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post 15th March 2018, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 14 2018, 12:24 AM) *
My mum basically said it was a load of noise because of the chicken noises laugh.gif


I thought my mum's response would be exactly the same but she was like 'this is actually really clever' laugh.gif
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post 15th March 2018, 11:54 AM
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post 15th March 2018, 06:11 PM
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I like the first verse but the chicken noises and chorus are dumb

Also the chorus is sexist, there would be outrage if a male was singing "you stupid girl"
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post 15th March 2018, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 15 2018, 06:11 PM) *
I like the first verse but the chicken noises and chorus are dumb

Also the chorus is sexist, there would be outrage if a male was singing "you stupid girl"


Let’s wait for a time when men are suppressed and sexual assaulted by women, then we’ll talk.
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post 15th March 2018, 09:28 PM
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erm except she's not saying all men are stupid
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post 15th March 2018, 09:36 PM
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I heard this is the favourite.

I don't like it.
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post 15th March 2018, 09:43 PM
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*insert Adele's ode to Pink translated into Hebrew here*

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post 15th March 2018, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(Shia LeMuffQueef @ Mar 15 2018, 09:36 PM) *
I heard this is the favourite.

I don't like it.
You don't like it coz it's popular/the favourite?

Surprise.
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post 15th March 2018, 11:34 PM
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!!!!

Also what a silly notion that this is sexist laugh.gif It's an empowering feminist track borne in a time where there's a lot of sexual abuse etc. going around and it's saying if you think you've got a right to whatever you want over my body you're an idiot. And anyone who behaves is an idiot, to be kind about it laugh.gif It's not like she's saying all men need to die painfully lmao.

It's such a cleverly done song imo, from the vocal ticks (the chicken noises, she does like vocal looping stuff so it makes sense to her style and is adding to her calling the boys a coward, it also comes from the Japanese word for idiot baka as I posted earlier) to the production and the lyrics. People who thinks it's stupid clearly want a boring Eurovision full of female plodding ballads and cheesy pop that sounds like it's from 1998, rather than unique huge pop songs that stand out.
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post 16th March 2018, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 15 2018, 04:34 PM) *
!!!!

Also what a silly notion that this is sexist laugh.gif It's an empowering feminist track borne in a time where there's a lot of sexual abuse etc. going around and it's saying if you think you've got a right to whatever you want over my body you're an idiot. And anyone who behaves is an idiot, to be kind about it laugh.gif It's not like she's saying all men need to die painfully lmao.

It's such a cleverly done song imo, from the vocal ticks (the chicken noises, she does like vocal looping stuff so it makes sense to her style and is adding to her calling the boys a coward, it also comes from the Japanese word for idiot baka as I posted earlier) to the production and the lyrics. People who thinks it's stupid clearly want a boring Eurovision full of female plodding ballads and cheesy pop that sounds like it's from 1998, rather than unique huge pop songs that stand out.
I was actually thinking about the vocal loops and how they seemed so organic rather than digitally constructed. For example the first couple lines of the second verse are actually comprehensible lyrics but they sounds like scatting and it’s the same way with the bridge. The way she plays around with the b sound of the word “boy” and then chops it up to create that clucking sound, and it made something that was homophonic with the word “baka”.

So for me it’s not just spreading the message, but it’s that Kiiara-esque production technique that got me.
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post 18th March 2018, 08:44 PM
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Only thanks to the wonder that is Eurovision could a song containing chicken sounds made by a vocal looper artist in Israel reach a Uganda street dance crew who perform an AMAZING dance routine to it:

https://www.escxtra.com/2018/03/18/uganda-spoon-youth-toy/

Eurovision is so wonderful heart.gif
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post 19th March 2018, 09:19 PM
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This has been growing on me, now that I've heard it is a few times I still don't like the 'stupid boy' line though
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post 19th March 2018, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 19 2018, 09:19 PM) *
This has been growing on me, now that I've heard it is a few times I still don't like the 'stupid boy' line though
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post 19th March 2018, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(Tombo @ Mar 20 2018, 12:19 AM) *
This has been growing on me, now that I've heard it is a few times I still don't like the 'stupid boy' line though


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post 19th March 2018, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(ionderella @ Mar 19 2018, 11:48 PM) *


I find it sexist tbh
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post 20th March 2018, 09:59 AM
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What’s she supposed to say? "Stupid human"? But then it’d be discriminatory against humans I guess.
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post 20th March 2018, 01:01 PM
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post 20th March 2018, 01:01 PM
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*f***ing double posts*

yeah god forbid someone call Weinstein & Co. 'stupid', it's just as bad as rape


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post 20th March 2018, 01:10 PM
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That is honestly the most ridiculous thing to say laugh.gif The sexist thing is rape and sexual assaults, treating women like a "toy". But ok go off, being against that is the thing that's sexist.....

That's like saying it's racist to write a song about ISIS being bad, it's not it's against the perpetrators. It's not a song like "I f***ing hate men let them all burn slowly and painfully" drama.gif
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post 20th March 2018, 01:30 PM
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Calling this song ‘sexist’ because it has the lyrics ‘you stupid boy’ (note the singular ‘you’ and ‘boy’ i.e. she’s talking about one person) has got to be one of the most reaching and imbecilic things I think I’ve ever seen on BuzzJack.

YOU, stupid boy Tombo!
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