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BuzzJack Music Forum _ R&B and Hip-Hop _ Lil Dicky - Freaky Friday (feat. Chris Brown)

Posted by: TMD_24Quavo Mar 17 2018, 11:01 AM

This is well err.. Something. Lil Dicky known for you well know released a song called Freaky Friday recently and it's just outside the top 10 on iTunes and has debuted inside the top 40 on Spotify. This features Chris Brown as a featured artist but also cameo vocals from Ed Sheeran, DJ Khaled (ANOTHER ONE) and err.. Kylie Jenner. I mean WTF is those lyrics from her?



On the good hand however, this is produced by Benny Blanco (Connected to Ed Sheeran) and DJ Mustard and that beat is pretty amazing. The rest of the song, I'll let you judge

Posted by: ML Hammer95 Mar 17 2018, 01:23 PM

This will be huge won't it.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Mar 17 2018, 01:32 PM

I love it in conjunction with the video. laugh.gif

Otherwise, no.

Posted by: TMD_24Quavo Mar 17 2018, 01:43 PM

Gonna love the radio DJ's saying Lil Dicky. biggrin.gif

I think there needs to be a better edit before this gets sent to radio. I suppose they can cut out Kylie Jenner's bit out and remove the bit where Chris Brown keeps reapeating the N word.

Posted by: Dobbo Mar 17 2018, 03:55 PM

This year's I'm The One?

Posted by: Liаm Mar 17 2018, 04:06 PM

The Kendall Jenner bit LMAOOOO omg


This is kinda awful but catchy af!

Posted by: JosephSprayberry Mar 17 2018, 04:21 PM

I could see this being a bit of a guilty pleasure tbh :') I mean, it's objectively terrible, but like Liam said it's very catchy. The last 30 seconds in particular LMAO

Posted by: J▲hq Mar 17 2018, 04:30 PM

Well this is the best thing I've ever watched and listened to

Posted by: BridgeCow Mar 17 2018, 05:27 PM

The video makes this tbh, it's sooo terrible but also amazing

Posted by: Bré Mar 17 2018, 06:18 PM

Simultaneously the worst and best thing ever. (It's a little questionable that there are a couple of lyrics basically making light of the whole Chris Brown/Rihanna incident but other than that this is a funny concept / video, the ending with the Ed, Khaled and Kendall cameos was pretty hilarious in particular. I don't really get why someone would want to hear the song without the video but hey laugh.gif)

Posted by: troylovesmusic Mar 17 2018, 06:44 PM

I shamelessly love this quite a lot laugh.gif

Posted by: mdh Mar 17 2018, 07:48 PM

trash

Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 17 2018, 07:50 PM

To think that people can appreciate Chris Brown drama.gif

Posted by: The Hissmobile Mar 17 2018, 08:54 PM

QUOTE
this is produced by Benny Blanco (Connected to Ed Sheeran) and DJ Mustard and that beat is pretty amazing


I did miss the DJ Mustard style production, which I like much more than trap production!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 17 2018, 10:36 PM

I listened to it before finding out Lil Dicky is a comedy rapper, I had no idea what was going on! I really do quite like it though, it's very funny.

Posted by: Mack. Mar 17 2018, 10:50 PM

This is pretty bad but catchy for some reason.


Posted by: Mack. Mar 18 2018, 10:20 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 17 2018, 08:50 PM) *
To think that people can appreciate Chris Brown drama.gif

Don't think on here anyone is appreciating him.

Posted by: Dexton Mar 19 2018, 01:44 AM

This is much better than I was expecting laugh.gif Quite enjoyed some of Chris Browns stuff before but I didn’t realise Lil Dicky was a comedy rapper until the video - so I literally thought he would be another 5ft tall, slurred speech, 96% tatttoed rapper rotf.gif

Posted by: ML Hammer95 Mar 20 2018, 09:37 PM

Already #13 on Spotify. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 20 2018, 10:17 PM

Kendall’s part is the only good part of this song.

Posted by: Hayzayy Mar 23 2018, 08:28 AM

AWFUL.

Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 24 2018, 10:50 PM

QUOTE(Hayzayy @ Mar 23 2018, 08:28 AM) *
AWFUL.

AGREED! Don’t know why Buzzjack are loving this.. laugh.gif

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Mar 24 2018, 11:00 PM

I don't like it as a song, but in conjunction with the video I find it really quite comical.

I still would never even dream of listening to this without its video accompaniment, and I don't get why anyone would. It doesn't even make sense without it.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 Mar 25 2018, 01:45 AM

This is already in rotation in certain clubs R&B rotation - a sign that this will do very well.

After being unconvinced, I can totally see its hit appeal without the video. The song is very catchy in its own right and the clubs are playing this without the cameos at the end.

Posted by: JosephSprayberry Mar 25 2018, 01:59 AM

Whilst the video is an important part of the package, I think it serves its purpose in song form too. Ultimately, it's catchy, would undoubtedly sound great in a club and nobody really cares about the lyrical content by that point.

It's been in my head all week laugh.gif

Posted by: Dexton Mar 25 2018, 06:35 AM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 21 2018, 06:17 AM) *
Kendall’s part is the only good part of this song.


What world are you living in laugh.gif

Posted by: The Hissmobile Mar 25 2018, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 20 2018, 11:17 PM) *
Kendall’s part is the only good part of this song.


I do like DJ Khaled's part though biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 25 2018, 10:51 AM

QUOTE(Dexton @ Mar 25 2018, 07:35 AM) *
What world are you living in laugh.gif

Earth - you stan Filthy so don’t come for me

Posted by: Dexton Mar 25 2018, 11:02 AM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 25 2018, 06:51 PM) *
Earth - you stan Filthy so don’t come for me


kink.gif

Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 25 2018, 11:04 AM

Although saying that, Filthy is an anthem compared to this

Posted by: Dexton Mar 25 2018, 11:33 AM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 25 2018, 07:04 PM) *
Filthy is an anthem


I’ll take that wink.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Tombo Mar 29 2018, 10:03 PM

I really like this song, the video is hilarious too!

Posted by: Chez Wombat Mar 30 2018, 09:42 PM

I'm a bit late to this but this video is genius, that's one of the best things I've seen this year, the ending in particular *.* I am a bit surprised it's taking off as a song though, it really doesn't make any sense separated from context.

Posted by: cqmisa Mar 30 2018, 10:36 PM

There’s a video going round of him choking a girl apparently...

Posted by: Mack. Mar 30 2018, 11:18 PM

QUOTE(cqmisa @ Mar 30 2018, 11:36 PM) *
There’s a video going round of him choking a girl apparently...

It was Chris Brown, they were joking around apparently.
This song makes me no sense to me.

Posted by: Tombo Mar 31 2018, 01:01 AM

The song is hilarious and deserves its success!

Posted by: Dircadirca Mar 31 2018, 06:04 AM

Can't decide what's worse, the fact that this is accepted despite the fact it makes a joke about domestic violence in an egregiously bad time for that, the fact that Lil Dicky is a culture vulture who only decided to become a rapper as a way to advance his career in different fields, the fact that as a white guy in a largely black culture, rather than respect it, had a previous hit song specifically lampooning it, or the fact that the same people who deride every rap song that isn't sanitised enough to get played on adult contemporary stations will probably love this and sing along to Chris Brown saying the n-word several times because 'LOL SO FUNNY', or the fact that the song closes with some casual misogyny because it's easier to be offensive than to actually craft clever humour.

Belongs in landfill.

Posted by: Dexton Mar 31 2018, 06:34 AM

I would hardly say it’s joking about domestic violence. “Ain’t nobody judging 'cause I’m black or my controversial past” is the closest and even then its barely something worth commenting on.

Lyrically it’s offensive at times but not to the point where I think anyone could actually say “wow this song offends me”

Cringe is the word I’d use rather than offense

Posted by: Dobbo Mar 31 2018, 06:40 AM

People are far too soft these days if this is seen as offensive.

Posted by: Jack Mar 31 2018, 10:00 AM

I am for once with Cqmerqn, people saying it “deserves” success. Chris Brown does not deserve success in the f***ing slightest. He is an absolute pig and by streaming/downloading this trash we are just validating his behaviour.

Posted by: Jonjo Mar 31 2018, 02:36 PM

QUOTE(Mack. @ Mar 31 2018, 12:18 AM) *
It was Chris Brown, they were joking around apparently.
This song makes me no sense to me.
You'd think he'd be a bit more careful nowadays and to me, it shows that he will never change and he really isn't sorry for what he's done. Whether it's a "joke" or not, this cannot be cast off as one. At no point is strangling a woman (or anyone) a "joke". I don't understand why they're trying to pass it off as that. Even if the woman was in on it, he clearly has violent tendancies and at what point do you even get someone to agree to being strangled? "Ohhh I know what will be funny. If I strangle you [or you strangle me] it'll be soooo funny lololololol"

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 31 2018, 11:00 AM) *
I am for once with Cqmerqn, people saying it “deserves” success. Chris Brown does not deserve success in the f***ing slightest. He is an absolute pig and by streaming/downloading this trash we are just validating his behaviour.
Completely agreed. It pisses me off that he seemingly still has any sort of career. It's vile.

Posted by: JosephAvery Mar 31 2018, 05:46 PM

I think Chris Brown is abhorrent as a person and I'm quite amazed that his career didn't die off after the Rihanna incident but I wouldn't agree that downloading or streaming the track validates his behaviour. Some just find it easier than others to separate an artist's personality from their music. His past doesn't matter to me when the song is playing because it's a few minutes of light-hearted enjoyment! Doesn't mean I like him as a person (or even as an artist, I very rarely like a Chris Brown song) and I certainly don't condone what he did. (having said that, I haven't downloaded or streamed it)

Posted by: Jack Mar 31 2018, 05:58 PM

If that was the case then people like Janet Jackson and Iggy Azalea would still be getting hits. I get what you mean, but I do get the impression that unfortunately a lot of people don’t see what he’s done as a big deal sad.gif.

I like the song itself and do like quite a few of his songs but I won’t ever stream or listen to it legally.

Posted by: Mack. Apr 1 2018, 12:22 AM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Mar 31 2018, 03:36 PM) *
You'd think he'd be a bit more careful nowadays and to me, it shows that he will never change and he really isn't sorry for what he's done. Whether it's a "joke" or not, this cannot be cast off as one. At no point is strangling a woman (or anyone) a "joke". I don't understand why they're trying to pass it off as that. Even if the woman was in on it, he clearly has violent tendancies and at what point do you even get someone to agree to being strangled? "Ohhh I know what will be funny. If I strangle you [or you strangle me] it'll be soooo funny lololololol"

Completely agreed. It pisses me off that he seemingly still has any sort of career. It's vile.

He don't give a monkeys. No I don't see that as a joke. He always be a volatile person. I wouldn't if he got into trouble again. It was vile what he did to Rihanna. I'm amazed myself he still has a career.


Posted by: Dexton Apr 1 2018, 01:28 AM

I fully understand that many people do not like Chris Brown, what he has done in the past is unforgivable I agree however does everyone feel the same about other celebrities with similar if not worst pasts?

Johnny Depp’s divorce with Amber Heard came from “psychological and physical abuse” with her lawyer providing startling images of her covered in bruises.

Similarly Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie’s divorce came shorter after an altercation on a flight where Brad was arguing with his teenage son which apparently escalated.

Jon Hamm was involved in a serious hazing incident in college which left a pledge with a fractured spine, he also almost lost a kidney.

Sean Penn (against Madonna), Emma Roberts (against Evan Peters), Mel Gibson (against Oksana Grigorieva), Charlie Sheen (against Brooke Mueller), and countless NFL players have also been charged with forms of domestic abuse and in some cases battery yet in many cases continue to have successful careers.

Keith Moon of The Who was involved a drunk driving incident where his own chauffeur was crushed under a limo driven by Moon whilst trying to drive through a crowd to escape paparazzi/drunk people.

I’m not trying to make up for what Brown did in any way at all but it’s a very interesting and heartbreaking subject to see how some celebrities are hung out to dry in the public eye whereas others aren’t affected in the slightest by their own controversy’s.

Posted by: Jonjo Apr 1 2018, 11:22 AM

Personally, apart from Brad (which I'll explain in a min), I don't really care for any of those names you mentioned laugh.gif. So I guess not? But actors and actresses to me, are different. I don't invest in them as much as I do the film/tv shows they are in etc... When I watch a film, I very rarely watch it coz "so and so is in it". I'll watch it because I like the idea of the film or the trailer intrigues me etc.. and there are other elements to it, unlike songs/popstars. I invest in the artist a lot with music. Which is why I think it's harder for popstars to bounce back from their troubled lives/controversies.

Example: The lead singer from Lost Prophets. Had it been "just the drummer" and not the singer, I think they would've just replaced him and we'd have new material from them etc... but with it being the lead singer and essentially the face of the group, it was much harder to come back from.

Brad Pitt I genuinely had no idea about the altercation until you just mentioned it. Usually I just see that they split and don't really invest anymore tbh. But Brad is someone who I respect as an actor, he's one of my favourite actors and (I don't know how true those reports are/if they're confirmed) if it is true, then I'll be disappointed, but it's not gonna make me think any less of 'Se7en' or 'Fight Club' etc... Coz I invest in the films and not so much the actors (if that makes sense laugh.gif)

Basically, I feel like most of the time, with music, if you get an interest in a song/album, then you become invested in the artist, which I find to be different if it's anyone in film or TV etc..

Posted by: Dircadirca Apr 1 2018, 11:47 AM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Apr 1 2018, 07:22 PM) *
Brad Pitt I genuinely had no idea about the altercation until you just mentioned it. Usually I just see that they split and don't really invest anymore tbh. But Brad is someone who I respect as an actor, he's one of my favourite actors and (I don't know how true those reports are/if they're confirmed) if it is true, then I'll be disappointed, but it's not gonna make me think any less of 'Se7en' or 'Fight Club' etc... Coz I invest in the films and not so much the actors (if that makes sense laugh.gif)

In all fairness, Brad would have to do a lot more to be the sour link in a film with Kevin Spacey tongue.gif

Posted by: Rampage Apr 1 2018, 06:18 PM

Funny track.I always happy when he releases a new song

Posted by: All★bySmashMouth Apr 1 2018, 08:19 PM

Can a mod just edit that subtitle. Seeing the wrong Jenner name triggers me so much more than my Lil Dicky.

Posted by: Jack Apr 2 2018, 12:15 AM

QUOTE(Rampage @ Apr 1 2018, 07:18 PM) *
Funny track.I always happy when he releases a new song

Spoken like a true Chris Brown fan.

Posted by: cqmisa Apr 3 2018, 11:55 AM

This is 100% going to #1 this week mellow.gif

Posted by: Tombo Apr 3 2018, 12:19 PM

QUOTE(cqmisa @ Apr 3 2018, 12:55 PM) *
This is 100% going to #1 this week mellow.gif


Awesome news cheer.gif

Posted by: RobBob Apr 4 2018, 11:58 AM

SO, I’ve finally just heard this (without the video) and while I’m sure there’s questionable lyrics which don’t make much sense without a video apparently... this is such a bop? Confused by the comments that you wouldn’t wanna listen to this without the video, it’s a very standard DJ Mustard kinda bop, it gave me Body Language vibes at time.

A FAN and it amused me.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Apr 4 2018, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(RobBob @ Apr 4 2018, 12:58 PM) *
SO, I’ve finally just heard this (without the video) and while I’m sure there’s questionable lyrics which don’t make much sense without a video apparently... this is such a bop? Confused by the comments that you wouldn’t wanna listen to this without the video, it’s a very standard DJ Mustard kinda bop, it gave me Body Language vibes at time.

A FAN and it amused me.


Yeah, but was your first thought not "why is Chris Brown waking up in his own body?"

Posted by: Tombo Apr 4 2018, 12:05 PM

QUOTE(RobBob @ Apr 4 2018, 12:58 PM) *
SO, I’ve finally just heard this (without the video) and while I’m sure there’s questionable lyrics which don’t make much sense without a video apparently... this is such a bop? Confused by the comments that you wouldn’t wanna listen to this without the video, it’s a very standard DJ Mustard kinda bop, it gave me Body Language vibes at time.

A FAN and it amused me.


Exactly, I heard the song several times before seeing the video and I liked it and understood the concept and found it funny

Posted by: troylovesmusic Apr 4 2018, 12:23 PM

I’m loving Freak Friday as well tbh it’s a fun track and I would happy for it to go number 1 tbh.

Posted by: Cremey Apr 4 2018, 01:22 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Apr 4 2018, 01:02 PM) *
Yeah, but was your first thought not "why is Chris Brown waking up in his own body?"

When the song itself is called ‘Freaky Friday’ though it’s pretty obvious..

Yeah this is really fun, as is the video. This chorus has been stuck in my head for the past week.
It’s all a bit novelty but I’ve missed the DJ Mustard productions like this doing well.

Kendall Jenner makes it

Posted by: ML Hammer95 Apr 4 2018, 01:53 PM

I wish it was 'Loyal' that would have gone to #1 but this is an enjoyable track in its own right. However, it is definitely the video and novelty aspect of the song that has helped it blow up.

I think I'm at the point with Chris Brown where I can enjoy a couple of his songs but the thought of listening to a whole album from him does not appeal at all.

Posted by: _jase Apr 4 2018, 02:25 PM

QUOTE(ML Hammer95 @ Apr 4 2018, 02:53 PM) *
I wish it was 'Loyal' that would have gone to #1


Why on earth would you have wanted that?

Posted by: Jüpiter Apr 4 2018, 08:46 PM

Can't stand Chris Brown. Sorry but if you are playing the song you are supporting and validating that what they did in the past or who they are doesn't matter, because you're still giving them $ and exposure.

I feel the same about XXXTentacion.

Posted by: JosephAvery Apr 4 2018, 08:56 PM

QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Apr 4 2018, 09:46 PM) *
Can't stand Chris Brown. Sorry but if you are playing the song you are supporting and validating that what they did in the past or who they are doesn't matter, because you're still giving them $ and exposure.

I feel the same about XXXTentacion.

I don't think playing one song, about body-swapping with a guy called Lil Dicky, is anything remotely like supporting his actions of beating Rihanna up. I understand people being reluctant to go near Chris Brown's music after what happened, but to say that anyone who likes his music is validating his past actions is quite frankly ludicrous.

For the record: I think he's a repugnant human but, as I've said before, I find this song quite enjoyable. Doesn't mean I support his actions against Rihanna (cause I really, really don't)

Posted by: DropzoneUK Apr 5 2018, 12:52 AM

Saw this the other day and thought the video was okay, the song was terrible and the cheapness of throwing in loads of random cameos just for the sake of it was what decided its fate for me. TRASH

Posted by: Dexton Apr 5 2018, 01:41 AM

QUOTE(JosephAvery @ Apr 5 2018, 04:56 AM) *
I don't think playing one song, about body-swapping with a guy called Lil Dicky, is anything remotely like supporting his actions of beating Rihanna up. I understand people being reluctant to go near Chris Brown's music after what happened, but to say that anyone who likes his music is validating his past actions is quite frankly ludicrous.

For the record: I think he's a repugnant human but, as I've said before, I find this song quite enjoyable. Doesn't mean I support his actions against Rihanna (cause I really, really don't)


I think many people are taking this song and who is involved too serious and aren’t looking at it for what it is - a joke.

Posted by: Jüpiter Apr 5 2018, 02:23 AM

QUOTE(JosephAvery @ Apr 4 2018, 09:56 PM) *
I don't think playing one song, about body-swapping with a guy called Lil Dicky, is anything remotely like supporting his actions of beating Rihanna up. I understand people being reluctant to go near Chris Brown's music after what happened, but to say that anyone who likes his music is validating his past actions is quite frankly ludicrous.

For the record: I think he's a repugnant human but, as I've said before, I find this song quite enjoyable. Doesn't mean I support his actions against Rihanna (cause I really, really don't)


Supporting not in the sense of "I think its great!" but in the sense of supporting his career, like paying support.
Musicians' whole careers are built on the back of people playing and sharing their songs, and buying them too. The only reason people like Chris Brown still have a career is because people keep consuming their music and just looking the other way about what they did in their personal life.

Posted by: Tombo Apr 5 2018, 05:27 AM

QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Apr 4 2018, 09:46 PM) *
Can't stand Chris Brown. Sorry but if you are playing the song you are supporting and validating that what they did in the past or who they are doesn't matter, because you're still giving them $ and exposure.

I feel the same about XXXTentacion.


Cheryl assaulted a woman in a nightclub early in her career but I don't see people bringing that up every time she has a new song out

Posted by: Jack Apr 5 2018, 07:48 AM

QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Apr 5 2018, 03:23 AM) *
Supporting not in the sense of "I think its great!" but in the sense of supporting his career, like paying support.
Musicians' whole careers are built on the back of people playing and sharing their songs, and buying them too. The only reason people like Chris Brown still have a career is because people keep consuming their music and just looking the other way about what they did in their personal life.

Exactly - I know no one actually agrees with what he's done but we are actually supporting him if we legally stream/download the song by giving him money effectively. If you're doing it illegally, absolutely fine, you do you. I just think there are SO many other artists who haven't beaten women or homophobic past, can we not with Chris Brown? laugh.gif

I know people will think it's preachy or overly sensitive, but I really don't care. He doesn't deserve a single penny and should be in the same boat as someone like Iggy.

And regarding Cheryl, I don't think that's comparable really - she didn't nearly kill the woman as far as I'm aware and hasn't had any further incidents since then. I don't condone her actions either.

Posted by: Jonjo Apr 5 2018, 08:01 AM

QUOTE(Tombo @ Apr 5 2018, 06:27 AM) *
Cheryl assaulted a woman in a nightclub early in her career but I don't see people bringing that up every time she has a new song out
Actually, I seem to recall quite a few people (especially at the start of her solo career) mentioning it. Not to the extent, granted, but as Jack said (although obviously not condoning what she did at all) but she didn't nearly kill the woman.

But yeah, my problem isn't people actually liking the song (I'm sure if/when I do listen to the song, I'll probs enjoy it - especially if it's similar to DJ Mustard)... it just baffles me to see that he still has any sort of career in 2018 and seeing radio support him.

What's even worse is, I see his rabid fanbase either saying stuff like "she got what she deserved" or trying to come up with some poor, lame ass excuse for what he did. I just don't get why he gets a free pass, when others (rightfully) haven't.

Posted by: RobBob Apr 5 2018, 12:27 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Apr 4 2018, 01:02 PM) *
Yeah, but was your first thought not "why is Chris Brown waking up in his own body?"

Cremey has pretty much summed it up, besides, I don’t understand Korean but I enjoy plenty of K-Pop.

As for the argument about listening to Freaky Friday being some kind of offence, I’m just not with it. I wouldn’t ever buy a Chris Brown song, I’m not a fan and I wouldn’t say I support him because of how he is as a human but I don’t find it difficult to seperate thinking “I like this song” and whoever the artist is behind it. This thread has been a fair example of how you can pick and choose what factors as something that would stop you listening to someone’s music. For example, Jonjo, you literally just won BJSC with a song just recently produced by Dr Luke, and the artist behind it is his new project. I’m not saying this is an issue, I’m not gonna stop listening to Teenage Dream because he’s a vile excuse for a man.

I think there’s a difference between supporting an artist and listening/enjoying songs of theirs.

Posted by: Chez Wombat Apr 5 2018, 12:48 PM

I do think a line needs to be drawn between artist and the art work, if we didn't, then we wouldn't be able to enjoy some of the greatest works of art in history. A lot of the world's most famous film directors (Alfred Hitchcock, Roman Polanski etc.) had dodgy pasts many of which were shown recently, does enjoying and paying for their film condone that? I don't think so, it's simple appreciation of the art form. Granted it can sometimes be too heinous an act that redemption isn't possible (ie. Gary Glitter), but it takes a very extreme case for that to happen.

Chris Brown is a vile human being and I don't by any means condone his actions at all (I don't even like this song, I just find the concept and video amusing) and I definitely don't agree with how he hasn't suffered any repercussions for it in terms of his career, but I hate a lot of his music purely because it's rubbish not because of who's behind it, and I don't think those that do enjoy and pay for his music should be made to feel guilty for simply appreciating it as a single piece of work.

Posted by: Jack Apr 5 2018, 01:16 PM

Just for the record, I'm not saying people should feel bad if they like the song. I do too! I just don't think he deserves to be getting any payola at all and his career should be in the pits.

Posted by: Jüpiter Apr 5 2018, 05:56 PM

For the record as well, I'm just saying my own personal opinion. I'm not going to come after someone else for liking and listening to the song, I'm not God to control what other people choose to do. It's just a line I personally don't feel comfortable crossing. There's plenty other music out there that I'm not gonna miss out by avoiding the output of an artist I dislike due to their actions.

Although I do find it distasteful that the song chose Chris Brown and seems to be trying to sweep his past under the rug in a self-aware way. You couldn'tve chose any of the other big R&B stars to write a comedy song about? The cynic in me suspects they might be courting the controversy deliberately.

Posted by: Jonjo Apr 6 2018, 01:22 AM

QUOTE(RobBob @ Apr 5 2018, 01:27 PM) *
Cremey has pretty much summed it up, besides, I don’t understand Korean but I enjoy plenty of K-Pop.

As for the argument about listening to Freaky Friday being some kind of offence, I’m just not with it. I wouldn’t ever buy a Chris Brown song, I’m not a fan and I wouldn’t say I support him because of how he is as a human but I don’t find it difficult to seperate thinking “I like this song” and whoever the artist is behind it. This thread has been a fair example of how you can pick and choose what factors as something that would stop you listening to someone’s music. For example, Jonjo, you literally just won BJSC with a song just recently produced by Dr Luke, and the artist behind it is his new project. I’m not saying this is an issue, I’m not gonna stop listening to Teenage Dream because he’s a vile excuse for a man.

I think there’s a difference between supporting an artist and listening/enjoying songs of theirs.
BITCH STFU!!!!!!!!!!!




JK!!! tongue.gif I get what you mean and I agree with you. Sorry to anyone if I've made them feel bad for liking the song or whatever, that genuinely wasn't/isn't my intention (and I never agreed with the poster that says if you listen to it you're condoning it etc...) I am someone who likes to seperate the artist from the art a lot of the time (I was just saying I think it's harder to seperate music artists from their art, than it is for an actor in a film for example)

It's just frustrating that it's him getting a hit and it infuriates me that he seemingly has fans who defend his actions (not you guys, I know where you guys stand in regards to him, always have done) which is away from him as an artist (if that makes sense laugh.gif)

Also, I genuinely had no idea Dr Luke had any involvement with that song haha. ph34r.gif But again, I think it's more just down to me investing in the artists more than being bothered about who produced it/the creative process behind it in general. Haha.

Posted by: Iz Apr 6 2018, 02:57 PM

Well, this is a cool idea for a song, the Freaky Friday stuff is at least somewhat original. The video's fairly funny. It's not all that bad musically considering who's singing on it, one of my least favourite singers in music, all actions aside. Probably wouldn't come back to it without the video, it seems like something that would normally just get a brief period of recognition and die just like most comedy songs so it apparently going to be a hit is weird.

Other than that, pretty terrible. Could have been so many people other than Chris Brown to do this with and his involvement just makes some of the lyrics really uncomfortable.

QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Apr 5 2018, 06:56 PM) *
Although I do find it distasteful that the song chose Chris Brown and seems to be trying to sweep his past under the rug in a self-aware way. You couldn'tve chose any of the other big R&B stars to write a comedy song about? The cynic in me suspects they might be courting the controversy deliberately.


I completely agree, on all counts.

Posted by: Dircadirca Apr 6 2018, 06:03 PM

Honestly it's Lil Dicky that bothers me more than Chris Brown. Hated his infantile sense of humour since the first time I came across it years ago. But more bothersome is the fact that he's a white dude blowing up in a black art form, but rather than take that to heart and be weary of it (something I can at least respect Macklemore for), he openly mocks the genre, further perpetuating negative stereotypes in hip hop for white audiences. It's not quite blackface but it's pretty reprehensible what he's doing.

Posted by: Midge Apr 6 2018, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(Dexton @ Apr 5 2018, 02:41 AM) *
I think many people are taking this song and who is involved too serious and aren’t looking at it for what it is - a joke.

I was about to say this. Dexton knows it.

Posted by: Midge Apr 6 2018, 06:08 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 07:03 PM) *
Honestly it's Lil Dicky that bothers me more than Chris Brown. Hated his infantile sense of humour since the first time I came across it years ago. But more bothersome is the fact that he's a white dude blowing up in a black art form, but rather than take that to heart and be weary of it (something I can at least respect Macklemore for), he openly mocks the genre, further perpetuating negative stereotypes in hip hop for white audiences. It's not quite blackface but it's pretty reprehensible what he's doing.

But artists such as Chris Brown and Fetty Wap are collaborating with him, perhaps you're reading too much into it?

Posted by: Dircadirca Apr 6 2018, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(Midge @ Apr 7 2018, 02:08 AM) *
But artists such as Chris Brown and Fetty Wap are collaborating with him, perhaps you're reading too much into it?

That'd be like saying the US president isn't misogynistic because (many) women voted for him though.

Posted by: Midge Apr 6 2018, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 07:14 PM) *
That'd be like saying the US president isn't misogynistic because (many) women voted for him though.

I disagree. I think bringing race into everything really needs to stop as well.

Posted by: Evil Houdini Apr 6 2018, 06:20 PM

The meltdowns over this song are unreal to be honest. It's a song, some people like it and some people don't. Is it so much of a disaster that it's at number one? if you're not happy about it getting to number one then take a break from the charts.

Posted by: Dircadirca Apr 6 2018, 06:23 PM

QUOTE(Midge @ Apr 7 2018, 02:15 AM) *
I disagree. I think bringing race into everything really needs to stop as well.

That makes it sound like you're more offended by the notion of someone calling out racism than racism itself. I'm just always reminded of people like Lil Dicky whenever I see something hated on because it's not gentrified enough for mass audience consumption. I feel like people decide to hate things without really thinking why it is they do, and start using things like that to justify their stance.

Posted by: Midge Apr 6 2018, 06:31 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 07:23 PM) *
That makes it sound like you're more offended by the notion of someone calling out racism than racism itself. I'm just always reminded of people like Lil Dicky whenever I see something hated on because it's not gentrified enough for mass audience consumption. I feel like people decide to hate things without really thinking why it is they do, and start using things like that to justify their stance.

No; there’s calling out racism and there’s being over analytical about it, which I think too many people are these days. Maybe I struggle with it all because I myself see everyone equally while society on the whole doesn’t. But anyway this topic is about "Freaky Friday"

Posted by: JosephAvery Apr 6 2018, 06:37 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 07:03 PM) *
Honestly it's Lil Dicky that bothers me more than Chris Brown. Hated his infantile sense of humour since the first time I came across it years ago. But more bothersome is the fact that he's a white dude blowing up in a black art form, but rather than take that to heart and be weary of it (something I can at least respect Macklemore for), he openly mocks the genre, further perpetuating negative stereotypes in hip hop for white audiences. It's not quite blackface but it's pretty reprehensible what he's doing.

I don't see what race has to do with anything. Can't we celebrate different cultures merging, instead of separating into what's a "black art form" and a "white art form"? In fact, if you accused a black person of blowing up in a "white art form", I'm sure the use of that term would be called out as racism (and rightly so!). It's 2018, cultures merging is a brilliant thing and shows progression. Besides, how are we to know that black audiences aren't enjoying this just as much as white audiences? I mean, it's doing well on Spotify globally which is a good indicator for urban music these days.

Besides, the entire point of this is that it's meant to be funny. Of course there's a certain amount of mocking, but beyond all of that, it's actually quite a well-crafted comedy song (like it or not), much like Big Shaq last year (although that must be alright, because he's black).

Posted by: Midge Apr 6 2018, 06:39 PM

Joseph you’ve nailed what I was meaning.

Posted by: Dircadirca Apr 6 2018, 06:39 PM

QUOTE(Midge @ Apr 7 2018, 02:31 AM) *
No; there’s calling out racism and there’s being over analytical about it, which I think too many people are these days. Maybe I struggle with it all because I myself see everyone equally while society on the whole doesn’t. But anyway this topic is about "Freaky Friday"

Well you're right. I worded it poorly but I wasn't trying to say that Dicky was by himself racist, I just think that he helps perpetuate a very troubling outlook on the genre where some of the most insightful wordsmiths of our generation are treated as jokes for the gall of having anything shiny or expensive in their music videos (or not just being a dude with a guitar). People go to https://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/article/6adwnp/why-does-everyone-hate-kanye-west to justify their disliking of rap music.

Posted by: Bré Apr 6 2018, 06:47 PM

I see what you're saying Dircadirca but at the end of the day, Lil Dicky is clearly not meant to be taken seriously, anyone whose opinion of hip-hop as a whole is negatively affected by his music is the kind of person who would probably have those prejudices anyway as they're clearly too stupid to realise the guy is a comedian. Unless he starts making music that openly promotes white supremacy or something he's entirely harmless imo, at worst he's just an unfunny guy who you can easily ignore.

Posted by: Dircadirca Apr 6 2018, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(JosephAvery @ Apr 7 2018, 02:37 AM) *
I don't see what race has to do with anything. Can't we celebrate different cultures merging, instead of separating into what's a "black art form" and a "white art form"? In fact, if you accused a black person of blowing up in a "white art form", I'm sure the use of that term would be called out as racism (and rightly so!). It's 2018, cultures merging is a brilliant thing and shows progression. Besides, how are we to know that black audiences aren't enjoying this just as much as white audiences? I mean, it's doing well on Spotify globally which is a good indicator for urban music these days.

Besides, the entire point of this is that it's meant to be funny. Of course there's a certain amount of mocking, but beyond all of that, it's actually quite a well-crafted comedy song (like it or not), much like Big Shaq last year (although that must be alright, because he's black).

The problem is that it's cultural appropriation and it prevents proper progression because it clouds out diversity in voices. I wouldn't call out the opposite example because the whole point of racism is when a culturally dominant demographic is pushing further down on a more minor one. It's really easy to ignore this sort of thing because I'm in an extremely fortunate position of privilege myself, but it creates really ugly situations where people start to cause negative associations with races that aren't their own and only consume and substantiate the already empowered demographics.

I'm not going to hate on or judge anyone for liking the song, but I think it's important to acknowledge these things otherwise it spirals out of control. I'll try not to talk any more on the subject though because it gives me a headache and I'm sure no one wants me to keep going.

Posted by: JosephAvery Apr 6 2018, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 07:51 PM) *
The problem is that it's cultural appropriation and it prevents proper progression because it clouds out diversity in voices. I wouldn't call out the opposite example because the whole point of racism is when a culturally dominant demographic is pushing further down on a more minor one. It's really easy to ignore this sort of thing because I'm in an extremely fortunate position of privilege myself, but it creates really ugly situations where people start to cause negative associations with races that aren't their own and only consume and substantiate the already empowered demographics.

I'm not going to hate on or judge anyone for liking the song, but I think it's important to acknowledge these things otherwise it spirals out of control. I'll try not to talk any more on the subject though because it gives me a headache and I'm sure no one wants me to keep going.

This is why I often have a problem with the term "cultural appropriation", it's seemingly used against white people when cultures mix quite innocently and it's made out to be a much bigger deal than it should be. To me, racism refers to a negative judgement on anybody regarding their race, and their status in society doesn't really come into it, but it's interesting to see different points of view. I understand your point totally but ultimately I think people will be well aware that Freaky Friday is intended in a humorous and light-hearted manner with no offence intended, I don't think it would lead to any negative opinions regarding race (none that don't already unfortunately exist, that is).

Posted by: _jase Apr 6 2018, 07:05 PM

NOT a Lil Dicky song bringing up issues of race, violence, and cultural appropriation!

Posted by: Tombo Apr 7 2018, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(JosephAvery @ Apr 6 2018, 07:37 PM) *
I don't see what race has to do with anything. Can't we celebrate different cultures merging, instead of separating into what's a "black art form" and a "white art form"? In fact, if you accused a black person of blowing up in a "white art form", I'm sure the use of that term would be called out as racism (and rightly so!). It's 2018, cultures merging is a brilliant thing and shows progression. Besides, how are we to know that black audiences aren't enjoying this just as much as white audiences? I mean, it's doing well on Spotify globally which is a good indicator for urban music these days.

Besides, the entire point of this is that it's meant to be funny. Of course there's a certain amount of mocking, but beyond all of that, it's actually quite a well-crafted comedy song (like it or not), much like Big Shaq last year (although that must be alright, because he's black).


Agreed so much! Claims of cultural appropriation are usually jokes, it is just multiculturalism in action, we have moved passed segregation

Posted by: Berrier Cody Apr 11 2018, 05:42 AM

Jesus, I come here to write about Kendall Jenner's line (which is the only thing that's stuck in my head, help) and all I see is one SJW circlejerk.

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 11:51 AM) *
The problem is that it's cultural appropriation and it prevents proper progression because it clouds out diversity in voices. I wouldn't call out the opposite example because the whole point of racism is when a culturally dominant demographic is pushing further down on a more minor one.
The thing is, racism isn't defined to criminalize the majority race, whatever it may be. It's to condemn the action of bringing someone down because of their color.
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rac·ism
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noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Apr 6 2018, 11:51 AM) *
It's really easy to ignore this sort of thing because I'm in an extremely fortunate position of privilege myself, but it creates really ugly situations where people start to cause negative associations with races that aren't their own and only consume and substantiate the already empowered demographics.
Didn't you just say Lil Dicky can't do gangster rap because he's white (even if it is a self-aware novelty thing)? Because apparently the only thing white people are allowed to sing about are tractors and whiskey.

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Cultural appropriation is just too much of a shaky subject to even associate Freaky Friday with. Most accounts of it are cases where it's intended to harm another race whereas with this song everyone who was name dropped is pretty much in on the joke. If we had this mentality that trying to encapsulate something that another culture developed is appropriation for everything, then we should stop appreciating K-pop and Bollywood. They CLEARLY borrow from Western culture, shouldn't that be cultural appropriation?

Look, I don't really care about the dude or this song, and I get what you're on about, but cultural appropriation is a bridge too far.

This is coming from a minority.

Posted by: Botchia Apr 18 2018, 09:15 PM

Am I the only one still obsessed with this?! It's such a banger

Posted by: Liаm Apr 18 2018, 09:38 PM

Omg yes it's such a tune idc *.*

Posted by: TomboOnBroadway Apr 18 2018, 09:43 PM

QUOTE(Botchia @ Apr 18 2018, 10:15 PM) *
Am I the only one still obsessed with this?! It's such a banger


I still love it yahoo.gif

Posted by: Dobbo Apr 18 2018, 10:04 PM

Can't stop listening to this myself.

Posted by: TomboOnBroadway May 20 2018, 05:55 PM

This is holding up so well, still #4 on the chart, it is a proper hit cheer.gif

Posted by: mdh May 20 2018, 08:14 PM

sick2.gif tho

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