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 Labour Party Leadership contest, Keir we go |
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 6th April 2020, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(J00ps @ Apr 4 2020, 06:12 PM)  Pleased by the result. At the very least it will be interesting watching how fast the media shift to portraying Kier as the spawn of Satan despite having excellent credentials and a classic British underdog story. Fascinating indictment of the power of the media portraying a certain image how Jeremy Corbyn - the absolute stereotype of a kindly, well-meaning, uncontroversial English grandfather figure who made jam and gardened and rode the bus to work, became public enemy number 1. I would hope Keir will be able to actually sway some people back though. My absolute ideal would be if the media would take it down a notch and stop altogether portraying the very concept of something being 'left' as a dirty word. Insane that that is still the narrative in a world where we are more dependent than ever right now on socialized medicine, low-paid workers sacrificing for the good of the nation, a UBI in all but name, and more people than ever before reliant on state benefits just to keep a roof over their head and food in the kïtchen. Not the media but everyone on my Facebook are sharing posts about Starmer being head of CPS when Jimmy Saville was acquired for lack of evidence in 2009... 
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6th April 2020, 12:14 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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The hapless Richard Burgeon is out. The thieving Ian Lavery is out. Other Corbynites like Abbott & Gardiner are out. It looks like there’s a big clear out of the old guard. Whether Thornberry & Long-Bailey survive the chop remains to be seen - the latter will probably be out, the former might get a reprieve.
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6th April 2020, 03:13 PM
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Long-Bailey in at Education Secretary, and Ed Miliband as Business!
Both good signs. I don't think people should want all of the Corbyn cabinet gone, had there been a complete purge it would give the socialist wing of the party good reason to start looking for allies elsewhere and possibly finding people like George Galloway and Chris Williamson as they do so. I think Starmer's done well putting together a soft left focused cabinet and if it has both Reeves and Long-Bailey in it, much better for the long-term unity of the party. And Miliband will add a lot of name recognition and I think he's been quite rehabilitated in public opinion given well, everything. Quite excited with most of the appointments, I did really like Abbott and Burgon but they'd both come in for quite a lot of unfortunate abuse so a reprieve is fine. They'd both become emblematic of certain people seeing Labour as 'extreme left' even more than RLB so optics-wise, not a problem. |
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6th April 2020, 03:30 PM
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Good to see Ed back, think he's more radical than people give him credit for. Cabinet is basically full of soft left brownite types which is fine by me.
Also Abbot was always stepping down as was McDonnel and Jeremy. |
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6th April 2020, 03:34 PM
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Like I said, it doesn't matter. We don't live in a functioning democracy anymore. The media has seen to that. They defend Bojo and the Tories like Russian state media with Putin.
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6th April 2020, 05:19 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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The generally do but I wouldn't say it's guaranteed!
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