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Posted by: lewistgreen 16th June 2018, 03:04 PM

The http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=207855 reached 50 pages so here's a new one before we head into a new week and the World Cup disruption!



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Schedule
Monday - 8pm
Tuesday - 7:30pm
Thursday - 7:30pm
Friday - 8pm

Upcoming Cast Changes
Donna Yates - Departing
Ollie Walters - Returning (Guest)
Kandice Taylor - Returning (Guest)

Posted by: lewistgreen 16th June 2018, 03:08 PM

Upcoming Schedule Changes
18/06 - 9:25pm (65 mins)
21/06 - 9:10pm
22/06 - 9:10pm

25/06 - 9:10pm (1 hour)

Posted by: Jαsє 16th June 2018, 11:02 PM

This bald guy who is Mick's friend is f***ing repugnant. He actually makes the show unwatchable

Posted by: Jαsє 16th June 2018, 11:05 PM

And WHAT is Yorke's obsession with money? First it was the old man demanding "WHERE'S MAH MONEY?!", now it's "WHO STOLE THE MONEY?!" f***s sake NOBODY cares

It's awful what this show now is. Just awful :/

Posted by: Jαsє 16th June 2018, 11:12 PM

Masood's return has been one of the most pointless returns ever. I mean, what has been the point? :/

Posted by: pippa 18th June 2018, 01:32 PM

Masood is nothing short of annoying and the return is pointless and no benefit to the show.

I like what we are seeing with Kim. I have always enjoyed Kim but her most recent scenes have really shown what a strong actress she is.
Her emotions and performance are heartfelt and real and she is portraying all the sides of emotion which i find very realistic to watch.

Posted by: gavindeejay 18th June 2018, 10:07 PM

They’re really touching some heavy stuff with Stuart tonight! Good to see EE covering some topics other soaps wouldn’t.

Posted by: Botchia 💡 18th June 2018, 10:10 PM

Stuart is a very interesting character - incredibly Jekyll & Hyde!!

Posted by: T Boy 19th June 2018, 06:15 PM

Good Lord, this Mick tedium needs to end. Is there a reason we need to see Danny Dyer attempt guilty expressions and make everyone’s problems about him?

Posted by: Botchia 💡 20th June 2018, 10:28 PM

EastEnders will be broadcasting a docu-drama style episode for Shaki's funeral. The show will be interspersed with real stories of knife crime.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44547797

I like the sentiment but I'm not sure how this will play out on screen!

Posted by: Liаm 20th June 2018, 10:47 PM

I don't dislike Stuart but Mick honestly drains the life out of any storyline he's forced into Like they've introduced these new characters in Halfway and Stuart who have stuff to explore and Mick ALWAYS has to be involved, it's just so boring to watch. Like T Boy said it's just him making the same faces and making it about him no matter how bad it is for the other person. Also him treating Halfway better than he did his own solider son while he was at home

Posted by: liamk97 20th June 2018, 11:45 PM

I too am curious as to how this will work on screen, like it's a great sentiment as you say, I just don't want it to see jarring as we flip between reality and fiction. I feel like monologues over Eastenders scenes would work well. Regardless though, I was thinking just the other day how ahead of the standard soap format Emmerdale and Hollyoaks are and Eastenders is usually the one that sticks largely to the traditional format, so it's pleasing to know Eastenders are considering new ways to portray their stories.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 21st June 2018, 11:23 AM

THIS!!

Also agreed about the whole obsession with money and Sharom's club doing so well that it just happened to have 14k in the tills!!

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 21st June 2018, 11:24 AM

Maybe it will be monologues from real families who come to the funeral, or they will watch a presentation on it and there will be a video they watch with real stories

Posted by: liamk97 21st June 2018, 12:04 PM

I don't know why these are so funny but I'm howling:

https://twitter.com/JakeMC_/status/1007693662720020481

https://twitter.com/JakeMC_/status/1007022059568984064

https://twitter.com/JakeMC_/status/1006608640520966147

Posted by: gavindeejay 21st June 2018, 12:18 PM

I would like to know why the producers have been so obsessed with 'stolen money' storylines over the past 6 months. First we had the gangs money going missing, then missing money at the club and now Ted finally realised he's had money stolen.y. The only real difference with the latter is that we know who stole Ted's money.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 21st June 2018, 03:38 PM

Does anyone else just fast forward the lot of it except for the Slater bits?

Posted by: T Boy 21st June 2018, 04:40 PM

It’s like EE are trying to force Mick into legendary status. This is a problem because he’s shit.

Posted by: Jαsє 22nd June 2018, 12:32 PM

It's just background noise to me now. I'll put it on via catch-up but I'll be browsing the internet while it's on and the only time I really pay any attention is if anything interesting/of note happens - so very rarely!

Posted by: pippa 22nd June 2018, 02:48 PM

The Slaters are always interesting to watch and i do enjoy Kim too.
Outside of the scenes with these characters i tend to forward through bits unless its on in the background and it plays out.
The episodes are by large non events for far too long now.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 22nd June 2018, 03:37 PM

Max should have died.

It's just more sexist garbage from a soap which pays its male stars a LOT more then the female ones.

For me he died on the roof. I will never watch his scenes.

'Anti-freeze? Who steals anti-freeze in June?'

'Uhh yeah see ya!'

Posted by: lewistgreen 22nd June 2018, 03:47 PM

^ Just because it’s a new thread doesn’t mean you can roll out this argument again

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 22nd June 2018, 03:55 PM

Lacey Turner: 170k
Ian Beale and Mick: 250k

And that's just for starters

Posted by: T Boy 22nd June 2018, 04:45 PM

Is that a broken record or is Michael posting again?

The salary issue is no different then most industries and has been a very recent topic of discussion with demands for change. It’s not like Dean Gaffney is on more than Letitia Dean because of his penis. Certain female characters also get special treatment from the writers. Stacey, for example, does lots of awful things but always gets her way in the end.

And I really don’t think anyone here can take your sexism arguments seriously when the only other thing you ever do in this thread is comment on how fat Sharon is.

Posted by: lewistgreen 22nd June 2018, 08:51 PM

Summer trailer is out

Posted by: Botchia 💡 22nd June 2018, 09:09 PM

I forgot Tina exists

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 22nd June 2018, 09:40 PM

Male characters have women suddenly change their whole personalities, forget their mother instincts, hard-wired in nature, forget they just admitted to murdering the women's boyfriends, and suddenly and for no reason have the women climb onto a roof AND THEN OVER a barrier for no reason and then die instead of the male. Meanwhile, even males like MINTY get all the cash.

And all I said is she is unhealthily large.

Posted by: Jαsє 22nd June 2018, 10:34 PM

So the whole summer is basically focusing on Stuart and the boring shite they're giving the Slaters? Oh joy

Posted by: Jαsє 22nd June 2018, 10:43 PM

Watching Mick get angry over pedos is such riveting tv...

EDIT: ANOTHER Mick duff duff

wtf is John Yorke doing?

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 22nd June 2018, 11:13 PM

What is this gross Stuart stuff and why is Mick ALWAYS ON AND ALWAYS GETTING THE DUFF DUFFS?! DOESN'T HE KNOW IT'S AN ENSEMBLE CAST? I'd prefer another pasta duff duff at this rate

Posted by: T Boy 23rd June 2018, 09:49 AM

This is just white noise to me now.

Love how Linda’s like ‘don’t let him in the pub. Right, I’m going to me mums, I doubt you’ll have him round when I’m gone for a few days’.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th June 2018, 08:13 PM

I'm not enjoying the stuart stuff at all.

Posted by: Jαsє 24th June 2018, 10:30 PM

It's awful isn't it?

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/love-island/news/a860186/eastenders-dean-gaffney-doesnt-want-daughters-love-island/

Dean's next run-in with Danny Dyer is surely gonna be a tad awkward?

Posted by: T Boy 29th June 2018, 04:59 PM

http://imgur.com/UZWuIqV

Posted by: Liаm 29th June 2018, 05:21 PM

!!!!!

I haven't watched this in a good couple of weeks oops, World Cup pushing it to past 9 most nights means we just have Love Island on instead and when it's all Stuart and Mick as it was when I drifted off I just can't be bothered seeking it out later to watch :/

Posted by: lewistgreen 30th June 2018, 08:55 AM

Christ, Stuart must hold the record for most duff duffs ever now

I can’t help but roll my eyes at their storyline though, it just doesn’t seem to be impacting the way it should.

Posted by: Mack. 30th June 2018, 10:43 AM

EastEnders got its lowest ever overnight for its 9pm edition last night...

2.97m (16.7%).

Posted by: Andrew. 30th June 2018, 01:10 PM

It only just beat Love Island which was 2.89 :’)

Posted by: Slick 30th June 2018, 01:18 PM

I don't really understand why I'm still watching Eastenders. It's been nearly unwatchable for so long and John Yorke really isn't doing it for me so far (and I had such high hopes.) I care about characters like Kat, Stacey and Mel and at this point, I think that's the only thing keeping me tuning in.

Posted by: Liаm 30th June 2018, 01:25 PM

Christ, terrible ratings and they can't even blame say the football and people still being at the pub for it. Idk how they manage to have just the one odd good thing (Kat's return episodes, Shakil's stabbing) and then the meter runs out and they have nothing to give for weeks/months at a time... Looking at the summer trailer we've got a way to go.

Posted by: gavindeejay 30th June 2018, 01:31 PM

Looks like Yorke will be in the bbc controllers office on Monday morning then! I hope things improve, I know it’s abit difficult at the moment with the football disrupting the schedule and the hot weather but this is bad!

Posted by: JosephAvery 30th June 2018, 02:59 PM

There's definitely a load of factors at play - a later slot, a Love Island clash and good weather - but even considering all of that, it's a terrible rating really but I can't say it's undeserved. Alarm bells should be ringing at the BBC right now. All they need to do is take a good look at Emmerdale and Corrie for some inspiration...

Posted by: T Boy 30th June 2018, 03:33 PM

I’m really not surprised ratings were that shit for the second episode. I imagine most people were put off by the first one which felt incredibly weak.

I’m annoyed Jean and Ollie have had to split. Would it have been that difficult to keep Ollie as a regular? Oh well, Jean works single, I guess.

The Stuart storyline is horrendous and mainly because of Mick. Why on Earth would he act so judgy over what Stuart did and then go on to give him an alibi? Can Mick just be killed off ASAP?

Posted by: Mack. 30th June 2018, 10:10 PM

Managed to find this for anyone interested:

Current: 29th June 2018

1.297 Duff Duffs - Phil Mitchell
2.198 Duff Duffs - Ian Beale
3.189 Duff Duffs - Sharon Mitchell
4.145 Duff Duffs - Max Branning
5.125 Duff Duffs - Kat Moon
6.125 Duff Duffs - Grant Mitchell
7.124 Duff Duffs - Michelle Fowler
8.118 Duff Duffs - Pat Evans
9.116 Duff Duffs - Kathy Beale
10.116 Duff Duffs - Pauline Fowler

11.116 Duff Duffs - Stacey Fowler
12.114 Duff Duffs - Dot Branning
13.107 Duff Duffs - Alfie Moon
14.100 Duff Duffs - Ronnie Mitchell
15.100 Duff Duffs - Peggy Mitchell
16.98 Duff Duffs - Mark Fowler
17.91 Duff Duffs - Den Watts
18.89 Duff Duffs - Bianca Butcher
19.83 Duff Duffs - Janine Butcher
20.80 Duff Duffs - Billy Mitchell

21.76 Duff Duffs - Sonia Fowler
22.75 Duff Duffs - Arthur Fowler
23.71 Duff Duffs - Mick Carter
24.68 Duff Duffs - David Wicks
25.68 Duff Duffs - Frank Butcher
26.67 Duff Duffs - Carol Jackson
27.60 Duff Duffs - Martin Fowler
28.58 Duff Duffs - Tanya Cross
29.56 Duff Duffs - Ricky Butcher

30.55 Duff Duffs - Shirley Carter
31.54 Duff Duffs - Cindy Beale
32.53 Duff Duffs - Ben Mitchell
33.52 Duff Duffs - Pete Beale
34.51 Duff Duffs - Denise Fox
35.50 Duff Duffs - Little Mo Mitchell
36.50 Duff Duffs - Whitney Carter
37.50 Duff Duffs - Melanie Owen
38.50 Duff Duffs - Jack Branning
39.47 Duff Duffs - Lauren Branning

40.46 Duff Duffs - Roxy Mitchell
41.45 Duff Duffs - Jane Beale
42.45 Duff Duffs - Linda Carter
43.42 Duff Duffs - Lisa Fowler
44.39 Duff Duffs - Angie Watts
45.39 Duff Duffs - Steve Owen
46.38 Duff Duffs - Dennis Rickman
47.38 Duff Duffs - Zoe Slater
48.37 Duff Duffs - Michael Moon
49.37 Duff Duffs - Simon Wicks
50.37 Duff Duffs - Steven Beale

51.36 Duff Duffs - Bradley Branning
52.35 Duff Duffs - Nick Cotton
53.34 Duff Duffs - Sam Mitchell
54.31 Duff Duffs - Zainab Khan
55.31 Duff Duffs - Masood Ahmed
56.30 Duff Duffs - Sean Slater
57.29 Duff Duffs - Syed Masood
58.29 Duff Duffs - Tiffany Mitchell
59.29 Duff Duffs - Roy Evans
60.28 Duff Duffs - Chrissie Watts

61.27 Duff Duffs - Nigel Bates
62.25 Duff Duffs - Lucas Johnson
63.24 Duff Duffs - Matthew Rose
64.24 Duff Duffs - Barry Evans
65.24 Duff Duffs - Garry Hobbs
66.23 Duff Duffs - Johnny Allen
67.23 Duff Duffs - Natalie Evans
68.22 Duff Duffs - Sue Osman
69.22 Duff Duffs - Jim Branning
70.22 Duff Duffs - Patrick Trueman

71.21 Duff Duffs - Jamie Mitchell
72.20 Duff Duffs - Archie Mitchell
73.20 Duff Duffs - Mandy Salter
74.20 Duff Duffs - Kevin Wicks
75.20 Duff Duffs - Lucy Beale
76.20 Duff Duffs - Jay Brown
77.19 Duff Duffs - Laura Beale
78.19 Duff Duffs - Jean Walters
79.19 Duff Duffs - Minty Peterson
80.19 Duff Duffs - Gita Kapoor

81.18 Duff Duffs - May Wright
82.18 Duff Duffs - Lofty Holloway
83.18 Duff Duffs - Anthony Trueman
84.18 Duff Duffs - Lola Pearce
85.18 Duff Duffs - Dean Wicks
86.18 Duff Duffs - Christian Clarke
87.18 Duff Duffs - Beppe di Marco
88.18 Duff Duffs - Abi Branning
89.17 Duff Duffs - Paul Trueman
90.17 Duff Duffs - Terry Raymond

91.17 Duff Duffs - Honey Mitchell
92.17 Duff Duffs - Vincent Hubbard
93.16 Duff Duffs - Sarah Hills
94.16 Duff Duffs - Tony Hills
95.16 Duff Duffs - Heather Trott
96.16 Duff Duffs - Peter Beale
97.16 Duff Duffs - Charlie Slater
98.16 Duff Duffs - Pam Coker

99.15 Duff Duffs - Steve Elliot
100.15 Duff Duffs - Lee Carter
101.15 Duff Duffs - Dawn Swann
102.15 Duff Duffs - Sanjay Kapoor
103.15 Duff Duffs - Vicki Fowler

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 30th June 2018, 10:20 PM

4.145 Duff Duffs - Max Branning

Whyyy the producers have such a hard on for him I do not know!!

He looks like a baked bean - stop fanycing him and kill him off already,aa

Posted by: Klaus 30th June 2018, 10:36 PM

omg I read Little Mo as Big Mo and I was wondering how Big Mo was a part of so many big storylines to warrant a duff duff

Posted by: lewistgreen 30th June 2018, 11:16 PM

DigitalSpy are now reporting that Mel’s ex Ray will be appearing later this summer

Posted by: Jαsє 30th June 2018, 11:19 PM

Thoroughly deserved. Here's hoping ratings continue to plummet - who knows, it might finally give them the kick up the arse they need.

Posted by: T Boy 1st July 2018, 06:38 AM

Mick being 23 after being 100 just 3 years ago is worrying.

Anyone know the placing for Denise’s pasta?

Posted by: T Boy 1st July 2018, 01:09 PM

Just seen the best response to this and I think I’m dying.

Posted by: Liаm 1st July 2018, 01:22 PM

Whoever leaked her nudes did

Posted by: Jαsє 2nd July 2018, 05:52 PM

After catching up with the back end of last weeks episodes...I'm officially done starting from tonight. It's just so, so bad, and I can no longer justify watching it.

I'm sure I'll return to it one day but for now it's goodbye!

Posted by: T Boy 2nd July 2018, 09:26 PM

No Mick tonight!!!!!

Was all about the music for me. The first time I’ve heard Pink’s Whatever You Want getting any kind of airplay, Jean doing the dishes to Las Ketchup and Max and Rainie getting it on to Sex On Fire.

Posted by: lewistgreen 2nd July 2018, 09:51 PM

Jean doing the dishes to Last Ketchup. Wow it's all going on in Walford rn.

Posted by: Nick Jonas 2nd July 2018, 10:00 PM

Everyone’s talking about it... just not for the right reasons

Posted by: T Boy 6th July 2018, 05:11 PM

I actually really enjoyed both episodes last night. Lots of focus on characters I actually care about like Donna, Rainie, Carmel and Keegan. Only the shoehorned Mick scene pissed me off (he is the living embodiment of all bad connotations of football).

I’m not going to hold my breath because I know we’ll just get treated to another 2 weeks of Stuart being evil and Mick looking stressed about it.

Last night was the first time I ever felt I was watching the aftermath of Abi’s death.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 6th July 2018, 05:19 PM

Max should be the dead one, let's not forget!

I fastforward any Max scenes. It is non-canon for me. He died on that roof. If the producers didn't fancy him so much, he would be gone. Any other soap, he woulda died, not another female. Also, impossible he would EEEVER EEEEEVER get Abby's baby from her mother AND grandmother AND sister AND cousin. Ridiculous. Max got her killed. They would not uproot the child. Foookin rididuclous. Do they know ANYTHING about child welfare/ social services?? Weell seeing ad they gave a PREMATURE BABY to Max to HOLD, I am guessssing no.

Lemme get this right:

Stacey and her three kids
Martin
Hayley
Kat
Jean
Big Moe
Whitney
TIFF

11 people in the same house? Plus Alfie when he inevitably pollutes the show again and brings Kat down, plus Tommy? And whose house is this? The Slater house was further up the street with a different kіtchen. This house is the one next to the garage where they keep the cameras and crew equipment.

Posted by: Maz! 6th July 2018, 05:31 PM

It used to be the Jackson house but Martin and Stacey bought it .

Posted by: T Boy 6th July 2018, 05:35 PM

The house was a tardis when Pat owned it.

Posted by: JAKE 6th July 2018, 08:53 PM

this episode is incredible

bonnie langford 🙇‍♂️ 👏

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 6th July 2018, 09:12 PM

I assume the production garage is meant to be a house extension with another bedroom in it and one or two over it?

Posted by: Mart!n 6th July 2018, 09:26 PM

That was a very emotionally episode, and for other people that lost their loved ones through knife attacks, also Ben Kinsalla, Brooke's brother, Brooke herself was in Eastenders.

Posted by: Maz! 6th July 2018, 09:32 PM

What a powerful and emotional episode, couldn't keep it dry at the end

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 6th July 2018, 10:39 PM

Was the docudrama good then?

Posted by: Liаm 7th July 2018, 01:00 AM

That was incredible, just shows what the show is capable of when it actually focuses on the right things and tackles real, gritty issues. Bonnie Langford deserves every soap award possible, she barely even moved or spoke yet she conveyed everything perfectly, a totally beguiling performance.

Posted by: T Boy 8th July 2018, 07:07 PM

3 pretty good episodes in a row and then the spoiler for tomorrow is ‘Linda is shocked as Stuart turns nasty’ and you realise that we’re already back to going round in circles.

Posted by: lewistgreen 8th July 2018, 07:49 PM

Ugh Stuart genuinely isn't working as a character and hasn't helped to develop Halfway whatsoever, if anything he's overshadowing him.

Posted by: pippa 9th July 2018, 07:27 PM

Stuart is a disaster. EastEnders has struggled with character development for a while now although they did well with the Taylors.
Credit to Coronation Street and to a much lesser extent Emmerdale, they know how to slowly introduce a character and then turn them into huge characters with strong dominating and rating winning storylines.

Posted by: Liаm 9th July 2018, 07:30 PM

Screaming at Stuart "turning nasty" being him saying "I go where I want when I want", poor Linda is truly not safe xx

Posted by: Mart!n 9th July 2018, 07:45 PM

The Stuart story needs to end, I really don't see the plot around this story.

Posted by: pippa 10th July 2018, 01:54 PM

Stuart came in and became far to prominent to quickly.
Had he got a slow introduction and a slightly stronger storyline the show may had a good a baddie.
EastEnders hasn't had a real good baddie since Trevor, the Little Mo and Trevor storyline was unmissable.

Posted by: Mart!n 10th July 2018, 03:05 PM

If the football goes into extra time tonight, I know Eastenders due to transmit 9:30pm, it probably won't be shown until Thursday with an extra episode at some point.

Posted by: lewistgreen 10th July 2018, 03:07 PM

I'm hoping they'll just move it to BBC Two at maybe 10pm at something but we'll just see!

Posted by: Mart!n 10th July 2018, 03:11 PM

I can't see that happening, when was the last time it was moved to BBC2, very rarely

Posted by: T Boy 10th July 2018, 07:50 PM

Stuart is like the new Aunt Babe. Constantly doing questionable things, every Carter gets holier than thou about it, he mopes for a minute or two and they forgive him straight away and yet are still shocked and disgusted when he’s a dick again. It took them 3 years to get rid of Babe...

The issue is that he’s not half as good as Annette Badland.

Posted by: liamk97 10th July 2018, 10:39 PM

Considering what happened to Linda in the past, I imagine that would have been pretty intimidating.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 11th July 2018, 12:10 AM

How big are Sharon and Phil getting!!!

Posted by: T Boy 11th July 2018, 05:15 AM

Erm, they don’t seem any ‘bigger’ than usual? In any sense of that word?

Posted by: lewistgreen 12th July 2018, 06:59 PM

Wait what has happened between Stuart and Tina?

We Call It Acieed played at the end there is a tune.

Posted by: Mack. 12th July 2018, 07:24 PM

Maybe she got attacked by Stuart when she was younger.

Posted by: T Boy 12th July 2018, 09:44 PM

Does Tina even sleep with women tho? Does Sonia even count?

Posted by: Botchia 💡 12th July 2018, 09:48 PM

They really cannot write Tina properly, can they?

Posted by: liamk97 13th July 2018, 11:30 AM

Exit for Carmel. I'm gutted.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 13th July 2018, 11:37 AM

Yet still no exit for Max. Do they want a show only of men they fancy??

That funeral episode was awful. If they focused on the drama around the family and not around Mick, they could have tackled it MUCH better. The docudrama was uncomfortable and like a documentary. It showed they had no faith in their drama, because there was very little BECAUSE THEY FOCUSED ON MICK!! That made the storyline go flat.

Posted by: pippa 13th July 2018, 12:44 PM

I cant get my head around the direction of the show, its is jumping from pillar to post and lacking real substance.
Mick was a character i enjoyed but now they just seem to be determined to have in as many scenes as possible and its far from needed.

That exit news is very disappointing. Certainly one of the stronger characters on the show right now.

Posted by: T Boy 13th July 2018, 03:45 PM

I can see why that’s happening as the current storyline does leave the character with less to do later on when it’s over and done with, I will miss her though. At least she was utilised during her stint.

Did the funeral focus on Mick tho? I thought Carmel and Kush were very much the focus. Was Mick even there?

Posted by: Liаm 13th July 2018, 04:08 PM

I swear Mick wasn't in the episode?

Posted by: Maz! 13th July 2018, 04:23 PM

Mick wasn't in the episode no.

Posted by: T Boy 14th July 2018, 10:56 AM

I was bored to tears by Tina’s story.

Loving Donna getting more to do but I guess this is leading to her exit.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 14th July 2018, 06:15 PM

I meant the knife drama full stop. The culmination to the weak drama was thr funeral, but the drama was weak as it focused on Mick and his stupid facial expressions than on the family and knifecrime.

Posted by: Mack. 14th July 2018, 11:00 PM

Nancy Carter is now a paramedic at Holby's Casualty Dept.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th July 2018, 02:22 PM

Tinas story was just pathetic, completely anti climax reveal. The storylines have no impact at all its like they are completely struggling for ideas.

Posted by: Liаm 15th July 2018, 03:07 PM

Haven't caught up yet but with this Tina thing it just felt like they remembered "oh yeah we have Tina" and thought "let's shoehorn Stuart into something else at the same time" I mean I guess as it's presumably after Stuart going to prison it adds to the whole "prison broke him" thing but I just don't like when they get a character and force t hem into so many things, like they could give Tina something to do without adding to the already tedious Stuart takeover... I think EE needs to realise that just because they have a potentially interesting character, they don't need to make the whole show about them as soon as they're introduced. With say the Taylors, they took a while to establish themselves and then had their moments to shine, and that's why they work so well. I don't see how we're meant to care about Stuart when he's come into the show.

Posted by: T Boy 15th July 2018, 03:29 PM

Problem with Stuart is he was quite obviously creepy and evil from the get go. It would have been better if they tried to make us like him first and then twisted it. The fact that every character except Mick was wary of him from the start really hasn’t helped and just makes Mick further look like a pillock and an incredibly poor judge of character.

Posted by: T Boy 17th July 2018, 06:08 PM

Stuart story going nowhere as expected.

Posted by: lewistgreen 17th July 2018, 07:36 PM

Cannot deal with the level of ridiculousness once again

What are these storylines?!

Posted by: Jαsє 17th July 2018, 08:43 PM

Bless you guys for sticking it out - you've got more patience than I have, that's for sure

Posted by: T Boy 17th July 2018, 09:25 PM

Why are they not constantly suspicious of Stuart tho?

Posted by: Botchia 💡 17th July 2018, 10:54 PM

I just watch it if I've got nothing better to do. If I miss an episode, I certainly don't bother catching up anymore!

Posted by: T Boy 18th July 2018, 07:14 PM

Ruby Allen is randomly returning.

Posted by: liamk97 18th July 2018, 07:29 PM

A blast from the past! One of those names I've heard express an interest in returning but didn't think ever could.

Posted by: lewistgreen 18th July 2018, 07:31 PM

What on Earth?! I'm assuming this is for something Stacey related then?

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 18th July 2018, 07:33 PM

Probably will be given Abi's personality

Posted by: lewistgreen 18th July 2018, 07:36 PM

Ofcom are apparently investigating the decline in viewing figures for EE and Corrie. Shouldn't take them long to work out the issue surely

Posted by: Cameron 18th July 2018, 07:50 PM

I've not watched this since May... idk whats happening

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 18th July 2018, 07:52 PM

Lmao what!!

Just a few years ago right wing rags were falsely attacking Corrie for 'ratings crises' with 7-8 million due to 'moving away from traditional roots' in having 'more gay characters' on!! Why aren't they saying anything aboot EE now?

Posted by: Botchia 💡 18th July 2018, 08:06 PM

How utterly random?!

Posted by: pippa 19th July 2018, 09:55 AM

Extremely random and due to the many disappointments of late, i wont get my hopes too high when they say returning for a great storyline.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 20th July 2018, 01:39 AM

Her return should see a storyline for sharon.

Posted by: lewistgreen 21st July 2018, 03:42 PM

VERY low-key exit for Donna there, undeserved tbh.

Posted by: Liаm 21st July 2018, 03:44 PM

She's gone?! We legit turned round to sort dinner out and it was over and we weren't sure what happened

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 21st July 2018, 03:56 PM

Did Super Max drive her out by any chance?

Apparently it slays the bbc iplayer, so maybe the viewing figures haven't changed all that much

Posted by: T Boy 21st July 2018, 04:08 PM

Max actually backed her up in the main. Rainie and Robbie’s reaction drove her to go.

Such as shame to see Donna gone tbh. Especially given they only just used her properly again recently. Then again, she’s lasted four years and Lisa Hammond left of her own accord.

Posted by: Klaus 21st July 2018, 04:10 PM

B-List Ronnie and Roxy?

Posted by: Botchia 💡 21st July 2018, 04:11 PM

Shame to see her have a low key exit but I'm surprised Donna even managed to last this long on the show!

Posted by: T Boy 21st July 2018, 05:15 PM

Rainie is so much better than either of those tho.

Posted by: Andrew. 22nd July 2018, 11:26 PM

Apparently Kate Oates is in talks to produce EastEnders.

Posted by: JosephAvery 22nd July 2018, 11:38 PM

Please! *.* She took Corrie from being the worst soap to the best, so I'd love to see her bring EastEnders back to the top of the pack.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 23rd July 2018, 12:02 AM

The details I found out online were that Eastenders is one of the most popular shows on iplayer, but not one of those getting 4-7 million streams like the top programmes.

"he most popular individual show on iPlayer during the festive period was the Christmas Day episode of EastEnders, which was requested 1.6m times. Six of the top 10 shows on iPlayer were episodes of EastEnders, with other popular programmes including the series four finale of Peaky Blinders and the Christmas specials of Doctor Who and Mrs Brown’s Boys."

So we could probably add over a million to the daily viewers, taking it actually into the 5 million range.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 23rd July 2018, 01:40 AM

I would welcome Kate Oates as producer as I enjoyed her work on both emmerdale and Corrie, whoever gets the job as there work cut out as so much needs to be done and it will take time. I'm so disappointed with John yorks work,the improvements he made are very very slight. The current Tina storyline is just awful, they really could have come up with a far better reveal.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd July 2018, 03:12 AM

Kate Oates did wonders for Corrie and that was in as much of a terrible place as EE currently is tbh, so I'd welcome that!

Posted by: T Boy 23rd July 2018, 06:34 AM

Kate Oates would need to have the balls to remove the Carters from the Vic.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd July 2018, 09:12 PM

Ngl, I howled at Robbie staring at the doner kebab sign.

Posted by: Mart!n 23rd July 2018, 09:25 PM

I remember her she had connections with Steve, Mel, Jake and Joe, and I can't remember her father's name the guy from the Bill

Posted by: Mack. 23rd July 2018, 09:27 PM

It was Johnny Allen played by Billy Murray wasn't it?

Posted by: lewistgreen 23rd July 2018, 09:55 PM

It was indeed! Will.be interesting to see how/who they interact Ruby with. Be nice to see some scenes with Sharon and Phil considering her dad was responsible for a lot of upset for them such as Dennis's death and Phil's revenge because of that.

Posted by: Jαsє 23rd July 2018, 10:26 PM

If Kate's on board then I'll return to watching! I get the impression (especially from the interviews I've seen) that she's quite feisty/gives zero f***s about upsetting people.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd July 2018, 10:29 PM

I'd make it my personal mission to get her a damehood if she did that tbh

Posted by: liamk97 23rd July 2018, 10:48 PM

I've not liked a lot of her work at Corrie (2013-15 Emmerdale was largely fantastic though) so I feel sceptical about the idea of her taking over Eastenders but, one thing is for sure, she knows how to build hype and work social media. We'd be guaranteed a show that was at least exciting, even if there were bad points to storylines, which is an improvement on now when largely nothing is happening and there's no hype either.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 23rd July 2018, 10:55 PM

Eastenders has always excelled at big camp over the top storylines. Kathy1's return should have been like a spy mystery, not samosas.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd July 2018, 11:16 PM

The issue based storylines have been where Corrie has excelled recently, for example Bethany's grooming. That's what makes it a must watch, you don't get any of that in Eastenders. It's just mundane or tired shite wrung out for ages, if there's even anything happening at all :/ Corrie's got some criticism for being a bit depressing but I'd much much rather have that than the total non event of EE recently.

Posted by: pippa 24th July 2018, 04:30 PM

I think Kate Oates could be the ideal person to take charge, on saying that i feel it wont happen as i cant see Kate departing ITV.
That said, she knows how Soaps work, and I feel her work speaks for itself as it brought great success to both Emmerdale and Coronation Street when she served as executive producer.
Something drastic needs to be done with EastEnders soon as it has lost its footing for a very long time now, and possibly the longest I can remember.

Posted by: Mart!n 24th July 2018, 07:00 PM

I hate to say this, but...

YES!!!!! good riddance.

Posted by: LeeWallace 24th July 2018, 07:00 PM

First time watching EE in over a month, Stuart really is an absolute terrible character, isn’t he?

Posted by: T Boy 24th July 2018, 09:28 PM

Omg tell me he’s actually dead and Mick will take the fall and go down for life.

Then at least 30% of EE’s issues will be resolved.

Posted by: lewistgreen 24th July 2018, 10:53 PM

Tina getting her 'you need slapping down' moment in the exact same place *.*

Posted by: T Boy 25th July 2018, 08:29 AM

Omg Ben Mitchell teas *.*

Posted by: lewistgreen 25th July 2018, 07:22 PM

Return confirmed for Dr Harold Legg, former Walford GP, who made appearances between 1985 and 2007. He will be returning for an 'emotional' storyline with Dot.

Posted by: T Boy 25th July 2018, 07:25 PM

OMFG I thought he was dead!

Posted by: liamk97 25th July 2018, 09:47 PM

I had always imagined he'd return one day but as an exit storyline for Dot. Whilst the article does suggest someone might die, it seems more likely to be Dr Legg.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 25th July 2018, 10:32 PM

Is he dead??

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 10:18 AM

He’s 92 in real life so it could be his official ‘exit’

Posted by: gavindeejay 26th July 2018, 10:32 AM

Wow! Never expected that! I hope it's all done properly!

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 10:44 AM

No, I meant the man who got slapppin darrwwn the other night

Posted by: Liаm 26th July 2018, 01:24 PM

Sadly I doubt it, that would require Eastenders to be doing the right thing

Posted by: Mack. 26th July 2018, 06:28 PM

Sharon apparently set to have an affair with Keanu

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 06:36 PM

Didn’t everyone call that months ago?

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 06:57 PM

But he is an attractive man in his 20s? She is in her 50s, unhealthily huge, and make-uped to the hilt AND his boss' wife. No.

Posted by: Mart!n 26th July 2018, 07:00 PM

And the plot thickens, how the hell did he just get a knock, seriously do we have to string this story so long

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 07:06 PM

Can you stop body shaming Letitia Dean please? FFS

Posted by: Botchia 26th July 2018, 07:26 PM

Yes *.* But we all called this months ago :')

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 07:32 PM

Sooo you think it is realistic??

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 07:35 PM

No but it’s just entertainment and my issue was clearly about your derogatory comments about a woman’s weight.

And actually, perhaps Keane just isn’t as superficial as you are.

Posted by: lewistgreen 26th July 2018, 07:39 PM

Jesus wept this Stuart storyline needs to end. Halfway turning up at the end with that dopey look on his face like he was surprised was just major eye rolls.

What I'm hoping is underlying here is a significant mental health plot for Stuart that may bring some depth to his character but they've ruined any sort of potential impact if that's the case. But I think that's me just being wishful when what is actually happening is just a terrible attempt at a (not) 'shocking' storyline.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 07:40 PM

Come off it - even you can't believe this storyline even for one second!

Posted by: LeeWallace 26th July 2018, 07:48 PM

Actually cba with another affair

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 08:05 PM

I can because it’s been implied since the start of the year. And I can see Keanu going there, wasn’t he an escort for older women some time ago?

Posted by: HarryEzra 26th July 2018, 08:08 PM

Ew at the body shaming comment from Michael shame on you. Everyone is attractive to someone.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 08:12 PM

And shame on you for puttin Ellie Goulding and Michael Jackson above Mozart! And she is attractive to Phil!

Yeah, no. It is EXTREMELY unrealsitic.

1. He had ZERO attraction as escort to those women. It was a huge part of the storyline.
2. He has only fancied pretty women his own age
3. Sharon is his boss' WIFE
4. His boss is MAFIA
5. Sharon is NOT in the best shape, and neither is Phill. She is also much older, go back to points 1 and 2. Would you think it realistic if Hayley got with Iane Beale? No? Why not I wonder??

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 08:14 PM

f*** sake they had Phil sleep with Dawn Swann! It’s not REAL.

Seriously maybe you should stop watching?

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 08:17 PM

I fast-forward through all the stupid, unbelievable stuff - like Max being alive/ irresistible/ irresistible to a MOTHER WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SCHOOL PLAY AND WHO HAS THREE KIDS IN SAID PLAY/ IS WELL KNOWN AT SAID SCHOOL/ HAS HER HUSBAND WAITING IN AUDIENCE!!! Or when they gave Max a PREMATURE BABY TO HOLD. Abby. They reaaaaaally stretch the seams for Max. Coronation Street manages to be believable? I told someone aboot that affair and they LITERALLY said they will stop watching. Dawn with Phil was also wildly unrealistic.

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 08:19 PM

You must fast forward through all of it then. Probably why you never have anything of substance to say.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 08:19 PM

Not the Slaters x

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 08:21 PM

Unlike you who just gaped open-mouthed at Stacey and MAx without ever questioning why every writer on that storyline wasn't immediately fired for gross incompetence?

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 08:23 PM

Good lord, what are you on about?

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 26th July 2018, 08:25 PM

Stacey and Max at Christmas. It literally made no sense, went against what people would REALLY do, how they would act with societal expectations when expected to be in a play, how she would act when she has a family, and let's face it, Max is also not some sex god. He looks like a baked bean.

Posted by: T Boy 26th July 2018, 08:52 PM

But it’s not real. Chillax.

Posted by: Jαsє 27th July 2018, 12:49 AM

Absolutely riveting

Posted by: Tonya 27th July 2018, 09:34 PM

‘Mum? We ain’t inviting Sonia!’

Posted by: Mart!n 27th July 2018, 09:55 PM

Linda, "you ain't got your face on"

howling

Posted by: pippa 30th July 2018, 06:04 PM

Is that Sharon rumour just too similiar to a recent enough storyline that was by no means popular.

Posted by: Tonya 30th July 2018, 06:06 PM

I think the difference this time is that Keanu is over 18 and that Sharon is not in a position where she has a duty of care towards him. There’s an age gap but they’re truly two consenting adults.

I miss new Michelle

Posted by: lewistgreen 30th July 2018, 07:04 PM

I feel like I would too if they had actually given her a decent storyline apart from the 3 seconds we saw her standing up to stalker Tom.

Posted by: pippa 30th July 2018, 08:14 PM

The stalker storyline has huge potential to be great but it was so badly finished out and was all far to rushed.

Posted by: Tonya 30th July 2018, 10:03 PM

The vicar is my favourite.

Posted by: pippa 31st July 2018, 12:26 PM

Rainie has the potential to be a legendary character if giving the right scripts.

Posted by: lewistgreen 31st July 2018, 07:44 PM

Jean was the absolute highlight this evening, especially that scene with her and Hayley in the hospital after the scan.

Posted by: Tonya 31st July 2018, 10:12 PM

Jean is such a Queen of Life.

Posted by: Summer Blossom 31st July 2018, 10:16 PM

Who is writing this crap?

Vicars have seen it all and do NOT speak like that, not even in the more blunt North East.

Posted by: Botchia 31st July 2018, 11:13 PM

omg I just rediscovered this:



I miss Dot

Posted by: Tonya 1st August 2018, 09:05 AM

!!!! At the Sonia shade!

Yes, a vicar getting irritated at a bunch of morons interfering with her schedule, totally the most unrealistic things ever to grace the show.

Posted by: Summer Blossom 1st August 2018, 09:52 AM

It was an unrealistic portrayal of a character type which totally belies the nonsensical writing underpinning the show

Posted by: Shandy Leer 1st August 2018, 07:02 PM

Sharon getting D that isn't manky for once is the best storyline in YEARS. Get it Shaz

Posted by: Tonya 2nd August 2018, 10:29 PM

f*** me, is Mo really supposed to be 82?

Gillian Wright is killing it.

Posted by: liamk97 2nd August 2018, 10:46 PM

Meant to be the same age as Dot I believe, even though there's nearly a 20 year difference in age between the two actors.

Posted by: Tonya 3rd August 2018, 06:46 AM

Mo actually hasn’t aged in almost 20 years.

Posted by: Bilbo Ballbaggin 3rd August 2018, 07:32 AM

Jean is slaying

Posted by: Mack. 3rd August 2018, 10:38 AM

With Dr Legg returning, are there any original characters that you would like to see return and why?

Posted by: pippa 3rd August 2018, 04:07 PM

Jean is one of the very few saviours of the show right now.
Ethel would be the one original character i would choose, but sadly Gretchen passed away.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd August 2018, 07:30 PM

That ending was CREEPY as hell

Posted by: Mack. 3rd August 2018, 09:47 PM

Typical enders - Billy setting himself up again and again.

Posted by: Tonya 3rd August 2018, 10:08 PM

I sort of need to know whether Shirley laughing at the pizza boy was scripted or Linda Henry genuinely couldn’t keep it together whilst playing out that awful sequence.

Posted by: Bilbo Ballbaggin 4th August 2018, 12:30 AM

This is ridiculous.

They would never have left an important expensive delivery with bloody Hunter. They would have been there first.

Posted by: Botchia 4th August 2018, 10:37 AM

that whole pizza delivery thing :') I hope Linda Henry pissing herself in the background was unscripted.

I feel like that's the most Denny has been on screen in years?!

Posted by: Tonya 4th August 2018, 03:58 PM

Seriously? Everything that went on in that episode and you pick THAT out to be the most unrealistic part? You really are trolling this thread.

Posted by: Bilbo Ballbaggin 4th August 2018, 05:28 PM

Urgh there you go like the UK media trying to find mud that sticks and continuing to throw it.

Yes I did pick it out. I also laughed at that stupid pizza bit. Just because one part is even MORE unrealistic than another does NOT make that other part more realistic.

What is your problem? Back. Off.

Posted by: Botchia 4th August 2018, 05:30 PM

Can we pls channel our energy into slating the show rather than each other. Ta x

Posted by: Mack. 4th August 2018, 09:53 PM

Anyone going to be watching Classic EastEnders starting from Monday on Drama?

Posted by: gavindeejay 5th August 2018, 05:39 PM

I can’t as I’m I work. Will it be available on the UKTV catch up service? I’ll be really gutted if not as I would love to see the first ever episodes in full!

Posted by: Shandy Leer 6th August 2018, 01:17 AM

also Ethel died

Posted by: gavindeejay 6th August 2018, 03:15 PM

Classic Eastenders is available to catch up on the UKTV Player That's my evening sorted!

Posted by: Shandy Leer 6th August 2018, 04:25 PM

Mary the punk needs to come back

Posted by: Tonya 6th August 2018, 09:14 PM

So Tina absolutely cannot talk about Stuart.

She then promptly goes completely out of her way to force Halfway to discuss him with her.

Posted by: Jαsє 6th August 2018, 10:29 PM

I watched tonight out of boredom. They're not even trying anymore are they?

Posted by: Liаm 6th August 2018, 10:31 PM

I've given up, EVERY time I think hey I'll give it a chance, it completely puts me off by co-incidentally being an awful Stuart heavy episode

Posted by: Tonya 7th August 2018, 09:30 AM

He was barely even in it last night but even others talking about him is boring.

Let what is the message with this storyline? That the Carters are such bad judges of character, it’s taken them 20 years to notice their mate is a psycho?

Posted by: Mack. 7th August 2018, 11:56 AM

Classic Eastenders on Drama was great to see the classic characters again for full episodes rather than just clips. Apparently it might only be on for 6 weeks for some reason, but if ratings were decent they might continue.

Posted by: Slick 7th August 2018, 01:24 PM

I actually dread watching this show these days. (Not my choice to watch.) I was done about 6 months ago. The whole thing is so cringey, predictable and boring.

Posted by: JosephAvery 7th August 2018, 01:32 PM

I'm honestly amazed they're allowing it to continue being this terrible. The knife crime storyline seemed like a brief blip in a huge mess and it's been like this for at least 18 months. I remain optimistic it will pick up, Corrie had a rough patch a few years ago and has come back better than ever IMO but there are no signs of any improvement here.

The Stuart storyline has been stupid from start to finish. He arrives and we're immediately meant to find him threatening and scary, but why? I'd rather they introduced him as a nice guy, perhaps a little unhinged but nothing more, and built him up as a villain from there (see: Phelan in Corrie, Lachlan in Emmerdale - they didn't start out being the most evil people ever, a string of events led to them ending up where they did). This seems to be the problem with most EastEnders villains these days, we're supposed to fear them just because. It's not a sci-fi show with the need for constant villains.

Posted by: Liаm 7th August 2018, 03:01 PM

Honestly!! How have they not intervened and got someone else in, when John Yorke came in I was really hopeful that because he was behind the Slaters and some iconic moments, he'd be able to bring it back round but other than flashes of the good from the Slaters and the knife crime plot there's been absolutely nothing. I suppose it's not just up to an EP and there's a whole team of writers that needs to go honestly but they really need to do something. They're just not even trying as said, there's either nothing happening or it's just Stuart or the effects of Stuart for a whole episode. Some of the stuff that's happening like the Slaters' christening would be fine as sort of "B plot" stuff to actual things happening, but watching Hayley fit in with the Slaters slowly isn't enough to make the show watchable or good when there's so much turgid shite to wade through otherwise.

Posted by: Tonya 7th August 2018, 04:39 PM

I really think that they need to get rid of Danny Dyer but they won’t. The Carters are stale as they are but they keep being overused because they think that Danny Dyer is the only thing keeping them afloat. They clearly had no idea what they were doing with this Stuart stuff but they’re also giving it all the airtime because they think it’s a cash cow. Linda, Shirley and even Tina feel constrained as characters because they’re chained to Mick and I think they’d flourish without him. It’s been almost 5 years but get them out the Vic and get someone new in.

Spoilers for the next week or so all seem to be about Sharon and Keanu which I’m looking forward to but what’s the betting we have about 2 good episodes and then we’re back on Stuart?

I’m not ready to jump ship yet which surprises me because I did after only a couple of episodes when Zainab got that awful exit in 2013. For me I feel like the pretty strong cast can save it, it’s not like we’ve had a mass exodus of big names like Nina Wadia, Charlie Brooks and Jo Joyner back then. But they do need to use what they have properly-Honey, Jay, Sharon and Kathy are all underused.

Jean is literally the only life giving character at the moment.

Posted by: gavindeejay 7th August 2018, 05:05 PM

I hope it’s on longer. I really enjoyed watching it on catch up last night. Looking forward to watching again later on!

Posted by: Mack. 8th August 2018, 12:40 PM

Arshad and Miriam are they still in?

Posted by: Tonya 8th August 2018, 12:41 PM

I’m half expecting them to kill off Mariam before Christmas a la Joyce.

Posted by: Mack. 8th August 2018, 12:57 PM

Broadcast Magazine has reported that Kate Oates has been hired by the BBC to take charge of EastEnders, Casualty and Holby City.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/bbc-studios/bbcs-brings-in-soaps-supremo-/5131539.article

Posted by: gavindeejay 8th August 2018, 12:59 PM

Good! Hopefully she will take over with immediate effect to save EE!

Posted by: Liаm 8th August 2018, 02:04 PM

Ik people have had their problems with her, but she's very good at hard hitting issues which is really what EE needs right now. I mean look at how great the knife crime plot was, it wasn't too sensationalist or jumping the shark it was just a real and impactful issue that gave underused characters a chance to shine. That's what the show needs, some more issue based storylines and the like. This "realism" or whatever on earth they're going for right now might be good on paper but it's just terminally dull virtually all the time. And say what you want about Kate Oates (and there were still holes in her time there, such as Mary's son pretending to be a marine biologist and Toyah/Eva's fake baby shite) but the shape that Corrie is in after her stint compared to after Stuart Blackburn had ruined it to a level that's not far off EE right now is incredible.

Posted by: Andrew. 8th August 2018, 02:25 PM

Confirmed by Kate!! *.*

Thank god, the longest time I’ve watched EastEnders is like five months in 2014, I’ve watched a fair amount since then but caught last Friday’s episode and just couldn’t.

Posted by: liamk97 8th August 2018, 02:33 PM

I was not a fan of most of Kate's work on Corrie (and some of it I detested) but there's no denying her enthusiasm and her ability to get people talking about the shows she works on. That is one of the biggest things missing from Eastenders and I think she'll be able to reinstate that.

Hopefully she can shake up the writing team and fix characterisation too.

Posted by: Jαsє 8th August 2018, 02:45 PM

She's taking over from October so we'll start seeing her work from probably December/January 2019. It looks like that's when I'll start watching

Posted by: pippa 8th August 2018, 03:10 PM

I welcome this news.
Kate Oates should be able to turn the show around ( i wont get my hopes too high as i fully expected John Yorke to do this)
Without doubt i can see quiet a few characters getting the axe as there is plenty of room for this.
Kate will at the least need 6 months for any impact as she has very little to work with starting off as the storylines just aren't there to build on right now.
This is likely a very nervous time for the cast.

Posted by: JAKE 8th August 2018, 03:15 PM

“there’s no denying her enthusiasm”

would you write this about a man?

Posted by: liamk97 8th August 2018, 03:18 PM

I'm not sure I follow?

Posted by: Tonya 8th August 2018, 03:31 PM

I don’t watch Corrie or Emmerdale but the fact that I’ve heard her name many times in recent years leads me to believe this is a good decision. FFS it needs sorting out.

From what I’ve heard of Kate Oates, I believe she’s probably brave enough to not constantly bow down to Danny Dyer.

Posted by: pippa 8th August 2018, 03:33 PM

Kate appears to have no fear and will take the moves she feels is best for the show.
I am happy for the Carters to stay but not to the dominant level they have now as they particularly Mick is pushed into almost every episode.

Posted by: JosephAvery 8th August 2018, 03:34 PM

Kate Oates is a superb choice, I'm actually really excited about EastEnders under her leadership!

Posted by: Botchia 8th August 2018, 08:19 PM

God is real *.* She's exactly what the show needs right now to take it out of the current pedestrian rut it's got stuck in since 2016.

Also perfect timing to hopefully have a big impact over Christmas to hook some lost viewers back in.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th August 2018, 12:59 AM

Not sure if she has enough time to make an impact in time for Christmas but I think 2019 should see the show back on form as we have waited long enough. Is Kate the first to be executive producer on eastenders, corrie and emmerdale?

Posted by: Mack. 9th August 2018, 09:37 AM

Do we need a return of Janine?

Posted by: pippa 9th August 2018, 01:35 PM

Janine was always an interesting character but without Pat she may not have the same appeal.
I would welcome a new " square bitch" there is no reason not to be able to develop new characters that can work just as good.

Posted by: Jαsє 10th August 2018, 01:46 AM

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/feature/a863551/eastenders-spoilers-kate-oates-producer-predictions/

Posted by: Mack. 10th August 2018, 11:41 AM

Stuart's exit is probably going to be the big New Year story.

Posted by: Tonya 11th August 2018, 09:57 PM

Just caught up. Two observations.

1) why are so many characters wearing woolly hats in August?
2) Rainie and Honey need loads more scenes together.

Posted by: liamk97 13th August 2018, 03:53 PM

Yes! "Do you have herbal?" "Not in a mug" had me cracking up!

Posted by: gavindeejay 13th August 2018, 03:58 PM

I'm way behind with the current EE as I'm spending my time watching the classic series on the UKTV Player

Posted by: Tonya 13th August 2018, 09:40 PM

They did NOT just recast little Ricky! He was my fave!

Seeing Amy tonight made me wish Roxy was still alive. So short sighted.

Posted by: Jαsє 13th August 2018, 09:55 PM

Just stick with the classic episodes!

Posted by: Hadji 13th August 2018, 11:07 PM

You can catch classic EastEnders on the drama channel weekdays at noon. They only started rerunning it last week which means they are on episode 13 from 1985

Posted by: Jαsє 14th August 2018, 01:13 PM

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a863911/eastenders-spoilers-stuart-highway-much-worse/
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a863891/eastenders-spoilers-masood-kathy-passion-ian-tension/

Hurry up Kate

Posted by: troublepink 14th August 2018, 01:27 PM

I don't watch Eastenders so I don't follow this thread... so apologises if this has already been posted!

Drama (UKTV Play) have started showing Classic Eastenders from the beginning. I think they're showing a couple of episodes a day at midday.

Posted by: Tonya 14th August 2018, 03:34 PM

My god the Stuart storyline looks like it’s winding down, seriously how much more can there be?

Posted by: Mack. 15th August 2018, 12:52 PM

Yes I are showing two episodes a day from the beginning, started last Monday.

Posted by: pippa 15th August 2018, 01:43 PM

At last Sharon is seeing what Dennis is like, it has taken her far too long.
Keanu and the Taylor's have really come into their own, mainly Karen, Keegan and Keanu.
Bernadette, i wouldn't say the same for as i really don't understand the direction of her character.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 16th August 2018, 06:58 PM

get it shaz

Posted by: Andrew. 16th August 2018, 07:15 PM

Sharon representing all of us when Keanu was topless *.*

Posted by: Mart!n 16th August 2018, 08:00 PM

At last Eastenders seem to be getting better, but I know where this is leading to. I just hope they don't string it.

Posted by: pippa 16th August 2018, 08:39 PM

The episodes this week are an improvement.
That said, we had less of Mick and Stuart which has helped.

Posted by: T Boy 16th August 2018, 09:53 PM

I honestly think this is making all the difference. It’s not difficult to sit through an episode without the worst characters/stories present.

I care about Sharon and Keanu. I care about Rainie. I care about Honey. I’m even interested in Mel and Jack. So I’ve had no problems with the episodes this week.

The Carters are seriously the biggest issue right now. The only decent one are Shirley and Linda and they get bugger all to do these days aside from react to Mick. How much better did Linda seem tonight without Mick hovering over her?

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 16th August 2018, 09:56 PM

Wonder if bringing in Danny Dyer has killed the show after he was ironically touted as the one to save it? Oop

And lol at CLASSIC EASTENDERS getting more impact than the current episodes!

Posted by: T Boy 17th August 2018, 07:55 AM

I SCREAMED

Posted by: liamk97 17th August 2018, 10:25 AM

8 is my fave.

I don't know what's happening on 3.

Posted by: pippa 17th August 2018, 12:50 PM

Your comments echo my own thoughts.

Posted by: Liаm 17th August 2018, 01:00 PM

It is for me anyway, as TBoy said they just shove him in everywhere and the episodes are far better when he isn't there to drain them. It's hard to give a shit at all about him or Stuart yet they're so much of the show recently. I get Danny is a big name, he's a bit of a dilf and people like him, but he's not such a big name that his stunt casting has to turn the show into something that revolves around him... No matter who the character is, they don't need as much forced airtime as him or any character will become stale.

Posted by: pippa 17th August 2018, 01:35 PM

I did like Mick, but in the last year in particular he is far too overused.
Linda is much more diverse and appealing but gets much less on screen time.

Posted by: T Boy 17th August 2018, 01:50 PM

I used to like Mick too but then he told his son he should have killed himself and it’s been downhill ever since. This time last year I was willing Linda to leave him.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 17th August 2018, 07:21 PM

keanu though omfg

Posted by: JAKE 17th August 2018, 07:23 PM

👏 👏 👏

Posted by: JAKE 17th August 2018, 07:23 PM

🍑 💦

Posted by: Shandy Leer 17th August 2018, 07:30 PM

omg this

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th August 2018, 07:46 PM

If they cut Danny time by 50% it would be fine.

Posted by: T Boy 17th August 2018, 10:06 PM

Sharon going off at Denny, I cheered.

Posted by: Slick 18th August 2018, 10:21 AM

LOVING Letitia Dean as the middle-aged housewife absolutely LUSTING over Keanu in the least subtle way possible. Relatable queen.

Posted by: Botchia 18th August 2018, 02:30 PM

That was so funny! I love her

Also her finally going off at Denny after all the time *.*

Posted by: JAKE 18th August 2018, 02:56 PM

sharon *.*

Posted by: Shandy Leer 18th August 2018, 03:21 PM

See how much better it is when mick pisses off

Posted by: Shandy Leer 18th August 2018, 03:22 PM

having said that tho Hayley can also piss off

Posted by: Botchia 18th August 2018, 03:23 PM

I actually like Hayley lmao

But yeah, the show is far better without Mick being shoehorned into every storyline

Posted by: T Boy 18th August 2018, 03:32 PM

Hayley’s not too bad tbh.

Posted by: JAKE 19th August 2018, 08:49 PM

hayley is fabulous

Posted by: JAKE 19th August 2018, 08:50 PM

tiff getting involved with ‘THE GANG’

kate HURRY THE HELL UP

Posted by: Shandy Leer 19th August 2018, 09:30 PM

bernie>>>>>

Posted by: T Boy 19th August 2018, 09:38 PM

Bernie being obsessed with an old man tho.

Posted by: JAKE 19th August 2018, 10:10 PM

killing off one half of a redundant pairing and spoiling a good character like bernie is v frustrating

Posted by: Mack. 20th August 2018, 08:34 AM

Who would people say is the best Slater at the moment?

Posted by: T Boy 20th August 2018, 09:39 AM

My favourite in the Slater clan is clearly Jean. She has it all.

Posted by: pippa 20th August 2018, 01:39 PM

Jean is the best Slater but i enjoy them all.
Bernie is too much of a wet blanket as is the ridiculous Ian and Mel so called storyline.

Posted by: T Boy 20th August 2018, 01:55 PM

I actually don’t mind Ian lusting after Mel and her not giving a shit/taking advantage. What I don’t like is that it’s being pushed as a storyline rather than just some amusing character interactions.

Posted by: pippa 20th August 2018, 04:40 PM

I don't see what the point of the storyline is unless an out of blue moment comes and they actually get together.
Mel never really loved him years ago so i am bewildered why she would even entertain him now considering the lie he told her so they could get married in the first place.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 20th August 2018, 07:20 PM

what the f*** is this

Posted by: Shandy Leer 20th August 2018, 07:21 PM

Bernie is better than this

Posted by: Botchia 20th August 2018, 07:38 PM

awful episode

Posted by: Andrew. 20th August 2018, 07:40 PM

I watched it as the channel was on BBC One and it was ok. The best part was that brat Hunter getting sacked *.*

Posted by: Botchia 20th August 2018, 07:42 PM

Kate Oates can't come soon enough, imo

It's just so so pedestrian atm

Posted by: Andrew. 20th August 2018, 07:43 PM

Yeah I can imagine if you’re a proper fan!! Kate Oates could do wonders at EE imo, I think sometimes she held back a bit at Corrie because it’s more lighthearted (Phelan’s exit being an example) but EE is meant to be gritty.

Posted by: JAKE 20th August 2018, 08:05 PM

1) why would you be a partial fan of something / life is too short
2) what is lighthearted about a serial killer murdering 6+ ppl that cumulates in a siege that sees eileen nearly die?
3) in what way did kate “hold back”?!
4) no

Posted by: JAKE 20th August 2018, 08:06 PM

as has been the case for the past two years

kate will do a fab job

Posted by: Andrew. 20th August 2018, 08:11 PM

well as I’ve said before I’ve always dipped in and out of EE as it’s never held my interest for long enough but I like to keep up with it and if nothing else is on I will watch it, I don’t see why I need to justify that

There are rumours that Kate Oates quit because the BGT week was watered down- eg nothing even happening until the last five minutes of Thursday, only Phelan dying etc. I’m not sure about it tbh but not long before she left she said she’d stay for another year...

Posted by: Shandy Leer 20th August 2018, 08:37 PM

you mean the exit that involved him getting stabbed

Posted by: T Boy 20th August 2018, 09:21 PM

It actually could have been worse.

Stuart and Mick could have been back.

Posted by: liamk97 21st August 2018, 05:31 PM

Catching up on episodes... just watching Thursday's episode and how much better a character is Phil when he's a father figure to Dennis? Shame that it's just being done to make Phil seem sympathetic when Keanu and Sharon begin their affair.

Posted by: Liаm 21st August 2018, 05:49 PM

I think yesterday's was about as bad as it can be without Stuart to drag it down to the unspeakable depths

Posted by: T Boy 21st August 2018, 09:37 PM

Ted: Sonia what are you even doing here? I howled.

Having said that, why on Earth would all these people care for Ted when he has next to no likeable qualities. I’m waiting to hear that an exit is beckoning.

Everything Sonia did today felt awkward and random.

Ian’s resturaunt looks piss poor. That VIP area and the fact Kim and Denise actually stood there all evening *_*

Posted by: gavindeejay 23rd August 2018, 07:00 AM

As annoying as he his to us viewers, in reality Ted's an OAP who has lost his wife so it's probably a good thing that the community are very caring and hope it's sending out a good message that we should check in and care

Totally agree though this weeks back to being poor after somewhat improving last week.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd August 2018, 11:20 AM

I can see what they’re trying to do but it’s the way Ted has been written as so unlikeable. They always do this, anyone that needs help constantly acts like a c**t to try and make it more compelling.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd August 2018, 06:49 PM

THRILLING scenes of honey at the dentist

Posted by: Andrew. 23rd August 2018, 06:51 PM

‘It’s only a little prick’

Harsh thing to say about Billy xx

Posted by: T Boy 24th August 2018, 09:14 AM

Why are Bernadette and Patrick so concerned about Ted moving to live with his family in Australia? Why do they want to force him to live in the home he has had just over a year where his only memories are shooting bland characters and his wife dying?

Posted by: Mack. 24th August 2018, 09:24 AM

With Katie Oates taking charge, please less of Max and Rainie.

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 24th August 2018, 09:31 AM

Please kill off Max as he should already be dead!

Posted by: T Boy 24th August 2018, 09:36 AM

Rainie is one of the best parts of the show at the moment. We need more of her, not less.

Posted by: Mack. 24th August 2018, 09:47 AM

Less of the relationship between Max and Rainie, I meant to put.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 24th August 2018, 05:11 PM

Agreed!

Posted by: Maz! 24th August 2018, 06:14 PM

Anyone watching the classics on the Drama channel? They air 2 episodes a day so 1 week a day (they aired 2 a week till 1994). Love how dark and gritty it was in the beginning. Only did read today what happened to the 1st actor who played Mark Fowler .

Posted by: T Boy 24th August 2018, 08:49 PM

Is it wrong that I really hope Ted is dead?

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 24th August 2018, 08:53 PM

He won't be

They always announce departures

Posted by: Botchia 24th August 2018, 08:55 PM

No! Give the viewers what they want....

Posted by: Liаm 24th August 2018, 09:02 PM

Nah me and my mum said the same I expect he’ll be fine but won’t go to Australia and take the risk so he’ll stay, it would have been best to write him out as going with his daughter or something once Joyce died, he’s a spent character for sure.

Posted by: liamk97 24th August 2018, 10:11 PM

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a864756/eastenders-spoilers-shooting-storyline/

What is it with September and shock shootings?

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 24th August 2018, 10:15 PM

Stuart will shoot a Carter, probably Mick cos because, or get someone to shoot him and blame Mick

Either way they'll survive. In Walford you can have a double decker 20 ton bus dropped on you and go travelling the next day, be shot and be up and about in a week, but falling off a relatively low roof is a death sentence

Posted by: liamk97 25th August 2018, 10:52 PM

Watching Classic Eastenders and all I keep thinking is could someone put a pillow on Mary's baby. The noise!

Posted by: Maz! 26th August 2018, 08:19 AM

!!!
If you think that was bad, Lou Beale's screaming in bed earlier this week was much worse.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th August 2018, 01:11 AM

Ted is so tedious but the episodes this week were mostly tedious too,

Posted by: T Boy 27th August 2018, 07:35 AM

I will be so pissed off if they’ve teased Ted moving to Australia AND dying and he ends up doing neither.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th August 2018, 01:13 PM

Ted is just miserable and pointless snd I hope this is a real and permanent exit.

Posted by: lewistgreen 27th August 2018, 08:02 PM

Posted by: JAKE 27th August 2018, 09:11 PM

honey’s dentist is a treat

Posted by: Mack. 27th August 2018, 10:25 PM

Surely with this shooting, it couldn't be Phil again?

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 27th August 2018, 10:27 PM

Wha a load of ol SHITE

Posted by: JAKE 27th August 2018, 10:48 PM

it’s more of this stuart bollox isn’t it

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 27th August 2018, 10:56 PM

I called it!

Posted by: Mack. 28th August 2018, 12:13 PM

Probably be Linda who will get shot.

Posted by: T Boy 28th August 2018, 12:30 PM

I cannot with Mick feeling all guilty and making it all about him tho.

Posted by: JAKE 28th August 2018, 06:49 PM

sharon and keanu!

the sexual tension is ridiculous

a really good ee storyline for once; well written and well acted *.*

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 28th August 2018, 06:54 PM

Sharon and Keanu is RIDICULOUS

Posted by: JAKE 28th August 2018, 07:12 PM

good 2 watch tho

Posted by: T Boy 28th August 2018, 09:06 PM

I really don’t think the Sharon and Keanu affair is as ridiculous as it’s being made out, unless you view the world in a completely superficial way.

This is more than just a sexual affair, there has clearly been an emotional element to it otherwise they’d have just jumped into bed ages ago. They have clearly made a connection over the past few weeks. They’ve not decided to embark upon this purely because they’re physically attracted to one another, they’ve been confiding in each other for some time.

And I think it’s an absolute insult to Letitia Dean and older women in general to suggest that someone like Keanu would never go there. Experience is an attractive quality for some young men and Letitia looks pretty damn good for a woman of 50.

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 28th August 2018, 09:24 PM

She looks atrocious!! Seriously, check Twitter for what people are saying about the situation. She does not look good.

Posted by: JAKE 28th August 2018, 10:55 PM

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Posted by: JAKE 28th August 2018, 10:56 PM

i can’t defend my opinion so go look at trolls cuss a woman down about her age and situation on the internet

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 28th August 2018, 11:17 PM

I'm sorry, dress it up all you want but it is totally unrealistic and you know it.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 28th August 2018, 11:21 PM

do you enjoy making fun of women's looks?

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 28th August 2018, 11:24 PM

So would you be saying it's realistic if Ian Beale even got with Mel or got with Louise? Of course you wouldn't.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 28th August 2018, 11:32 PM

Louise is 16 so yes that would be unrealistic. And I always thought Mel and Ian was implausible because they are too different not because she's better looking.

Posted by: Liаm 28th August 2018, 11:34 PM

Ian and Mel are roughly similar ages I assume, Ian maybe 5-10 years older but even 10 years older when you're on your 40s and 50s really isn't much. It would be weird because I agree they just are way too different but it wouldn't be gross and icky in the same way you are suggesting with a 16 year old.

You go on about sexism in the show with Max yet here you are slagging a woman off for her appearance anytime she appears on screen...

Posted by: JAKE 28th August 2018, 11:50 PM

i’m sorry but it’s totally realistic that older women get bored in loveless relationships

it works from the other side too; it’s just refreshing to see it more from a woman’s perspective

letitia looks CRACKING

Posted by: Liаm 28th August 2018, 11:59 PM

It's great to have an affair where you actually care and want to see what happens, there's actually some chemistry and it's a really interesting dynamic. Keanu seems to have a thing for older women given his escorting dalliance, and Sharon gets nothing from Phil and she's gonna get bored and risk a bit of fun. A lot of the time they just chuck together random characters who don't fit because there's nothing else for them and it's tedious but this just works so well for various reasons.

Posted by: JAKE 29th August 2018, 12:17 AM

do you think it’s random between them?

i’m the first to call ee out but this a storyline they’ve done properly...

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 29th August 2018, 12:28 AM

Thought she was at least 18 as that actress is clearly in her 20s - same as Bernadette

Yes, it's also unrealistic that Max Branning gets woman after woman whilst looking like an escaped baked bean that grew arms and legs after being left under the fridge for too long.

Sharon is literally OLDER THAN HIS MUM. The only interactions they had before this atrocious storyline was her shouting at him in her weird campy overdramatic way. He hated being an escort and DIDN'T feel attracted to older women. This was a huge part of the storyline! Also Sharon is his boss' wife. That boss is also a gangster. It just beggars belief. That's before even taking into account anything else.

Posted by: Liаm 29th August 2018, 12:30 AM

No, other affairs are I mean, I think it makes sense and it's great to see compared to other affairs!

Posted by: Andrew. 29th August 2018, 12:45 AM

Sharon’s faces at Keanu are literally this

Posted by: T Boy 29th August 2018, 07:50 AM

I’m clearly not just going to read Twitter, mostly vile people fueling hate so no thanks.

I feel very sorry for the average 50 year old woman if you think Sharon looks atrocious. She looks great regardless of her age and to be honest I’m not sure what it is about her that has you coming out with words like atrocious. Letitia Dean has struggled with her looks for most of her adult life due to people like you constantly commenting on them like this. She’s in a place where she’s finally comfortable in her own skin but you’re relentless as ever.

As for other matches you’ve mentioned, obviously Louise is too young but I wouldn’t believe Mel with Ian because of their history. They’ve been there, Mel was never interested and it was a horrific lie that got them married. Why would she go back after that?

Again, for someone who claims to be the feminist leader of the site, you’re being awfully shallow and superficial over this storyline. We are yet to see any on screen evidence that Keanu is as shallow as you clearly are. We have, however, seen that he and Sharon have chemistry. You’ve also completely ignored the emotional affair component. They haven’t done anything physical yet but they are already having an affair. Relationships are based on more than just sex. This is something EE are actually getting right for a change.

You can spout your bile and try to drag a 50 year old woman you don’t know but you can’t stop the rest of us enjoying what is easily the best storyline on the show at the moment.

Posted by: T Boy 29th August 2018, 09:16 AM

I just literally SCREAMED

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 29th August 2018, 10:14 AM

You seem to mistake feminism for something it isn't. It is about equality. I say same things about her as I do about Phil and Max Branning and Ian Beale. So please.

I prefer my soaps with some realism thanks.

Posted by: T Boy 29th August 2018, 10:25 AM

Ok, so it’s about equality. You just treat all these people you don’t know with complete contempt based on their looks, hey, as long as it’s equal discrimination, who cares?

Nice to see you not bother to counter any other points made.

As for wanting realism, the whole point of soaps is that they’re realistic but with some escapism. Hasn’t EE been trying realism the last few years? Wasn’t that the excuse for the bins, Denise’s pasta/GCSE, samosas and Bernadette learning chess? That was hardly riveting viewing.

Sharon and Keanu is classic soap and Letitia Dean excels at this kind of thing. If you’re not a fan, fine, but please refrain from being personal about the actors.

Posted by: Andrew. 30th August 2018, 06:58 PM

The episode ending with Sharon pondering over a text message two nights in a row Not that I’m complaining, loving this storyline. Patrick telling Bernie to F off as well *.*

Posted by: T Boy 30th August 2018, 09:07 PM

‘Have you done my mum yet?’

Patrick channeling me when telling Bernie where to go.

Jean is so f***ing amazing. I can’t believe we almost went 5 years without her as a regular. If they continue to utilise her properly, Gillian Wright may never leave again.

I am loving the Sheanu storyline.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 30th August 2018, 10:25 PM

More Bernie and Sharon less slater bollocks pls

Posted by: Shandy Leer 30th August 2018, 10:25 PM

except Jean. Jean deserves better

Posted by: liamk97 30th August 2018, 11:38 PM

Classic Eastenders duff duffs just get stranger and stranger. The latest episode I just watched finished with Pete and Kathy watching a porno!

Posted by: T Boy 31st August 2018, 06:15 AM

I think they were attempting to bring this back with pasta last year.

I’ve just started watching the classic episodes, really enjoying them so far.

Posted by: Maz! 31st August 2018, 09:13 AM

Think we saw a bit of Julia's theme for the first time in classic EE with the osmans and the dead of baby hassan.

Posted by: Mack. 31st August 2018, 11:37 AM

It's surely inevitable Billy and Honey get back together soon, getting bad vibes from Adam.

Posted by: JAKE 31st August 2018, 07:06 PM

KNOCK KNOCK KNOCKIN ON TED’S DOOR

(for like the 18th different episode)

Posted by: Andrew. 31st August 2018, 07:28 PM

GET IT SHARON *.*

Stuart is vile, that scene at the end was the hammiest thing ever Praying he gets shot but I can’t see it.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 31st August 2018, 07:47 PM

Sharon was sublime tonight.

Posted by: T Boy 31st August 2018, 09:14 PM

My goodness, I didn’t even mind the Carters/Stuart tonight.

This week has been pretty good fair play.

Posted by: T Boy 2nd September 2018, 08:42 PM

Watching classic EE, Ethel is such an irreplaceable character.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd September 2018, 04:19 PM

Ethel is probably my fave EastEnders character ever.

Posted by: Andrew. 3rd September 2018, 07:18 PM

Shirtless Mick and Sheanu, what’ve we done to deserve this *.*

Posted by: JosephAvery 3rd September 2018, 07:30 PM

The tension actually built really well in that episode, a job well done on that part, but EVERYTHING about Stuart cringes me out. Awful character played by an awful actor. Really hoping this is the end of him.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd September 2018, 09:09 PM

I honestly had forgotten that Louise even existed.

I still found the majority of the Carter stuff crap. I think it’s totally that random Dylan the got shot or he shot Stuart. Mick simply cannot get shot twice in one year and survive both and I just can’t see it being any of the others.

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 3rd September 2018, 09:22 PM

This!

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 3rd September 2018, 09:32 PM

THEY'RE MAKIN SHARON INTO THE NEW PAAAH!!

SHE JUST SAID, GO ON THEN, CHOP CHOP, JUST LIKE PAT ALWAYS USED TO SAY!!

Also how did Stuart have their LANDLINE AND MOBILE NUMBERS?! No one uses landlines!

THOSE MICK PUNCHES THOUGH!!

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd September 2018, 10:03 PM

I don't think its any of the Carters, hoping the other guy fired the gun at Stuart, he seem to be hiding something in that bag.

Posted by: Andrew. 4th September 2018, 06:40 PM

Halfway is really hot, I never even noticed until tonight

He’s alive, hooray x

Posted by: Liаm 4th September 2018, 06:47 PM

Couldn't the bullet just ricochet off the wall and kill Mick and Stuart and Whitney

Posted by: Liаm 4th September 2018, 06:52 PM

Omg Mel eviscerating Jack made me howl

Posted by: Andrew. 4th September 2018, 06:55 PM

Stuart has 1000 lives ffs

I can’t decide between Linda or Whitney as to who did it, I know Danny Dyer is going on a break so this could be the trigger

Posted by: Botchia 4th September 2018, 07:51 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if Tina did it and Linda is covering it up for her

But there's still so many questions. What did Denny have to do with anything? What's going on with Dylan?

Posted by: T Boy 4th September 2018, 09:03 PM

I kinda think Linda did do it. She was the only one that looked particularly concerned about hiding the weapon, we don’t even know if anyone else knew where it was. I feel we kind of saw Mick and Tina’s rage at Stuart coming out with Mick smothering him and Tina not calling for the ambulance. Whitney was pretty shifty but I think she was just worried Halfway had done it. Halfway and Shirley I’d say definitely had no involvement.

As for Dylan, he’s clearly going to be a scapegoat for whoever did do it.

Cracking episode though.

Posted by: liamk97 4th September 2018, 10:09 PM

Can't say I care. At all.

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 4th September 2018, 10:10 PM

Whitney survived a 20 ton bus being lifted onto her, crushing her, and then dropped on her. Oh and then went travelling the next day. She is Supergirl! A lil bullet won't do it.

Posted by: Liаm 4th September 2018, 10:18 PM

Same, they tried to build it up as such a tense event but when you just cannot bring yourself to care a jot it's just boring. Any of those involved bar Shirley could've died without me caring at all. Halfway is harmless and nice enough, Linda is good by herself, but meh.


True

Posted by: liamk97 4th September 2018, 10:24 PM

Agreed. Night time scenes are usually great too but, as you say, all the suspense and atmosphere in the world can't polish this turd of a storyline with characters you don't feel sympathetic towards anymore.

The only bit tonight I enjoyed tonight was Mel's rant to Jack, but even that was spoiled when she changed her mind and agreed to marry him, which was so contrived to introduce Ray.

Posted by: liamk97 5th September 2018, 01:21 PM

I love how there's a gunshot in The Vic and even the dog is sound asleep!

Posted by: Mart!n 5th September 2018, 01:51 PM

I actually saw that coming, I knew Ray was going to be introduced into EE and I thought to myself - this is the scene with Ray's first appearance.

The whole gunshot thing was a bit of a damp squib, I still think Dylan did it, as he wouldn't let go of that bag he had with him.

Posted by: Botchia 5th September 2018, 07:46 PM

Maybe it's just because it's been SO poor, but last night was the best in months for me.

I expect whatever happens Mick will take the fall for it since Danny Dyer's got his break coming up!

Posted by: Botchia 6th September 2018, 07:05 PM

Well at least half of that is correct so far ;o

Posted by: T Boy 6th September 2018, 08:48 PM

I have a feeling now it was Whitney. I think it can only be her or Tina now and I could see Mick taking the fall for either of them which could account for Danny Dyer’s expected time off.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 6th September 2018, 09:47 PM

Yeah I think it was Tina tbh just have a feeling

Posted by: liamk97 6th September 2018, 10:10 PM

Confirmed today that Alfie will be returning, even though we all knew he would be. http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a865585/eastenders-spoilers-alfie-moon-shane-richie-return/

Posted by: pippa 7th September 2018, 02:00 PM

More bad news, that returnee could stay away forever and i would not be overly disappointed but it was obvious it was coming.

Posted by: Liаm 7th September 2018, 07:05 PM

Ray is kinda daddy but I'm already bored of the inevitable charming guy turns into villain who everyone thinks is nice bc he's attractive and friendly Like is this not just gonna be the attractive version of Aiden?


And Halfway without his stupid hat on

Posted by: Botchia 7th September 2018, 08:45 PM

Jack being given his marching orders already *.*

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th September 2018, 06:34 PM

Jack has turned into a very not needed character.

Posted by: T Boy 9th September 2018, 06:58 PM

I was actually supporting Jack and Mel (despite not really forgiving Jack for how awful he was to Roxy) but then he ruined it by proposing after 2 seconds. I loved Mel telling it like it is but then she went and changed her mind. It’s like he’s bored so he has to get married.

They’ll probably be back together by Christmas tho as we already know Ray will be bad news.

Posted by: liamk97 10th September 2018, 07:19 PM

Please tell me Ritchie is coming back! *.*

Posted by: Botchia 10th September 2018, 08:18 PM

I got so excited but no appearance in that ep </3

Posted by: T Boy 10th September 2018, 09:28 PM

They can’t just tease us with Sia!

Posted by: liamk97 10th September 2018, 09:37 PM

According to Wiki it's nearly been 2 years since we last saw her!

Posted by: T Boy 10th September 2018, 09:40 PM

The last time I properly remember her being there, she was in scenes with Marsden and Keeble and I was in Heaven.

Posted by: T Boy 11th September 2018, 09:18 PM

I’m living for Mel’s utter disdain for almost every other character. Queen *.*

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th September 2018, 01:34 AM

I do like mel and she is a character that has potential to be more, I'm really Kate oates really works on character development and in a way I'm happy she isn't waving the axe although bernies Mr Murray !! could easily bog off and halfway I wouldn't miss either.

Posted by: pippa 13th September 2018, 07:08 PM

There are a few that would not be missed if axed but in large i agree she should maximize the cast she has on hand.

Posted by: T Boy 13th September 2018, 09:21 PM

I had to lol at Mick trying to guilt anyone who thought he’d tried to kill a man. Yeah, maybe you didn’t shoot him. But you did try to smother him.

Posted by: Mack. 13th September 2018, 09:46 PM

Rita Simons has admitted she's desperate to return but Kate Oates has ruled it out apparently.

Posted by: HarryEzra 13th September 2018, 09:50 PM

FFS I hate the producer that killed them off :/

Posted by: T Boy 15th September 2018, 09:40 AM

YAS Amy get that duff duff!

Ideally the only way I can forgive killing Roxy off is if they fully invest in Amy and make her a true icon.

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 15th September 2018, 11:29 AM

Me too!

And on her wedding day too. They both have KIDS. They should have killed off Jack and Max if they wanted a double death.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th September 2018, 10:26 PM

It was such a crazy idea as it in no way benefited the show.I cant see how they ever thought it was a good idea.

Posted by: Botchia 16th September 2018, 01:52 PM

I think it was fine killing off Roxy but killing Ronnie too was a step too far! At least Roxy's death being drugs related would have fitted with the preceding storyline that had been running for her most of the year. But Ronnie too was just so random and out of nowhere and in no way benefitted the show (whether you liked her or not). Roxy was dispensable but Ronnie was too big of a character and draw to write out for good.

Posted by: Liаm 16th September 2018, 02:04 PM

Agreed, I did like Roxy but it would have been enough of a big shock storyline if she died alone (and would have made more sense). It was depressing and short sighted to kill them both off, it made a huge impact at the time and was a huge episode but a couple of days after it was pretty much all done. What was wrong with just Roxy dying, Ronnie deciding one too many bad things had happened and going to wherever it was with Jack? That would have got rid of her if the producer was THAT set on it, but another producer still has the chance to bring her back for the latest Mitchell crisis or whatever. I suppose it fit Ronnie's whole tragic heroine arc that she got dragged down too on her wedding day of all days and she could only have her happy ending for a few hours but ughhh

Posted by: T Boy 16th September 2018, 02:21 PM

I actually felt Roxy had more to give and Ronnie was pretty much spent. Although both could easily have just left and not died. Ronnie could have gone for a longer stretch in prison once he crimes caught up with her and Roxy could have left to get herself sorted out. Jack could still have Amy and even Matthew if Ronnie were still alive and both would have been able to return. Personally I’d like to have seen Roxy without Ronnie again minus the Alfie affair.

Deaths have been so shit recently if you consider that Steven and Abi were also needlessly killed. I know they’ve hatched a storyline from Abi’s death but Lauren really was the spent character out of those sisters.

As I said, if they can do something good with Amy, the Mitchell deaths might be worth it in the long run, but I won’t hold my breath.

Posted by: YOUSHALLNOTPEEN! 16th September 2018, 02:44 PM

Ronnie was an excellent villain. If Roxie had died they could have had a longer and bigger reaction with Ronnie around. They ruined it.

Posted by: Shandy Leer 18th September 2018, 12:28 PM

Keanu tho fuuuuck

Posted by: Mack. 18th September 2018, 12:57 PM

Mick thought Stuart would tell the truth ? Haha, funny.

Posted by: Mack. 18th September 2018, 03:44 PM

Ruby returning, what do you make of it?

Posted by: T Boy 18th September 2018, 05:57 PM

They’re not making Mick look particularly bright, are they? I feel like we’re supposed to hate the detective but I just end up hating Mick for acting like a twat, same as he does to doctors/nurses when they’re just doing their job.

Sharon and Keanu still the best thing in the show right now.

Posted by: liamk97 18th September 2018, 06:08 PM

Keanu in his boxers for the first 5 minutes for Scene of the Year.

Posted by: Liаm 18th September 2018, 06:53 PM

Omg this

There's more to a few minutes of his arse than this whole Stuart storyline tbh *.*

Posted by: Andrew. 18th September 2018, 07:00 PM

Mick almost naked a few weeks ago as well, what have I done to deserve this? *.*

Posted by: JosephAvery 18th September 2018, 07:04 PM

Posted by: Andrew. 18th September 2018, 07:13 PM

More like I've been on my


and done something
xx

Posted by: T Boy 19th September 2018, 06:57 PM

How thick are the Carter clan? How could Stuart shoot himself, hide the gun under the bar and drag himself to the iamspamspamamiwithout bleeding on anything?

This will probably be the solution though

Posted by: pippa 19th September 2018, 08:44 PM

I hope this storyline ends very soon.
While the storyline was meant to be about Tina, she is totally sidelined in it.

Posted by: Andrew. 20th September 2018, 06:38 PM

That idiotic detective keeps reminding me of Piers Morgan someone back me up

Posted by: Liаm 20th September 2018, 06:56 PM

Well Hayley's mum was a DELIGHT....

Posted by: Andrew. 20th September 2018, 06:59 PM

I figured out where I remember her from, she was the meals on wheels lady in Miranda Lovely viewing x

Posted by: RosaParksMyCar 21st September 2018, 07:15 PM

This wasn't total horseshit tonight

Posted by: RosaParksMyCar 21st September 2018, 07:16 PM

Sharon stole the show ofc

Posted by: T Boy 21st September 2018, 09:26 PM

Sia’s no nonsense attitude is the best thing about this Carter storyline.

Posted by: Venice Botch 21st September 2018, 09:27 PM

Sia's return *.* Long overdue

Posted by: Andrew. 21st September 2018, 09:30 PM

I’m enjoying it atm. Mainly for shirtless Keanu every night but never mind x

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 23rd September 2018, 05:13 PM

I liked Hayleys mum, i wouldnt mind her coming back.

Posted by: Liаm 24th September 2018, 07:32 PM

Mick's grey bottoms/snail trail flash is giving me feelings, but that's the one positive in this whole terrible storyline. The prison was good when it was Shirley but I just don't care about Mick at all or any of this Stuart crap.

Posted by: RosaParksMyCar 24th September 2018, 07:40 PM

the highlight was Sonias trumpet

Posted by: Venice Botch 24th September 2018, 09:01 PM

Sonia's trumpet *.*

The Stuart storyline is going really bad again after a bearable couple of weeks. I really don't want to see Mick in prison, thank you. Let him suffer off screen.

Posted by: T Boy 24th September 2018, 09:30 PM

Not Mick being sent to the hammiest and cringiest prison in existence.

I really don’t like that the p**** angle is back. It’s a personal problem for me, someone I once counted as a friend is currently serving time for that and I’d rather not be reminded of that.

Jamie and the trumpet, the Sonia nostalgia was on point.

Posted by: Andrew. 25th September 2018, 03:44 PM

I’m just catching up on yesterday’s and Bex’s bacon sandwich is randomly making me scream

Posted by: liamk97 25th September 2018, 09:11 PM

Actually not finding the Mick on remand stuff totally unbearable! Also, his cellmate seems to have a voice hybrid of Frank Butcher and Beppe di Marco.

Posted by: Mack. 26th September 2018, 03:19 PM

Jake Wood set to take another break from EastEnders.

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a867065/eastenders-jake-wood-max-branning-break-boxing-podcast/

Posted by: Mariner's Crotch 26th September 2018, 03:26 PM

Max Branniny should be DEAD and utterly DESPISED

Wish the producers didn't fancy him so much

Posted by: Mack. 26th September 2018, 03:46 PM

Who was that blonde woman who went to see Mick in prison yesterday, name has been bugging me.

Posted by: T Boy 26th September 2018, 04:49 PM

Jake Wood should probably just leave for good if he’s going to keep taking breaks.

NuBianca

Posted by: Mack. 26th September 2018, 07:06 PM

Found it. It was Tessa, a one-off character or not?

Posted by: Slick 27th September 2018, 09:05 PM

I was actually really enjoying the whole 'Stuart being shot' storyline but I don't give a shit about Mick in a bad prison parody.

Posted by: T Boy 28th September 2018, 03:54 PM

The prison scenes are so bad.

Posted by: Mariner's Crotch 28th September 2018, 03:56 PM

This

It really is the hammiest, cheesiest prison ever and Mick just happened to end up there

Posted by: Liаm 28th September 2018, 07:30 PM

That was one of the worst episodes in a long time, f*** me

Posted by: T Boy 28th September 2018, 09:51 PM

That was so shit. It’s almost like Danny Dyer is writing it himself.

Posted by: liamk97 29th September 2018, 12:40 AM

Lorraine Newman has written an episode due to air in a couple of weeks time!

Posted by: T Boy 29th September 2018, 09:07 AM

Can’t believe Stuart shot himself either. It’s made those great episodes earlier in the month feel hollow in hindsight. I totally thought it was getting excited by then but now it’s gone into awful tv mode again.

Posted by: liamk97 30th September 2018, 08:07 PM

Danny Dyer does his best Lennie from Of Mice and Men impression and Sonia brings back Abi's post-it note-gate. The joy.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th September 2018, 08:58 PM

Fairly boring week all round, far far to much of the Carters.

Posted by: T Boy 1st October 2018, 08:51 PM

Sia absolutely slaying with hard truths.

Why is Linda Henry still in this? She isn’t utilised as all and has more to give than just being Mick Carter’s fan club.

Posted by: Mart!n 1st October 2018, 09:12 PM

I must admit this has got a bit tiresome lately, I just think the Carters are dragging the show down (Mick in jail story is just dragging), they are in it every week, I just wish they had less airtime. Its about time they move on, and take Max Branning with them. The show just needs a new family I think to inject more life into it.

Posted by: liamk97 3rd October 2018, 01:04 PM

Okay so the dialogue between Mel and Sharon in the club was fantastic.

"...and as sour faced as she is, she doesn't look like she's grieving"

"Sharon's married to Phil; she doesn't do romance"

"careful, we've been talking longer than she's been married"

Posted by: HeadlessJockey 3rd October 2018, 02:42 PM

Last night's episode was pitiful. What was that fight about at the end?

Posted by: T Boy 3rd October 2018, 07:12 PM

I only hate the Carter story atm. It’s awful.

I mean I’m rooting for Linda giving up on Mick, like she should have done 14 months ago when he was ‘in love’ with Whitney. But it won’t last and it’s just a plot device for when Mick is proved innocent, he can mope about how his wife should have stuck by him. Why should she though? He always keeps secrets from her and always chooses the stupid thing to do.

I wish there was some way it could turn out he really did it but no. Stuart shooting himself barely makes any sense.

I don’t think I’ve despised a soap character like this since Didge In Neighbours.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 3rd October 2018, 08:11 PM

Oh no

You're right

That explains the contrived argument!! He will get so much screen time mopin about!!

Posted by: liamk97 3rd October 2018, 10:03 PM

I actually thought Tuesday's episode was really good. Always liked Mel and Hunter as characters and now they actually have something of purpose to do now that Ray is on the scene, who I find an intriguing character unlike the cartoons Stuart and Aidan were/are. Sharon and Keanu's affair is so much more character driven than anything Sharon has been involved in since her 2012 return; the feelings and anxieties they share feel genuine and I can share sympathy with both of them.

I also really liked the scene, not necessarily because of its contents, where Jagger and his mate were talking, then Ray walked into scene and shared a scene with what's-his-face, then they walked passed Shirley who was in her own thoughts having a cig outside The Vic. It just felt like you were actually watching life happening rather than here's one scene with a group of characters, now we're switching to a new scene, new environment, with a different group of characters.

Posted by: RosaParksMyCar 4th October 2018, 06:33 PM

Sharon is just the gift that keeps on giving

Posted by: RosaParksMyCar 5th October 2018, 07:17 PM

I'LL OPEN UP FOR YA

Posted by: T Boy 6th October 2018, 07:34 AM

I always hate this Sharon comparison but this made me LOL

Posted by: RosaParksMyCar 6th October 2018, 12:53 PM

both are too good for him

Posted by: T Boy 6th October 2018, 02:45 PM

I really hope the Keanu storyline is the end of Sharon and Phil forever.

Posted by: liamk97 6th October 2018, 02:52 PM

I can't see how Sharon and Phil can come back from this. I don't see Sheanu lasting but it has shown Sharon what it feels like to be genuinely wanted and treated well, as well as showing her how she's changed whilst being with Phil. The Sharon of old wouldn't stand by Phil's dodgy dealings and nasty behaviour.

Hoping Kate Oates can continue Sharon on this journey and make her a strong character again.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th October 2018, 04:45 PM

Ya shaeon needs to be away from Phil and get her feistyness back.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 6th October 2018, 04:54 PM

Omg Sharon is the spitting image!!

Posted by: T Boy 6th October 2018, 05:35 PM

Your constant Sharon put downs are almost as boring as any chess scene this year.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 6th October 2018, 08:30 PM

YOU SHARED THE MISS PIGGY COMPARISON!!

And you were spot on btw! That's what we all say whenever she appears on screen

Posted by: T Boy 7th October 2018, 06:28 AM

I did, the whole picture was amusing despite me actually saying that I hate the Sharon comparison. But of course, you just zeroed in on her because it seems to be a hobby of yours to take down the looks of a 50 year old woman. I mean you could have just posted a at the picture but instead you went full in on Letitia Dean AGAIN.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 7th October 2018, 10:51 AM

YOU POSTED THE COMPARISON!!! AND LAUGHED!! You can try and avoid blame by sayin ooh hate this compa4ison. Um then WHY POST IT??? You brought it up.

Posted by: T Boy 7th October 2018, 11:23 AM

Because I did find it funny despite my hatred of the comparison. I didn’t go in and say ‘omg Sharon looks exactly like that!!!1!1’

Stop making it about me.

Posted by: T Boy 8th October 2018, 09:01 PM

Quite unrealistic for Martin to think prospect of Sonia might entice Stacey to his reunion.

What a shame Nicki DiMarco and Asif Malik couldn’t make it.

Posted by: liamk97 9th October 2018, 08:39 PM

Literally listened to The Kick Inside just before watching tonight's episode where it was referred to.

Good episode! I liked that it followed just one storyline and looked at it from different perspectives. The Stacey/Ruby scenes at the iamspamspamamitable were very understated and felt real as a result.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 9th October 2018, 09:10 PM

I haven't watched for a while

From which episode do I have to start watching for Ruby Allen's entrance and on?

Posted by: T Boy 13th October 2018, 09:22 AM

I think this rape stuff has been well done but the problem is the setup. Ruby literally just turned up the other week and was little more than an extra. This is a Girls we saw for 18 months over a decade ago. She returns without a bang and after less than 20 minutes of screen time, she’s part of this massive story. We also only just met Martin’s mates and have less attachment to them than we do with Ruby. I think we should have gotten a few weeks to know all these characters first before this storyline began.

Posted by: liamk97 13th October 2018, 09:30 AM

I wonder if that's part of the point. It's a story of consent and attitudes towards rape and that's been show through Martin and Stacey, characters we do know and care about. The fact the audience barely knows Ruby or Martin's mates, and indeed Stacey and Martin barely know them after not seeing them for over 10 years (15+ in Martin's case), seems to reflect the way we often hear about rape; it appears in the news all of a sudden and we have no knowledges of either party's side of the issue other than what's presented to us. That does make Ruby little more than a plot device and I don't think this set up is perfect, but that's the reasoning I came to.

Posted by: T Boy 13th October 2018, 09:39 AM

I had thought about that but then it does make it feel like this storyline is plot driven rather than character driven. Ruby, despite her history, is barely being used as a character in her own right but rather a plot device to cause tension between Martin and Stacey. I do think that the man involved should have been someone we know like Asif Malik (would it have been that difficult to get him back?) so that the story could be the two sided one they’re going for. As is, we as an audience have no doubt Ruby was raped because we know her as a character and this Ross in particular is such a shifty knobhead that it’s hard to sympathise with Martin in this situation. If it was someone we’d actually seen on screen with Martin years ago that just returned, it would be easier for the audience to take his views into account.

Posted by: The Feline Lorde 13th October 2018, 10:27 AM

I agree it should've been a character we actually know - dare I say even someone like Kush? The fact we don't know these guys and they're pretty unlikeable in their only episode on screen makes it all just feel very one sided when I think the point was to try and see both sides of the consent issue?

Posted by: liamk97 15th October 2018, 03:54 PM

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a868471/eastenders-spoilers-mick-carter-stuart-highway-revenge/

WHY? Mick is going through hell in prison for a crime he didn't commit... yet as soon as he's out, he risks going back by actually doing what he was sent to prison for? More stupid Mick being stupid, and this is likely our Christmas week.

Posted by: T Boy 15th October 2018, 08:26 PM

It’s almost like Danny Dyer is writing the scripts now.

Posted by: T Boy 15th October 2018, 09:34 PM

Dot and Mariam returning in the same episode was giving me life.

Loved Kim telling Keanu she might need another ride *.*

Posted by: T Boy 16th October 2018, 08:59 PM

Sharon referencing the time Sonia soaked her *.*

Tbh as if anyone hasn’t figured Sheanu out yet. If they’re no shagging, they’re standing around chatting in broad daylight. Often in her house.

I loved Stacey’s scenes tonight. Brilliant writing and acting.

Posted by: Pinhead 16th October 2018, 09:12 PM

I'm glad they are straying away from the Carters at the moment, as I'm sick to death of their long winded storyline, got a funny feeling that story comes to a conclusion round about Christmas and the new year, when we usually see someone going out with a sudden death.

Seeing Dot back felt next year could be her last year in Eastenders, I know we don't see much of her but it seems to be heading that way given her storyline of her trip to the Doctor.

Posted by: HannibalLetcher 16th October 2018, 10:34 PM

So Jean sees a photo of Kat and Alfie with their kids in January and from that she guesses the truth?

Posted by: The Feline Lorde 16th October 2018, 10:44 PM

It did feel like quite a jump from a simple mention of Spain It could've been any random guy in Spain....

Posted by: Andrew. 16th October 2018, 10:53 PM

Omg ikr, the way she acted like it was a certainty as well

Posted by: liamk97 16th October 2018, 11:39 PM

Mariam could be a great supporting character if she didn't feature so sporadically and the scenes she did feature in were like those with Hayley tonight and not in comedy scenes with Masood. I'm guessing the actress may have taken time out for reasons unknown to us so hopefully she'll appear a bit more regularly from now on.

I had a suspicion tonight that Jagger was the one who discovered Sharon and Keanu as he either directly or indirectly has beef with them, but then again Sharon wouldn't have his number.

Eastenders 2018 has focused very heavily on the relationship between Jean and Hayley but I'm hoping Jean's discovery makes her remember her relationship with Kat.

Scene in the club was great. I quite liked that the writing didn't shy away from referring to Stacey killing Archie. Obviously she's full of regret over what she did and we can sympathise with her character, but the show shouldn't pretend it never happened.

Posted by: liamk97 18th October 2018, 11:48 PM

A decent episode! I enjoyed Jean's outburst at Hayley after her suspicions were confirmed. Felt like a very true reaction, knowing how much effort she has put into helping Hayley and knowing the relationship she has with Kat. I guess the severity of Hayley's vulnerable state is a genuine reason for Jean not telling Kat the truth, which I assume she won't.

Posted by: T Boy 19th October 2018, 04:21 PM

Omg this. Gillian Wright has been carrying the show at times this year and she was outstanding last night. I’ve really enjoyed the last few episodes. I’m not even joking, I feel that the standard is usually good until we get the Carters.

Posted by: gavindeejay 19th October 2018, 09:26 PM

Poor Dr Legg

Posted by: liamk97 19th October 2018, 10:14 PM

Am I the only who thought it was Lauren Harries that Robbie was flirting with?

Was sad that Sharon left the pub by the time Dr Legg arrived, but there was something special and poignant about him and Martin shaking hands.

I'm glad Jessie Wallace got more to do tonight; hoping she has a more prominent role in the run up to Christmas, at which time I assume will be the reveal. They usually have the big names at the forefront of Christmas.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 20th October 2018, 10:43 AM

Who the hell is Doctor Leg? EE is awful with making up names

But how good is this show without the Carters?! Axe them NOW. THEY are what is bringing it down. I only fastforwarded Dot's parts, as she is horrendously boring. Ruby story was interesting, don't k ow who to believe. The Slaters as always were INCREDIBLE. It was excellent.

The only bit was when Hayley hid from Kath by pressing against the wall and Kat didn't't notice her right there!!

I bet awful Alfie comes back at Christmas and it all comes out then, with Kat working it out from the awkward interactions between him, Jean, the babby and Hayley.

In reality she would have aborted that baby, not given birth to thr son of her cousin's husband!!

Posted by: T Boy 20th October 2018, 11:29 AM

You think Dot is boring and you don’t know who Dr Legg is????

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 20th October 2018, 11:56 AM

She is horrendous. I always skip her scenes.

Posted by: T Boy 20th October 2018, 12:27 PM

Dot is a reason to watch.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 20th October 2018, 01:01 PM

Also Jeanne was amazing! As was Kat and Hayley.

She put 2 and 2 together due to how worried Hayley was when Alfie phoned Kat, how she got pregnant there and lied about the dad being in UK, and how cagey she was over the dad.

Keanu and Sharon - "it has to be someone we know"
"We don't need Inspector Morse to work that one out"!!

It has to be someone who um CARES, likes Phil, and knows them. Not just a neighbour. It could be Sia, one of the kids or an unintroduced character from the past.

Posted by: Liаm 20th October 2018, 03:44 PM

Jean and Hayley are the best thing about this show atm! For a new-ish character, Hayley is so likeable and you actually care about and root for her. They've done quite well and making you feel sorry for her and want better for her without forcing it *too* much or just making her an total black hole of misery and hopelessness, whilst it's of course a soapy plot that she's had a terrible life and got pregnant by her cousin's husband but she just feels so real.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 21st October 2018, 11:50 AM

Agreed with all of this 100%

I've said since Kat came back the Slaters were the best thing in the show by a MILE

Posted by: T Boy 21st October 2018, 04:47 PM

I wouldn’t say by a mile. There are plenty of other great characters around-Sheanu, Kim/Denise, Honey, Martin, Mel, Dot, The Taylors, Kush/Carmel, Rainie.

In fact I’d go as far to say that the only character that really annoys me right now is Mick Carter.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 21st October 2018, 05:14 PM

Axe the Carters!

Posted by: T Boy 21st October 2018, 05:16 PM

Shirley can stay though.

Posted by: ¡Michael Myers! 21st October 2018, 05:35 PM

Shirley with a Ruby appearance for Nancy at some point

Posted by: liamk97 21st October 2018, 07:12 PM

Not sure I completely agree. I think there have been times where we get the same sort of scenes repeated and it's felt like the show has told us how to feel about Hayley rather than allowing us to make up her own minds. On the whole though, I think it has been done well and I like Hayley; she feels like the sort of person you'd know in real life. Things seem to be getting somewhere now and the lingering knowledge of how powerful the fallout of when Kat finds out Alfie is the father potentially could be is definitely getting me excited.

Posted by: pippa 22nd October 2018, 03:53 PM

The less the Carters are on the better the episodes have been lately.
I do believe there is a place for the Carters in the show but they just need to be more level with the airtime.
Mick and Linda are far more interesting to watch when they are happy and dealing with family issues not the constant misery that has gone on of late.

Posted by: liamk97 22nd October 2018, 07:33 PM

Slay, Kat! *.*

Posted by: T Boy 22nd October 2018, 10:03 PM

Hayley has the most horrific shouting voice ever.

Posted by: HannibalLetcher 22nd October 2018, 10:07 PM

Apparently meant to be a major character returning at Christmas.