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Posted by: Cameron Jan 21 2016, 08:04 AM

Lawson have confirmed on twitter that their new single will be called 'Money' the track is set to premier next week and the music video was filmed yesterday.
I am still unsure if 'Roads' will be included on the album seeing as it was featured on the 'Lawson - EP' so for now we will call this the second single.

Posted by: mdh Jan 21 2016, 08:08 AM

so will this be a straight up release or will it be given an official release date?

Posted by: Totto Jan 21 2016, 12:43 PM

I tottaly love the tracks on Lawson - EP. It took me while to came in, but I eventually did.

Curious for Money.

Posted by: Regina Jan 21 2016, 12:52 PM

The little clip of this sound amazing, but then I've yet to hear a song by them I didn't love.

Posted by: slowdown73 Jan 21 2016, 01:41 PM

Great, can't wait. Roads was more like a b side than single material.

Posted by: (Zach) Jan 22 2016, 02:23 AM

I loved Roads but I couldn't get into the rest of the Lawson EP. If this is as good as Roads I'll be happy. I'm intrigued by the title!

Posted by: ThePensmith Jan 22 2016, 03:02 PM

Very excited to hear this. Hoping that it samples The O'Jays 'Money' as that would just be heavenly.

Posted by: Cameron Jan 27 2016, 09:57 AM

Will be on spotify tonight, I am not sure if it has already premiered on radio or not

Posted by: Virginia's Walls Jan 27 2016, 10:00 AM

Lots of diamond rings, the happiness it brings, you live like a king ... kaching!

Posted by: Regina Jan 27 2016, 11:13 AM

It premieres on radio about half an hour before it is up to stream.

Posted by: Cameron Jan 27 2016, 09:52 PM

https://play.spotify.com/album/1340yM5KtT6b8rLIv3V94E

Quite enjoying it on first listen

Posted by: Regina Jan 28 2016, 08:31 AM

Mucho love *.*

Posted by: mdh Jan 28 2016, 08:33 AM

Sounding distinctively Lawson, really nice track

But tut tut about the disgraceful expletive

Posted by: Joe. Jan 28 2016, 09:53 AM

Being hammered by Heart and Capital already.

Odd that it's on Spotify already but is held back on iTunes/officially until the 18th of March.

Posted by: Cameron Jan 28 2016, 09:54 AM

Will be released 18th March

Posted by: slowdown73 Jan 28 2016, 11:41 AM

That's ages away. Strange release strategy.

Posted by: mr_pmt Jan 28 2016, 11:58 AM

It's a big improvement on 'Roads'.

Posted by: Cameron Jan 28 2016, 02:49 PM

It is the same as any other Pre-Order from previous years, six weeks before the track is premiered so it gains airplay

Posted by: Regina Jan 28 2016, 02:52 PM

A bti of a wait but worthwhile, build up streams and airplay.

Gonna need to hunt a good quality mp3 though

Posted by: ThePensmith Jan 30 2016, 06:53 PM

I like the single artwork. Glad they're back to actually being on the cover of it again!

The actual song is good - will take a few more plays before I'm feeling it properly mind. Capital and Heart have already been playing it so that's a start.

Posted by: (Zach) Jan 31 2016, 04:14 AM

After a few plays I'm not into it. I hope it grows.

Posted by: SeanGrey Jan 31 2016, 06:25 PM

Atrocious on first listen.

Posted by: Rossco Feb 1 2016, 12:56 AM

Their first album was brilliant! I don't know what's happened to them

Posted by: JosephStyles Feb 1 2016, 10:36 AM

This is like, the best thing they've ever done.

Posted by: Regina Feb 1 2016, 06:03 PM

says hello

Posted by: mr_pmt Feb 1 2016, 06:18 PM

^ That song really should have been a single, it's probably their best for me too.

Posted by: Jaspine Thompson Feb 4 2016, 08:25 AM

I like it

Posted by: Regina Feb 4 2016, 08:30 AM

Andy *.* hunky bae.

Posted by: Cameron Feb 4 2016, 12:56 PM

Simple video but I like it. I also echo all the love for Parachute.

Posted by: ThePensmith Feb 4 2016, 09:17 PM

Simple video but it works. 'Juliet' is still their best (and weirdest) video for me! This has grown on me a bit more now as well

Posted by: Rob S~ Feb 18 2016, 11:31 PM

this has grown on me so much from the first listen, those reggae beats are so funky very catchy. Shame it's not going to do much

Posted by: slowdown73 Mar 1 2016, 02:41 PM

Any news about a physical release for money yet?

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 1 2016, 07:50 PM

I was just about to say...they've announced a limited signed 3 CD bundle available on their official store!



http://store.universalmusic.com/lawson/*/*/Money-3-CD-Bundle/53ZP0000000

Posted by: Jaÿ Mar 1 2016, 08:53 PM

3 CDs ! I've never bought a single that has 3 CD formats before. Interesting tactic. Their previous singles only had 1 CD (and a few had a Vinyl too).

Posted by: slowdown73 Mar 2 2016, 01:10 AM

Disappointing track list. No new B sides. Those remixes aren't great. This will be their first release I may not get.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 13 2016, 04:38 PM

Lawson have lost all momentum, The debut album was SO good but then it all went a bit wrong with random releases and half hearted efforts.

Money has been available to stream for a month and has made no impact and there seems to be zero buzz about the track apart from Capital spamming it. I'm not convinced this will go Top 40, They have a fan bundle (3 X CDs plus download) but even if they sell 500 that's 'only' 2,000 sales. They are going to release multiple versions for download but streaming will counteract those. They had so much potential

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 15 2016, 09:06 PM

TBF I can understand why there was such a gap between 'Juliet' and 'Roads' coming out because Andy wasn't very well for a good six months (mentioned in the topic for the latter as to the cause of his illness).

But the truth is their fans don't stream, and until they do Polydor will keep truncating their releases, or, and I hate to say cause I've always thought highly of them - be dropped.

Posted by: slowdown73 Mar 16 2016, 12:27 PM

Lawson will struggle this era due to the impact of streaming. I like money and roads but the new songs don't seem quite as strong as their earlier singles and perhaps not quite as radio friendly.

Posted by: Cameron Mar 16 2016, 12:29 PM

Money is their weakest single to date.

Posted by: Regina Mar 16 2016, 12:30 PM

Taking Over Me says hi slag.

I think it's time for Andy to shed clothing again, this time sans guitar.

Posted by: Cameron Mar 16 2016, 12:41 PM

Parachute >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

1. Standing In The Dark
2. Learn To Love Again
3. When She Was Mine
4. Juliet
5. Roads
6. Taking Over Me
7. Brokenhearted
8. Money

Posted by: Regina Mar 16 2016, 12:46 PM

1. Learn To Love Again
2. Juliet
3. Roads
4. Standing In The Dark
5. Money
6. Brokenhearted
7. When She Was Mine
8. Taking Over Me

Posted by: hotchoc26 Mar 16 2016, 01:12 PM

1. Juliet
2. When She Was Mine
3. Brokenhearted
4. Learn To Love Again
5. Standing In The Dark
6. Roads
7. Money
8. Taking Over Me

Posted by: -Jay- Mar 17 2016, 05:39 AM

Taking Over Me is their best single. #donttrustRegina #donttrusthotchoc

Posted by: Joe. Mar 17 2016, 07:43 AM

Taking Over Me is indeed their best - and by a clear mile.

Posted by: hotchoc26 Mar 17 2016, 08:13 AM

I never said I disliked it

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 17 2016, 07:02 PM

They chat and perform 'Money' on Lorraine tomorrow morning...

Posted by: -Jay- Mar 17 2016, 07:22 PM

Aww! You're forgiven

Posted by: Regina Mar 18 2016, 11:54 AM

My bundle came today *.* omg the signed single. I have Andy's DNA.

Posted by: slowdown73 Mar 19 2016, 08:26 PM

Looks like this will flop. Not even top50 on iTunes.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 19 2016, 08:56 PM

This will scrape Top 40 at best (but can see it doing much worse than that) the only thing that could give it a chart run of 36-Out is the fact they have 5 X HMV signings plus the bundles but not sure that will be enough to make up for lack of downloads and streaming.

Really can't see Polydor supporting them further after this?

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 19 2016, 10:25 PM

My signed bundle arrived today. I hate to say it but I think Polydor will drop them now. It's not that 'Money' isn't a good song, it's just it's far from their best (hello 'Juliet' and 'Taking Over Me') and at this stage of their career where it's been nearly a year since their last single which itself missed top 10 they needed something big to announce that they still meant business.

This coupled with a fanbase that doesn't use Spotify and the like is curtains. And I feel bad because having seen them live and interviewed them before as they are a nice group of lads, really talented and down to earth. But the music they're in, pop music, is a fickle beast and you're only as good as your last chart position. They would do well to be on their own label or doing crowd funded releases going forward because being on a major label is only holding them back, they have enough of a fanbase to release their new material and tour that way and they'd be a lot happier.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 20 2016, 09:12 PM

Seems like this release hasn't even clicked with their core fanbase - Dowm to #89 on iTunes now, part of me would prefer this to miss the Top 75 so everyone can claim it was a promotional single (As the Girls Aloud fans still claim ) than it become a #66 smash.

I really think Polydor will drop them after this - The last single and EP bombed and now with Money flopping hard I doubt they would want to invest in an album release that will have a chart run of 11-out and 3k sales.

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 20 2016, 09:34 PM

I think being on a major label helped them on their first album - largely because The Wanted were still active when their first few singles came out and by proxy they were always associated with them (largely because Andy and Max George were both in Avenue) which helped them gain traction.

It's always unpleasant when you see good bands encounter difficult second album syndrome with no possible hope of recovery to their earlier success. But maybe in a way this needs to happen to them so they can be the band that they're meant to be.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 21 2016, 03:30 AM

^^ I agree, Lawson are totally the kind of band that could release a fan funded album and earn their money from touring which has always been their strong point. For some reason even though they are a boy band they don't seem to have a traditional boy band fanbase which could work to their advantage in the long run.

Posted by: Kuki Sanban Mar 21 2016, 04:55 PM

1. Standing In The Dark
2. Learn To Love Again
3. Taking Over Me
4. When She Was Mine
5. Money
6. Juliet
7. Roads
8. Brokenhearted


Anyway, I expected this to struggle to make the top 40, but I didn't think it would do anywhere near as bad as it is doing! It could miss top 100 at this rate!

Posted by: Regina Mar 21 2016, 05:25 PM

They're not a boyband though

Posted by: mr_pmt Mar 21 2016, 05:53 PM

I totally forgot about 'Brokenhearted's existence!

I did used to like that but I don't think I've heard it since 2013, I think 'Juliet' just eclipsed it for me that much.

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 21 2016, 07:10 PM

This is part of the problem though. They were marketed as a boyband on their first album - certainly before the 'Chapter II' repack of 'Chapman Square' - but they've struggled to market them any other way since.

Just looking on Twitter and just 20 people turned up to a signing they did at HMV Brighton today This is kind of horrible really...

Posted by: Regina Mar 21 2016, 07:24 PM

Well what idiot planned signings during a time when most of their fanbase would be in school/college?

Posted by: Jake. Mar 21 2016, 08:47 PM

So I've just looked, and 'Money' is nowhere to be seen on today's Top 100 midweeks... Oops.

Posted by: Jaÿ Mar 22 2016, 01:58 AM

That seems odd, in fact it's not in the Top 200.... and I'd have thought with its short time in the iTunes Top 100 & the physicals that it would at least be within the Top 200! Have they possibly done an Alesha Dixon and requested it be ineligible?

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 22 2016, 03:11 AM

I guess it's possible they could have not sold enough for Top 100? We have no idea how many bundles have been sold but judging by this its next to nothing added to the fact it's done nothing on streaming and didn't make the iTunes Top 50. Not sure what's gone so wrong - Bit of a jump from never having a song miss the Top 15 to totally missing the Top 100!

Posted by: Jaÿ Mar 22 2016, 03:42 AM

It's not even within the Top 200, let alone the Top 100, and I'm really not sure how likely it is that they've genuinely missed the Top 200 in the Monday midweeks. Unless they've flopped hard with the physical releases too and barely sold any (there's 3 CDs!).

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 22 2016, 05:14 AM

I guess it's possible they have only sold 100 or so bundles? Their fanbase seems non existent on social media for this release and the signing today it really does look like a handful of fans turned up.

Sad that they have ended up like this - The same happened with The Wanted with their final single too.

Posted by: mr_pmt Mar 22 2016, 08:40 AM

I don't think this would have legitimately missed the top 200 in the first midweek, there will be another factor at play here.

Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 22 2016, 08:46 PM

The rest of their signings tour has been cancelled 'due to unforeseen circumstances'. They did HMV Leeds today and only 40 turned up This is actually really horrible to have to see, I must say. More so when you know the inevitable is going to happen next.

Posted by: slowdown73 Mar 22 2016, 11:01 PM

Things don't look good. I'll be surprised if they release their 2nd album now.

Posted by: Joe. Mar 22 2016, 11:21 PM

That's embarrassing. It had really decent AirPlay on two big stations too, there's no excuse for this tankage. I feel a bit bad for them. They certainly won't be doing another single let alone album.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 23 2016, 12:01 AM

This is horrible - I don't know what has gone SO wrong. Its like their fanbase literally disappeared for an act that's never missed the Top 15 to now not being able to go Top 200 with a fan bundle, streaming and various download formats and heavy support from Capital is unheard of.

Really hope they can move on if Polydor drop them as I think they still have something to offer and I love their music.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 23 2016, 12:03 AM

There is no way the album will be released unless it's too far advanced to stop? At best the record company know they would only shift 2-3k opening week before it plummeted based on what's been happening

Posted by: Jake. Mar 23 2016, 12:05 AM

The HMV signings are supposedly going to be rescheduled when the album comes out, according to what one of the members said in a reply to a fan on Twitter.

Somehow, I just can't see that happening...

Posted by: slowdown73 Mar 23 2016, 01:21 PM

I think they will have another single out first before the album (if it comes out). Remember this is their first single which has not charted so they can turn things around yet if they pick a strong radio friendly track.

Posted by: Regina Mar 23 2016, 01:23 PM

None of the EP charted either, if you exlude Roads.
It's sad to see how things have turned out, but a lot of blame can be placed at Polydor who seem to have just given up on them. Best thing is to just chuck the album, if it's done, and move on quickly to another label etc.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 23 2016, 02:51 PM

The band are tweeting lots of fans as mentioned above saying things like 'We wish we could tell you what's happening but it's nothing bad and very exciting' etc., they are also saying the album will be out soon! Makes me wonder if they haven't already parted with Polydor and somehow have the rights to self release the album?

Roads only spent 3 weeks in the Top 75 and with this mysteriously missing the Top 200 I kind of hope Polydor have dropped them and allow them to continue quickly rather than them being tied to a deal and getting no releases.

Posted by: ___∆___ Mar 23 2016, 02:53 PM

Just spotted that the tracks on the EP have been reduced to 59p and the overall EP is less than £3 now on iTunes, They should have done this to begin with but I guess from Polydors point of view it was probably a test to see the level of interest before committing to a full 2nd album?

Posted by: Andr00w Mar 25 2016, 06:45 PM

Missed the top 100 But it also missed the http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-sales-chart/ which can't be true surely?

It's such a shame as it's a good song but not entirely unexpected as they just left it too long after Roads.

Posted by: Jaÿ Mar 25 2016, 06:56 PM

I'm convinced it was made ineligible to chart. It's not in the physicals Top 100 chart either.

Posted by: Andr00w Mar 25 2016, 07:00 PM

How very Alesha Dixon of them.

Posted by: Ethan Bradberry Mar 25 2016, 07:06 PM

I bet they didn't make very much MONEY with this