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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Kylie and Dannii Minogue _ Santa Baby

Posted by: pippa 28th November 2019, 03:41 PM

Its that time of year again when we can hope to see the wonderful Kylie make a return to the Top 75 singles chart.
Where do you think Santa Baby will peak on the chart for 2019?

Posted by: Red Blooded Man 28th November 2019, 03:51 PM

Top 100

Posted by: pippa 28th November 2019, 04:00 PM

I have voted Top 75, although, i feel it could move its way to the top 60 region of the chart.

Posted by: aeroco 28th November 2019, 04:13 PM

As it’s on ACR top 100.

Posted by: pippa 28th November 2019, 04:52 PM

Was it on ACR last year?

Posted by: aeroco 28th November 2019, 05:31 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Nov 28 2019, 04:52 PM) *
Was it on ACR last year?


Yes, stopped it being a Christmas takeover after what happened 2017.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th November 2019, 06:00 PM

Il stay positive and go for top 75 so fingers crossed as we haven't had kylie on the singles chart this year.

Posted by: ___∆___ 28th November 2019, 08:40 PM

Hopefully Top 75 but it doesn’t seem to be high on any of the big Christmas playlists so far nocheer.gif

Posted by: common sense 29th November 2019, 12:11 AM

Top 75, just.

Posted by: Medellíam 29th November 2019, 12:14 AM

Re-entered the Top 1500 on iTunes for the first time this year at #1287 with lots of Christmas songs above it. A shame when it always used to do well on sales back when streams weren't included / were less dominant in the charts. Doesn't seem to be making up for it on streams either as, like ___∆___ says, it's not getting good exposure on playlists at the moment.

I think it'll still manage to re-enter the charts, even if it's in the last week, considering the way Christmas falls this year. Hopefully it can get better exposure before then.

I'd also like 'At Christmas' to finally chart, pretty sure it did decently on streams last year (or the year before).

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th November 2019, 12:40 AM

It usually has a slow start but let's it's starting to show on the chart now.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th November 2019, 12:23 PM

Santa baby should be on sbit as it would help streaming.

Posted by: pippa 29th November 2019, 01:50 PM

With it one of Kylie's most successful songs in the streaming channel it would have been best to have added it to Step Back in Time.

Posted by: Medellíam 29th November 2019, 07:56 PM

I guess they could have added 'Santa Baby' to the album on streaming services but kept it off physical editions.

Out of the iTunes Top 1500 again now. Not sure just how well it's doing on streaming at the moment but it has risen to the top of Kylie's most popular on Spotify. 'At Christmas' is third and 'Christmas Wrapping' is tenth.

Posted by: pippa 29th November 2019, 08:11 PM

Indeed just adding to the streaming services could have helped.
It didnt necessarily have to be added to the physical release.

Posted by: aeroco 29th November 2019, 08:50 PM

I think Santa Baby will break through 100million Spotify streams this year, At Christmas 15 million. In fact in time KylieChristmas will be her most streamed album. Shame it’s still not enough to see it re enter the UK album charts, though you never know it might make it back this year.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th November 2019, 02:22 AM

It would be great to see kylie christmas top 100 but don't think it will happen.

Posted by: Medellíam 1st December 2019, 10:00 PM

Cracked the Top 200 on UK Spotify a couple of days ago then climbed into the Top 100:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st December 2019, 10:34 PM

I hope it keeps climbing, could pass 300k in total this year.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 1st December 2019, 10:38 PM

She is also getting some Apple streaming already which is good.


She didn't make the new Now Xma album though which is costly.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st December 2019, 10:47 PM

It usually picks up at the very last min in the charts.

Posted by: SamJudd 2nd December 2019, 03:08 PM

TOP 60

Posted by: pippa 2nd December 2019, 04:35 PM

QUOTE(SamJudd @ Dec 2 2019, 03:08 PM) *
TOP 60


I think it will get to that region of the chart too.

Posted by: Medellíam 2nd December 2019, 05:44 PM

Santa Baby: 2019 Spotify Progress:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308
01/12/2019: #49, 160,548

Making good progress now! Will probably drop back a little in the next update, as there's always a 1st December boost, but I'm feeling more confident about how it performs this year.

Posted by: pippa 2nd December 2019, 05:49 PM

The early indications are good for a Top 75 return.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 2nd December 2019, 06:13 PM

171st on Spotify worldwide yesterday

Posted by: Medellíam 2nd December 2019, 06:46 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Dec 2 2019, 06:13 PM) *
171st on Spotify worldwide yesterday

Seems decent. 682,104 worldwide streams so 23.5% from the UK. Next biggest share is 16.3% (110,909 streams) from Germany.

Just had a look where it placed last year and it had entered the Global Spotify chart at #197 with 678,760 so performing similarly so far.

Santa Baby: 2018 Global Spotify:

01/12/2018: #197, 678,760
02/12/2018: #158, 714,521
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08/12/2018: #154, 827,742
09/12/2018: #140, 805,774
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13/12/2018: #188, 681,725
14/12/2018: #174, 772,244
15/12/2018: #121, 949,006
16/12/2018: #103, 921,265
17/12/2018: #181, 686,926
18/12/2018: #170, 730,583
19/12/2018: #152, 783,390
20/12/2018: #132, 881,638
21/12/2018: #111, 1,117,664
22/12/2018: #89, 1,226,376
23/12/2018: #64, 1,352,863
24/12/2018: #39, 2,553,285
25/12/2018: #42, 2,219,304

Santa Baby: 2018 UK Spotify:

24/11/2018: #130, 64,147
25/11/2018: #67, 84,639
26/11/2018: #158, 51,757
27/11/2018: #145, 57,416
28/11/2018: #200, 48,895
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30/11/2018: #151, 73,286
01/12/2018: #39, 182,837
02/12/2018: #36, 172,210
03/12/2018: #65, 116,394
04/12/2018: #64, 115,726
05/12/2018: #64, 112,671
06/12/2018: #66, 106,799
07/12/2018: #65, 137,508
08/12/2018: #35, 187,264
09/12/2018: #27, 189,256
10/12/2018: #58, 119,981
11/12/2018: #51, 124,948
12/12/2018: #50, 131,264
13/12/2018: #37, 163,368
14/12/2018: #32, 198,719
15/12/2018: #27, 232,527
16/12/2018: #25, 205,175
17/12/2018: #37, 150,276
18/12/2018: #33, 165,454
19/12/2018: #32, 174,916
20/12/2018: #28, 205,224
21/12/2018: #24, 255,830
22/12/2018: #24, 262,523
23/12/2018: #22, 281,781
24/12/2018: #21, 436,110
25/12/2018: #24, 676,720
26/12/2018: #64, 96,357

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd December 2019, 01:41 AM

Surprised as huge a drop for st Stephens day 2018.

Posted by: pippa 3rd December 2019, 03:11 PM

It is a large decline on a day that Christmas music would still be in full action.
A drop of half a million streams in a day is large.

Posted by: Medellíam 3rd December 2019, 08:55 PM

Santa Baby: 2019 Spotify Progress:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308
01/12/2019: #49, 160,548
02/12/2019: #78, 101,532

Bit of a drop, as I expected, but still above 100k streams. Out of the worldwide Spotify chart.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th December 2019, 01:21 PM

Streams for xmas songs in general should really jump this weekend.

Posted by: pippa 4th December 2019, 04:30 PM

Each day from now until the 25th should see the streaming of Christmas songs increase.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th December 2019, 01:03 AM

I'm hoping Santa baby will start picking up this weekend.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 6th December 2019, 06:36 PM

Loads of Xmas songs made the top 100 this week, Santa Baby didn't....

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th December 2019, 07:09 PM

Prob could take 2 weeks for it to get there.

Posted by: Medellíam 6th December 2019, 11:04 PM

Under old chart rules, 'Santa Baby' re-entered at #127 with 8,764 units, taking its tally to 338.5k. Up 173.1% week-on-week.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th December 2019, 11:15 PM

Getting nearer to the 400k.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th December 2019, 04:26 PM

I wonder has kylie made much money from santa baby.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 8th December 2019, 09:41 PM

Looks like Santa Baby is struggling a bit this year....

So many new Xmas songs now that some of these oldies struggling a bit

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th December 2019, 01:48 AM

I'm hoping it can make a late burst into the charts.

Posted by: pippa 9th December 2019, 02:58 PM

It would need to start making some of the increase this week to build its way into the charts in the next fortnight.

Posted by: Medellíam 9th December 2019, 11:23 PM

Santa Baby: 2019 Spotify Progress:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308
01/12/2019: #49, 160,548
02/12/2019: #78, 101,532
03/12/2019: #81, 98,548
04/12/2019: #83, 98,929
05/12/2019: #98, 98,124
06/12/2019: #83, 112,921
07/12/2019: #59, 148,471
08/12/2019: #55, 140,815

Nice weekend boost! Enters at #178 on the Global chart with 726,959 streams.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 9th December 2019, 11:59 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Dec 1 2019, 10:38 PM) *
She is also getting some Apple streaming already which is good.
She didn't make the new Now Xma album though which is costly.



Do you mean the new Now 100 Hits Christmas?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th December 2019, 12:28 AM

QUOTE(Medellíam @ Dec 9 2019, 11:23 PM) *
Santa Baby: 2019 Spotify Progress:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308
01/12/2019: #49, 160,548
02/12/2019: #78, 101,532
03/12/2019: #81, 98,548
04/12/2019: #83, 98,929
05/12/2019: #98, 98,124
06/12/2019: #83, 112,921
07/12/2019: #59, 148,471
08/12/2019: #55, 140,815

Nice weekend boost! Enters at #178 on the Global chart with 726,959 streams.

Nice jump on Saturday, but not as high streams as she got on the 1st of the month.

Posted by: pippa 10th December 2019, 04:05 PM

Her streaming numbers would need to double to get back on the official chart.


Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th December 2019, 11:11 PM

At the least she needs that.

Posted by: pippa 11th December 2019, 02:28 PM

Is the Kylie version of Santa Baby the best selling version of the song?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th December 2019, 10:53 PM

As far as I know it is.

Posted by: pippa 12th December 2019, 02:57 PM

It is her slowest building hit, that is for sure.
It played with making its way to the Top 75 for a long time and repeated the same with going Top 40.
And now, its heading to 400k sales over an 18 year period.

Posted by: Medellíam 12th December 2019, 06:32 PM

Santa Baby: 2019 Spotify Progress:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308
01/12/2019: #49, 160,548
02/12/2019: #78, 101,532
03/12/2019: #81, 98,548
04/12/2019: #83, 98,929
05/12/2019: #98, 98,124
06/12/2019: #83, 112,921
07/12/2019: #59, 148,471
08/12/2019: #55, 140,815
09/12/2019: #102, 89,794
10/12/2019: #90, 96,584
11/12/2019: #83, 105,484

QUOTE(pippa @ Dec 11 2019, 02:28 PM) *
Is the Kylie version of Santa Baby the best selling version of the song?

It is, currently on 339k. Eartha Kitt's original isn't far behind, currently on 289k, and was actually ahead by 1k last week in the charts. Kylie's version is typically the most popular with playlists though and is way ahead on Spotify at the moment.

Posted by: pippa 12th December 2019, 08:39 PM

Kylie has a 50k lead on the original so it will remain the biggest selling version for a year or 2 at the least.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th December 2019, 12:23 AM

Great that its the best selling version and I hope it stays that way.

Posted by: pippa 13th December 2019, 03:55 PM

I think it will short term.
Beyond that it will fall to which version will pick up the most annual streaming points.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th December 2019, 11:16 PM

I'm really hoping we will see santa baby get somewhere this week.

Posted by: Medellíam 14th December 2019, 12:28 AM

Up to #113 on the old rules chart, another 10.5k shifted to take its total up to 349k.

Eartha Kitt's version is still ahead, at #99. Guessing her version must be performing better on Apple Music because it's behind on Spotify.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2019, 02:18 AM

Another 10k sales is good, another 25k should be possible by year end.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 14th December 2019, 12:37 PM

It's not getting as much love this year as new Xmas songs appear

Also the snowflake community saying its a sexist song doesn't help

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2019, 04:15 PM

No it def seemed more popular in the last 2-3 years more than this year. It's not a sing I hugely like myself but want too see kylie in the charts. With santa baby been a double a side with please stay , with sales combined its the 2nd best selling single from light years.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2019, 01:30 AM

Christmas isnt christmas till u get here is higher in ireland than santa baby, didn't see that coming.

Posted by: pippa 16th December 2019, 03:50 PM

It is welcoming to see a different Kylie song pick up some sales somewhere apart from Santa Baby.

Posted by: Medellíam 16th December 2019, 04:36 PM

Santa Baby: 2019 Spotify Progress:

29/11/2019: #185, 54,889
30/11/2019: #96, 89,308
01/12/2019: #49, 160,548
02/12/2019: #78, 101,532
03/12/2019: #81, 98,548
04/12/2019: #83, 98,929
05/12/2019: #98, 98,124
06/12/2019: #83, 112,921
07/12/2019: #59, 148,471
08/12/2019: #55, 140,815
09/12/2019: #102, 89,794
10/12/2019: #90, 96,584
11/12/2019: #83, 105,484
12/12/2019: #81, 110,362
13/12/2019: #93, 130,008
14/12/2019: #65, 154,070
15/12/2019: #58, 137,428

Posted by: pippa 16th December 2019, 05:03 PM

Is it anywhere near charting officially?

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th December 2019, 07:56 PM

Streaming really seems to have dumped ‘Santa Baby’ after they were all over it and helped it go Top 40 a few years back - I wish they would get hind one of her other Christmas songs.

Posted by: pippa 16th December 2019, 09:26 PM

They appear to have moved on from it, im supporting it as i always enjoy success for Kylie.
As a song, it is not a Christmas song i would play too often.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th December 2019, 01:51 AM

Il be disappointed if it doesnt chart at all this year as I was sure it would go top 75.

Posted by: ___∆___ 17th December 2019, 09:12 AM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Dec 17 2019, 01:51 AM) *
Il be disappointed if it doesnt chart at all this year as I was sure it would go top 75.


It really feels like a forgotten song now after looking like it was going to become a Christmas staple - even though I’m not a fan of SB I’d love her to get a yearly boost/hit like Mariah, Leona, Ariana etc.,

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 17th December 2019, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Dec 16 2019, 01:30 AM) *
Christmas isnt christmas till u get here is higher in ireland than santa baby, didn't see that coming.


That needs to become the Christmas song she's known for in years to come, it's certainly the one I go to.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th December 2019, 01:08 PM

It would be nice if it could take off and get some annual sales and chart but I don't think it will ever happen, I wish it could be christmas every day live from Albert hall is her Christmas song I go to, i really live the live version.

Posted by: pippa 17th December 2019, 02:35 PM

Christmas Isn't Christmas Til You Get Here is one of the strongest Kylie has to offer regarding Christmas material.
I think when Kylie released Kylie Christmas, she made the mistake of not promoting a main single.
There was no single song that was pushed.
In hindsight, if Christmas Isn't Christmas Til You Get Here was pushed back then it could possibly be doing something now.


Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th December 2019, 11:37 PM

Ya it needed to have been promoted as the main single from kylie christmas to be making any waves now.

Posted by: pippa 18th December 2019, 01:49 PM

Yes, i would think the same.
Its also unlikely to get any further performances from Kylie so it will be a lost Christmas song outside the Kylie fanbase.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th December 2019, 04:00 PM

What I've been thinking since 2015, is that song really needs to be used in an advert. It's PERFECT for it!

Posted by: Dlo 18th December 2019, 06:10 PM

Don’t understand why people are not happy that Santa baby will increase its streams by 20 million! A great achievement

Posted by: pippa 18th December 2019, 07:50 PM

Santa Baby has done very well and helped Kylie achieve another Top 40 hit with very good sales.
I think some of us welcome another Kylie song performing well and i do agree that Christmas Isn't Christmas Til You Get Here could benefit greatly if used with a good TV commercial.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 18th December 2019, 11:43 PM

I'd love people to move onto a new kylie festive song too and get her another chart entry.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 19th December 2019, 12:42 AM

QUOTE(Dlo @ Dec 18 2019, 06:10 PM) *
Don’t understand why people are not happy that Santa baby will increase its streams by 20 million! A great achievement


I think partly because these days it's the only time a lot of people acknowledge her existence, and it'd be nice if she was known for something else. laugh.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th December 2019, 11:38 AM

Ya I agree, and it's an opportunity to expand on it at Christmas.

Posted by: pippa 19th December 2019, 04:00 PM

In general, it is very hard for any new Christmas songs to make progress, Leona Lewis and Coldplay are 2 of the few in recent years who managed great success with Christmas singles.
I dont think Kylie is enough flavour of the month to achieve another long stay Christmas selling single.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 20th December 2019, 01:03 AM

I feel the same, while I'd love it to happen I cant see it.

Posted by: pippa 20th December 2019, 05:35 PM

I am starting to fear Santa Baby wont make its yearly Top 100 return this year.
This would be disappointing considering Kylie has had a very active 2019.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 20th December 2019, 11:54 PM

Sure it will next week, that's when all the Christmas songs will reach their peak for this year.

Gonna be bold and say it might even manage a top 50 placing next week.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 21st December 2019, 03:59 AM

I'd be over the moon with top 50.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 21st December 2019, 09:23 AM

i think top 100 is best we can hope for

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 21st December 2019, 01:03 PM

I'd be happy with that, ideally it will sneak into the top 75 but anything is better than nothing.

Posted by: pippa 23rd December 2019, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Dec 21 2019, 09:23 AM) *
i think top 100 is best we can hope for


I will be very disappointed if it doesn't make its way into the chart this week.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 23rd December 2019, 05:53 PM

98 in this weeks Midweeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

should be able to keep its top 100 placing this week. Fingers crossed!

Eartha Kitt version 79th and seems to be the one getting the streams this year.

Posted by: pippa 23rd December 2019, 06:31 PM

With it Top 100 in the early part of the week, its streaming is sure to improve to secure its official place in the Top 100 this week.

Posted by: ___∆___ 23rd December 2019, 10:42 PM

Glad it’s finally made an appearance but #98 is tragic drama.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th December 2019, 01:10 AM

It wont be making the top 75 this year based in that but hopefully can be somewhere in the top 100.

Posted by: pippa 24th December 2019, 01:28 PM

My thoughts are now Number 85 on Friday.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th December 2019, 06:33 PM

That's prob a fair prediction all things considered.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th December 2019, 11:40 PM

Start to climb now on spotify.

Posted by: ___∆___ 25th December 2019, 12:53 PM

Made a playlist that I left on play overnight Mariah then Kylie then Mariah etc., sleep.gif

Posted by: SmileyKylie 25th December 2019, 07:20 PM

50th most streamed worldwide on Spotify yesterday and 30th in UK.

Should be strong again today and Thursday is an estimate so she may well push for a top 75 place on Friday

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th December 2019, 08:16 PM

Hopefully top 75 but I'm not sure.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 27th December 2019, 05:49 PM

Yes!

74 this week. Made the top 75

Posted by: Monzo 27th December 2019, 06:03 PM

That's great! In Germany SB reenters at 67, but sadly it couldn't reach last year's peak # 60

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2019, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Dec 27 2019, 05:49 PM) *
Yes!

74 this week. Made the top 75

Wow, very happy with that, didn't think it would do top 75 this year.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 27th December 2019, 06:14 PM

It had very good last few days in the Spotify top 30 and worldwide 50.

Seemed to struggle a little this year so thats a very good result

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2019, 06:18 PM

Next year it will pass 400k. Thank god it's top 75, I hated the year it peaked at number 76.

Posted by: aeroco 27th December 2019, 06:24 PM

Yes it powered it’s way into the top 75 with highest ever daily UK streams on Christmas Day. Phew.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2019, 07:29 PM

Another year where kylie has made her way to the top 75. Not just santa baby, but how many years has kylie made the top 75 at least once.

Posted by: ___∆___ 28th December 2019, 03:45 PM

I literally played this so much to try and help it this year laugh.gif Glad it managed to sneak into the Top 75

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th December 2019, 04:24 PM

Once it gets top 75 I do be happy as it had years of a number 76 peak.

Posted by: pippa 2nd January 2020, 02:51 PM

Not as popular as previous years but it did return Kylie to the Top 75 for the first time since Dancing.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th January 2020, 01:10 AM

The Irish top 100s finally updated after 3 weeks, we could only get the top 50s, santa baby made a number 78 return and dropped out the following week.

Posted by: pippa 10th January 2020, 02:29 PM

Very close in chart peaks in both the UK and Ireland FOR 2019.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th January 2020, 07:32 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jan 10 2020, 01:10 AM) *
The Irish top 100s finally updated after 3 weeks, we could only get the top 50s, santa baby made a number 78 return and dropped out the following week.


What’s SB’s peak in Ireland?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th January 2020, 09:10 PM

Number 52.

Posted by: pippa 13th January 2020, 02:41 PM

Not the worst peak considering Dancing failed to chart in Ireland.
The likelihood of it ever making the Top 50 there seems low now.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th October 2020, 04:01 PM

I hope it can at least go top 50 this year as kylie will popping g up here and there.

Posted by: pippa 24th October 2020, 04:33 PM

It didn't perform as strongly last year as the previous 2 years and Kylie had a good profile last year.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 24th October 2020, 05:00 PM

With Christmas Eve being on a Thursday this year, I don't anticipate it getting as high as before.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th October 2020, 06:10 PM

I think it could kylie back in the top 75 for the 2nd time this year.

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