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Posted by: Ne Plus Ultra 1st August 2016, 09:38 PM
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It's a position most pop stars would give their eye-teeth to be in, but for some acts, having a huge-selling album can be a bit of a burden. Oh, sure, you've been in the Official Albums Chart for 170 weeks and copies are flying off the shelves (remember shelves?), but in the back of their minds plays the mantra: "How do I follow this one?!"
For some stars, chucking out another smash hasn't been a problem at all, but some hit albums are so unique, such a one-off, successive releases can't help but be eclipsed by them.
We look back who scored massive albums that, so far, they haven't been able to match.
Duffy
Sometimes all it takes is a killer first single to really sell an album, and Duffy's Mercy took the charts by storm upon release in 2008. There was a feeling its parent album could be big, but few could have predicted just how huge Duffy's debut Rockferry would be. The album, which featured the writing and production talents of Bernard Butler, of Suede and McAlmont and Butler fame, was Number 1 for five weeks and sold over 2.2 million copies. It scored the Welsh star three BRIT Awards and a Grammy too.
All eyes were on follow-up Endlessly, which came along in 2008. Sadly, its lead single Well Well Well didn't have the same impact as Mercy, and a change in team meant that the sound hadn't been what fans had been expecting. The album reached Number 9 in the charts, but sold significantly less than its predecessor – 200,000 copies.
Mika
Nobody had ever seen a popstar like Mika before when he brought a splash of joy and colour to the charts with his debut major release Grace Kelly. After topping the BBC's The Sound Of poll, Mika looked unstoppable, and his eagerly anticipated debut album Life In Cartoon Motion went straight in at Number 1. Spending an incredible 32 weeks in the Top 10 and spawning four Top 10 singles, Live In Cartoon Motion has sold a whopping 1.66 million copies.
We had to wait two and half years for the follow-up, The Boy Who Knew Too Much – perhaps it was too long a wait for some. Its lead single We Are Golden hit Number 4, and the album did the same, selling 212,000 copies to date.
Mia hasn't given up, though – he's since scored two more Top 40 albums, The Origin Of Love (2012) and No Place In Heaven (2015).
Lauryn Hill
There are some bands where you can instantly spot a future star in the making, Fugees' Lauryn Hill certainly fit the bill. After two Number 1s with Fugees, including the million-selling Killing Me Softly from 1996, Lauryn went it alone. In 1998, she released her solo debut The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, to the delight of fans and critics, led by infectious toe-tapper Doo Wop (That Thing). The album didn't reach Number 1, but it did sell over a million copies, and everyone could hardly wait to see what she'd do next. And we're still waiting. Seriously.
There was an Unplugged album released from MTV sessions in 2002, but when it comes to a studio album of new material, Lauryn's not coming up with the goods. She has been concentrating on her family and has done some touring and contributed to soundtracks. Oh, and she went to prison for a while in 2013 for tax evasion, so it's not like she hasn't been busy.
Wilson Phillips
This American trio's first single Hold On was a worldwide smash in 1990, and their self-titled debut album went Top 10 and sold a reasonable 300,000 copies in the UK. But when you have a song as strong as Hold On, following it up is never going to be easy. While sophomore album Shadows And Light actually outpeaked its predecessor by one place, hitting Number 6, it lasted a mere four weeks in the Top 40, compared with the debut's 21 weeks. Wilson Phillips haven't had a charting album here since.
Terence Trent D'Arby
He had the looks, the voice and the moves, and in 1987, Terence Trent D'Arby had the world at his feet. Featuring three huge Top 10s, his debut album, the snappily titled Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby was a huge success. The LP spent 45 weeks in the Official Albums Chart Top 40, with 23 of those in the Top 10 alone, and nine of those at Number 1.
Such was Terence's world domination, you could be forgiven for thinking that subsequent releases would do just as well, but for whatever reason, later material didn't connect. Album number two, Neither Fish Nor Flesh, reached Number 12 and spent just three weeks in the Top 40 in 1989. 1993's third effort Symphony Or Damn did spend a week in the Top 10 and 1995's Vibrator just missed out – landing at Number 11.
Daniel Bedingfield
In 2001, Daniel Bedingfield appeared form nowhere with Gotta Get Thru This, a song he'd recorded in his bedroom. You could forgive pop cynics for thinking that would be that, but after another single, he finally found his groove with big ballad If You're Not The One, which helped propel his debut album, also called Gotta Get Thru This, to the Top 10. Then another ballad Never Leave Your Side gave him a third chart-topping single and before you know it, five singles in, the album is peaking at Number 2, thwarted only by Beyoncé's debut Dangerously In Love.
Gotta Get Thru This spent 65 weeks in the Top 40, of which 17 were in the Top 10, selling 1.63 million copies.
The follow-up, Second First Impression, entered and peaked at Number 8, spending just a week in the Top 10 and sold 275,000.
Natasha Bedingfield
Let's skip along to another branch of the Bedingfield family tree, shall we, to Daniel's sister Natasha. Unlike big bro, Natasha's debut single didn't peak at Number 1 – but her album did. Unwritten went straight in at the top in September 2004, staying there one week and notching up a total of 32 weeks in the Top 40. It sold over a million copies.
Things didn't quite pan out the same way for its successor, NB. Preceded by single I Wanna Have Your Babies, NB entered at Number 9, but had vacated the Top 40 within a fortnight. It did pop back later, for five more weeks, but after that… gone.
Ting Tings
Bouncing onto the pop scene with catchy major debut single That's Not My Name, Ting Tings soon had a hit on their hands with their first album. We Started Nothing certainly started something, going straight in at the top in 2008 and spending 23 weeks in the Top 40, but sometimes you need to follow a hit quickly. Ting Tings waited four years before releasing their sophomore effort Sounds From Nowheresville, which managed just a week in the Top 40 – peaking at Number 23 – before it disappeared completely.
For some stars, chucking out another smash hasn't been a problem at all, but some hit albums are so unique, such a one-off, successive releases can't help but be eclipsed by them.
We look back who scored massive albums that, so far, they haven't been able to match.
Duffy
Sometimes all it takes is a killer first single to really sell an album, and Duffy's Mercy took the charts by storm upon release in 2008. There was a feeling its parent album could be big, but few could have predicted just how huge Duffy's debut Rockferry would be. The album, which featured the writing and production talents of Bernard Butler, of Suede and McAlmont and Butler fame, was Number 1 for five weeks and sold over 2.2 million copies. It scored the Welsh star three BRIT Awards and a Grammy too.
All eyes were on follow-up Endlessly, which came along in 2008. Sadly, its lead single Well Well Well didn't have the same impact as Mercy, and a change in team meant that the sound hadn't been what fans had been expecting. The album reached Number 9 in the charts, but sold significantly less than its predecessor – 200,000 copies.
Mika
Nobody had ever seen a popstar like Mika before when he brought a splash of joy and colour to the charts with his debut major release Grace Kelly. After topping the BBC's The Sound Of poll, Mika looked unstoppable, and his eagerly anticipated debut album Life In Cartoon Motion went straight in at Number 1. Spending an incredible 32 weeks in the Top 10 and spawning four Top 10 singles, Live In Cartoon Motion has sold a whopping 1.66 million copies.
We had to wait two and half years for the follow-up, The Boy Who Knew Too Much – perhaps it was too long a wait for some. Its lead single We Are Golden hit Number 4, and the album did the same, selling 212,000 copies to date.
Mia hasn't given up, though – he's since scored two more Top 40 albums, The Origin Of Love (2012) and No Place In Heaven (2015).
Lauryn Hill
There are some bands where you can instantly spot a future star in the making, Fugees' Lauryn Hill certainly fit the bill. After two Number 1s with Fugees, including the million-selling Killing Me Softly from 1996, Lauryn went it alone. In 1998, she released her solo debut The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, to the delight of fans and critics, led by infectious toe-tapper Doo Wop (That Thing). The album didn't reach Number 1, but it did sell over a million copies, and everyone could hardly wait to see what she'd do next. And we're still waiting. Seriously.
There was an Unplugged album released from MTV sessions in 2002, but when it comes to a studio album of new material, Lauryn's not coming up with the goods. She has been concentrating on her family and has done some touring and contributed to soundtracks. Oh, and she went to prison for a while in 2013 for tax evasion, so it's not like she hasn't been busy.
Wilson Phillips
This American trio's first single Hold On was a worldwide smash in 1990, and their self-titled debut album went Top 10 and sold a reasonable 300,000 copies in the UK. But when you have a song as strong as Hold On, following it up is never going to be easy. While sophomore album Shadows And Light actually outpeaked its predecessor by one place, hitting Number 6, it lasted a mere four weeks in the Top 40, compared with the debut's 21 weeks. Wilson Phillips haven't had a charting album here since.
Terence Trent D'Arby
He had the looks, the voice and the moves, and in 1987, Terence Trent D'Arby had the world at his feet. Featuring three huge Top 10s, his debut album, the snappily titled Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby was a huge success. The LP spent 45 weeks in the Official Albums Chart Top 40, with 23 of those in the Top 10 alone, and nine of those at Number 1.
Such was Terence's world domination, you could be forgiven for thinking that subsequent releases would do just as well, but for whatever reason, later material didn't connect. Album number two, Neither Fish Nor Flesh, reached Number 12 and spent just three weeks in the Top 40 in 1989. 1993's third effort Symphony Or Damn did spend a week in the Top 10 and 1995's Vibrator just missed out – landing at Number 11.
Daniel Bedingfield
In 2001, Daniel Bedingfield appeared form nowhere with Gotta Get Thru This, a song he'd recorded in his bedroom. You could forgive pop cynics for thinking that would be that, but after another single, he finally found his groove with big ballad If You're Not The One, which helped propel his debut album, also called Gotta Get Thru This, to the Top 10. Then another ballad Never Leave Your Side gave him a third chart-topping single and before you know it, five singles in, the album is peaking at Number 2, thwarted only by Beyoncé's debut Dangerously In Love.
Gotta Get Thru This spent 65 weeks in the Top 40, of which 17 were in the Top 10, selling 1.63 million copies.
The follow-up, Second First Impression, entered and peaked at Number 8, spending just a week in the Top 10 and sold 275,000.
Natasha Bedingfield
Let's skip along to another branch of the Bedingfield family tree, shall we, to Daniel's sister Natasha. Unlike big bro, Natasha's debut single didn't peak at Number 1 – but her album did. Unwritten went straight in at the top in September 2004, staying there one week and notching up a total of 32 weeks in the Top 40. It sold over a million copies.
Things didn't quite pan out the same way for its successor, NB. Preceded by single I Wanna Have Your Babies, NB entered at Number 9, but had vacated the Top 40 within a fortnight. It did pop back later, for five more weeks, but after that… gone.
Ting Tings
Bouncing onto the pop scene with catchy major debut single That's Not My Name, Ting Tings soon had a hit on their hands with their first album. We Started Nothing certainly started something, going straight in at the top in 2008 and spending 23 weeks in the Top 40, but sometimes you need to follow a hit quickly. Ting Tings waited four years before releasing their sophomore effort Sounds From Nowheresville, which managed just a week in the Top 40 – peaking at Number 23 – before it disappeared completely.
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/one-hit-album-wonders-huge-albums-that-were-hard-acts-to-follow__15245/
Poor Duffy, Natasha, & Mika.
I get the feeling Emeli Sande may join this list if she doesn't hurry up soon.
Posted by: T Boy 1st August 2016, 09:44 PM
Duffy, Mika and the Bedingfield's second albums may not have set the world alight but most artists these days would kill for those album sales. Heck, they'd all be top 10 YTD this year.
Posted by: cqmerqn 1st August 2016, 10:10 PM
Loved Duffy!!
Posted by: ___∆___ 1st August 2016, 10:12 PM
I still LOVE Daniel Bedingfields 2nd album, so underrated.
Posted by: awardinary 1st August 2016, 10:15 PM
QUOTE(Ne Plus Ultra @ Aug 1 2016, 10:38 PM) 
Poor Duffy, Natasha, & Mika. I get the feeling Emeli Sande may join this list if she doesn't hurry up soon.
I get the feeling Emeli Sande may join this list if she doesn't hurry up soon.Emeli Sande is definitely overdue a new album.
The same is true of Bruno Mars in my opinion too.
Posted by: paulgilb 1st August 2016, 10:36 PM
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Sometimes all it takes is a killer first single to really sell an album, and Duffy's Mercy took the charts by storm upon release in 2008.
Mercy was her second single. Rockferry was the first (although not promoted nearly as much as Mercy).
Posted by: 777666jason 2nd August 2016, 08:16 AM
QUOTE(paulgilb @ Aug 1 2016, 11:36 PM)
Mercy was her second single. Rockferry was the first (although not promoted nearly as much as Mercy).
I always thought rockferry was a buzz/ promo single and didn't she re release it as a single later
Posted by: Bjork 2nd August 2016, 08:34 AM
QUOTE(awardinary @ Aug 2 2016, 12:15 AM)
Emeli Sande is definitely overdue a new album.
The same is true of Bruno Mars in my opinion too.
The same is true of Bruno Mars in my opinion too.
Bruno Mars? He has already had 2 hit albums so he's not gonna be a one-abum hit wonder
Posted by: T Boy 2nd August 2016, 09:03 AM
QUOTE(777666jason @ Aug 2 2016, 09:16 AM)
I always thought rockferry was a buzz/ promo single and didn't she re release it as a single later
That wasn't really a term back then. I thought it only got invented to cover Gaga's arse if she flopped.
I remember Edith Bowman playing Rockferry in 2007 and Duffy intrigued me. It then got quite regular AirPlay until early 2008 when, as always, focus goes on new artists and Mercy being the next single, it got played to death.
I love Duffy. Unpopular opinion: I still prefer her to Adele.
Posted by: Bjork 2nd August 2016, 10:18 AM
I think Rockferry the single was a "soft release", a first single released to generate interest but not properly pushed
A bit like Ellie Goulding Under the Sheets
Not sure why put Wilson Phillips in the list
Their debut was far from a megaseller
Sure they could find better examples
Posted by: JCM20 2nd August 2016, 12:12 PM
QUOTE(Bjork @ Aug 2 2016, 09:34 AM)
Bruno Mars? He has already had 2 hit albums so he's not gonna be a one-abum hit wonder
I think (s)he just meant Bruno is long overdue a new albun
Posted by: Bjork 2nd August 2016, 01:45 PM
ah ok
but this is the one album hit wonders thread ;D
Posted by: pippa 2nd August 2016, 01:47 PM
Alexandra Burke should be on this list.
Posted by: Joe. 2nd August 2016, 01:57 PM
I have no doubt that Emeli Sande will join that list.
Posted by: ML Hammer95 2nd August 2016, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(Joe. @ Aug 2 2016, 02:57 PM)
I have no doubt that Emeli Sande will join that list.
A while ago I thought she had the potential to make an 'Ed Sheeran sized-comeback' but that is starting to dwindle.
Sam Smith potentially.
Posted by: 360Jupiter 2nd August 2016, 03:45 PM
It really has been a long time for Emeli. Its the Olympics now, and the last time we saw her flying high was the last Olympics. And even that was off the back of the final song she released from her album.
Wonder if she decided to go in one direction then switched. She was recently featured on a dance song on Netsky's new album and she had songs with Guetta and Jess Glynne last year - although the latter hasn't yet seen the light of day as a single.
Posted by: Robbie 2nd August 2016, 03:51 PM
Duffy's first album was quite good. At the time she was more popular than Adele. Then she released a turkey of a single to promote the second album, sacked her manager (the wonderful Jeanette Lee, formerly of Public Image Ltd and a co-owner of Rough Trade records) and it all went downhill after that.
Posted by: pippa 2nd August 2016, 04:01 PM
With Emeli Sande its all or nothing, i believe her next album will either be huge of a flop, no middle ground.
Posted by: liamk97 2nd August 2016, 04:04 PM
QUOTE(pippa @ Aug 2 2016, 05:01 PM)
With Emeli Sande its all or nothing, i believe her next album will either be huge of a flop, no middle ground.
I agree, I think the lead single will be crucial to determining her success. I hope she does well because I adore her debut album. Would be nice to hear some more upbeat stuff too.
I'm worried about what's to come for Sam Smith. I feel like he's exhausted all he wanted to say in his music with his debut, which did make for a fantastic debut, but I fear that will mean there's nothing else to talk about in his next album. Mind you, that was a potential problem for Adele in regards to following up 21, but she managed to sing about new things as well as touching on and expanding themes of her last album.
Posted by: Robbie 2nd August 2016, 04:53 PM
QUOTE(pippa @ Aug 2 2016, 05:01 PM)
With Emeli Sande its all or nothing, i believe her next album will either be huge of a flop, no middle ground.
I think she's waited far too long to follow up her debut album. She's going to find it hard to make a success of her next album as she's lost all momentum.Posted by: SKOB 2nd August 2016, 04:57 PM
The problem of both Sam Smith and Emeli Sande is that they haven't yet released proper classics as singles. I believe Latch will still be the most frequently played song Smith's been featured on and nobody random person can really remember any songs by Sande.
Posted by: mr_pmt 2nd August 2016, 08:48 PM
QUOTE(SKOB @ Aug 2 2016, 05:57 PM)
The problem of both Sam Smith and Emeli Sande is that they haven't yet released proper classics as singles. I believe Latch will still be the most frequently played song Smith's been featured on and nobody random person can really remember any songs by Sande.
I'm fairly sure most people could name 'Read All About It' and 'Next To Me'.
Posted by: paulgilb 2nd August 2016, 09:55 PM
QUOTE(Robbie @ Aug 2 2016, 04:51 PM)
Duffy's first album was quite good. At the time she was more popular than Adele. Then she released a turkey of a single to promote the second album, sacked her manager (the wonderful Jeanette Lee, formerly of Public Image Ltd and a co-owner of Rough Trade records) and it all went downhill after that.
The difference between Duffy and Adele seems to be that Adele wanted her 2nd album to be successful, whereas Duffy was quite happy to take the money she'd made from her first album and run back into obscurity.
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd August 2016, 10:34 PM
QUOTE(paulgilb @ Aug 2 2016, 09:55 PM)
The difference between Duffy and Adele seems to be that Adele wanted her 2nd album to be successful, whereas Duffy was quite happy to take the money she'd made from her first album and run back into obscurity.
This
Duffy dosent seem to give a f*ck her career is over - She could still be touring off the back of the first albums success but seems to be content with what she achieved, I'm sure the royalties are still rolling in too.
Posted by: andeeeeyhart 2nd August 2016, 11:10 PM
Alexandra Burke, Ting Tings, Noisettes spring to mind.
Posted by: JCM20 3rd August 2016, 12:20 AM
Craig David? Although Slicker Than Your Average did not too badly I suppose
Posted by: cqmerqn 3rd August 2016, 04:38 AM
QUOTE(SKOB @ Aug 2 2016, 05:57 PM)
The problem of both Sam Smith and Emeli Sande is that they haven't yet released proper classics as singles. I believe Latch will still be the most frequently played song Smith's been featured on and nobody random person can really remember any songs by Sande.
I'm not much of a fan of Sande, and I remembered 3 songs of hers instantly.
Posted by: Bjork 3rd August 2016, 06:35 AM
QUOTE(SKOB @ Aug 2 2016, 06:57 PM)
The problem of both Sam Smith and Emeli Sande is that they haven't yet released proper classics as singles. I believe Latch will still be the most frequently played song Smith's been featured on and nobody random person can really remember any songs by Sande.
you joking? have you heard of a little Sam Smith song called Stay With Me??? most bizarre comment ever lol
I think it's good that Emelie Sande took time off, she saturated the market for 2 years in 2012/13 so she really needed a break from the charts... maybe she's left it too long now but I guess she has avoided a clash with Adele in the charts... still think Emeli Sande will be successful, 1. she writes her own songs so she does not depend on others and 2. her label did all the imaginable promo so sure they'll do the same this time
Posted by: SKOB 3rd August 2016, 06:42 AM
Well I think it's just Finland then. Sande never gets played here and Latch really is *the one* by Smith.
4 years is a very long gap, there must be something new in the music if one's going to return successfully
Posted by: Lomadz 3rd August 2016, 06:51 AM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Aug 1 2016, 11:12 PM)
I still LOVE Daniel Bedingfields 2nd album, so underrated.
Glad someone else agrees. I played it a lot more than the first back in the day. Some really really strong tracks but less commercial. He was always a bit of a strange popstar.
Posted by: T Boy 3rd August 2016, 07:29 AM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Aug 2 2016, 11:34 PM)
This Duffy dosent seem to give a f*ck her career is over - She could still be touring off the back of the first albums success but seems to be content with what she achieved, I'm sure the royalties are still rolling in too.
Duffy dosent seem to give a f*ck her career is over - She could still be touring off the back of the first albums success but seems to be content with what she achieved, I'm sure the royalties are still rolling in too.She's still doing bits and bobs. There were a few tracks for Legend last year and she also had a cameo in the film. She's also done other acting. I just hope she puts out a third album before long, I don't even care whether it's successful or not.
Posted by: JCM20 3rd August 2016, 08:37 AM
Rihanna didn't release an album for 4 years either - it's done OK in falling sales climates like these
Posted by: Robbie 3rd August 2016, 10:07 AM
QUOTE(paulgilb @ Aug 2 2016, 10:55 PM)
The difference between Duffy and Adele seems to be that Adele wanted her 2nd album to be successful, whereas Duffy was quite happy to take the money she'd made from her first album and run back into obscurity.
From what I've read Duffy was very upset that her second album didn't too well and sank into depression as a result. She's supposedly recorded a third album but for whatever reason she seems reluctant to actually release it.Also, when Adele announced she was about to release her second album I can remember thinking at the time that it would probably be a flop! In fact I think I might have even posted that over at Moopy - then one snowy night back in the great snowy November / December we had back in 2010 she appeared on Jools Holland's "Later" show and sang 'Someone Like You' and I had to admit that perhaps I might be wrong...
Posted by: Scene 3rd August 2016, 10:33 AM
I think the problem with Emeli (and potentially Sam) is that they are seen as "mini Adeles" - kind of like how Adele herself was once seen with Duffy as a "mini Amy". Adele could afford to not release a follow-up album for nearly 5 years because 21 was incredibly HUGE. While both OVOE and ITLH have been big successes, I don't think either Emeli or Sam could successfully leave a 4-5 year gap between albums since they aren't as big of a deal as Adele. It may be too late for Emeli to have another big era but Sam should get new music out next year at the very latest otherwise he's going to fall out of trend.
Posted by: JCM20 3rd August 2016, 11:06 AM
QUOTE(Scene @ Aug 3 2016, 11:33 AM)
I think the problem with Emeli (and potentially Sam) is that they are seen as "mini Adeles" - kind of like how Adele herself was once seen with Duffy as a "mini Amy". Adele could afford to not release a follow-up album for nearly 5 years because 21 was incredibly HUGE. While both OVOE and ITLH have been big successes, I don't think either Emeli or Sam could successfully leave a 4-5 year gap between albums since they aren't as big of a deal as Adele. It may be too late for Emeli to have another big era but Sam should get new music out next year at the very latest otherwise he's going to fall out of trend.
I know he's of a totally different calibre but do you think George Ezra has any chance of reaching the heights of Wanted on Voyage with his next album or was that just a flash in the pan?
Posted by: Scene 3rd August 2016, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(JCM20 @ Aug 3 2016, 12:06 PM)
I know he's of a totally different calibre but do you think George Ezra has any chance of reaching the heights of Wanted on Voyage with his next album or was that just a flash in the pan?
I actually think he stands a good chance of bettering himself commercially with his next album. The fact that he wasn't too overexposed with his WOV era should definitely work in his favour. Unless the quality of his music rapidly deteriorates between WOV and the next album, I think he'll be as successful, if not more, the second time around. I'm not really a fan of GE but he's clearly got the critics, radio and music fans on side.
Posted by: SKOB 3rd August 2016, 11:22 AM
QUOTE(Scene @ Aug 3 2016, 11:33 AM)
I think the problem with Emeli (and potentially Sam) is that they are seen as "mini Adeles" - kind of like how Adele herself was once seen with Duffy as a "mini Amy". Adele could afford to not release a follow-up album for nearly 5 years because 21 was incredibly HUGE. While both OVOE and ITLH have been big successes, I don't think either Emeli or Sam could successfully leave a 4-5 year gap between albums since they aren't as big of a deal as Adele. It may be too late for Emeli to have another big era but Sam should get new music out next year at the very latest otherwise he's going to fall out of trend.
Basically this.
It's also worth noting that the mellow r&b pop Sande did is not popular any more at all. She has two ways in my opinion: electrify herself and go more dance or just focus on huge ballads a la Hello.
Posted by: tommie 3rd August 2016, 11:34 AM
QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 2 2016, 09:03 AM)
That wasn't really a term back then. I thought it only got invented to cover Gaga's arse if she flopped.
"Buzz" or "promo only" singles have been a term for ages. Lily Allen's LDN was a "buzz release" originally with a cheap video.
Posted by: N-S 3rd August 2016, 04:01 PM
QUOTE(SKOB @ Aug 3 2016, 07:42 AM)
Well I think it's just Finland then. Sande never gets played here and Latch really is *the one* by Smith.
It must be Finland only, because for what I know, in most countries "Stay With Me" is by far the Sam Smith standard.
Posted by: 360Jupiter 3rd August 2016, 08:19 PM
Surely Sam Smith as one of the few out gay pop singers has a wealth of experience and angst to mine for new songs for a future album or albums?
Not to mention he's already showed versatility dipping into collaborations on rap and dance-EDM records. Surely Naughty Boy owes him a feature for the lead single of a new album? I wouldn't expect him to sink without a trace really unless something really big goes down. Or I guess, unless he decides to retire and live a quiet life.
In terms of Emeli Sande she should do a Rihanna and feature on a big song like Love the Way You Lie. She's a big voiced female with a quirky style, there's a million and one directions she could go in. A big feature would get her name out there again without the risk of a flop falling at her feet as the featured artist - and then she could release her lead single off the back of it. As a comeback and a follow-up to a big feature it would sell moderately well on her name alone.
An artist I wonder if we're going to see more of is Jessie J. Her career's been a lot more flash in the pan than I would've thought from how her first era went and how she was hammered promo-wise on everything possible and hailed as the second coming.
Posted by: JCM20 3rd August 2016, 09:39 PM
QUOTE(360Jupiter @ Aug 3 2016, 09:19 PM)
In terms of Emeli Sande she should do a Rihanna and feature on a big song like Love the Way You Lie. She's a big voiced female with a quirky style, there's a million and one directions she could go in. A big feature would get her name out there again without the risk of a flop falling at her feet as the featured artist - and then she could release her lead single off the back of it. As a comeback and a follow-up to a big feature it would sell moderately well on her name alone.
Allow me to introduce you to a David Guetta song called "What I Did for Love"
Posted by: 360Jupiter 3rd August 2016, 11:05 PM
QUOTE(JCM20 @ Aug 3 2016, 10:39 PM)
Allow me to introduce you to a David Guetta song called "What I Did for Love"
Yes, but that was a while ago now, she'd need another by now probably
Posted by: danG 4th August 2016, 07:15 AM
QUOTE(360Jupiter @ Aug 3 2016, 09:19 PM)
An artist I wonder if we're going to see more of is Jessie J. Her career's been a lot more flash in the pan than I would've thought from how her first era went and how she was hammered promo-wise on everything possible and hailed as the second coming.
I think Jessie J's next era will be a huge flop actually. Her last two hits were very much helped by non-Jessie J factors ('Flashlight' - being in a film, 'Bang Bang' - featuring Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande at her commercial peak) and it's been a while since those.I think Emeli's left it too late to have a huge second era too. Sam Smith will probably (unfortunately) remain successful though.
Posted by: Scene 4th August 2016, 11:03 AM
QUOTE(360Jupiter @ Aug 3 2016, 09:19 PM)
An artist I wonder if we're going to see more of is Jessie J. Her career's been a lot more flash in the pan than I would've thought from how her first era went and how she was hammered promo-wise on everything possible and hailed as the second coming.
I think her public persona has been really detrimental to her career lately. She's been quoted for saying some pretty arrogant things which goes against the British mentality. She's focused more on the US but obviously it takes a lot for an artist to establish themselves Stateside. Also I don't think Jessie's career is being handled well. Didn't she change management and sign with Tinie Tempah's own company? 'Bang Bang' was a massive hit but there was barely any interest in the album/any follow-up singles.
I wonder if Rita Ora is looking to join the "One Album Wonder" club. She had a big debut era in 2012 - 3 number one singles, a number one album. She was meant to release a second album in 2014 but presumably her messy split with Calvin Harris meant she was in need of new material. Next plan was a 2015 release, none of the singles took off properly and she has ditched Roc Nation for Warner. But it's now been 4 years since her first album - I don't know if she has enough momentum to find success a second time.
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th August 2016, 11:06 AM
Rita is an interesting one indeed. It's been 4 years since ORA but honestly she's been in the spotlight a fair bit since then, with her judging roles on The Voice and The X Factor, plus a few features keeping her in the chart. I think she'll become more of a singles artist with the next album really, a few hits but the album won't shift huge numbers.
Posted by: SKOB 4th August 2016, 11:26 AM
How many copies did her album sell?
Posted by: The Hit Parade 4th August 2016, 12:48 PM
I said on Twitter they really should have included The Farm in this. Their first album was a Number One and the others didn't even make the Top 75 (even with some hit singles).
Posted by: 360Jupiter 4th August 2016, 08:47 PM
QUOTE(Scene @ Aug 4 2016, 12:03 PM)
I think her public persona has been really detrimental to her career lately. She's been quoted for saying some pretty arrogant things which goes against the British mentality. She's focused more on the US but obviously it takes a lot for an artist to establish themselves Stateside. Also I don't think Jessie's career is being handled well. Didn't she change management and sign with Tinie Tempah's own company? 'Bang Bang' was a massive hit but there was barely any interest in the album/any follow-up singles.
To be honest I feel Jessie J has been coasting for quite a while now. The era of shaving her head and releasing a lead single right outside of the pop she was known for seemed at the time to be an overconfident move. She does seem to be unpopular on a lot of UK-based music websites but does not seem to realise that its a situation entirely of her own making with the way she comes across.
Re Rita Ora she really grew on me during her stint on the X Factor. I'd be interested in what she comes out with next just based on how warmly she came across there. TV exposure done well can really grow an artist's reach - see early Cheryl Cole - as well as knock it down - see Paloma Faith and late Cheryl Cole.
On that note, Paloma's another one that it feels really didn't capitalise on the big hit she had with Sigma, although she's had enough albums not to be a one-album wonder.
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