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> Sia - The Greatest, ft. Kendrick Lamar
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post 12th September 2016, 08:29 PM
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I love this. It's kinda Sia by numbers but I still love it none the less.
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post 13th September 2016, 12:24 AM
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she's beginning to make that transition into 'icon' and its fabulous
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post 17th September 2016, 05:44 PM
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The fact that Sia's name power has become such that this is already a Top 5 hit is so well deserved in terms of her overall career, but the song itself is almost comically formulaic that it only makes me think how outstanding she'd be if she pushed herself a bit more. I do like the track because it's got her magic touches all over it, however they mask and distract from the bland, lazy lyrics and tired empowerment clichés throughout (which'd be apparent if anyone else was at the vocal helm). Lyrically and structurally, it sounds like it was put together in minutes when she was out of ideas and barely even trying, and the whole thing definitely feels throwaway and insubstantial when compared to her best efforts. In saying all that, I've been playing it loads recently (and Kendrick's contribution certainly helps), so I guess her immense musical talent should be commended for enabling her make something so half-arsed yet effective! I'm also glad that it was 'Cheap Thrills' of all songs that paved the way for this to smash instantly, but yeah, it's nothing special and ultimately I expect more from her~
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post 18th September 2016, 11:31 AM
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This song is The Greatest like it's name. Sia is the best!!

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post 18th September 2016, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(Jake @ Sep 13 2016, 01:24 AM) *
she's beginning to make that transition into 'icon' and its fabulous



She really has! Her name alone sells music in a way that people like Gaga don't seem to have the ability to anymore. I know she's seen as new on the scene for the general public and bringing up the age thing is a bit tired, but it IS great to see for a 40 year old.

I love the song though. More than anything on TIA. adore the production.
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post 18th September 2016, 04:48 PM
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didn't realise she was 40! 😱
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post 18th September 2016, 04:56 PM
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I think I've watched the video over 20 times. One of my favourite videos in a long while and definitely Sia's best since Soon We'll Be Found. The choreography, the setting, the dancers, the emotion, it's perfect.
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post 21st September 2016, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE(Noahspike @ Sep 17 2016, 06:44 PM) *
The fact that Sia's name power has become such that this is already a Top 5 hit is so well deserved in terms of her overall career, but the song itself is almost comically formulaic that it only makes me think how outstanding she'd be if she pushed herself a bit more. I do like the track because it's got her magic touches all over it, however they mask and distract from the bland, lazy lyrics and tired empowerment clichés throughout (which'd be apparent if anyone else was at the vocal helm). Lyrically and structurally, it sounds like it was put together in minutes when she was out of ideas and barely even trying, and the whole thing definitely feels throwaway and insubstantial when compared to her best efforts. In saying all that, I've been playing it loads recently (and Kendrick's contribution certainly helps), so I guess her immense musical talent should be commended for enabling her make something so half-arsed yet effective! I'm also glad that it was 'Cheap Thrills' of all songs that paved the way for this to smash instantly, but yeah, it's nothing special and ultimately I expect more from her~

i'm so disappointed by this opinion ...

i literally cannot begin to put into words how exceptional i think sia is as a popstar, songwriter, pop context and human

for a woman to turn 40 and actively choose to become one of the world's biggest pop stars, actively making a point of not showing your face; she is beyond remarkable; the anti popstar POPSTAR...her love for the absurd...literally putting a record out based around the songs the biggest pop stars turned down and you released and had massive hits with

her max martin-esque ability to write songs / perform / JUST BE...here is a woman who had clearly sufferers with depression, insecurity and addiction. to be relatable and a popstar is almost a contridiction but i can say hand on heart i can't think who she even vaguely reminds me of, one of a kind and then A BIT

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post 21st September 2016, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(Jake @ Sep 21 2016, 03:34 AM) *
i'm so disappointed by this opinion ...

i literally cannot begin to put into words how exceptional i think sia is as a popstar, songwriter, pop context and human

for a woman to turn 40 and actively choose to become one of the world's biggest pop stars, actively making a point of not showing your face; she is beyond remarkable; the anti popstar POPSTAR...her love for the absurd...literally putting a record out based around the songs the biggest pop stars turned down and you released and had massive hits with

her max martin-esque ability to write songs / perform / JUST BE...here is a woman who had clearly sufferers with depression, insecurity and addiction. to be relatable and a popstar is almost a contridiction but i can say hand on heart i can't think who she even vaguely reminds me of, one of a kind and then A BIT

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I completely agree with all of that! My post was a criticism only as far as this song, and my standards for her are as high as they are because of how all-round incredible she is as a pop entity (though I'm not sure your full post was a direct response to mine).

It's a personal preference but I can't get very invested in a song that's so reliant on repetition of the most obvious empowerment tropes; from climbing mountains to not giving up to being 'alive' (and then roping in 'tonight' to rhyme for good measure)! The sentiment and emotion are both there, as ever with Sia, but there's not much beyond that. The lyrics lack substance to me and I know she's more than capable of better.

As I said though, I'm delighted she's now at a stage this far into her career that people en masse take listen and respond as soon as she puts something out as it's so justified for all of the reasons you've mentioned.
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post 21st September 2016, 09:31 AM
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Exceptional woman / mega relatable icon or not, this song is terrible. Almost a parody in how closely it follows the Cheap Thrills formula.
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post 21st September 2016, 09:46 AM
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Still love this. Sia strikes again.
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post 21st September 2016, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(jark @ Sep 21 2016, 10:31 AM) *
Exceptional woman / mega relatable icon or not, this song is terrible. Almost a parody in how closely it follows the Cheap Thrills formula.

do you have any idea where i might br able to buy able to buy a life size cut out of an exceptional pop star, preferably sia, it doesn't have to be iconic, preferably mega though thanks
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post 23rd September 2016, 12:14 PM
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This has now become my favourite song of the year for me she's only female singer this year who's album has been solid and I want to listen again and again biggrin.gif
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post 23rd September 2016, 04:37 PM
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Listened The Greatest first time today. Not bad but Cheap Thrills was absolutely blast so I keep listening it.
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post 3rd November 2016, 04:24 PM
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Disc 1, Track 7. yahoo.gif

But sadly missing the vocal from Kendrick Lamar. cry.gif
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post 23rd December 2016, 07:49 AM
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i rly RLY ended up not liking this song but this remix from KDA is resparking my interest!!!

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post 23rd December 2016, 01:50 PM
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Sounds too much like that shit new song he did with Brooke Candy & Sia.
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post 23rd December 2016, 03:17 PM
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The remix is awful and ruins the song completely.
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post 23rd December 2016, 03:55 PM
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