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Brett-Butler
post Dec 12 2018, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Michael Bubré @ Dec 12 2018, 05:02 PM) *
The BBC are saying a majority of Tory MPs have already publicly backed her so it seems pretty unlikely she'll actually lose this. I'm enjoying the shambles of it actually happening though.


This means that the only way she can lose is if it turns out that Tory MPs are two-faced, duplicitous liars. Which would be a bit of a stretch.
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post Dec 12 2018, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 12 2018, 03:56 PM) *
Okay, Mr Splitting Hairs. tongue.gif

If I do win the £90, what should I spend it on? I’m think 90 boxes of Battenberg, unless you can think of anything better (heaven forbid).

Tickets for Suede, obviously.
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post Dec 12 2018, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 12 2018, 04:47 PM) *
This means that the only way she can lose is if it turns out that Tory MPs are two-faced, duplicitous liars. Which would be a bit of a stretch.


Yes. They are too strong and stable to be that! They are always compleeetely honest with everyone.
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post Dec 12 2018, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 12 2018, 04:47 PM) *
This means that the only way she can lose is if it turns out that Tory MPs are two-faced, duplicitous liars. Which would be a bit of a stretch.


I do take their reporting with a pinch of salt after how sure we apparently were that the ERG knew of 48 letters and a potential dozen more weeks ago laugh.gif but still, I'd be surprised if she doesn't survive this one.
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post Dec 12 2018, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 12 2018, 04:47 PM) *
This means that the only way she can lose is if it turns out that Tory MPs are two-faced, duplicitous liars. Which would be a bit of a stretch.

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post Dec 12 2018, 05:18 PM
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Mad May has brought the sex text mp back to the party in return for his vote rotf.gif Contemptible government. The landed gentry act as they please. Out out out!!
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post Dec 12 2018, 05:36 PM
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I have no doubt that she'll win tonight and win fairly comfortably then she can't be challenged for another year. As she says, now isn't the time to change the leader and she's doing her best to get some sort of acceptable Brexit deal. I feel a bit sorry for her to be honest.

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post Dec 12 2018, 06:16 PM
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I have absolutely no sympathy for her whatsoever. She chose to be in the position she's found herself in, to abandon her principles when she became PM in the name of gaining power and all she's done since is prove that she's willing to stoop to any low to retain her title (such as bribing the DUP's support/today's instance of restoring the sex text pest's whip), all she cares about is saving her own miserable skin.

As far as I'm concerned, she's a despicable human being and deserves whatever she gets.

But still rather her than a scenario like Boris being PM.


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post Dec 12 2018, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Dec 12 2018, 06:16 PM) *
I have absolutely no sympathy for her whatsoever. She chose to be in the position she's found herself in, to abandon her principles when she became PM in the name of gaining power and all she's done since is prove that she's willing to stoop to any low to retain her title (such as bribing the DUP's support/today's instance of restoring the sex text pest's whip), all she cares about is saving her own miserable skin.

As far as I'm concerned, she's a despicable human being and deserves whatever she gets.


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post Dec 12 2018, 06:23 PM
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I like May. Last thing we need is a change in pm
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post Dec 12 2018, 06:36 PM
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I think she will survive the challenge by a decent margin. Hopefully that should light a fire under Labour’s leadership and extinguish their hopes of a no confidence vote and snap election in parliament because they won’t have the numbers from the Tory benches to support the motion. I do expect them to remain useless and impotent on the matter
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post Dec 12 2018, 08:33 PM
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May has said she will stand down as leader before the next general election.

Half an hour until the result is revealed, I imagine at this point she's staying.
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post Dec 12 2018, 09:01 PM
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So she has survived, but over a third of the MPs voted against her.
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post Dec 12 2018, 09:01 PM
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May has won

200 in favour
117 against
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post Dec 12 2018, 09:05 PM
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Well, no Battenbergs for me then.
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post Dec 12 2018, 09:06 PM
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If the payroll vote (ministers plus ministerial aides amounting to around 120 votes) all voted for May, then backbenchers voted heavily against her.
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post Dec 12 2018, 09:57 PM
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Massive vote against her (only 63% support) - quite shocked how high it was, expecting around 60-80 'hardcore ERG etc'.

Thatcher got 84% in her first confidence vote in 1989 and was gone a year later.

May had to concede that she will go before the next election to get the support she did and it is pretty clear that the deal is now dead with her authority immediately drained. What remains to be seen is what happens next?
Kudos to Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party for not tabling a doomed 'no confidence' vote in the government (which would have united the Tories) and instead allowed the Tories to tear themselves apart. Note to SNP: This is how you actually do Politics.

The question is now when to table a vote of no confidence in the government - as the ERG will be desperate for the nuclear option (they can't call another no confidence vote for 12 months), I'd suggest it'll come after the withdrawal agreement 'meaningful' vote gets rejected, of which it looks like it will be when it EVENTUALLY comes now.

'oh dear'.
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post Dec 12 2018, 10:15 PM
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When I heard Boris Johnson was in contention for the leadership, I thought to myself... please NO. In a way I'm glad she won it, but now where does she go with all the Brexshit issue. Where ever I go everybody is talking about it, this is why sometimes I hate politics. Also when we decide to have an election, I can see a Labour win. In a way I'm torn between both parties because I don't know who is capable of doing the job for this country.
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post Dec 12 2018, 10:31 PM
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Maggie quit after getting 204 votes. Mad May says nothing has changed with 200!
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post Dec 12 2018, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Pigs in blankets @ Dec 12 2018, 10:15 PM) *
When I heard Boris Johnson was in contention for the leadership, I thought to myself... please NO. In a way I'm glad she won it, but now where does she go with all the Brexshit issue. Where ever I go everybody is talking about it, this is why sometimes I hate politics. Also when we decide to have an election, I can see a Labour win. In a way I'm torn between both parties because I don't know who is capable of doing the job for this country.


VOTE LABOUR.

There is no comparison between them and the disgusting party of food banks and privatisation, of the born to rule rich.
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