas
19 Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year
20 Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime
21-30
21 Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock
22 Justin Bieber - Mistletoe
23 Kylie Minogue - Santa Baby
24 Coldplay - Christmas Lights
25 The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride
27 Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!
28 Katy Perry - Cozy Little Christmas ^
29 Ed Sheeran - Afterglow
30 José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad *
31-40
32 Brett Eldredge feat. Meghan Trainor - Baby, It's Cold Outside *
33 Idina Menzel & Michael Bublé - Baby, It's Cold Outside ^
34 Bing Crosby - White Christmas ^
35 Sam Smith - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas *
36 Liam Payne & Dixie D'Amelio - Naughty List *
37 Jamie Cullum - In the Bleak Midwinter *
38 Griff - Love is a Compass *
39 Sia - Santa's Coming for Us ^
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/
1 Michael Bublé - Christmas
2 Taylor Swift - evermore
3 Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
4 Little Mix - Confetti
5 Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By
6-10
6 Queen - Greatest Hits
7 Playboi Carti - Whole Lotta Red *
8 Pop Smoke - Shoot for the Stars Aim for the Moon
9 Sam Smith - Love Goes
10 Harry Styles - Fine Line
11-20
12 Elton John - Diamonds
14 Ariana Grande - Positions
15 Lewis Capaldi - Divinely Uninspired to a Hellish Extent
18 Taylor Swift - folklore
19 Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop ^
20 Frank Sinatra - Ultimate Christmas *
21-30
21 Jucie WRLD - Legends Never Die
22 Bing Crosby - Christmas Classics *
23 Lil Durk - The Voice *
24 ABBA - Gold: Greatest Hits ^
25 Nat "King" Cole - The Christmas Song *
27 The Kid LAROI - F*CK LOVE
28 Ed Sheeran - ÷
29 George Michael - Twenty Five ^
31-40
31 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours ^
33 Billie Eilish - WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE DO?
34 Choir of King's College Cambridge - Carols from King's College Cambridge *
35 King's College Choir - Christmas at King's *
36 Dermot Kennedy - Without Fear ^
37 Arctic Monkeys - AM ^
38 King's College Choir - Best Loved Christmas Carols *
40 The Beatles - 1 ^
Click on the above relevant links.
Posted by: Maestro 29th December 2020, 03:16 PM
Lmao that top 100 is quite something. Will be interesting to see how the non Christmas stuff recovers by Friday
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 03:18 PM
Sweet Melody must have avoided ACR but positions, Midnight Sky and Golden all seem to have succumbed!
Posted by: M@ngo 29th December 2020, 03:20 PM
Wow I haven't been on Buzzjack much in the last few days but is that literally all from Christmas day streams? No one's been streaming/downloading Christmas songs since the 26th, right?
Posted by: Jingle Jules 29th December 2020, 03:22 PM
I don't think Little Mix's position is that surprising as they are genuinely doing very well on the Amazon chart and they aren't that far behind on Spotify when you look at the numbers. I always thought they'd be contenders if still on SCR.
I agree with you about Jess's numbers being suspicious - but this doesn't feel suspicious to me.
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 03:22 PM
I haven't been on Buzzjack much in the last few days but is that literally all from Christmas day streams? No one's been streaming/downloading Christmas songs since the 26th, right?They have but not on the same levels, Mariah's still top 50 on Spotify today
Posted by: Bjork 29th December 2020, 03:26 PM
I agree with you about Jess's numbers being suspicious - but this doesn't feel suspicious to me.
L Mix are doing like 50K less daily than Whoopty and all the other newies
Will be interesting to see the sales and the difference between positions
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 03:28 PM
Yet they're #3 on Apple Music. It's not Amazon distorting Little Mix, it's just that the small 50k gap on Spotify can easily be overcome with other platforms, not to mention it doing well on iTunes and YouTube too.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 29th December 2020, 03:32 PM
Little Mix have been above Whoopty on Apple most of the time (They seem to switch at night) they're at #1 on Amazon while Whoopty is at 5.
It's a well known fact Amazon works way slower than other instant streaming sites..
Praying they somehow make it next week
Posted by: Herbs 29th December 2020, 03:41 PM
Omg Lad Baby is going to go 1-OUT aren’t they?!
Posted by: Mart!n 29th December 2020, 03:45 PM
So... only 3 tracks went down
Posted by: Dappy New Year 29th December 2020, 03:49 PM
LMAO not the entire top 25 being Christmas songs
of course it should calm down a bit by Friday but we could still get maybe 15-20 of them remaining top 40 this week?
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 03:52 PM
Non-festive songs in today's chart update to give us an idea of how next week might look! I've put the Xmas advert songs in brackets as they aren't fading as fast as the proper Xmas tracks but they're still on their way down it seems. I've excluded LadBaby too as that obviously won't be around next week.
1 Little Mix - Sweet Melody
2 Ed Sheeran - Afterglow
3 CJ - Whoopty
(Griff - Love is a Compass)
4 Ariana Grande - 34+35
(Becky Hill - Forever Young)
5 The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU
6 Miley Cyrus feat. Dua Lipa - Prisoner
(Celeste - A Little Love)
7 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - aradise
8 KSI feat. Craig David & Digital Farm Animals - Really Love
9 Taylor Swift - willow
10 Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am
11 24kGoldn feat. iann dior - Mood
12 Joel Corry feat. MNEK - Head & Heart
13 Ariana Grande - positions
14 Lil Nas X - HOLIDAY
15 Justin Bieber feat. Chance the Rapper - Holy
16 BTS - Dynamite
17 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
18 Central Cee - Loading
19 Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber - Monster
20 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky
21 Nathan Dawe & Little Mix - No Time for Tears
22 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade
23 Dua Lipa feat. DaBaby - Levitating
Posted by: Dappy New Year 29th December 2020, 03:56 PM
It looks very likely now that Ed Sheeran will be #1 next week then, rather than CJ, if he is ahead at this stage and still gaining on Spotify.
Little Mix I can't see sustaining their position as #1 non-Xmas song.
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 29th December 2020, 03:59 PM
Snowman for new peak please! If ONLY it wasn't on ACR
Posted by: ben08 29th December 2020, 04:06 PM
From OCC,
64 1 DON'T STOP ME EATIN' - LADBABY
Posted by: ben08 29th December 2020, 04:09 PM
From OCC Albums update chart,
1 7 CHRISTMAS - MICHAEL BUBLE
32 1 MCCARTNEY III - PAUL MCCARTNEY
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 04:10 PM
Album update about to be edited into the previous post x
Posted by: oflo84 29th December 2020, 04:12 PM
The "problem" for the non Christmas songs is that Positions is #1 today with 220k (1540k per week) and Mariah did 2400K on Christmas Eve only... and it's still on Top 50.
Let's see how many Christmas songs remain at Top100 and if AIWFCIY leads the first chart of 2021...
Posted by: UltraEvermore 29th December 2020, 04:14 PM
Hopefully Christmas will fall because a top 3 in the albums of evermore/future nostalgia/confetti would be perfect 😍😍
Posted by: Santa Haus 29th December 2020, 04:16 PM
COME ON 'Sweet Melody' - that'd make an amazing first #1 of 2021. Really hoping it can do it in the coming week(s)
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 04:16 PM
Album update edited into previous page
Posted by: Yog 29th December 2020, 04:19 PM
Sam returned in the top 10, we love longevity
Posted by: Slade 29th December 2020, 04:22 PM
Big climb for 'positions' in the albums as hoped hopefully a return to the top 10 is on the cards soon - a vinyl release or 'pov' pushed as a single would be ideal
Posted by: London81 29th December 2020, 04:24 PM
Wow all those Christmas songs still dominating the top 20. Thought it would have changed for this week’s chart. God I’d love it if sweet melody could clinch a number one 🙏 but I feel the following week may be Ed’s week. Great to see Taylor holding on hopefully to top 3!
Posted by: k👠th 29th December 2020, 04:24 PM
Dua Lipa #3 in the albums!?
Posted by: Anth 29th December 2020, 04:26 PM
Will a lot of the Christmas songs in the top 20 have fallen by the chart on Friday?
Posted by: Esmerelda 29th December 2020, 04:31 PM
Amazon must have a few truckloads of signed Jess Glynne CDs to "accidentally" deliver! Come through Alexa!
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th December 2020, 04:36 PM
Really happy to see mariah leading the way and kylies santa baby as high as 23, it should get kylie another week in the top 75.
Posted by: iain 29th December 2020, 04:42 PM
Paul McCartney down from 1 to 32 this week, physicals and downloads must be dire. I dread to think what album sales will be like.
Posted by: Maestro 29th December 2020, 04:51 PM
Are we expecting any sales info today?
Posted by: Zak 29th December 2020, 04:52 PM
Suddenly loving those Alexa streams since they're making Sweet Melody smash! At least it doesn't look as suspicious as Jess's did.
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 04:53 PM
Nope
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 04:58 PM
It's £4.99 everywhere
It's not been full price since week one.
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 04:58 PM
Crazy chart week. Christmas choirs galore and golden oldies.
Streaming playlists not only dominating the singles chart but also the albums chart this week
Posted by: iain 29th December 2020, 04:59 PM
Kylie’s sold 1,036 copies for her position at no 45 if that’s any help.
Posted by: gavindeejay 29th December 2020, 05:00 PM
Alot of the shops are closed due to being in Tier 4 restrictions so I can't imagine sales being very high on the album charts.
Posted by: Slade 29th December 2020, 05:03 PM
Plus the effect of buying physicals as Christmas gifts has now worn off - this week was always going to benefit acts that thrive more on streaming
Posted by: Yog 29th December 2020, 05:03 PM
It's not been full price since week one.
Regardless, an win is an win
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 05:03 PM
Streaming
Plus both versions of album £4.99 everywhere
Doesn't take much
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 05:05 PM
Plus both versions of album £4.99 everywhere
Doesn't take much
So why is Kylie not that high as well?
Let's not belittle other artists' success. It's impressive for Future Nostalgia to be that high again, it's not been top 5 since June.
Posted by: Dobby Helms 29th December 2020, 05:06 PM
No gift card effect? 
Posted by: Sour Candy 29th December 2020, 05:11 PM
Whoa didn't expect that many Xmas songs still in, but of course the Friday streams were gigantic (also Buble #1 thanks to them)
LadBaby going #1->out of top 75
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 05:14 PM
Let's not belittle other artists' success. It's impressive for Future Nostalgia to be that high again, it's not been top 5 since June.
Not sure I get you?
The query was why was Dua Lipa 3 in the Midweeks. I am stating the facts.
It's cheap and it's one of the best selling albums of year and worlds most popular artist. course it can get back up the charts and sell well
Kylie hasn't streamed well, is on no playlists whatsoever and album 6.99 not 4.99. Kylie sold 1000+ this week so she is doing ok.
It's a freaky week in album sales probably based on Xmas Day and Boxing Day playlists for gatherings.
I love Dua Lipa and I know the album has been a success.
Doesn't mean streaming and price isn't a big factor - It is
Posted by: Jason 29th December 2020, 05:23 PM
Shocked and not pleased to see Afterglow ahead of Whoopty. 
I'm not here to see Sheeran getting his 666th UK number 1 next week. 
I won't be surprised if Alexa's top 2 get the official UK top 2 this Friday.
Posted by: dandy* 29th December 2020, 05:24 PM
I'd be happy for Little Mix to get #1, it feels like it's been a big enough hit to deserve it and it would be a nice way for them to end their original line up.
Very much here for Taylor potentially returning to #1 in the albums too
Posted by: Bré 29th December 2020, 05:24 PM
Wow, this week is much more of a mess than I'd have ever predicted. Christmas Day streams for the Christmas songs really just being absurdly larger than the streams for every normal song at the moment... (and not helping that Boxing Day was still a somewhat stronger day for them than usual as well). Will just be another week until the charts return to normal then! (Won't mind if it means Coldplay might get another top 40 week tbh)
I didn't consider it was even possible that 'Sweet Melody' would remain on SCR, probably has a good chance of hitting #1 next week then (unless 'positions' gets a reset, but I'm assuming at this point that the mass resets aren't happening, or if anything may be more likely to be happening 2 weeks from now than next week). Still don't like the song at all but it's obviously been a huge hit and I won't begrudge them possibly getting another #1 this far into their career.
Aside: Playboi Carti really picked a terrible day to release, I feel like the hype around his album surely would have carried him to at least 1 top 40 hit a la Lil Uzi's Eternal Atake if he hadn't just dropped on a day when literally no one cared for non Christmas music. As it were, by the time more people might be giving it a chance, it's already been critically panned. Lel ~
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 05:41 PM
They did the chart of the year so far during first look on Sunday instead so I'd be gobsmacked if they did that this Friday! I expect they'll probably focus more on the non-festive songs below the top 10 where possible and minimise the amount of Xmas songs to play, but they obviously can't avoid them entirely
Posted by: Envoirment 29th December 2020, 05:44 PM
Come on "Sweet Melody"! Would love to see that get the #1 spot. Not sure it can overcome the gigantic Christmas day streams though. I hope "Midnight Sky" increases enough this week to go back onto SCR next week.
Miley #17 in the album chart is good - that should mean she'll rise some in the chart come Friday. She's been stuck at #17 for the last 3 weeks. Would love to see it get back in the top 10 at some point.
Posted by: Bjork 29th December 2020, 05:49 PM
oh didn't realise Buble could be #1 based on his albums streams on Xmas day alone
but looking at the Spotify data on the 25th, and excluding the top 2 tracks, the rest did between 197-388K, 280K on average
if my calculations are right that would be around 3.5K on Spotify alone
so depending on the market share, Buble's album could have done easily 7K on streams on Xmas day alone
Posted by: GTH 29th December 2020, 05:51 PM
Wasn’t expecting the update so nice to see though I expect to see some big changes by the end of the week. Mad the first non Xmas track is only 29 on that midweek chart! Next week will look very different I imagine.
Weird seeing those three kings college albums clustered together, with the one variation in the artist name. Guessing people listened to a playlist with them altogether that has helped all three albums out.
Posted by: Bré 29th December 2020, 05:51 PM
Would love to know the gap between Bublé and Taylor - hope that Taylor can get back to #1 this week but failing that, The Vamps might be about to get relieved of their record drop from #1 lel ~
Posted by: k👠th 29th December 2020, 05:52 PM
Plus both versions of album £4.99 everywhere
Doesn't take much
I know Future Nostalgia CD is discounted on HMV and Amazon (part of their Boxing Day sale), just didn't expect it to have that big of an effect!
Also #4 on iTunes
Posted by: ___∆___ 29th December 2020, 05:55 PM
Pleased to see Sam return to the Top 10
Signed copies are now £4.99 too which should help give it a further boost https://store.samsmithworld.com/*/*/Signed-Love-Goes-CD/6PA30000000
Posted by: Everton 29th December 2020, 05:56 PM
Chart show on 15 min longer as well number 1 get announce official chart website 1st. last radio 1 gone fill last 15 min something else. As bank holiday no news beat 4.30pm or 5.45pm
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 06:03 PM
Also #4 on iTunes
Yep the original CD and the remix CD both 4.99 so with sales tight she is doing very nicely
Posted by: Dappy New Year 29th December 2020, 06:05 PM
would be rather odd for radio 1 to have to play a load of christmas music on Jan 1st if indeed the normal songs don’t sell enough to catch up and kick them out the top 40 Lol
Posted by: Hadji 29th December 2020, 06:15 PM
Top 20 full of Xmas songs? Who on earth is still streaming Xmas songs even after Xmas?
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 06:16 PM
You realise this includes Christmas Day, right?
Posted by: Hadji 29th December 2020, 06:18 PM
Yes but I wasn’t expecting the top 20 to be filled with Xmas songs when you’ve also had the gift card effect and Xmas songs dying out
Posted by: FestiveOdyssey 29th December 2020, 06:19 PM
I really don't think the gift card effect is a thing anymore, surely not to any significant extent
Posted by: JosephCarey 29th December 2020, 06:19 PM
Christmas songs dying out doesn't matter loads when Christmas Day was absolutely gigantic, and the gift card effect is almost non-existent at this point.
Posted by: gooddelta 29th December 2020, 06:30 PM
Will Thursday streams give the Xmas songs a big end of the week boost? They'll be barely doing anything but the average over the week will bump them up a lot if that's how Thursday is calculated.
I guess the 'normal' songs have four days worth of streams to add at this point, as Spotify data won't be in for yesterday yet, so hopefully it will be a lot less of a whitewash by Friday. It definitely looks like Mariah's to lose though, would love to know the gap between her and Wham!, if they had published that and it was just a handful of copies I expect there'd be a mini campaign generated to get them there.
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 06:37 PM
Kylie and Dua Lipa coming for a Real Groove on Thursday.
Could go top 10 on download singles chart depending on what time it is released etc.
Fingers crossed it gets put on some streaming playlists
Posted by: Jingle Jules 29th December 2020, 06:52 PM
I guess the 'normal' songs have four days worth of streams to add at this point, as Spotify data won't be in for yesterday yet, so hopefully it will be a lot less of a whitewash by Friday. It definitely looks like Mariah's to lose though, would love to know the gap between her and Wham!, if they had published that and it was just a handful of copies I expect there'd be a mini campaign generated to get them there.
The algorithm should be clever enough to give the Christmas songs virtually zero for Thursday.
I can see Little Mix and Ed making the Top 5 and quite a lot of other “normal” songs being dotted through the final Top 20.
It’s true that a simple download campaign would probably be enough to get Wham! there, artificial as that would be. Seems unlikely that it will happen in this sleepy week though.
Posted by: TomJ1991 29th December 2020, 06:58 PM
LadBaby down to #64. I said last week I thought it could go 1-OUT. I still think it will.
Posted by: k👠th 29th December 2020, 07:02 PM
Could go top 10 on download singles chart depending on what time it is released etc.
Fingers crossed it gets put on some streaming playlists
Kylie's team better push for #1 on New Music Friday!
Posted by: SmileyKylie 29th December 2020, 07:03 PM
I'm just Hoping it's true and not a fake rumour
Am 50/50 at the moment as to the likelihood it's real
Posted by: Bjork 29th December 2020, 07:07 PM
I guess the 'normal' songs have four days worth of streams to add at this point, as Spotify data won't be in for yesterday yet, so hopefully it will be a lot less of a whitewash by Friday. It definitely looks like Mariah's to lose though, would love to know the gap between her and Wham!, if they had published that and it was just a handful of copies I expect there'd be a mini campaign generated to get them there.
Luckily it's not the average, but it's estimated based on algorithms that make predictions based on all existing Spotify data (machine learning).
Posted by: FestiveOdyssey 29th December 2020, 07:12 PM
Remixes don't usually get on NMF do they?
(I hope it does though)
Posted by: GTH 29th December 2020, 07:21 PM
(I hope it does though)
They have definitely had new remixes/featured versions on NMF in the past though it is by no means common to see. A Dua feature sounds big enough to make the UK one in what I imagine will be another sleepy week.
Posted by: Oliver 29th December 2020, 07:23 PM
Posted by: ___∆___ 29th December 2020, 07:25 PM
The gift card effect died off about 5+ years ago
Posted by: Bré 29th December 2020, 07:36 PM
Hadji still lives in a suspended reality where the Now! effect is still a thing as well. And where Christmas songs aren't Christmas songs if they haven't charted in the top 40 yet.
Posted by: FestiveOdyssey 29th December 2020, 07:39 PM
Speaking of effects, the TikTok impacted songs of 2020 were much stronger than 2019. Hopefully 2021 is even better! (looking positive so far with Mother Mother and The Neighbourhood).
Anyone up for a TikTok-boosted top 40 hits rate?
Posted by: Bjork 29th December 2020, 07:55 PM
there's a new Bieber single I believe, which could easily be #1 on NMF
Posted by: chartjack2 29th December 2020, 08:11 PM
Have any songs gone 1-OUT before? If not what is the largest drop?
Posted by: Bré 29th December 2020, 08:12 PM
'Three Lions' went 1-97, that's the record by far (LadBaby's song from last year is the only other one that's dropped out of the top 40 from #1, going 1-57). Looks like 2 of the top 3 biggest drops from #1 of all time are about to come in back to back weeks
Posted by: Hadji 29th December 2020, 08:22 PM
I expect a lot of the Xmas songs to drop out in tomorrow’s update
Posted by: Christmasteve201 29th December 2020, 08:31 PM
Wow what a chart update that is 😂! Hope the Xmas songs hold up as it’ll be interesting to hear a Christmas chart on New Years Day and even better see the rundown on MTV right up to 7th January lol.
Hope ‘Christmas’ remains as the top selling album, amazing such a huge album has only been number one for three weeks all together.
Would be a shame to see ‘Driving Home For Christmas’ falling back out of the top 10 as it’s more than likely to do by Friday - deserves a top 10 peak officially, might have to wait until next December.
Posted by: Mart!n 29th December 2020, 08:35 PM
As for further updates they are not guaranteed this week, Tuesdays could be the one and only. MW are on a Christmas break.
Posted by: Christmasteve201 29th December 2020, 08:37 PM
Do they not work from home anyway?
Posted by: IdentFan101 29th December 2020, 08:39 PM
I doubt it.
Posted by: Christmasteve201 29th December 2020, 08:39 PM
You doubt what?
Posted by: IdentFan101 29th December 2020, 08:40 PM
That Christmas songs will be still in the top 40 by Friday.
Posted by: Mart!n 29th December 2020, 08:41 PM
Doesn't look like it MW have still got last week's mids showing on their database.
Posted by: IdentFan101 29th December 2020, 08:43 PM
What does MW stand for anyway?
Posted by: djsakgra 29th December 2020, 08:48 PM
it wont changed until Friday!people are still streaming xmas songs until this day
Posted by: IdentFan101 29th December 2020, 08:49 PM
Why are people still streaming Christmas songs? Capital and Heart have stopped playing Christmas songs since Boxing Day.
Posted by: FestiveOdyssey 29th December 2020, 08:50 PM
Because it's still the Christmas season! For me I listen to them until NYD
Posted by: IdentFan101 29th December 2020, 08:51 PM
For me, Christmas is over after Christmas Day.
Posted by: Bré 29th December 2020, 08:56 PM
Christmas songs still get some residual streams after Christmas Day but it becomes pretty negligible very quickly. As much as people love to point out that Christmas is 'technically' not over until 6th January it's pretty clear that most people stop listening to Christmas songs after the 25th (with I suppose a slightly better showing on the 26th/27th than usual this year due to it being the weekend, and lockdown etc.)
Posted by: jimwatts 29th December 2020, 09:52 PM
I make that 70 Christmas songs in the top 100 update, and that's not counting Griff/Becky Hill/Celeste/Liam Gallagher/Ladbaby, so no way are 40 other songs coming to overtake Mariah by Friday It would be nice to think some Christmas songs could hold up enough to get new peaks, but I don't think that'll happen either (except maybe Snowman). I'd settle for The Pogues getting another week in the Top 10.
I don't see Little Mix improving on their #3 peak as I expect CJ and Ed will overtake next week, if not by Friday once the Spotify data catches up.
Posted by: ben08 29th December 2020, 10:10 PM
Music Week - a web site and a music newspaper.
Posted by: Prince of Pete 29th December 2020, 10:40 PM
I'll be listening to Christmas songs until Christmas is actually over on the 5th January!
Posted by: Christmasteve201 29th December 2020, 11:02 PM
Ah I see!
The main Xmas songs have been streamed so much on Xmas day and the resurgence of the old songs have been poor so many of them will still be there!
Posted by: daniellovesmusic 30th December 2020, 12:20 AM
Which songs are at numbers 26, 31 and 40 in the Tuesday midweeks?
Posted by: JosephCarey 30th December 2020, 12:25 AM
Click the link in the update post to find out
Posted by: Herbs 30th December 2020, 06:38 AM
Will be interesting to see how the Xmas songs do with 3 more days of other songs catching/overtaking them.
Posted by: Christmasteve201 30th December 2020, 08:35 AM
Same here I’ve will keep them on my own work playlist until Sunday and then have a clear out and add newer tracks to bring Jan in. Some like Sam Fender and Sam Smith might survive as they are seasonal!
Posted by: Doctor Blind 30th December 2020, 09:53 AM
This is the https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/ (posted a day later because of the Bank Holiday on Monday), we are unlikely to get Tuesday midweeks this week.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 30th December 2020, 10:32 AM
I'm hearing in the most recent update Wham! were 89 copies behind Mariah, is that true?
Posted by: Bjork 30th December 2020, 10:43 AM
Really? Where do you see that?
Some people info had sales data but they only posted kylies sales
Instead of the interesting sales ie mariah vs wham in singles, buble vs taylor in albums
Posted by: Doctor Blind 30th December 2020, 10:57 AM
It's close, around 400 sales.. but Mariah should hold.
Posted by: Dappy New Year 30th December 2020, 11:20 AM
the yearly Wham! for #1 campaign need to get their act together now in that case, this is the best chance they'll ever get of going to #1.
Mariah is doing better on streaming currently however, so she'll remain #1 unless there is a Wham sales push.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 30th December 2020, 11:34 AM
Some people info had sales data but they only posted kylies sales
Instead of the interesting sales ie mariah vs wham in singles, buble vs taylor in albums
Those Kylie sales were all that person had, because they got it from being posted on a Kylie fan site.
Posted by: Jingle Jules 30th December 2020, 11:35 AM
Do you have a feel for whether the likes of Little Mix and Ed still have a chance of beating Mariah? If it's a Monday update with Sunday streaming data missing their final sales might be around 3x whatever's showing in this update while the Christmas songs will hardly add anything.
Posted by: Glenn 69 30th December 2020, 11:46 AM
Mariah and Wham are the only Christmas tracks still on Spotify Top 200. Take it that means most of the rest will have gone from the Top 40 either today or Friday?
Posted by: Mart!n 30th December 2020, 11:54 AM
I reckon Jess Glynne could still be top 10-15, and a few others lower down, between Nos 31-40 end. Its really hard to predict what's coming back in.
Posted by: JosephCarey 30th December 2020, 12:25 PM
Fairly sure they'd be the Tuesday midweeks? I'm not sure an update is compiled at all on bank holidays (in past instances these OCC updates have definitely matched up with our outside source's Tuesday mids).
Posted by: Snow Spiider 30th December 2020, 12:38 PM
Not posted in a while so hello to members from years gone by (and some old chart mod friends) and hello to all new posters and those I haven't conversed with here before.
The Wham! vs Mariah chart battle this week is interesting.
Is Mariah 79 or ~400 ahead.
If someone has the breakdown, what are the splits in the totals between SES and Sales? Trying to work out of a Wham! ITunes/sales push could be enough to take it for them.
Posted by: ___∆___ 30th December 2020, 12:48 PM
Some people info had sales data but they only posted kylies sales
Instead of the interesting sales ie mariah vs wham in singles, buble vs taylor in albums
You seem to have a real issue with Kylie’s sales being posted each week - move along if they don’t interest you, they are posted on various Kylie forums and then copied on to here hence it being the only information available.
Posted by: Bjork 30th December 2020, 12:50 PM
^my issue is why not post the whole thing, who cares if Kylie is 45 or 46
Posted by: Sour Candy 30th December 2020, 12:53 PM
Potential Break Up Song to smash please!
Posted by: JosephCarey 30th December 2020, 12:55 PM
The info comes from Kylie forums, as per their post. The people who post Kylie data won't have the full midweeks.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 30th December 2020, 12:57 PM
Because they don't have the whole thing to post?
Posted by: Bjork 30th December 2020, 01:02 PM
I see, but that's why I asked, I just said if they have the info, can they post, it was the most diplomatic post ever
Posted by: Mart!n 30th December 2020, 01:04 PM
Because its a Kylie forum, they are not going to post anything else but Kylie information, Not really relevant to them to post the sales gap between Mariah & Wham got nothing to do with that social forum. Can't put it anymore clearer than that.
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On a different note nice to see my ex chart mod colleague online Snow Spiider
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Posted by: Christmasteve201 30th December 2020, 01:11 PM
Even if Wham is only a few copies behind they will both be selling less and less each hour now and by this date next week they will be back to the normal sales they have each week between January - September again.
Surely the chart will be packed with xmas songs still by Friday as the streams of the normal songs have been quite low all week for whatever reason?
Posted by: TomJ1991 30th December 2020, 01:50 PM
Mariah is doing better on streaming currently however, so she'll remain #1 unless there is a Wham sales push.
I would say their best chance they got was the year after George died, when they would have been a shoe-in for number 1 if Ed didn't release a load of versions of Perfect!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 30th December 2020, 06:18 PM
Surely the chart will be packed with xmas songs still by Friday as the streams of the normal songs have been quite low all week for whatever reason?
There are 12 versions of it in the Amazon top 80 right now, so even if they're both doing nothing perhaps that could be enough to make up for it if the difference really is 89 copies.
Posted by: Bjork 30th December 2020, 07:21 PM
if you wanna help Wham the easiest thing is to buy the song on iTunes, sure there are multiple versions on iTunes, get 10 friends and buy 10 different versions each, and you got 100 sales already
and you can do it on Amazon and all other platforms and thats even more
Posted by: adrianreavill83 30th December 2020, 07:39 PM
How close do you think the gap will be come Friday for No.1?
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th December 2020, 08:59 PM
In a way i dont want mariah to be back at number 1 as she will then hold the record for the biggest fall from number 1.
Posted by: Suedehead2 30th December 2020, 10:44 PM
The Wham! vs Mariah chart battle this week is interesting.
Is Mariah 79 or ~400 ahead.
If someone has the breakdown, what are the splits in the totals between SES and Sales? Trying to work out of a Wham! ITunes/sales push could be enough to take it for them.
Good to see you post again
Hope you had a good Christmas (insofar as it was allowed) and best wishes for the new year!
Posted by: themileshuntclub 30th December 2020, 11:08 PM
Just think, we could have two consecutive weeks where the Number 1 single drops out of the Top 100 the following week! (Almost certainly the Top 40 anyway, which would still be a new record.)
Posted by: Jamesmk1974 31st December 2020, 12:08 AM
I really hope Wham can make it. Been streaming them and watching you tube videos of Last Christmas ��If enough of us do this and publicise it, they could make it.
Posted by: Jingle Jules 31st December 2020, 12:15 AM
I wouldn’t bother watching the video on YouTube as:
a) you’d need to watch it 1,200 times to get 1 sale
b) streams after midnight tonight won’t count anyway as they’re estimated
A 24 hour downloading spree would work though! Can’t see much evidence of it rising on ITunes so far.
Posted by: Snow Spiider 31st December 2020, 12:22 AM
Hope you had a good Christmas (insofar as it was allowed) and best wishes for the new year!thank you Suedehead.
Good to see you continue to work so hard on these forms and I regularly read your weekly chart commentary posts on the front page, they're a great read and I'm a stats fan myself too.
Posted by: Suedehead2 31st December 2020, 08:52 AM
Good to see you continue to work so hard on these forms and I regularly read your weekly chart commentary posts on the front page, they're a great read and I'm a stats fan myself too.
Thanks!
Posted by: Robbie 31st December 2020, 11:02 AM
Can Wham! finally make No.1 with Last Christmas?
by Andre Paine
December 31st 2020 at 10:21AM
Mariah Carey has done it. And now Wham! could be about to repeat her trick of taking a Christmas classic to No.1.
Last Christmas (Sony CG) could finally reach a new peak at the top of the charts on Friday (January 1). The single (actually a double A-side with Everything She Wants) by George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley was famously held off the top spot by Band Aid for five weeks during December 1984.
In the Midweek sales flash, the beloved ’80s pop duo were just 89 sales behind Mariah Carey, who was on 34,888 by the end of Tuesday (Official Charts Company).
All I Want For Christmas Is You is attempting a return to the summit after LadBaby usurped Carey’s hit on Christmas Day. Carey’s festive favourite has already earned two weeks at No.1 and is chasing a third non-consecutive week at the top.
Crucially, though, Wham! have sales momentum. As festive streaming continues in late December, Last Christmas’ sales were up 11.2% week-on-week compared to 4.5% for Mariah Carey by the end of Tuesday. Wham! could now have pulled ahead of their chart rival.
Wham!’s last No.1 single was The Edge Of Heaven in 1986. The duo had four No.1s between 1984 and 1986.
Last Christmas has so far spent eight non-consecutive weeks at No.2 since 1984.
from musicweek.com
Posted by: Mart!n 31st December 2020, 11:10 AM
^^ Thanks Robbie, no updated mids on MW just checked, they still have last week's showing.
Posted by: Dappy New Year 31st December 2020, 11:10 AM
tomorrow's chart should be very interesting in which case especially if we don't get any mids today. I hope Wham! can somehow pull ahead given Mariah has already got her long awaited #1 peak.
Posted by: Jingle Jules 31st December 2020, 11:51 AM
35k is more than expected for Mariah and Wham! actually. They should definitely be safe from being overtaken by any non Christmas songs then.
Even though the gap was only 89 I can't see how Wham! will do it without some sort of download campaign, as the figures added since then will be a) very small and b) in Mariah's favour.
Posted by: Sour Candy 31st December 2020, 11:53 AM
I can't see how LC could close that gap given they are probably behind in streams?
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 31st December 2020, 12:02 PM
They are both gonna be streaming pretty much nil now anyway, and there's a small campaign going with people downloading all the versions on Amazon. I think they're gonna do it!
Posted by: Bjork 31st December 2020, 12:40 PM
hope people are downloading Wham from Amazon
on iTunes both Wham and Mariah are doing zero, not even top 100
and nothing on streams either, Wham is at like 900-ish on Apple Music now
Posted by: Sour Candy 31st December 2020, 12:47 PM
AIFCY had 46,217 streams on Spotify yesterday, that's NOT "pretty much nil" even though it's on ACR.
Posted by: ___∆___ 31st December 2020, 12:49 PM
Amazon Download Chart
Last Christmas -
8, 16, 18, 23, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 34, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 43, 44, 49, 50, 52, 55, 57, 71, 76
Posted by: Jingle Jules 31st December 2020, 01:03 PM
But I guess it's the gap between her and Wham! that counts. Say Wham! did 5k fewer; divide by 200 and that's only 25 chart sales difference. The download campaign just needs to add an extra few hundred and they can do it...
Posted by: Jason 31st December 2020, 01:25 PM
Last Christmas -
8, 16, 18, 23, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 34, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 43, 44, 49, 50, 52, 55, 57, 71, 76
OMG! Last Christmas has 24 positions in the top 76 on Amazon download chart at the moment really?
If that's the case, Last Christmas is guaranteed number 1 tomorrow if Jess Alexa Glynne doesn't usurp that number 1 spot in the last minute.
Posted by: Sour Candy 31st December 2020, 01:28 PM
As if Amazon's sales are high... I mean there are four Comin' Over Here's ahead of the highest LC and even that barely scraped the top 100 in midweeks. But anything is possible I guess.
Posted by: spiceboy 31st December 2020, 01:29 PM
I've given Wham a download, Last Christmas deserves to be #1 just as much as Mariah, she had her turn!
Posted by: joyride 31st December 2020, 01:30 PM
Amazon Digital is dead, most of those downloads will be just single digits.
Posted by: Bjork 31st December 2020, 01:42 PM
yes but the difference is tiny and single digits can make a difference
Posted by: GTH 31st December 2020, 01:44 PM
Same, would be a nice surprise for Wham to bag it tomorrow. As Ladbaby and the kunts are both higher still than the biggest version on Amazon, not expecting sales to be that great.
Looking forward to seeing how the chart shapes after that first midweek.
Posted by: No Sleeep 31st December 2020, 02:22 PM
Wham could have easily got it if the OCC had publicised the battle a bit more. I’m not surprised they haven’t, I’m sure they want people to just forget there’s a chart this week!
Posted by: ___∆___ 31st December 2020, 02:24 PM
Just about to do the same, it deserves a week at the top.
That’s all that’s needed this week though tbh - a handful of sales could be the difference between 1 and 2.
Posted by: gooddelta 31st December 2020, 02:29 PM
I've downloaded the Pudding Mix, as I have the original a million times over. I'm sure it will make no difference and that the gap probably widened a lot since those initial mids, but I'd love to see Wham! finally get there. I doubt there'll be much more than a few hundred copies in it, so I'd definitely urge anyone who wants to see them have a shot to download it today.
Posted by: stebags 31st December 2020, 02:45 PM
Just went on iTunes to buy Wham as amazon wouldn't let me & noticed Kylie x Dua Lipa's "Real Groove Studio 2054" was number 2 on there, released today.
What's with Thursday releases???
Posted by: Bjork 31st December 2020, 02:53 PM
Thursday releases give you visibility cos no one is releasing and sales are the lowest of the week
but only makes sense if the Friday has a very heavy schedule
nothing that's gonna be big on iTunes is released tomorrow, so they should have waited imho
Posted by: Sour Candy 31st December 2020, 03:03 PM
I don't think it ever makes sense for "fanbase acts"? They are never going to gain those lost sales for the following week. Release day is always the busiest sales day. (On streaming it might be different)
Posted by: No Sleeep 31st December 2020, 03:51 PM
Yep. Madonna does the same thing. So annoying. That day of wasted sales can make the difference between being #85 and being #58 (which might sound pathetic but I don’t care
)
Posted by: Borza 31st December 2020, 04:10 PM
If Wham miss out by a few sales due to the lack of information from the UK Chart company that will be a disgrace. We should be better informed to know how close this race actually is today.
Posted by: JosephCarey 31st December 2020, 04:10 PM
It's not unusual at all for there to be a lack of midweek info at this point in the year to be fair.
Posted by: Darren1905 31st December 2020, 04:37 PM
What's with Thursday releases???
This is a nice surprise- it’s improved on the original. Hope this is a hit!
Posted by: Rafael x 31st December 2020, 04:41 PM
praying for liam to hit t40 this week
Posted by: CHRIS-TMAS 31st December 2020, 04:52 PM
No because that may lead to a form of chart fixing in that people who had no intention of streaming or downloading the track may do so to get it to No.1.
Posted by: Envoirment 31st December 2020, 04:56 PM
Currently streaming Wham! on Spotify and downloaded a copy on amazon. With it being so close, every little helps!
Posted by: No Sleeep 31st December 2020, 04:59 PM
Well, I wouldn’t bother streaming since Thursday streams are just made up anyway
Posted by: Jingle Jules 31st December 2020, 05:57 PM
My iTunes video chart is showing Wham! in all the Top 6 spots. No idea how many sales that means.
Posted by: Dappy New Year 31st December 2020, 05:59 PM
Zero, considering music video sales don't count (unless they started counting them when they added YouTube?).
Posted by: Jingle Jules 31st December 2020, 06:07 PM
Ah OK, well in that case I’ve probably ended 2020 with my silliest comment.
The fans who are buying them must think it counts though!
Posted by: Chig66 31st December 2020, 06:13 PM
I notice that today's industry update hasn't made its way onto here yet, but I can confirm that Wham! are #1 today and LadBaby are #74!
Posted by: No Sleeep 31st December 2020, 06:13 PM
What!
source?
Posted by: Mart!n 31st December 2020, 06:28 PM
by Andre Paine
December 31st 2020 at 10:21AM
Mariah Carey has done it. And now Wham! could be about to repeat her trick of taking a Christmas classic to No.1.
Last Christmas (Sony CG) could finally reach a new peak at the top of the charts on Friday (January 1). The single (actually a double A-side with Everything She Wants) by George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley was famously held off the top spot by Band Aid for five weeks during December 1984.
In the Midweek sales flash, the beloved ’80s pop duo were just 89 sales behind Mariah Carey, who was on 34,888 by the end of Tuesday (Official Charts Company).
All I Want For Christmas Is You is attempting a return to the summit after LadBaby usurped Carey’s hit on Christmas Day. Carey’s festive favourite has already earned two weeks at No.1 and is chasing a third non-consecutive week at the top.
Crucially, though, Wham! have sales momentum. As festive streaming continues in late December, Last Christmas’ sales were up 11.2% week-on-week compared to 4.5% for Mariah Carey by the end of Tuesday. Wham! could now have pulled ahead of their chart rival.
Wham!’s last No.1 single was The Edge Of Heaven in 1986. The duo had four No.1s between 1984 and 1986.
Last Christmas has so far spent eight non-consecutive weeks at No.2 since 1984.
And there's a vintage feel to the albums chart, too. Michael Buble's 2011 LP Christmas is ahead of Taylor Swift's Evermore in the battle for the year-end No.1. It would be the first time that Buble's festive collection has reached the summit since its initial release nine years ago.
Sales for Michael Buble's Christmas (Warner Records) have now topped 3.1 million.
The above report was posted earlier today, but no mention of Wham! been #1, mind you it was posted 10:30 this morning
Posted by: sammy01 31st December 2020, 06:38 PM
I dont get how Wham could be #1 in today's update? Mariah is ahead on all streaming services isn't she and downloads sales are so low to even sell a couple of hundred downloads would be very obvious.
Posted by: JosephCarey 31st December 2020, 06:39 PM
They weren't even a hundred copies behind earlier in the week so it's not that impossible
Posted by: Envoirment 31st December 2020, 06:44 PM
Considering Mariah's streams aren't that far ahead, especially consdering both are on ACR, Wham! could easily beat her through their higher downloads. A couple hundred downloads is all it would take to get Wham! ahead of her. And considering they have 10+ versions charting on amazon it looks like they could do it!
Posted by: Bjork 31st December 2020, 06:46 PM
hope they do it, Mariah has had her time
Posted by: ___∆___ 31st December 2020, 06:49 PM
Last Christmas -
8, 16, 18, 23, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 34, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 43, 44, 49, 50, 52, 55, 57, 71, 76
Another boost on Amazon and now 5 versions in the Top 20 and holding every position from 19-31
even if sales are low it could make a difference 8, 12, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 34, 35, 37, 38, 39, 44, 46,.
Posted by: Bjork 31st December 2020, 06:55 PM
so if I understand it well, Wham were 89 sales behind on Wed mids but are now ahead on today mids,
so with this extra push on Amazon downloads, it should be enough to guarantee the #1
Posted by: joyride 31st December 2020, 06:59 PM
Do you happen to have the stats?
Posted by: joyride 31st December 2020, 07:03 PM
so with this extra push on Amazon downloads, it should be enough to guarantee the #1
They were 89 behind on Tuesday. On Wednesday Mariah was out streaming them and then today they've had a massive sales increase. In the end it may come down to what the OCC estimate for today!
Posted by: joyride 31st December 2020, 07:03 PM
so with this extra push on Amazon downloads, it should be enough to guarantee the #1
They were 89 behind on Tuesday. On Wednesday Mariah was out streaming them and then today they've had a massive sales increase. In the end it may come down to what the OCC estimate for today!
Posted by: Road Salt Mixer 31st December 2020, 07:03 PM
So this chart will still be dominated by Christmas songs 
It's a bit depressing I think that a Christmas song will still be #1 when the chart is revealed on January 1st.
Posted by: joyride 31st December 2020, 07:05 PM
Well, it still is Christmas 
Posted by: adrianreavill83 31st December 2020, 07:12 PM
this is getting really interesting now
Posted by: Jay❄ 31st December 2020, 07:23 PM
I'm about to as well! Hope they hold on
Posted by: djsakgra 31st December 2020, 07:30 PM
personally i m still listsening xmas songs until 3/1
also i would be happy if wham take it this week
mariah done it.its wham turn
Posted by: T Boy 31st December 2020, 07:36 PM
It's a bit depressing I think that a Christmas song will still be #1 when the chart is revealed on January 1st.
I fail to see how it’s more depressing than a non Christmas songs getting there. Plus if Last Christmas does make it after waiting 36 years, that doesn’t seem depressing to me.
Posted by: Doctor Blind 31st December 2020, 07:38 PM
Wham! have been slowly eating away at Mariah's slender lead through the week, barring any irregularities with the 'estimated' SES for Thursday (we looking at you OCC!) they should against all expectations take the number 1.
Very odd week !
Posted by: Festivus 31st December 2020, 08:17 PM
It's a bit depressing I think that a Christmas song will still be #1 when the chart is revealed on January 1st.
People snap out of that Christmas spirit like it was a drunken stupor...
Where’s your Christmas spirit gone? It’s still the festive season!
Posted by: Thom Xmas Kite 31st December 2020, 08:20 PM
My Christmas spirit is pretty dead but my 80s spirit never dies, so I just bought a copy of Wham!
Posted by: spiceboy 31st December 2020, 08:30 PM
Oh brilliant hope they hold on... I've just downloaded the remix too now lol
Posted by: pippa 31st December 2020, 09:02 PM
A Wham number 1 would nice.
Like Mariah Carey, the song has waited too long to achieve Number 1 status.
Posted by: Dappy New Year 31st December 2020, 09:27 PM
cmon OCC fix it against Mariah one last time!!1
Posted by: Bré 31st December 2020, 10:19 PM
Congrats to Mariah on being spared the record for biggest fall from #1 
Posted by: Christmasteve201 31st December 2020, 10:47 PM
It's a bit depressing I think that a Christmas song will still be #1 when the chart is revealed on January 1st.
And still be number one until the 7th January
Posted by: Christmasteve201 31st December 2020, 10:50 PM
It’s all a fix once Wham have it the OCC will change the rules banning all old Xmas songs older than 3 years on the 4th Jan!
Posted by: Jason 1st January 2021, 12:57 AM
I hope so tbh.
Posted by: Bré 1st January 2021, 03:11 AM
Bookmarking this for when this doesn't happen
Posted by: SmileyKylie 1st January 2021, 08:52 AM
Hoping Kylie and Dua Lipa make it into the top 100 downloaded songs of the week with their 1 day old Real Groove Remix .
Posted by: IdentFan101 1st January 2021, 09:04 AM
I'm hoping it's the chart of the year today instead because I'd rather listen to best songs of the year rather than Christmas songs.
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