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QUOTE(Liam sota @ 14th June 2024, 05:09 PM)  I don't disagree but the labour manifesto is quite similar on the sick and disabled Labour seem to be taking a more carrot than stick approach though - Reform are talking about stopping benefits after people inevitably get reassessed under them as fit to work. |
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Friday, 05:58 PM
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The rumours of the Tories running out of money actually might be true:
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Friday, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Liam sota @ 14th June 2024, 04:58 PM) “ NEW: Nigel Farage says Reform UK will scrap the two-child benefit cap When told that it will increase the benefits bill, he says it's important to "support families" “ Reform now to the left of Labour I can understand why both Labour and the Tories are in favour of keeping the Catholic Tax, for different ideological reason for each.i can also see why Reform are in favour of scrapping it, from their own ideological perspective. |
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Friday, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(DoBelieveTheHype @ 14th June 2024, 06:58 PM) The rumours of the Tories running out of money actually might be true: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyrr1zk1e8no The tories received 10% this time around of what they did in the first week of the 2019 election.  That’s an awful stat for them.
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Saturday, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Scene @ 13th June 2024, 10:46 PM) Btw, are there any current seat predictions for the parties? I haven’t seen any in a while. 🚨 NEW: The latest MRP puts Labour on course for 262 seat majority 🔴 LAB: 456 🔵 CON: 72 🟠 LD: 56 🟡 SNP: 37 🟣 RFM: 7 🟢 GRN: 1 Survation Think that would be hopeful in terms of reform seats but I'm sure they can use that projection to gain votes |
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Saturday, 09:00 PM
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Lib Dems have same % to be the official oposition as Trump had to win vs Hills!!! (25%)
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Saturday, 09:09 PM
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Yeh if the liberals are on 56 which is less than pre 2015 and snp on 37 Labour must be beating the tories in ALOT of English seats!
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Saturday, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ 15th June 2024, 10:09 PM) Yeh if the liberals are on 56 which is less than pre 2015 and snp on 37 Labour must be beating the tories in ALOT of English seats! Forgot to include the link https://www.survation.com/mrp-update-first-...farages-return/ Think it seems pretty comprehensive and credible |
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Saturday, 09:47 PM
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Just had a thought that this will be the first Labour general election win in Buzzjack’s existence, which is pretty crazy at it feels like Buzzjack has existed for ages. It is quite a seismic moment, even if not one I’m enthusiastic about myself.
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Yesterday, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(Liam sota @ 15th June 2024, 08:17 PM) 🚨 NEW: The latest MRP puts Labour on course for 262 seat majority 🔴 LAB: 456 🔵 CON: 72 🟠 LD: 56 🟡 SNP: 37 🟣 RFM: 7 🟢 GRN: 1 Survation Think that would be hopeful in terms of reform seats but I'm sure they can use that projection to gain votes Thank you, much appreciated!  Great showing for Labour! Nothing is deterring them so far it seems. Hopefully a smear campaign doesn't happen in the next few weeks... 
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Yesterday, 01:01 AM
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It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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Britain Is Broken
Britain Needs Reform The most bizarre party political broadcast I've seen. I thought there was something wrong with the telly. |
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Yesterday, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Scene @ 16th June 2024, 01:41 AM) . Hopefully a smear campaign doesn't happen in the next few weeks... You could argue with how how’s the papers are that there’s been a Labour smear campaign going for the last 14 years  But agreed hopefully something doesn’t derail them This post has been edited by ElectroBoy: Yesterday, 01:10 PM |
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Yesterday, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ 16th June 2024, 01:16 PM) You could argue with how how’s the papers are that there’s been a Labour sneer campaign going for the last 14 years But agreed hopefully something doesn’t derail them Yep with you there. More the reason to expect it lol.
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Yesterday, 01:14 PM
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What happens when the media decide to smear them again. I mean why do people listen to them?
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Yesterday, 03:09 PM
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They won't smear them now, they're not a threat to the forces of capital and they will be the next government. The smears will come out a couple of years into the term when the press suddenly start noticing immoralities that the Labour right are getting away with right now.
Lot of conversation about Corbyn saying he'd beat the Tories in their current form - which he would have a chance of doing, but he would certainly be having to contend with the journalists; who right now are having a jolly good laugh/making up shit about Islington North barren of Corbyn campaigners, they would be going rabid with smear stories if the Labour manifesto was anywhere left of Thatcher. It feels passé to bring it up but it does affect every part of our national discourse - it's sickening how much power the commentariat class has over our national conversation to influence views. It's why the bloody private school thing has been taking up so many airwaves relative to the number of people it affects, most journalists went to or have children at private schools, nothing to do with "aspiration" or whatever they're framing it as. |
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QUOTE(Iz 🌟 @ 16th June 2024, 04:09 PM) They won't smear them now, they're not a threat to the forces of capital and they will be the next government. The smears will come out a couple of years into the term when the press suddenly start noticing immoralities that the Labour right are getting away with right now. Lot of conversation about Corbyn saying he'd beat the Tories in their current form - which he would have a chance of doing, but he would certainly be having to contend with the journalists; who right now are having a jolly good laugh/making up shit about Islington North barren of Corbyn campaigners, they would be going rabid with smear stories if the Labour manifesto was anywhere left of Thatcher. It feels passé to bring it up but it does affect every part of our national discourse - it's sickening how much power the commentariat class has over our national conversation to influence views. It's why the bloody private school thing has been taking up so many airwaves relative to the number of people it affects, most journalists went to or have children at private schools, nothing to do with "aspiration" or whatever they're framing it as. And this is why Corbyn never got in to power! There's no way a Labour government under Corbyn would be winning this election against the Tories imo. Even though I've made it clear I'm not a fan of him, his polling data currently is about level that of the current Tories and there's no way he had the political nous and guile to navigate some of the foreign policy parts too. It's all moot imo as I am very unsure whether he would have been able to navigate NATO/Ukraine/Gaza in the way that cuts through to the public. I do agree on the latter points though. |
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