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 Body Language ● album discussion, 9th album ● 2003 |
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 14th May 2020, 03:55 PM
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Body Language was a courageous move after the roaring success of Fever.
That said, it shows Kylie, when she moves away from pop she loses fans. Each time Kylie moves slightly away from pop the follow up leads her back to it with improvements. After Body Language came 2 great singles, I Believe In You and Giving You Up. Kiss Me Once was another slight move away from pop and back she came with the wonderful Golden. The same could be said for Light Years following in the footsteps of Impossible Princess. |
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14th May 2020, 07:57 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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Ya when kylie sticks to pop the audience react better. It's a shame she went so far away in sound from fever with body language as if she hadn't I really think she would have had a far bigger selling album. She def didnt take full advantage of the bug success by following it up with something similar. If I believe in you was the lead single on the fever follow up things would have been different.
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14th May 2020, 08:16 PM
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I would have preferred something similar to Fever as it was a style I enjoyed and the market enjoyed what Kylie was offering.
Body Language R n B lavour falls flat and the songs in large lack clear identity. There was braveness in the move by Kylie but it was a disappointing move. |
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15th May 2020, 01:51 AM
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It was brave but I'd have preferred something safer.
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15th May 2020, 10:03 AM
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I appreciate and respect the fact she didn't just spit out a carbon copy of Fever though, even though it would have been the easy and predictable thing to do.
I do still have very special memories attached to the album and I probably wouldn't change anything (except 'Secret' being a single, I'll never get over that). I'd also say the album is largely electro-pop than R&B. |
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15th May 2020, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(pippa @ May 14 2020, 04:55 PM)  Body Language was a courageous move after the roaring success of Fever. That said, it shows Kylie, when she moves away from pop she loses fans. Each time Kylie moves slightly away from pop the follow up leads her back to it with improvements. After Body Language came 2 great singles, I Believe In You and Giving You Up. Kiss Me Once was another slight move away from pop and back she came with the wonderful Golden. The same could be said for Light Years following in the footsteps of Impossible Princess. How is Kiss Me Once a move away from pop? I fully get that you don't like the album, but it's as about as pop as you can get. |
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15th May 2020, 02:33 PM
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The album feels more dubstep R&B in many parts than pop.
Most of the tracks are not dancefloor fillers and lack the feel good intensity that many Kylie tracks usually offer. |
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15th May 2020, 02:57 PM
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Body Language lacks a killer track that propels it to the stardom Fever enjoys. Slow provided a fantastic beginning but nowhere near as good as Head. Red Blooded Woman has an awesome video.
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15th May 2020, 08:11 PM
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Forum listening party for BL next Friday at 7.30pm
 http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=233774
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15th May 2020, 10:28 PM
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So I've given this album another go (for the rate mainly, but also to see if it grew) and I think it's even more tedious than before. Some of the album tracks are painfully forgettable :'( Nothing is sticking with me. I will keep because I am sure there is goodness somewhere within it, but this is not what I want from Kylie. I'm sorry Liam
 !!! 'Loving Days' stands out as the strongest album track, possibly?
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15th May 2020, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(Hauspital* @ May 15 2020, 11:28 PM) So I've given this album another go (for the rate mainly, but also to see if it grew) and I think it's even more tedious than before. Some of the album tracks are painfully forgettable :'( Nothing is sticking with me. I will keep because I am sure there is goodness somewhere within it, but this is not what I want from Kylie. I'm sorry Liam !!! 'Loving Days' stands out as the strongest album track, possibly?Generic R&B-lite pop - not an area Kylie should ever venture in to ever again tbh 
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15th May 2020, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Hauspital* @ May 15 2020, 11:28 PM) So I've given this album another go (for the rate mainly, but also to see if it grew) and I think it's even more tedious than before. Some of the album tracks are painfully forgettable :'( Nothing is sticking with me. I will keep because I am sure there is goodness somewhere within it, but this is not what I want from Kylie. I'm sorry Liam !!! 'Loving Days' stands out as the strongest album track, possibly?Aw well at least you like 'Loving Days'! That was the first album track to hit me. Can you hear similarities in the instrumental with Janet's 'Come Back to Me' towards the end? |
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15th May 2020, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(___∆___ @ May 15 2020, 11:31 PM) Generic R&B-lite pop - not an area Kylie should ever venture in to ever again tbh Generic R&B lite pop is a brilliant description of the material Body Language offers. |
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16th May 2020, 12:17 AM
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I'm hoping the next listening party will help me out with this album, I will be listening to this a few times in its entirety and something outside slow and chocolate may click with me.
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14th November 2020, 02:04 AM
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I had no idea what to expect when I played this. I hadn’t even heard Slow before
 I did a bit of reading up on the general reception to the album which I know you shouldn’t really before you listen as it could make you biased for or against but I was just really curious. And I adore the album so much  I get the criticisms that it’s not really Kylie and she’s trying to be something she’s not, but sultry lyrics and rhythms have always been part of Kylie’s repertoire, not in the way of this album but it’s an electro-pop record, again not a world away from her ‘usual’ material (from 2000 onwards, I haven’t started 80s and 90s Kylie albums yet x). The production on this album is so goooood  Really pulsating and silky, ik that sounds cringe but it’s true :’) There’s a lot to unpack with every song. The production doesn’t overpower her voice either, other than a few moments they blend perfectly. Her voice actually sounds better than on any of the albums I’ve heard so far, I love especially on this album when the production is mixed with her higher register.It’s not without fault, that one-two punch of I Feel 4 U and Someday as the worst tracks on the record (the former mostly, an irritation) was choices! But they’re not even bad and there’s a heap of highlights. Slow, Secret, Promises, Sweet Music, Chocolate and After Dark were my faves. It was different, but for me she pulled it off. Ranking of the albums I’ve listened to: 1. Fever 2. Aphrodite 3. Body Language 4. Disco 5. Light Years 6. Golden 7. Kiss Me Once Not much between 3-5 to be fair! Golden is also a very strong album 
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14th November 2020, 03:00 AM
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We're all Glitter and Tears in the Moonlight...
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My Body Language ranking:
01. Slow 02. Secret (Take You Home) 03. Red Blooded Woman 04. Chocolate 05. Loving Days 06. Still Standing 07. Promises 08. Sweet Music 09. After Dark 10. Obsession 11. I Feel For You 12. Someday |
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14th November 2020, 03:07 AM
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I loved reading your reaction, Andrew! I'm actually delighted that you love BL. It's one of the "dark horse"s in Kylie's discography and divides fans' opinions.
This came out after Fever, after Kylie was on top of the world with her sleek, robotic, somewhat minimal dance-pop sound. Nobody expected the followup to sound like Body Language! That's one of the reasons it divided fans. I was thrown off too, but grew to love the album. I love the mix of electro, 80s synthpop, and R&B/hip-hop. I find it a bit less catchy than Fever, but more sophisticated and definitely more rhythmic. I don't love everything about BL. After Obsession, the final stretch of the album feels very patchy to me. But I do love the bonus tracks and B-sides! Off the top of my head, I remember Cruise Control, Soul on Fire, City Games, Almost a Lover, and the incredible Slo Motion It's very interesting that you enjoy her vocals the most on this, versus the other Parlophone and BMG albums. She is SUPER breathy on this album. I get the feeling her whispery, "helium" vocals are another reason why BL is divisive in the fanbase. Even a BL lover like me would prefer less breathy, "chipmunky" vocals on many of the songs  The 3 videos from this album are also some of Kylie's best videos, IMO. Overall, I love BL. Now with DISCO in the mix, though, I'm unsure if BL stays in my Top 3 or Top 5 of Kylie's albums 
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14th November 2020, 04:07 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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As much as I dont really love the album it was a brave move by kylie and it highlights kylie doesnt always play safe and it equally highlights many of her fans simoly prefer more upbeat pop kylie which kylie thankfully always returns to.
I think across kylies 15 studio albums she shows diversity as her albums have a wide variety of sounds. Right now she seems to be on a roll delivering what her fans really want and enjoy and I'm enjoying kylie as much as I ever did. |
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14th November 2020, 05:10 PM
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Break the tension
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1. Secret (Take You Home)
2. Slow 3. Loving Days 4. Chocolate 5. Sweet Music 6. After Dark 7. Still Standing 8. Red Blooded Woman 9. Promises 10. Obsession 11. I Feel For You 12. Someday Those last two are definitely the worst songs by far, everything else has its place. |
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15th December 2020, 05:11 PM
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Sugar Like Apple Pie
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Currently listening to Body Language for the first time properly, has she performed 'Loving Days' somewhere before? It sounds very familiar.
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