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post Sep 9 2009, 09:59 PM
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For the last however many weeks, we have had a different number 1 single each week. What is the record for different number one's in each year? How many are we upto this year and do you think we might break the record? I reckon Madonna will be no1 next week and there are some big releases coming up in October which could be further 1 weekers.
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:06 PM
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I really hate 1 week number 1s, it makes getting a #1 become devalued as record companies play music chairs with release dates - ultimately in 2000 - getting a #1 meant pretty much nothing. Even "Bag It Up" manson.gif made it.

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845 22 Jan Manic Street Preachers The Masses Against The Classes 1
846 29 Jan Britney Spears Born To Make You Happy 1
847 05 Feb Gabrielle Rise 2
848 19 Feb Oasis Go Let It Out 1
849 26 Feb All Saints Pure Shores 2
850 11 Mar Madonna American Pie 1
851 18 Mar Chicane / Bryan Adams Don't Give Up 1
852 25 Mar Geri Halliwell Bag It Up 1
853 01 Apr Melanie C / Lisa Left Eye Lopes Never Be The Same Again 1
854 08 Apr Westlife Fool Again 1
855 15 Apr Craig David Fill Me In 1
856 22 Apr Fragma Toca's Miracle 2
857 06 May Oxide & Neutrino Bound 4 Da reload (Casualty) 1
858 13 May Britney Spears Oops!...I Did It Again 1
859 20 May Madison Avenue Don't Call Me Baby 1
860 27 May Billie Piper Day & Night 1
861 03 Jun Sonique It Feels So Good 3
862 24 Jun Black Legend You See The Trouble With Me 1
863 01 Jul Kylie Minogue Spinning Around 1
864 08 Jul Eminem The Real Slim Shady 1
865 15 Jul Corrs Breathless 1
866 22 Jul Ronan Keating Life Is A Rollercoaster 1
867 29 Jul Five / Queen We Will Rock You 1
868 05 Aug Craig David 7 Days 1
869 12 Aug Robbie Williams Rock DJ 1
870 19 Aug Melanie C I Turn To You 1
871 26 Aug Spiller Groovejet (If This Ain't Love) 1
872 02 Sep Madonna Music 1
873 09 Sep A1 Take On Me 1
874 16 Sep Modjo Lady (Hear Me Tonight) 2
875 30 Sep Mariah Carey & Westlife Against All Odds 2
876 14 Oct All Saints Black Coffee 1
877 21 Oct U2 Beautiful Day 1
878 28 Oct Steps Stomp 1
879 04 Nov Spice Girls Holler / Let Love Lead The Way 1
880 11 Nov Westlife My Love 1
881 18 Nov A1 Same Old Brand New You 1
882 24 Nov LeAnn Rimes Can't Fight The Moonlight 1
883 02 Dec Destiny's Child Independent Women Part 1 1
884 09 Dec S Club 7 Never Had A Dream Come True 1
885 16 Dec Eminem Stan 1
886 23 Dec Bob The Builder Can We Fix It? 3


There were 42 number 1s that year - we can't break that record this year (thankfully).


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post Sep 9 2009, 10:07 PM
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Without counting Alexandra Burke we are on Record 21 at #1, that's if Pixie goes to #1

The record is 42 in year 2000


So no the record won't be beaten, as Leona will probably get 2-3 weeks down the line.

On top of that I hate weekly turnovers
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Sep 9 2009, 11:06 PM) *
I really hate 1 week number 1s, it makes getting a #1 become devalued as record companies play music chairs with release dates - ultimately in 2000 - getting a #1 meant pretty much nothing. Even "Bag It Up" manson.gif made it.

CODE
845 22 Jan Manic Street Preachers The Masses Against The Classes 1
846 29 Jan Britney Spears Born To Make You Happy 1
847 05 Feb Gabrielle Rise 2
848 19 Feb Oasis Go Let It Out 1
849 26 Feb All Saints Pure Shores 2
850 11 Mar Madonna American Pie 1
851 18 Mar Chicane / Bryan Adams Don't Give Up 1
852 25 Mar Geri Halliwell Bag It Up 1
853 01 Apr Melanie C / Lisa Left Eye Lopes Never Be The Same Again 1
854 08 Apr Westlife Fool Again 1
855 15 Apr Craig David Fill Me In 1
856 22 Apr Fragma Toca's Miracle 2
857 06 May Oxide & Neutrino Bound 4 Da reload (Casualty) 1
858 13 May Britney Spears Oops!...I Did It Again 1
859 20 May Madison Avenue Don't Call Me Baby 1
860 27 May Billie Piper Day & Night 1
861 03 Jun Sonique It Feels So Good 3
862 24 Jun Black Legend You See The Trouble With Me 1
863 01 Jul Kylie Minogue Spinning Around 1
864 08 Jul Eminem The Real Slim Shady 1
865 15 Jul Corrs Breathless 1
866 22 Jul Ronan Keating Life Is A Rollercoaster 1
867 29 Jul Five / Queen We Will Rock You 1
868 05 Aug Craig David 7 Days 1
869 12 Aug Robbie Williams Rock DJ 1
870 19 Aug Melanie C I Turn To You 1
871 26 Aug Spiller Groovejet (If This Ain't Love) 1
872 02 Sep Madonna Music 1
873 09 Sep A1 Take On Me 1
874 16 Sep Modjo Lady (Hear Me Tonight) 2
875 30 Sep Mariah Carey & Westlife Against All Odds 2
876 14 Oct All Saints Black Coffee 1
877 21 Oct U2 Beautiful Day 1
878 28 Oct Steps Stomp 1
879 04 Nov Spice Girls Holler / Let Love Lead The Way 1
880 11 Nov Westlife My Love 1
881 18 Nov A1 Same Old Brand New You 1
882 24 Nov LeAnn Rimes Can't Fight The Moonlight 1
883 02 Dec Destiny's Child Independent Women Part 1 1
884 09 Dec S Club 7 Never Had A Dream Come True 1
885 16 Dec Eminem Stan 1
886 23 Dec Bob The Builder Can We Fix It? 3


There were 42 number 1s that year - we can't break that record this year (thankfully).


Tbh I think that was a great time for music - 2/3 of those number one's I don't begrudge at all. But I'm glad that we won't break the record this year.
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:14 PM
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It was a great time for music I agree. I'm not saying every number 1 should spend more than a week at the top, but to have 42 number 1s in one year was just taking the p***.
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:15 PM
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Lily Allen holds the record for most weeks at #1 this year, total 4 weeks, no other act has had 4 weeks or more.

Singles


1087 17 Jan Lady GaGa featuring Colby O’Donis Just Dance 3wks
1088 07 Feb Lily Allen The Fear 4wks
1089 07 Mar Kelly Clarkson My Life Would Suck Without You¡ 1wk
1090 14 Mar Flo Rida featuring Ke$ha Right Round 1wk
1091 21 Mar Vanessa Jenkins & Bryn West featuring Sir Tom Jones & Robin Gibb Barry Islands In The Stream 1wk
1092 28 Mar Lady GaGa Poker Face 3wks
1093 18 Apr Calvin Harris I’m Not Alone 2wks
1094 02 May Tinchy Stryder featuring N-Dubz Number 1 3wks
1095 23 May The Black Eyed Peas Boom Boom Pow 1wk
1096 30 May Dizzee Rascal & Armand Van Helden Bonkers 2wks
RE 13 Jun The Black Eyed Peas Boom Boom Pow 1wk
1097 20 Jun Pixie Lott Mama Do (Uh Oh, Uh Oh) 1wk
1098 27 Jun David Guetta featuring Kelly Rowland When Love Takes Over 1wk
1099 04 Jul La Roux Bulletproof 1wk
1100 11 Jul Cascada Evacuate The Dancefloor 2wks
1101 25 Jul JLS Beat Again 2wks
1102 08 Aug The Black Eyed Peas I Gotta Feelin’ 1wk
1103 15 Aug Tinchy Stryder featuring Amelle Never Leave You 1wk
RE 22 Aug The Black Eyed Peas I Gotta Feelin’ 1wk
1104 29 Aug David Guetta featuring Akon Sexy Bitch 1wk
1105 05 Sep Dizzee Rascal Holiday 1wk
1106 12 Sep Jay-Z featuring Rihanna & Kanye West Run This Town 1wk
1107 19 Sep Pixie Lott Boys And Girls



Albums

RE 17 Jan Kings Of Leon – Only By The Night 1wk
RE 24 Jan The Script – The Script 1wk
861 31 Jan White Lies – To Lose My Life 1wk
862 07 Feb Bruce Springsteen – Working On A Dream 2wks
863 21 Feb Lily Allen – It’s Not Me It’s You 1wk
RE 28 Feb Kings Of Leon – Only By The Night 1wk
864 07 Feb The Prodigy Invaders Must Die 1wk
865 14 Feb U2 – No Line On The Horizon 2wks
866 21 Feb Ronan Keating – Songs For My Mother 2wks
867 11 Apr Lady GaGa – The Fame 4wks
868 09 May Bob Dylan – Together Through Life 2wks
869 23 May Green Day – 21st Century Breakdown 1wk
870 30 May Eminem – Relapse 2wks
871 14 Jun Paolo Nutini – Sunny Side Up 1wk
872 21 Jun Kasabian – West Rider Pauper Lunatic Asylum 2wks
RE 04 Jul Michael Jackson – Number Ones 1wk
873 11 Jul Michael Jackson – The Essential 7wks
874 29 Aug Calvin Harris – Ready For The Weekend 1wk
875 05 Sep Arctic Monkeys – Humbug 2wks so far...

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post Sep 9 2009, 10:16 PM
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Well I'm unsure why this pattern of 'one weekers' has returned after the very long runs at #1 last year.
So many of the tracks this year have been undeserving no1s.
I'm glad the record won't be broken though.
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:23 PM
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The reason for it is record companies have started using the same techniques used in the physical era:

* Holding back digital release to build up demand = maximise first week sales.
* Moving release dates around to avoid competition, giving both acts that were competing 1 week each at the top.
* Holding back album release until 2 singles have been released to give both a chance at the top spot, and prevent the second single losing sales from cherrypicking.

I have to say, I think singles should be released to download as soon as they are sent to radio, having a song on the radio but not being able to download is absolutely disgusting behavior from record companies - how can they expect consumers to resist illegally downloading it? I'm sorry but it's much easier to release a song digitally than physically and this really annoys me sometimes!
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post Sep 10 2009, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE(Mikey @ Sep 9 2009, 11:07 PM) *
The record is 42 in year 2000
So no the record won't be beaten, as Leona will probably get 2-3 weeks down the line.

On top of that I hate weekly turnovers


Of course, nowadays songs don't usually vanish rapidly after a single week at the top, as they did in 2000.

Because people know they don't have to buy a song immediately to get a price discount, or to avoid missing out because supplies have run dry, I can't see sales ever getting as front-loaded as they were in the 90's & early 00's. With that being the case, I can't see a return to a situation where instant #1's are inevitable, since album-track downloads can force a popular song to chart early regardless of record compamy wishes. Also, opportunistic covers have sometimes forced their hand, too.
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post Sep 10 2009, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Sep 9 2009, 11:23 PM) *
The reason for it is record companies have started using the same techniques used in the physical era:

* Holding back digital release to build up demand = maximise first week sales.
* Moving release dates around to avoid competition, giving both acts that were competing 1 week each at the top.
* Holding back album release until 2 singles have been released to give both a chance at the top spot, and prevent the second single losing sales from cherrypicking.

I have to say, I think singles should be released to download as soon as they are sent to radio, having a song on the radio but not being able to download is absolutely disgusting behavior from record companies - how can they expect consumers to resist illegally downloading it? I'm sorry but it's much easier to release a song digitally than physically and this really annoys me sometimes!


all of this

plus raising the price of most downloads from 79p to 99p on the second week as they used to do with CD's from £2.99 to £3.99
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post Sep 10 2009, 06:41 AM
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post Sep 10 2009, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(gooddelta @ Sep 10 2009, 07:33 AM) *
all of this

plus raising the price of most downloads from 79p to 99p on the second week as they used to do with CD's from £2.99 to £3.99


Can't say I've noticed that, but if it's an iTunes-only thing then I wouldn't. In any case, a 20p rise is far less likely to deter people than a £1 rise.
Also, there are no shortage of alternative sites.
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post Sep 10 2009, 07:22 AM
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I nearly always buy downloads on the first week of release and from iTunes and many of them definitely rise by 20p after the first week...hardly a groundbreaking difference, but mentally to me it is as I begrudge paying 99p for a single song that Amazon could very well be selling for 29p
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post Sep 10 2009, 08:12 AM
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I have to say i disagree with some of the comments on here and that i prefer the fact that record companies are holding digital release to maximise the demnad for the track because it is giving big first week sales which is helping the overall effect on the chart and gradually we are seeing more new entries in the chart, I always found it boring letting a track then then watching it climb over a long period.

What I do think is outrageous is itunes increasing the price of some downloads to 99p when if im going to pay that price i would rather own a CD but that might just be me!!!!
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post Sep 10 2009, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(1Dave2006 @ Sep 10 2009, 09:12 AM) *
I have to say i disagree with some of the comments on here and that i prefer the fact that record companies are holding digital release to maximise the demnad for the track because it is giving big first week sales which is helping the overall effect on the chart and gradually we are seeing more new entries in the chart, I always found it boring letting a track then then watching it climb over a long period.

What I do think is outrageous is itunes increasing the price of some downloads to 99p when if im going to pay that price i would rather own a CD but that might just be me!!!!

IMO, it's quite more interesting too see songs climb their way to #1 or lower. I was thrilled about the likes of 'Poker Face' and 'Paparazzi' to see where will they peak. And for me, sales are often more important than chart positions.


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post Sep 10 2009, 10:29 AM
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You make a great point about record companies now using their nefarious sales tactics on the digital market. Ever since the mid-90s they've got worse and worse.
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Sep 10 2009, 07:11 AM) *
Of course, nowadays songs don't usually vanish rapidly after a single week at the top, as they did in 2000.

Because people know they don't have to buy a song immediately to get a price discount, or to avoid missing out because supplies have run dry, I can't see sales ever getting as front-loaded as they were in the 90's & early 00's. With that being the case, I can't see a return to a situation where instant #1's are inevitable, since album-track downloads can force a popular song to chart early regardless of record compamy wishes. Also, opportunistic covers have sometimes forced their hand, too.

Very interesting point, particularly in comparison to the US market - and a case in hand - Leona's "Happy" is going to American Radio 21st September and iTunes 15th September, so basically an almost simultaneous radio/digital release - whereas in the UK, its already getting radio play and isn't released until 8th/9th November! wink.gif
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(1Dave2006 @ Sep 10 2009, 09:12 AM) *
I have to say i disagree with some of the comments on here and that i prefer the fact that record companies are holding digital release to maximise the demnad for the track because it is giving big first week sales which is helping the overall effect on the chart and gradually we are seeing more new entries in the chart, I always found it boring letting a track then then watching it climb over a long period.

What I do think is outrageous is itunes increasing the price of some downloads to 99p when if im going to pay that price i would rather own a CD but that might just be me!!!!

I agree, although 1 wk No.1s constantly makes the chart (and the position of No.1) abit redundent. I would rather see a record chart at No.1 on sales of 80k+ then one that sails up the top 10 over a period of months and ends up getting to No.1 on a poor week with sales of 30K (songs like Neyo - Closer & Coldplay last year come to mind)
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post Sep 10 2009, 12:01 PM
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I'm not too keen on having a different Number 1 each week and I prefer songs having a chance to climb to the top. However I do think that the high turnover helps to keep sales up, and there's nothing worse than seeing a song lingering at the top for ages just because the market is weak - like when Umbrella was doing around 25K per week at Number 1 in the last few weeks of its reign.
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post Sep 10 2009, 03:45 PM
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I personally like the one-week #1s - it gives us a better variety or something to that effect.
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