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Posted by: Common Sense 1st October 2019, 03:18 PM
MP Sir Geoffrey Clifton-Brown has been ordered to go home by the party after being involved in a punch-up with security after he forgot his pass and wasn't allowed in to the conference. Armed police rushed over fearing a terrorist attack.
According to parliamentary sketch writer John Crace, the MP is now being held by police.
He wrote on Twitter: ‘The treasurer of the 1922 committee, Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, has been held by police after an incident in the International Lounge at the Tory party conference."
Latest is he's been released without charge and told to go home but is reportedly not happy. Surely tight security is there for a purpose. They didn't know who he was. He wasn't a well-known face and had no security badge. Fighting with security is disgraceful. What kind of message does it show? Hope the public don't begin to think the Tories are just a bunch of thugs. 
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 1st October 2019, 03:26 PM
They are a bunch of thugs, charlatans, toffs, liars and disco citizens snobs.
Posted by: Suedehead2 1st October 2019, 03:27 PM
Even if he was better known, it would be no excuse. Everyone attending a party conference has to have a pass with a photo. Those rules apply to everybody. Many years ago, Paddy Ashdown was denied entry to the Lib Dem conference because he didn't have his pass. In his case, he laughed about it and went back to get it.
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 1st October 2019, 03:28 PM
Just shows the disco citizens posh snob entitelement the Tories have. They are the lords and masters and the rest of us are plebs forced to flee from their very presence.
Remember the thug who forced the climate protestor out violently? The protrstor wearing a floral summery slip? He grunted about her "ruining ma dinnah!" like a neanderthal. They're just cowardly thugs.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 1st October 2019, 03:30 PM
I guess thank Christ the Home Secretary today has promised to "come after the thugs, gangs, and criminals who make law-abiding people's lives a misery". I feel reassured he'll be dealt with accordingly.
Posted by: Common Sense 1st October 2019, 03:37 PM
Yes I was just thinking of her.
Posted by: Common Sense 1st October 2019, 03:45 PM
I read that as Thank Chris at first.
Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 1st October 2019, 06:22 PM
Not surprised the cops were on him quick, I think every Cop in Greater Manchester is within a 50 metre radius of GMEX. Great couple of days to commit a crime.
Not that GMP actually investigate crimes anymore thanks to the Tories gutting their ranks. Still enough to flood the city centre tho. Feel so safe with all the openly carrying armed cops about (not)
Posted by: vidcapper 2nd October 2019, 07:12 AM
Why do you keep using the phrase 'landed-gentry' when you know it will be auto-altered to 'disco citizens'...
Posted by: vidcapper 2nd October 2019, 07:16 AM
According to parliamentary sketch writer John Crace, the MP is now being held by police.
Surely tight security is there for a purpose. They didn't know who he was. He wasn't a well-known face and had no security badge. Fighting with security is disgraceful. What kind of message does it show? Hope the public don't begin to think the Tories are just a bunch of thugs.
I doubt anyone will base their opinion on the whole Tory party, on just one incident (with the exception of AQ, of course).
Posted by: Common Sense 2nd October 2019, 07:26 AM
Well hopefully they won't as there's good and bad everywhere. He may have been stressed. We all get those days.
Posted by: vidcapper 2nd October 2019, 07:58 AM
Some more than others - remoaners perhaps?
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 2nd October 2019, 08:30 AM
Infuriatingly I just know for absolute cast-iron fact you'd have a different tune entirely if it was a non-Tory who did the same thing.
Posted by: Common Sense 2nd October 2019, 08:40 AM
Well yes.
Posted by: mald487 2nd October 2019, 08:49 AM
I don't get into punch ups with people when I "get stressed".
Posted by: mald487 2nd October 2019, 08:50 AM
Yawn.
Posted by: vidcapper 2nd October 2019, 09:10 AM
I might *think* it, but I wouldn't care enough to actually post about it.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 2nd October 2019, 11:48 AM
Still evidence of double standards, whether you choose to express it or not.
Posted by: TheJüpreme 3rd October 2019, 01:47 PM
Assault = sent home. Where are the charges?
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd October 2019, 05:43 PM
He wasn't charged. Just sent home.
Posted by: TheJüpreme 3rd October 2019, 06:38 PM
Exactly. Bullshit.
Posted by: vidcapper 4th October 2019, 05:07 AM
Everyone has double standards - ISTM I'm just more honest about them...
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 4th October 2019, 08:11 AM
No. You're just a hypocrite, like the right wing and right wing media x
Posted by: Common Sense 4th October 2019, 01:01 PM
Why is it? Not everyone taken to the cop shop is charged. Often they're let off or let off with a caution if it's a minor thing.
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 4th October 2019, 01:02 PM
Especially if they are posh rich and part of the Tory estanlishment!
Posted by: Common Sense 4th October 2019, 01:04 PM
No, ordinary plebs too. Sometimes it's not worth pressing charges or the aggrieved party may not want to press charges.
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 4th October 2019, 01:11 PM
And yet the rich make laws for the poor to abide by that the rich then flaut. And you are here doffing your cap to them!!
Posted by: Common Sense 4th October 2019, 01:13 PM
Laws are for us all though. The law doesn't differentiate between poor and rich. It would be chaos if it did.
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 4th October 2019, 01:20 PM
Oh really? And yet Tory mps go on about taking coke, Bojo took it too, the sewers under London are contaminated with it, and yet the poor are SMASHED and thrown away if they do the same. That's just ONE EXAMPLE. Benefits mistake? Jail for 5 years. Failure to declare millions in houses, etc, oh, just a posh boy error, hur hurr!
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 4th October 2019, 01:20 PM
Rich make the laws for the rest of us to follow. Every time you support Tory, you support the existence of an elite estbalishment class who are above the law.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th October 2019, 01:22 PM
I feel like Michael has a point though, his privilege is probably why this toerag evaded being arrested and given (at least) a caution. and probably why Boris Johnson isn't being tried for treason
Posted by: Tones and Iz 4th October 2019, 01:24 PM
Remember Mark Field? Never got formally charged for assault. Yet someone throws a milkshake on Farage and you'd best believe the law is ready to make him pay a fine.
If anything, public servants should be held to greater standards of scrutiny. But there's countless examples from just the Tory leadership contest this year alone that show that their misdemeanours are treated differently.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th October 2019, 01:24 PM
Well yes maybe he has a point. I mean Prince Philip too. Wonder if a mere pleb would have been charged with something then. Didn't they say the sun was in his eyes or something but am sure others have proved it couldn't have been that day.
Posted by: Tones and Iz 4th October 2019, 01:33 PM
For all Michael's rantings about the landed g*ntry, there's a large element of the truth to Conservatives being out-of-touch elites who have always had their money ready to get them out of any trouble they may find themselves in. As a party, it's structured to attract the sort of people who are only in politics to get more power for its own sake. Which sadly drowns out any of the proper conservatives, the sort you can disagree with while still accepting that they may want the best for the country in a different way. Ken Clarke, the now resigned Rory Stewart, that lot, most of who no longer have the whip.
That they manage to call liberals and the left out of touch is clear projection. It's a phenomenon that I only see working from conservatives to liberals/left and rarely the other way around, they accuse the other side of all the things they are doing themselves. Clearly most of the Conservative male MPs are still stuck several decades ago as far as gender roles and aggressiveness goes, it goes hand in hand with this desire for power.
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