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Posted by: ThePensmith 22nd May 2017, 08:43 AM
Perhaps a little unsurprising given she is his support act on the summer tour that starts in two weeks, but Olly has just confirmed Louisa is guest vocalist on a brand new mix of "Unpredictable", the 4th single from "24 HRS". It's out on June 2nd!
Posted by: BigMixer 22nd May 2017, 08:51 AM
Woah. I thought he was done with this era, so great news!
Posted by: lewistgreen 22nd May 2017, 08:55 AM
Fantastic single choice!
Posted by: Dexton 22nd May 2017, 09:16 AM
Yet another grasp at relevance for Lousia 
Not that there's anything wrong with her, I actually really like her music, It's just a tad funny how things have gone for her lately 
Posted by: jase. 22nd May 2017, 11:45 AM
I don't think collabing with Olly is a "grasp at relevance" considering how poorly he's also done this era
Posted by: ThePensmith 22nd May 2017, 11:53 AM
A 4th #1 album that's now gone platinum and a gold selling top 20 hit in "You Don't Know Love" say hello to you...
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 22nd May 2017, 12:51 PM
Olly definitely has underperformed this era.
I love Louisa is featuring everywhere exactly what's needed to keep building her profile with different audiences regardless if they are flops or not.
Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 22nd May 2017, 12:55 PM
Olly's had a less successful era than he's used to but he's still a big name in pop music I'd say. I expect this will get a BGT performance?
Posted by: pippa 22nd May 2017, 01:44 PM
Olly's most recent album has not done as strong as previous albums, but it was a number 1 with sales to my knowledge approaching 400,000. While his success has reduced he is still doing reasonably well with 5 albums into his career.
As a fan myself, i did enjoy his most recent era as much as i have done with others. Olly appears to be in a transition period where is searching for a new sound. Personally, i thinkhe should stay with what he is known for as no one else was releasing the same style of music.
It will be interesting how the duet performs, with both signed to Syco, i would believe a BGT performance is a guarantee. It is likely this is Olly preparing for a re-release of the album. Syco really appear to be working hard to try and get Louisa established but i have doubts it will ever happen.
Posted by: mdh 22nd May 2017, 05:20 PM
Olly Murs is going all Little Mix re-release-ish with his 4th album single, it's a collab with Louisa (as you've probably seen from his album thread) and it's called Unpredictable.
You can hear the original wherever now but this re-release is released on the 2nd June 
. Rather excited.
Posted by: Cameron 22nd May 2017, 05:21 PM
There is literally a thread 2 threads down from this... Merging now.
Posted by: Regina 22nd May 2017, 05:21 PM
There's literally a topic for this not even halfway down the page....
Posted by: ThePensmith 22nd May 2017, 06:53 PM
Olly has confirmed on his Instagram story just now that he and Louisa are pre-recording a performance of this for 'Tonight at the London Palladium' this evening - air date yet TBC. I'd imagine a performance on Britain's Got Talent live shows will be a given!
Posted by: jase. 22nd May 2017, 07:25 PM
And his past eras chuckle at the above statement
I ain't having a dig, I'm just pointing out a fact - he's struggled compared to his past eras ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 22nd May 2017, 07:56 PM
I really think his album has performed really well in the end, especially considering the lack of any real hits.
Posted by: Cameron 23rd May 2017, 11:12 AM
I feel Olly is going to have a Robbie style career now with maybe 1 medium sized hit from his albums but manages to sell his albums well
Posted by: ThePensmith 23rd May 2017, 11:40 AM
It's funny really cause I said the exact same thing last year around the time 'You Don't Know Love' came out. Not on here but on another blog that was talking about Robbie. I think crucially what has always stood well in Olly's stead is that he is, as you've observed, always a really strong album and tour seller, and even if the singles only go top 20, 30 or 40 they're always huge airplay hits. 'You Don't Know Love' was number 1 at radio for five weeks last summer.
I don't know if it's still available for catchup but if anyone's got Sky+ I'd recommend watching his interview he did on John Bishop's chat show for W recently. Still so level headed and down to earth about his success.
Posted by: ros 24th May 2017, 11:22 AM
Has he all but given up abroad now? He certainly saturated the market here following this album release with his tv appearances on everything going, and vast touring.
Posted by: ThePensmith 24th May 2017, 01:18 PM
Not at all. He still has a big following in Germany and Australia. He did a lot of promo in Germany for the album right before Christmas as well as a VEVO Presents gig.
Posted by: ThePensmith 24th May 2017, 01:19 PM
Official artwork:
Posted by: Rossco 24th May 2017, 03:55 PM
A lot of thought has gone into that!
Posted by: pippa 24th May 2017, 04:17 PM
The official artwork, is nothing short of awful to put it nicely.
Posted by: ros 24th May 2017, 04:45 PM
Yes, thanks, I'm aware of that but is he not touring there any more? I thought I saw someone months ago saying that he wasn't going to tour in Australia at all.
Posted by: vibe 24th May 2017, 05:02 PM
Syco love
They really are trying to make Louisa huge , it's not going to happen .
Posted by: Slick 24th May 2017, 05:05 PM
This could be really good. I like Louisa a lot more post-X Factor than I did during the show, so I'm on board with this.
Posted by: ThePensmith 25th May 2017, 08:09 AM
First pictures from the video shoot, and a small piece in The Sun yesterday:
OLLY MURS and LOUISA JOHNSON are giving it the Essex Factor on a new track.
The former X Factor contestants have teamed up on Olly’s new single Unpredictable, and got to film the video in sunny Los Angeles.
In the promo the pair, who both come from Essex, get involved in a rather intense tennis match, which didn’t end with a glass of Robinsons’ barley water.
Posted by: Ryan. 25th May 2017, 12:57 PM
This is now being released on May 31, presumably it will be joined by a BGT performance!
Posted by: ThePensmith 25th May 2017, 06:02 PM
Just what I thought. The "Tonight at the London Palladium" performance will be on ITV on 7th June.
Posted by: cqmerqn 25th May 2017, 06:12 PM
Perfect collab.
They both look beautiful too
Posted by: Ryan. 25th May 2017, 06:18 PM
It makes me wish Olly had done a duet with Diana a few years ago when they were both in the charts and best friends! 
Posted by: cqmerqn 25th May 2017, 08:03 PM
This feels so forced though
Posted by: mdh (ft. Quavo) 25th May 2017, 08:23 PM
If they do this right, this could be just what British pop needs.
Posted by: danG 25th May 2017, 08:24 PM
It probably is forced. Both their previous singles missed the top 40 so putting them together and giving them TV performances to launch from is their best chance to get another hit.
Can't blame Syco for using this as an opportunity to promote two of their acts at once though!
Posted by: Ryan. 30th May 2017, 06:57 PM
The big Louisa note in the latest preview!
Posted by: Ryan. 30th May 2017, 11:14 PM
Intrigued to see this actually being released with Louisa on equal billing to Olly rather than a feature which makes me presume this is going to be Louisa's summer single rather than her releasing another song in the near future.
Great duet anyway, works really well! Sure to be a major radio hit and hopefully this can take off when combining their two fanbases.
Posted by: awardinary 30th May 2017, 11:19 PM
This sounds so fresh. 
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 31st May 2017, 01:36 AM
Surely they've got a BGT performance this week?
Why else would they release on a wednesday?
Posted by: Cameron 31st May 2017, 07:28 AM
This is out and is a bloody bop
Posted by: ThePensmith 31st May 2017, 08:00 AM
The actual production of the single mix of this is really good. It's just spoilt by Louisa going all vocal gymnastics on her ass. Not my absolute favourite single of his so far, but not the worst either (hello to you, "Up" and "Heart on My Sleeve").
Posted by: Dane 31st May 2017, 12:14 PM
Just heard this for the first time, absolutely LOVING it. It's such a nice summer bop. Can see this doing well! 
Posted by: pippa 31st May 2017, 01:26 PM
I hope it can do well, it has the summer vibe, a mixture of promotion and strong airplay is what it needs.
Posted by: Red. 1st June 2017, 12:37 AM
Really like this. Can't beat a catchy pop song once in a while!
Posted by: Ryan. 1st June 2017, 12:52 AM
Oh I love the Louisa vocal gymnastics, we don't get enough pure pop songs these days outside of Eurovision with some fabulous ad-libs for the final chorus!
Posted by: 360Jupiter 2nd June 2017, 05:57 PM
Wonder how they'll play the age difference in the video
Posted by: jase. 2nd June 2017, 09:52 PM
Such a dull, non-event of a collab 
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 2nd June 2017, 09:54 PM
I quite like this actually! Not quite 'You Don't Know Love' but waaaay better than whatever those other two atrocious singles were called (I have actually genuinely forgotten their names without Wiki-ing).
Posted by: Jonjo 2nd June 2017, 09:55 PM
Loving the new mix quite a bit actually! I really wasn't sold on the album version as I found it quite dreary, but the new production tweaks and Louisa is really adding to it for me!
Posted by: Liаm 3rd June 2017, 02:27 AM
This is... nice I guess but I can't imagine myself going back to it much.
Posted by: ThePensmith 4th June 2017, 06:30 PM
#26 on iTunes currently, but inevitably nowhere to be seen on Spotify. Given the impact date for this isn't until 7th July, I'd say this is set for another "You Don't Know Love" type performance chart wise.
Still. Very funny interview he did on Grimmy's breakfast show on Radio 1 on Friday where Louisa pranked him over the phone - I'd advise checking that one out
Posted by: pippa 5th June 2017, 07:21 PM
Number 50 in the mid weeks chart released today and i dont think it will climb any further for this week 
Posted by: ThePensmith 5th June 2017, 07:26 PM
They are on Dan Wootton's Facebook Live page tomorrow performing snd taking fan questions at 2pm. Olly was also on Dermot O'Leary's Radio 2 show at the weekend.
Posted by: ReyOfSpunShine 5th June 2017, 11:17 PM
I thought this was just "similar sounding to his last few hits but decent at the same time" but on the second chorus i feel it deserves to be big 
Posted by: awardinary 5th June 2017, 11:19 PM
Big hit in the making if the promo could be right.
Still a big shame they didn't get a BGT slot, but it would have been overshadowed by all these tribute songs anyway.
Posted by: ThePensmith 9th June 2017, 09:50 PM
Debuts at #71 this week. New entry at #18 on radio airplay chart as well. Video is out next week and another shot from it has been teased of Olly and Louisa in their tennis gear. Olly looks hilarious 
Tonight at London Palladium performance:
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 10th June 2017, 01:19 AM
Doing really well on itunes #22.
I think this could be Olly's biggest single from the album, it does have so much potential.
I'm hoping it can grab at least top 15 officially at some stage, Louisa needs another minor hit else she really is going to be in trouble.
Video looks like it could be brill, I hope they play up to how funny Olly looks
Posted by: Regina 11th June 2017, 07:23 PM
I haven't been on board with this era as I have in previous years but this is drawing me back, that and Olly in tennis clothes does something for me.
Posted by: lewistgreen 11th June 2017, 07:59 PM
This is so instant and fabulous!
Posted by: Jay ☆ 12th June 2017, 02:45 AM
https://www.facebook.com/ollymurs/videos/10158857974700080/ *.*
Posted by: ThePensmith 12th June 2017, 07:46 AM
Capital Summertime Ball performance:
Posted by: Regina 12th June 2017, 10:15 AM
Posted by: ThePensmith 14th June 2017, 10:31 AM
Straight onto the C-list at Radio 1 and Hot Hits UK on Spotify
Posted by: cqmerqn 14th June 2017, 08:18 PM
Great song. Louisa really adds to it!
Can see this being the biggest hit from the album.
Posted by: cqmerqn 14th June 2017, 08:21 PM
It's not playlisted!
Posted by: ThePensmith 14th June 2017, 08:23 PM
Olly's Instagram Stories says otherwise. B-list at Radio 2 as well!
Posted by: pippa 20th June 2017, 08:29 PM
It could be on the verge of entering the top 40 this week.
Posted by: SeanGrey 20th June 2017, 09:03 PM
I thought the video was meant to be dropping end of last week/start of this week?
Posted by: ThePensmith 21st June 2017, 09:38 AM
The man himself has confirmed it's now out on Friday. It's a bit of a running gag in Olly's fanbase that whenever he says "soon" on Twitter it almost inevitably means 'a fortnight or two later'
Posted by: SeanGrey 21st June 2017, 10:40 AM
I saw he posted that on Twitter just after I posted and forgot to edit!
Posted by: ThePensmith 22nd June 2017, 12:45 PM
Performing on The One Show on BBC One next Wednesday at 7pm. He's also with Louisa on Trending Live on 4Music today at 4pm!
Posted by: Joe. 22nd June 2017, 12:47 PM
I think Olly is kinda done as a singles artist. I imagine he can still shift albums nicely with good promo though.
Posted by: jase. 22nd June 2017, 08:58 PM
Agreed!
Posted by: BigMixer 22nd June 2017, 09:18 PM
Hm I don't think so.
His singles simply weren't as strong as they usually are, so that's why they underperformed/flopped.
I guess You Don't Know Love wasn't the smash he needed as a lead single and Grow Up was too generic for the GP.
He can still make a comeback with a more commercial single.
Posted by: ThePensmith 22nd June 2017, 11:11 PM
Video's here. Really funny! Reminded a little bit of Robbie Williams' video for 'Supreme'
Posted by: Cameron 22nd June 2017, 11:36 PM
Loved the video!
Posted by: Regina 23rd June 2017, 12:00 AM
omgolly
Posted by: SeanGrey 23rd June 2017, 07:13 AM
Olly in tennis it is certainly eye catching
I like the song however I hate the editing of the video - I understand they want to go for an older feel with the flickering filter but it makes it an annoying watch!
Posted by: BigMixer 23rd June 2017, 08:31 AM
what a fun video! Yea, the editing could've been a bit better but overall I really enjoyed it!
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 23rd June 2017, 03:28 PM
Great video, not holding out much hope of it going top 20 now.
It's a shame and I hope it picks up, it seems to be falling more with the reduction to 59p?!
I hope I'm wrong and it does start flying up the chart though, it's a solid pop track.
Posted by: Regina 23rd June 2017, 03:34 PM
This song can flop on it's arse tbh, I got all I needed from Olly in those tennis clothes *.*
Posted by: BigMixer 23rd June 2017, 06:06 PM
#49 this week.
Posted by: ThePensmith 25th June 2017, 03:44 PM
#10 on radio airplay chart, also now up to B list at Radio 1 and Radio 2!
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 25th June 2017, 04:36 PM
Radio play is amazing. Fingers crossed it can go top 40 this week or next with the One Show performance too!
Wonder if Radio 1 will end up A listing it 
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th June 2017, 05:16 PM
Hopefully it can go top 40 but i cant see it been any more now than a minor hit which is a shame.
Posted by: Jason 26th June 2017, 09:38 PM
For me, this is the best video of the year, there's no competition.
The song is good, but not amazing though.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 26th June 2017, 09:45 PM
It Should definitely manage top 40 when the new OCC rules come into force.
Posted by: ThePensmith 27th June 2017, 09:21 AM
Just been confirmed that the acoustic version is released this Friday...
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 27th June 2017, 09:45 AM
Anyone know if they are still performing on The One Show tomorrow?
Posted by: ThePensmith 27th June 2017, 10:25 AM
They are indeed. No other performances that I'm aware of yet!
Posted by: danG 27th June 2017, 10:49 AM
Clearly they're going to push this into the top 40 but I don't see it sticking around for long. With all the airplay Olly gets you'd think his singles would do a bit better but clearly he's more suited for the albums market now.
Poor Louisa Johnson can't seem to catch a break though, I expect she'll pop her head on another Clean Bandit single to try and give her some more popularity.
Posted by: cq(uavo)merqn 27th June 2017, 11:34 AM
So Good was big though
Posted by: ThePensmith 27th June 2017, 12:05 PM
Poor Louisa Johnson can't seem to catch a break though, I expect she'll pop her head on another Clean Bandit single to try and give her some more popularity.
The only reason they don't do better is because his fans - present company included - are generally not streamers (that makes us sound like a party decoration. I jest) which is where he generally falls down. You Don't Know Love and Kiss Me, for example, would've been top 10s without streaming factored in.
I doubt he loses too much sleep over it TBH. The album and the tours and the continued success of those are more of his concern. Also '24 Hrs' the album is a bit more of a maturer sound and whilst it has been a number one and gone platinum (close to double now), it's not exactly 'Right Place Right Time' territory on a singles or sales front, as a lot of fans are still adjusting to this new sound of his.
'Dance With Me Tonight' and 'Troublemaker' still get the biggest cheers on tour. Hopefully another hit of that standing comes with album 6.
As for Louisa...I'm fully expecting the 'Syco can confirm they have parted ways' speech by year's end.
Posted by: ros 27th June 2017, 02:49 PM
I doubt he loses too much sleep over it TBH. The album and the tours and the continued success of those are more of his concern. Also '24 Hrs' the album is a bit more of a maturer sound and whilst it has been a number one and gone platinum (close to double now), it's not exactly 'Right Place Right Time' territory on a singles or sales front, as a lot of fans are still adjusting to this new sound of his.
'Dance With Me Tonight' and 'Troublemaker' still get the biggest cheers on tour. Hopefully another hit of that standing comes with album 6.
As for Louisa...I'm fully expecting the 'Syco can confirm they have parted ways' speech by year's end.
"Close to double platinum" - ??
37 - 36 - 60,000 - 364,000 - Olly Murs - 24 Hours - 24/11/16 - 6
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 27th June 2017, 03:47 PM
Louisa does have so much potential. I really think out of most of Syco's signed artists she offers the most potential of recent years.
Posted by: 360Jupiter 27th June 2017, 08:40 PM
Poor Louisa Johnson can't seem to catch a break though, I expect she'll pop her head on another Clean Bandit single to try and give her some more popularity.
Doubt they'd let her. Clean Bandit are a chart force nowadays. 'Tears' always smacked of a bought-for feature by Cowell or Syco to give Louisa an initial leg-up.
Especially after Clean Bandit have had moments of breaking America and have a collab with Sam Smith in the pipeline. Louisa's hardly playing in that ballpark.
Posted by: Cameron 27th June 2017, 10:09 PM
I think they need to release Louisa's album to see how she'll do. I think releasing it in Q4 will be a big mistake if it comes this year
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 27th June 2017, 10:53 PM
Especially after Clean Bandit have had moments of breaking America and have a collab with Sam Smith in the pipeline. Louisa's hardly playing in that ballpark.
But it has been confirmed that Clean Bandit do in fact have another collaboration with Louisa?
Posted by: cq(uavo)merqn 27th June 2017, 10:59 PM
Doubt CB would release another Louisa one before the album.
Posted by: KWEEN_DEE 27th June 2017, 11:05 PM
Louisa's album is gonna do so terrible. Q4 with bigger XF guns. It smells like a disaster.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 27th June 2017, 11:55 PM
Either way I'll be buying it and if she gets dropped so be it. Least I'd of got one album.
I hope she isn't going with Bad Habit as the next single it doesn't sound that great in the muffled live video on Youtube.
She definitely should have gone down the 'So Good' sounding route, the bubblegum dance pop is not the way forward at all.
Ciao Adios would have been good for her, something a bit more edgy.
Posted by: ThePensmith 30th June 2017, 07:14 PM
Acoustic video:
The One Show performance:
He's on Sunday Brunch on Channel 4 at 9:30am on Sunday - no Louisa though, as The Vamps are on too and are the performance guests. Still. Any excuse to see Olly eating stuff he doesn't like and pulling a face like a toddler
Posted by: awardinary 30th June 2017, 07:18 PM
They are doing everything right in the way of promoting the single, but why is it still not Top 40. 
Posted by: ThePensmith 30th June 2017, 07:22 PM
The new chart stream ratio rule comes into force next week, so may be a chance for it yet. It's a non mover at #49 this week so it's showing stability at least.
Posted by: ThePensmith 3rd July 2017, 10:40 AM
Performing on This Morning tomorrow. If you've not seen his appearance on Sunday Brunch yesterday you need to All4 it immediately. Was so funny!
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 3rd July 2017, 10:47 AM
It's just because of streaming as always.
It's doing what Best Behaviour did, it's weird as unpredictable has such a similar chart run so far.
It really needs to be higher up on Hot Hits to start progressing.
I'm confident it'll go too 40 this week though, it's been doing better on streaming and iTunes so far.
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd July 2017, 09:04 PM
It's number 31 in the midweeks so let's hope it can stay top 40.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 3rd July 2017, 10:59 PM
It should do with This Morning too!
I really hope it can at least make top 20 it's honestly one of my favourites of the year, totally generic but an easy listen.
Posted by: tommie 4th July 2017, 03:04 AM
I think it's time to face the facts: Louisa is chart poison.
Considering the exposure plus the fact that most people want to see Olly's dique this should be number one.
Posted by: Dexton 4th July 2017, 03:17 AM
The "Louisa Curse" as I like to say, an uneccessary addition to a song. Gotta give it to her team though they are trying really hard to make her relevant. I think this collaboration with Olly is a sister-single to Ben Haenows single with Kelly Clarkson. Both generic and struggling in the charts. If this enters the charts this week & then peaks at #21 I'll be laughing
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 4th July 2017, 06:48 AM
In all fairness though, it's the 4th single from Olly's album. It would never have even been playlisted by Capital or Radio 1 or done anywhere near as well if it didn't feature Louisa.
IMO she's a welcomed addition to the song, I think she sounds incredible on it.
Posted by: Bjork 4th July 2017, 08:11 AM
Louisa has released good songs but she needs a Bleeding Love/Halo kinda song... they should really fish for bigger fish... they clearly have invested $$$, judging by the huge amount of payola invested to put Best Behaviour on all Spotify playlists... but still at the end of the day, the songs are just ok, same with Unpredictable...
Posted by: Karma 4th July 2017, 09:53 AM
Summed up really, killer song and she'll nail it.
Also re Unpredictable she definitely brought something to the song for sure. It's a nice song, but just nice - it isn't a massive hit.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 4th July 2017, 10:46 AM
Don't think they are performing on This Morning.
I'm still hopeful it can go top 20 if it gets moved higher on Hot Hits and A listed on Radio 1.
Posted by: Marty 4th July 2017, 06:56 PM
I'm still hopeful it can go top 20 if it gets moved higher on Hot Hits and A listed on Radio 1.
They were on This Morning today! Got a small iTunes bump.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 4th July 2017, 10:33 PM
Sadly they didn't perform though.
I thought they were having a tennis battle with Philip and Holly but that didn't happen either, although a swig ball was set up judging by Olly's insta!
I'm just so glad it's definitely making the top 40. It's been pretty successful considering it is the 4th single.
Posted by: 360Jupiter 4th July 2017, 10:54 PM
Agree, they should just put her on a bigger song.
Even on XF the focus was always the fact that she could sing like Christina Aguilera. Yet out she comes into the pop world and they're giving her Cheryl Cole level solo material for her singles. Decent poppy tunes, but not saying anything about her or even requiring her particular skills or talents to sing them. Can you imagine Leona winning XF and then coming out to release that kind of caliber of thing as her solo material??
Having said that I do quite like this as a pop song. It's not the kind of thing I could see any of the big-voiced pop girls doing - which is who Louisa should be aiming for (!), but it's a cute track.
Posted by: pippa 5th July 2017, 06:57 PM
It is now looking good that Unpredictable will finally arrive in the top 40 this week. Midweeks today are showing it at number 31.
Posted by: pippa 5th July 2017, 06:57 PM
It is now looking good that Unpredictable will finally arrive in the top 40 this week. Midweeks today are showing it at number 31.
Posted by: pippa 7th July 2017, 07:40 PM
Unpredictable finally cracks the top 40 this week making it to number 32.
Posted by: ThePensmith 11th July 2017, 10:58 AM
Olly's 18th UK top 40 hit in eight years. Atta lad. Up to #5 on UK radio airplay this week as well!
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 11th July 2017, 11:40 AM
Started to fall on iTunes now.
Such a shame was hoping it'd at least crack the top 25/30 😩
Posted by: pippa 11th July 2017, 01:33 PM
If it achieves a 2nd week within the top 40 it would be wonderful, but, after such a slow climb I am delighted it went on to become Olly's 18th Top 40 hit.
Posted by: danG 11th July 2017, 01:37 PM
Song would've been number 41 if not for ACR. They must be happy about those new chart rules.
Posted by: ThePensmith 20th July 2017, 01:20 PM
Olly's said today in an interview with Metro that there won't be anymore singles from '24 HRS' and that he is taking a break after the tour finishes to travel: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/20/olly-murs-to-take-a-break-from-music-to-go-travelling-im-going-backpacking-6793244/
I had a feeling this sort of announcement was coming, but it still makes me really sad 
I just hope he doesn't leave it long until album 6.
Posted by: Shaphne 20th July 2017, 01:23 PM
I think he needs a break tbh. He's released all his albums in fairly quick succession and that might be a factor to him not doing so well anymore.
Posted by: pippa 20th July 2017, 01:47 PM
He really deserves a break as he has been going non stop since he participated on X Factor. I would hope the break isn't too long as sometimes acts who take an extended break are forgotten about.
Now, i believe, would be the the right time to release a Greatest Hits in Q4. He has more than enough hits to release a very stable collection that could do reasonably well in the charts for him and help kepe his name out there.
Posted by: Shaphne 20th July 2017, 02:02 PM
That kinda defeats the point of a break thoough. People aren't going to suddenly forgrt him if he takes a good few months out.
Posted by: 360Jupiter 20th July 2017, 05:01 PM
A break probably means calling it a day unless there's huge demand for a comeback tour. Pop is still very judgemental on age. I'm not surprised he's been releasing at such a breakneck pace either, strike while the iron's hot. He wasn't so young when he started out either.
Posted by: Shaphne 20th July 2017, 05:43 PM
He's hardly limping around on a walker and despite not doing as well as he once did, he is still selling fairly well.
Posted by: ros 20th July 2017, 06:40 PM
I agree. When he stacked up all the tour dates in the last year I suspected he was giving it one last enormous push to maximise earnings. It's been quite a struggle for all his singles from his last album, he's had to do a huge amount of promoting, never off the TV and the price reductions have kicked in pretty much as soon as they came out. Radio's been very kind to him considering the poor charting which hasn't matched the AirPlay. So I'd suspect he'd have an even harder time returning to pop with new music at 34/35 years old.
But I still suspect there's a greatest hits coming along very soon.
Posted by: ThePensmith 20th July 2017, 07:20 PM
But I still suspect there's a greatest hits coming along very soon.
Rubbish to all of that re: age. Take That were in their late 30s/early 40s when they came back and had three of their biggest selling albums and several number one singles. Olly still has huge appeal and a very loyal fanbase - the crowds at this current tour confirm that alone.
Posted by: Shaphne 20th July 2017, 07:51 PM
Cher was 105 when she released Believe too remember.
Posted by: ros 20th July 2017, 08:35 PM
There's no denying people will turn up to see him, it's carefree catchy pop, but surely you didn't think he's got the appeal of Take That in their heyday?!
Posted by: Shaphne 20th July 2017, 08:39 PM
He's got more tbh. He pays his taxes.
Posted by: ThePensmith 20th July 2017, 08:55 PM
I never said that so don't put words in my mouth, they're two completely different acts. I was merely using Take That as an example of an older pop act having big success at an advanced stage of their career. As has been said at 33 he is hardly geriatric and if anything has more energy than some acts that are barely out of their teens.
Posted by: ros 20th July 2017, 09:14 PM
No need to be so defensive about him, of course they're different acts. Take That have been huge twice, though obviously dying down a lot now. Their big return was helped by pure nostalgia and a recipe of anthemic tunes. The fact is that he is getting older, he's having to work much much harder to keep things going and he can't work at that pace forever. If he takes as much as a year off I'll be amazed.
Posted by: Saenerys 20th July 2017, 10:08 PM
Would we agree he's a household name? I don't see anything wrong with taking a break and then coming back with a Greatest Hits and going on the back of that to release new material similar to Kelly Clarkson (2012 GH, 2013 album and then early 2015 album). It would definitely give him a break which he needs and the chance for the people to get behind him with the songs they love.
Posted by: Liаm 20th July 2017, 10:47 PM
Nothing to do with Unpredictable but this is the greatest thing I have ever seen in my life
Posted by: Jonjo 20th July 2017, 10:59 PM
I agree with Sean tbh. I believe he is in a similar position to Kelly Clarkson in all honesty. A break would do him good. Come back with a greatest hits (to remind people of his songs etc..) and then release a studio album soon after.
Posted by: Liаm 20th July 2017, 11:08 PM
Yeah I agree though, a break is hardly going to kill his career. People are here for him in general because he's quite down to earth, likeable, a good performer and works hard for his successes, I think a break is a good idea. He certainly deserves one tbh
Posted by: ros 21st July 2017, 10:12 AM
I agree with Sean tbh. I believe he is in a similar position to Kelly Clarkson in all honesty. A break would do him good. Come back with a greatest hits (to remind people of his songs etc..) and then release a studio album soon after.
You're right, I am a Will fan. Will's in a different league to him though.
I don't agree with you about Olly Murs being like Kelly Clarkson (comparing him to Take That and Kelly Clarkson is extremely flattering and more than he deserves) - she is a proper singer and that is always appreciated by people who like music, but Olly Murs isn't, he's at the karaoke end of entertainment for me.
Posted by: Shaphne 21st July 2017, 10:33 AM
I don't agree with you about Olly Murs being like Kelly Clarkson (comparing him to Take That and Kelly Clarkson is extremely flattering and more than he deserves) - she is a proper singer and that is always appreciated by people who like music, but Olly Murs isn't, he's at the karaoke end of entertainment for me.
You're just making tourself look silly now. There is NO WAY Olly would have had 4 album sell near or over a million copies if he wasn't appreciated by music fans.
Posted by: ros 21st July 2017, 11:14 AM
Rubbish. I've never said he's not popular if you read back. I just question their taste!
Posted by: Shaphne 21st July 2017, 11:18 AM
You said he isn't appreciated by people who like music. If he wasn't appreciated then he wouldn't be popular. You also said he wasn't a proper singer, even though he got his start the exact same way as Kelly, and Will.
Posted by: ros 21st July 2017, 11:41 AM
You misunderstand me I'm afraid. There are plenty of artists that you may not be a fan of (in terms of liking practically everything about them and following all they do) but you can recognise they are talented singers. Kelly Clarkson for me is one. She's an excellent singer and is always capable of singing a song you think is very very good. Thats about the singing. Olly Murs recognises himself he's not the greatest singer (far from it). He concentrates on entertainment value, catchy songs, energy, doing things to be "popular". It's clear that this approach has worked very well for him, but as I've said it takes a huge amount of effort and the signs are as he gets older, the same as most pop artists, interest naturally reduces. His sales are not what they were and his singles this time haven't done that well. Yes he has done loads of touring and lots of people go to see him for a good night out. When he releases his greatest hits (coming soon I reckon) no doubt it will do well as plenty of people will want a set of his ditties.
He may have entered the industry in a similar way to Will and he may have done a lot of copying of Will in his time but they are so different people/ artists its pointless to compare them.
Posted by: Shaphne 21st July 2017, 11:57 AM
He entered in the exact same way as Will. He might not have the voice of someone like Josh Groban but he can still sing, very capably. He has talent. He makes catchy songs but that doesn't automatically make him any less of a "real" singer than Kelly Clarkson (who has her fair share of catchy pop songs) EVERY singer wants to entertain their fans, through the songs, the videos, the performances.
You're so focussed on using Kelly as an example so i will too.
She has a huge bubbly and likeable personality. So does Olly.
She came through a reality show. So did Olly. Sure he didn't win, but he's made a name for himself and proved that you don't need to win to have a successful career.
She releases catchy songs. So does Olly. They both have successful ballady type songs too. You don't need a Celine Dion type voice to pull one off. Olly's ballads are gorgeous, as are Kelly's.
Both have a great set of videos for their songs. Both put on a great show on tour etc. Different kind of show granted, but no less entertaining.
I also fail to see how Olly copied Will Will is nothing original to begin with.
Posted by: pippa 21st July 2017, 12:55 PM
I understand the 2 points in these discussions. I am a big Olly fan, as a singer he is limited, in many ways the same as Robbie Williams. However, he makes up this shortfall by been an entertaining performer. Some artists, Leona Lewis a strong example, has a much superior voice but is a much inferior entertainer.
Olly has always played to his strengths and this is the reason he has built up an impressive career. His most recent album and singles have done ok but not as strong as his previous albums and singles. That said, he is no different to any other artists who didn't come the reality show route. Very few sustain million plus selling albums and platinum selling singles, 5 albums into their career. Will Young was far less successful than Olly when comparing their most recent releases but Will like Olly has had a strong career. Both have passed their peak but both are still able to sell music and tours and grab tv slots and appearances with ease. All in all, both have done very well since their made their debut on Pop Idol and X Factor respectively.
I do see Olly eventually heading for a TV or radio career and he will pull further away from music. I do believe (or hope) he will continue to release albums but it will be on a far greater sporadic level than what we are used to.
Posted by: 360Jupiter 21st July 2017, 01:04 PM
I just was doubting that Olly is the level of huge that will retain a fanbase if he comes back quite soon after a break. It wouldn't be the same as a band like Take That who were huge when very young, took a long break/breakup, and came back as older men to gain a new fanbase. Or likewise for Madonna, Cher, Kylie, any of that crowd. For starters he's never been as big. He's had the might of X Factor and Syco behind him as their flagship act, but Syco have shown themselves for years to be fickle with retaining stars and quick to move on to the next one to try and capture the young market they seem to want to play for.
Yes, he's had a lot of solo success...based on being one of the few X Factor success stories, with consistent results, with lots of promo on Cowell-owned shows. There aren't yet any X Factor legacy acts to compare with. Leona's stratospheric success on both sides of the pond didn't stop her from being sidelined by the label the minute she started having diminishing returns. Record companies are fickle.
Olly hasn't established himself as an older man yet. Perhaps he will be able to, but he's been playing on the same image for seven years now. If he takes an extended break, if or when he launches a comeback he'll be in uncharted territory. Will the public - and importantly, the label? - still be invested in him? It completely depends if they'll support him or not. I just feel it's hard to judge that, especially given the fact that no other act from the X Factor has managed to do it yet.
Posted by: Liаm 21st July 2017, 01:04 PM
I don't see how he's copied or is remotely like Will at all, becasue he dared to release a ballad once and also came from a talent show? Can no male release a ballad without it copying Will? That's the only remote Will comparison or """""copy""""""" i can think of. Will has a whiny irritating voice to my ears, it's subjective, he is hardly some sort of innovative pop god with an incomparable voice. Olly doesn't have to be Whitney or Celine in order to make music, as fab as singers like that are if everyone was like the industry would be boring. Some people just want a nice fun pop song delivered by a nice fun person, it doesn't have to be psychoanalysed or be a big deal, he just is whatever he is.
Posted by: Shaphne 21st July 2017, 01:27 PM
Yes, he's had a lot of solo success...based on being one of the few X Factor success stories, with consistent results, with lots of promo on Cowell-owned shows. There aren't yet any X Factor legacy acts to compare with. Leona's stratospheric success on both sides of the pond didn't stop her from being sidelined by the label the minute she started having diminishing returns. Record companies are fickle.
Olly hasn't established himself as an older man yet. Perhaps he will be able to, but he's been playing on the same image for seven years now. If he takes an extended break, if or when he launches a comeback he'll be in uncharted territory. Will the public - and importantly, the label? - still be invested in him? It completely depends if they'll support him or not. I just feel it's hard to judge that, especially given the fact that no other act from the X Factor has managed to do it yet.
BECAUSE HE'S NOT AN OLDER MAN. He's barely in his 30's, that's not evne middle aged. As for his image, there's nothing wrong with it. It suits him and he has never looke dlike someone trying to be younger than he is.
If he can pull it off (and he does) then why change it? It's the same thing with the likes of Kylie or J-Lo. Just because both are nearly 50, it doesn't mean they need to cover up and dress like loveless widows. They both looks incredible for their age and can easily pull off the looks they go for,
Regarding his label etc. Let's be real here, his most unsuccessful album still went plantinum. Most acts would kill for an album doing that well. It might not be as good as what he once had, but it's hardly cause for alarm.
Posted by: Marty 21st July 2017, 01:54 PM
Syco always positioned Olly as a Robbie Williams Mk2. A cheeky chap, not particularly gifted, but given the right material is totally able to put a song across well and with some charm. I see no reason why that plan cant continue for years to come. Maybe his star will wane a little but he remains a likeable character, very hardworking and with a fairly strong fan base.
I dont see the point comparing to Will Young.
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 21st July 2017, 05:51 PM
Nice to see it just sticking with a second week in the top 40.
24 hours has still sold incredibly well, I have no idea why people are questioning his sales. It was always obvious he was going to become more of a album artist.
Posted by: ros 21st July 2017, 05:54 PM
I dont see the point comparing to Will Young.
There isn't any point. His name only came up as someone decided my comments should be ignored by an Olly stan as I was a Will fan.
I hope he enjoys his backpacking - just as Will does. I agree with your comments about Olly. No one should kid themselves that he has some great natural talent. He's a pretty ordinary guy who has got (and complied with) an extraordinary push through the Cowell sausage machine, loads of investment, XF and BGT exposure yearly at peak selling time, opportunities second to none supporting bigger acts at home and abroad, radio airplay and promo that should have him selling Ed Sheeran quantities. Added to that he's made the most of the opportunities pushed his way, slogged his guts out, but he's in diminishing returns now as he gets older without a doubt.
He's talking about other projects possibly because he realises that the general public need a break from him. If you never leave the stage you can sicken people by overexposure and I think that's where he's got to now.
Posted by: Shaphne 21st July 2017, 06:16 PM
I hope he enjoys his backpacking - just as Will does. I agree with your comments about Olly. No one should kid themselves that he has some great natural talent. He's a pretty ordinary guy who has got (and complied with) an extraordinary push through the Cowell sausage machine, loads of investment, XF and BGT exposure yearly at peak selling time, opportunities second to none supporting bigger acts at home and abroad, radio airplay and promo that should have him selling Ed Sheeran quantities. Added to that he's made the most of the opportunities pushed his way, slogged his guts out, but he's in diminishing returns now as he gets older without a doubt.
He's talking about other projects possibly because he realises that the general public need a break from him. If you never leave the stage you can sicken people by overexposure and I think that's where he's got to now.
That is complete bullshit. He is a very talented singer and writer. Plenty of acts get good promo oppertunities, it's not just him. I really don't know what you've got against him. Will got plenty of good oppertunties too, difference being that after a short time, it failed for him. Whereas Olly can still get top 20 singles and Platinum albums. The public likes him.
He gets airplay because radio want to play his songs. And there are other acts who get more exposure but who don't do anywhere near as well as Olly.
He might actually just.....want a break
shoot him now tbh. How dare he. There's not always a hidden meaning. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to try other things. Jennifer Lopez is an actress, dancer, producer and businesswoman and does well at it, why shouldn't Olly try things that interest him?TBH you just sound bitter because Olly can get spots on Strictly to perform but precious Will can only get there as a contestant (before giving up when it gets too hard)
Posted by: ros 21st July 2017, 06:46 PM
He gets airplay because radio want to play his songs. And there are other acts who get more exposure but who don't do anywhere near as well as Olly.
He might actually just.....want a break
shoot him now tbh. How dare he. There's not always a hidden meaning. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to try other things. Jennifer Lopez is an actress, dancer, producer and businesswoman and does well at it, why shouldn't Olly try things that interest him?TBH you just sound bitter because Olly can get spots on Strictly to perform but precious Will can only get there as a contestant (before giving up when it gets too hard)
And TBH I might think your comments are complete bullshit too! 😂 But I really can't get my knickers in a twist over it. You go on believing what you want.
Posted by: cq(uavo)merqn 21st July 2017, 06:50 PM
How old is that?
Posted by: 360Jupiter 21st July 2017, 10:08 PM
I know he isn't 'an older man'. But if he takes a few years out and comes back aged 36 or 37, he will be, in terms of the pop world where the main target market is teens and 20s, and where a 'young' man is some 18 year old like Shawn Mendes. Older doesn't mean old.
All I meant is that he won't be able to target as broad a market as a potential heartthrob and someone whose music you can follow while also having a crush on. He can still target existing fans, and would do, and people closer to his own age bracket, and maybe that would be enough to see the same levels of success. But it would be a difference.
For the record I don't know a whole lot about Will Young's music career either.
Posted by: Liаm 21st July 2017, 11:00 PM
I have no idea tbh
Posted by: Shaphne 21st July 2017, 11:25 PM
All I meant is that he won't be able to target as broad a market as a potential heartthrob and someone whose music you can follow while also having a crush on. He can still target existing fans, and would do, and people closer to his own age bracket, and maybe that would be enough to see the same levels of success. But it would be a difference.
For the record I don't know a whole lot about Will Young's music career either.
Why? Men over 30 can still be heartthrobs and I seriously doubt Olly will lose his looks in the space of a few years. People are still going to want to rip his clothes off and sit on his face whether he's 26 or 36.
Posted by: Jandeep 22nd July 2017, 04:47 PM
He has 5 successful albums, loads of singles and tours. If he goes away for a couple of years and comes back then he will have some success he has earned his stripes to get lifelong support on radio 2 and comercial stations. He will become what robbie williams is now career wise.
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 22nd July 2017, 08:49 PM
If olly takes a break and comes back with a strong lead single he could match the success of his 24 hrs album I think.
Good to see unpredictable get its third week top 40 this week although I had hoped to see the album back in the top 100 by now.
Posted by: -SCOTT- 24th July 2017, 09:02 AM
Olly has a song with Kungs coming out next month
Posted by: ThePensmith 24th July 2017, 05:03 PM
He does indeed! I shall look forward to hearing that as I know he's expressed a desire to do a dance track for some time now. I quite liked 'This Girl' by Kungs when it came out last year so that style would suit him down to a tee.
Posted by: pippa 24th July 2017, 07:08 PM
I have always preferred his more upbeat songs. I do believe a dance track would really suit him, it is also a different direction for him.
Posted by: zenon 29th July 2017, 04:56 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Unpredictable resembles Tegan and Sara's 'I Was a Fool'? Listen to when the titles of both songs are sung out and you'll know I mean.
Posted by: pippa 4th August 2017, 06:25 PM
Unpredictable has remained top 40 yet again this week. It has managed to hold a good chart.
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