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It really does feel like we are at a turning point ó not just with how the government is acting ó but with shifting public opinion, the constant stream of scandals/bad news and UK journalism waking up.

I'm sure the government are banking on this all disappearing, especially as they have four years until the next election, but there is definitely potential here for another Black Wednesday.




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QUOTE(Rooney @ May 28 2020, 06:05 PM) *
Awful. Ignored every question about Cummings then said we can all have a family BBQ in the garden, except you then can't use the toilet and have to wipe everything down. Are most people going to follow that? Are they hell. It's so obvious that we are neither here nor there with the R rate. I agree we have to get the economy back up and running, but they have said there will be local lockdowns..


Had my niece's family in the garden yesterday with 5-year-old and the dog. My parents loved seeing them, it cheered my mum up no end sitting in a wheelchair in the conservatory while they were 2m away and chatting happily for her to listen to (she can't talk). We have a downstairs toilet which we don't use, right by the front door, for visitors with sink and soap, and I clean it and put fresh towels in after visitors have gone, and it's closed off from the rest of the house by another door. When they've gone, leave it a couple of days then go in and clean it again.

Piece of piss. Johnson can go f*** himself, I'll decide what's best for my family we all know where we've been and are all at risk, his advice on anything is worthless. We have the biggest death rate in the world. Thanks to him and Herd Cummingsimmunity.
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Iím in Wales so restrictions arenít even as loose as England but Iím actually having family in my garden tomorrow. Itís my brotherís birthday so Iím having him and our mum and dad round for an hour for tea and cake. My mum is sorting the tea and cake so that weíre socially distant, Iím going to set the garden up for social distance and itíll be for less than an hour. Itís army house because my parents have a dog and you canít access my brotherís garden without entering his house. This will be the first time Iíve seen any family in person for 10 weeks. I was nervous about breaking the rules but as long as weíre safe, surely itís ok. Itís not like weíre doing a Cummings.
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ May 28 2020, 08:26 PM) *
Had my niece's family in the garden yesterday with 5-year-old and the dog. My parents loved seeing them, it cheered my mum up no end sitting in a wheelchair in the conservatory while they were 2m away and chatting happily for her to listen to (she can't talk). We have a downstairs toilet which we don't use, right by the front door, for visitors with sink and soap, and I clean it and put fresh towels in after visitors have gone, and it's closed off from the rest of the house by another door. When they've gone, leave it a couple of days then go in and clean it again.

Piece of piss. Johnson can go f*** himself, I'll decide what's best for my family we all know where we've been and are all at risk, his advice on anything is worthless. We have the biggest death rate in the world. Thanks to him and Herd Cummingsimmunity.



QUOTE(T Boy @ May 28 2020, 08:48 PM) *
Iím in Wales so restrictions arenít even as loose as England but Iím actually having family in my garden tomorrow. Itís my brotherís birthday so Iím having him and our mum and dad round for an hour for tea and cake. My mum is sorting the tea and cake so that weíre socially distant, Iím going to set the garden up for social distance and itíll be for less than an hour. Itís army house because my parents have a dog and you canít access my brotherís garden without entering his house. This will be the first time Iíve seen any family in person for 10 weeks. I was nervous about breaking the rules but as long as weíre safe, surely itís ok. Itís not like weíre doing a Cummings.


Well the Government have said we can use common sense now, so all rules are out of the window. Why I have no doubt that both of you will adhere to being as safe as possible, the problem is many other people don't. But I also agree to just totally f*** the Government now. The good news is I think they have damaged themselves with journalists at least, so I can't see them being too forgiving.

Worryingly we do seem to be morphing in to a Trump-led America. I'm wondering if this was the strategy all along.
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Yeah, Iíll be fine because this is as far as Iím willing to go and I doubt weíll even do this again for some time. But the behaviour of Cummings has only given justification to those who arenít careful.
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377 deaths in Britain today against 66 in France, with some countries hit really hard in March doing even better, such as just 2 in Switzerland and 38 over the course of the last week for Spain.

A quick calculation suggests that more people are dying daily in Britain than the rest of Europe put together right now.


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Does anyone know the daily rate of infection?
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How are people still dying of it? This must be doctors and nurses and key workers, right? Or old people who have had it for a long time and are only now succumbing?

I really don't understand how otherwise the numbers are so much more than elsewhere in Europe when we have all been under house arrest for three months except to go food shopping.
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Has anybody thought that parks are going to be at nearly full capacity with people meeting up with six other people which means there will be less space for social distancing
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QUOTE(J00psyMethyd @ May 28 2020, 10:42 PM) *
How are people still dying of it? This must be doctors and nurses and key workers, right? Or old people who have had it for a long time and are only now succumbing?

I really don't understand how otherwise the numbers are so much more than elsewhere in Europe when we have all been under house arrest for three months except to go food shopping.

I honestly would be more worried if it was healthcare workers and key workers, given in other countries like The Netherlands the over 50% of deaths are 80+.

It must be care homes in England

Also it's only been a little over 2 months kink.gif
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Ok so saw on the Coronavirus Podcast just now that there were as many as 54,000 new infections in England over the last week.

Sounds like track and trace will be easy 😐
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QUOTE(*Tim @ May 29 2020, 12:10 AM) *
I honestly would be more worried if it was healthcare workers and key workers, given in other countries like The Netherlands the over 50% of deaths are 80+.

It must be care homes in England

Also it's only been a little over 2 months kink.gif


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I canít understand how England are loosening their lockdown this much when so many are still dying. Werenít the death and infection rates much lower in other countries when they got to this point? Iím not saying there shouldnít be a loosening but Boris seems to think itíll be business as usual by the end of June.
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More infections, more deaths not a surprise at all. VE Day when everyone was led to believe the PM was going to announce everyone was free to do what they like, even conga in the streets. Why did they announce he was going to make an announcement 5 days ahead of the actual announcement and with a Bank Holdiay celebration in between? Surely that would be utter madness to a sane person? Not to one looking for excuses to get his f***wit off the hook. I'm talking about Cummings planning the whole farce to get himself off the hook of course. Johnson is the f***wit who does as he's told.
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QUOTE(T Boy @ May 29 2020, 08:53 AM) *
I canít understand how England are loosening their lockdown this much when so many are still dying. Werenít the death and infection rates much lower in other countries when they got to this point? Iím not saying there shouldnít be a loosening but Boris seems to think itíll be business as usual by the end of June.


I'd like to see the daily rate of infection rates but that one thing the media NEVER talks about.

It's obvious that Boris has decided the economy is more important than people potentially dying since the start of May. And this was a man allegedly in intensive care which gives a 50/50 survival rate....yet he still is back to business as usual. You could tell at yesterday's update the scientists weren't happy and warning people about social distancing. They've obviously been told that the economy is opening again no matter what their scientific intellect shows.
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QUOTE(T Boy @ May 29 2020, 08:53 AM) *
I canít understand how England are loosening their lockdown this much when so many are still dying. Werenít the death and infection rates much lower in other countries when they got to this point? Iím not saying there shouldnít be a loosening but Boris seems to think itíll be business as usual by the end of June.


Its so they've got things to announce that can shift the public away from Dominic Cummings
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QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ May 29 2020, 12:35 PM) *
Its so they've got things to announce that can shift the public away from Dominic Cummings


I think some of the changes are, but not on the whole. Isn't the issue with the economy that we have to get it going again? I work for a food manufacturer and while we have been impacted, we still produce food for the nation. They are forecasting the economy to not even be at the same level at the start of 2020 until 2025 and will have to react and make cuts. This is a company which has not furloughed a single staff member, so God help the rest of the privately owned companies. Major companies are starting with 10% cuts in workforces because the economy has shrunk. There comes a point where we have to strike a balance, otherwise we are going to have mass unemployment.

The issue is even though the R rate is not where it needs to be, I believe with a strong public health messaging it could be "controlled" to a degree that keeps community transmission as minimal as possible. But with the whole Cummings debacle it's totally ruined that. But I'm of the viewpoint that waiting another 1-2 months will just cripple out economy for a entire generation.
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