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Posted by: zenon 1st April 2021, 01:30 PM

As part of a move to reignite interest and to allow more lesser known artists to reach more music fans, the OCC have announced that the broadcast portion of the official chart will extend to a top 50 with Radio 1 extending the show to a 3pm start. The changes will come to effect in July.


April fool by the way but have changed title.

Posted by: T Boy 1st April 2021, 01:31 PM

Isn’t it late in the day for an April fool?

Posted by: Dobbo. 1st April 2021, 01:33 PM

Actually quite realistic as they always do a change in July but not falling for it!

Posted by: zenon 1st April 2021, 01:37 PM

Yes it is indeed an April Fool but I think because new artists and lesser genres find it harder to reach top 40 these days they should really consider extending the show to a top 50. Bicep are an example that would have benefited.

Posted by: Gambo 1st April 2021, 01:50 PM

Sadly nowadays I think you'd have to extend the show to the Top 200 to get any significant exposure from it for less well-represented acts and genres!

Posted by: zenon 1st April 2021, 02:09 PM

ROSE and Jorja Smith would have been broadcast two weeks ago in a top 50 show, were 43 and 46 respectively, whereas Jorja fell to 61, ROSE is no longer top 100. Possibly also victims of Spotify's sexist attitudes.

Posted by: JosephStyles 1st April 2021, 02:43 PM

ROSÉ was fuelled mostly by fanbase buys (she's a member of BLACPINK) while Jorja's song just hasn't caught on...

I think it's just a case of bad luck if a song misses out on a top 40 play. ACR already helps a lot of fresher music enter the top 40 quicker, the bottom half of the top 40 is generally the faster moving part already so extending doesn't really come with much benefit in my view.

Posted by: Everton 1st April 2021, 05:12 PM

Still does make any sense why chart on Friday as end of week is Sunday. Don’t have all new realises on Firday like use to some times come on Thursday witch does not make sense as lose sales

Posted by: T Boy 1st April 2021, 05:36 PM

I wasn’t a fan of moving the chart from Sunday to Friday but I absolutely don’t think they should move it back at this point.

Posted by: JosephStyles 1st April 2021, 05:40 PM

Most songs don't peak in week 1 anyway so coming out on Thursday doesn't matter. It's the label's choice if they want to "lose" a day of sales. It's on Friday to coincide with the global release day, and it's faaaar more sensible than what we used to have - albums would come out on Fridays in some countries, then not until Monday in others, and of course they all leak online! The move benefits albums more than singles really.

Posted by: Tombo 2nd April 2021, 07:45 PM

No, they already skip a load of tracks so with a top 50 they would skip even more.

Posted by: zenon 2nd April 2021, 11:45 PM

But they would likely extend the show another hour.

Posted by: adrianreavill83 3rd April 2021, 09:11 AM

No. I don't even followed the Radio 1 charts anymore after stopped listening to the charts because of Taylor Swift's YTNCD in 2019.

Posted by: dan::G 3rd April 2021, 10:47 AM

I think they’re far more likely to just cancel the chart show altogether than extend it.

Posted by: steve201 3rd April 2021, 11:36 AM

I would be hugely surprised if they got rid of the chart, it’s basically been an institution since the 60s on UK radio even if consumption now means it’s less relevant.

Posted by: CJK 3rd April 2021, 11:39 AM

Interest in the singles chart is quite low, so I would say it should stick to a Top 40.

I think a Friday is a good day as people can listen to it at work if they are allowed a radio on, and the latter half on their way home if they finish at 5pm.
Much more likely than people bothering to tune in on a Sunday afternoon (though I recognise people did when it was more popular years ago).

Posted by: chartjack2 3rd April 2021, 01:33 PM

I actually think they should reduce it to a Top 20 tbh and play each track in full

Posted by: Everton 3rd April 2021, 02:09 PM

I pef listen to my own chart more this days to munch deadwood hang around

Posted by: SevenSeize 3rd April 2021, 02:20 PM

If the chart show were to play new stuff from the 41-100 region I’d probably tune in regularly, that’s where most of the good/interesting hits land nowadays e.g. Cloud 9, SugarCrash, Pierre, Your New Boyfriend...

Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd April 2021, 02:20 PM

They used to play the full top 25 when the chart first moved to Fridays before changing to the current format in 2017, much to most of Buzzjack's relief as the top 25 barely changed each week - particularly in the days before ACR. Even now it's still the most static part of the chart, naturally.

I think R1 have got the chart spot on right now. The full top 40 doesn't need to be played when the chart is slower than it used to be, but they play 99% of the new entries and notable climbers and they're the interesting parts. I don't think it needs to be shortened or lengthened, what we have right now is perfect for showcasing both the big hits and those on their way up.

(oh and I'd be gobsmacked if they cancelled the chart considering it's the biggest chart show on radio)

Posted by: steve201 3rd April 2021, 06:34 PM

Even in the 80s and 90s they didn’t play all the top 40 only the new entries and climbers!

Posted by: Robbie 3rd April 2021, 07:34 PM

They did from 1992 onwards, when the top 40 extended from 2½ hours to 3 hours. That lasted until some point in the early to mid 00s when records started being skipped once again.

Posted by: steve201 3rd April 2021, 09:50 PM

We can thank Wes for that! So 1992-2002 was the full chart? M

Currently listening to the charts on no cloud from 1990 and Bruno Brookes generally skipped some fallers.

Posted by: zenon 3rd April 2021, 11:36 PM

Sometimes they would play fallers if there were not enough new entries.

Posted by: HiyaLuv! 3rd April 2021, 11:44 PM

Grew up with diverse charts, and almost every single of note went Top 40. Having something to buy must have helped. Even if I already owned the album and therefore the song, I always opted for the multiple CDs etc to get the b-sides. But not sure if extending to a Top 50 would make it much more interesting considering so many big R1 guitar acts can't even get a Top 100.

Not just guitar bands either. Remind Me by High Contrast felt massive cos of R1 in 2016 and I think it got to #131 or something. And not a big fan of HEAT peaking at fecking #61!

Posted by: Riser 5th April 2021, 02:58 AM

Why, what happened to YNTCD?

Posted by: Bré 5th April 2021, 04:39 PM

YNTCD being so bad it drove people away from the charts entirely

Posted by: Smint 5th April 2021, 07:46 PM

In the late 80s/early 90s they would play all new entries and climbers and some of the fallers. The number of fallers was dictated by the chart itself depending on how many new entries and climbers were in the bottom half of the top 40. If there were loads then they started to play fallers from about no.16 but if there were few then they would have time to play fallers from about no.23. But generally the top 15 would always be played in full.

Cant remember if they played non movers in the lower part of the chart. I think not but does anyone know?