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Posted by: Steve201 15th July 2017, 10:14 PM
When's the new spoilers for this?
Posted by: Jay ☆ 29th July 2017, 08:13 PM
Posted by: Steve201 30th July 2017, 09:53 PM
Looking forward to this - might watch last season again beforehand! Wish they would get rid of at least one of the groups!
Posted by: Steve201 20th October 2017, 12:10 AM
Starts on Monday - seems to be no buzz at all and could be the last series if the fans have gone!!
Posted by: jase. 20th October 2017, 01:44 AM
TWD is gonna be around for years to come.
Reviews for 'Mercy' (8x01) are in and a lot of them are saying it's a return to form so that's very promising 
Posted by: Steve201 20th October 2017, 05:11 PM
Let's hope so - I just don't like the fact that no one on here is talking about it at all!
Posted by: Jay ☆ 20th October 2017, 05:34 PM
I'm not particularly hyped for this, unfortunately. 
Season 7 really tested my patience in terms of overall enjoyment.
~ Spoilers to follow for those who haven't seen Season 7 ~
Obviously a series about zombies isn't believable in itself, but a lot of other elements just aren't ringing true. The trash people are such a bizarre addition (an odd way of talking/emotionless/all dress the same - it's not really been THAT long since the apocalypse began that such a bizarre group of people would come into existence ). Also, Rick's group putting so much trust into them didn't make any sense - they gave no real indication that they could be trusted, no bonds were formed.
The tiger is a very strange plot device - how convenient that this magical tiger knew exactly who the "bad guys" were in the season finale. 
I find Negan to be extremely tiresome too. Endless monologues... he became more annoying than terrifying. He doesn't strike me as someone who'd be able to hold so much power over people, so it's difficult to take him seriously as the main antagonist.
I'll give Season 8 Episode 1 a go... hopefully it's good and an improvement in quality. If it leaves me feeling more annoyed than entertained though, I might make the decision to dip out from watching.
Posted by: Steve201 23rd October 2017, 05:13 PM
I agree with what you said above - but with 3 hours til the new series I'm super excited!
Posted by: Severin 23rd October 2017, 07:22 PM
Didn't find much to get excited about in the first episode. Seemed wildly incoherent in its 'plan' and overly convenient in many places. Wasn't hyped and still came away disappointed.
Loved the owl though
Posted by: Jonjo 23rd October 2017, 07:32 PM
I disagree. I really enjoyed it, in an episode 6 after a couple of filler episodes sort of way. I understand it not being coherent or exciting enough as a lead episode, but I'm intrigued by where it all is atm. I assume they're actually in trouble and we're just seeing flashbacks, as such atm. The whole future thing is just a vision I assume.
Posted by: breezyspice 23rd October 2017, 08:22 PM
I really enjoyed the premiere last night! I think I can say so without any spoilers.
I was on the edge of my seat, with sweaty palms and anxiety - which oddly enough, is enjoyable, haha!
It's nice to finally see the story moving forward (I'm a comic book reader) as it felt a little drawn out last season. The episode put everything in place quickly and while I'm sure there will be some playing around with it, it feels like we're moving at least.
Robert Kirkman also said there will be a Fear the Walking Dead/The Walking Dead crossover next year.
Posted by: Hocus Pokus 23rd October 2017, 09:59 PM
I actually enjoyed that opening episode, I'm assuming the vicar got battered which we never saw
Posted by: jase. 23rd October 2017, 11:18 PM
LOVED the opener! I adored seeing them all back together 
Was on the edge of my seat throughout the last half of the episode.
Posted by: Rooney 23rd October 2017, 11:29 PM
Season 7 was absolutely awful bar for a few moments. Enjoyed this episode a lot more, I think some of the editing was a little off-hand.
Will see if the consistency remains though throughout the season...
Posted by: Steve201 23rd October 2017, 11:42 PM
The priest is bound to be the next one to die!
Posted by: Jonjo 24th October 2017, 12:26 AM
Hope so!! I cannot stand him and I really have trust issues with him Season 7 was indeed the worst season to date. But it doesn't bother me so much, every TV series has a dud or two! Especially ones that run for 8 seasons +
Posted by: Steve201 24th October 2017, 09:34 PM
Yeh that's because he has only really come to be trusted by the group since Alexandria and even then there was a period when he rebelled against Rick!
Posted by: Steve201 31st October 2017, 11:13 PM
Have to say I had to take a check at who Morales was at the end of that episode!
Overall a good episode but too many gun fights and rousing speeches not enough talking interaction - and not even a glimpse of Negan & Father Gabriel!!
Posted by: Jacobites 1st November 2017, 12:34 AM
Yeah I agree it was a strange one. It built tension quite well but I was left thinking "get on with it" a lot, the firefights/ taking the building etc could've been done in half the episode and I'm not sure why so much screen time at the beginning and end of the episode (probably 2 or 3 minutes in total) was spent on pointless close ups of characters.
I remembered Morales though! Was really interesting to see him back although how has he ended up as a saviour in DC when last we heard he was heading from Atlanta to Alabama with his family? Wasn't really necessary to make it a "big revelation" and screen cuts to black moment either, we could've done with a bit more explanation in this episode but hopefully next week we'll see a bit more.
Posted by: Severin 1st November 2017, 10:54 PM
For me that was possibly the worst episode of the show yet. The show has become terrible over the last few seasons and everytime I watch it I feel like my IQ is dropping severely. It's become a procession of once interesting characters doing utterly stupid or implausible things. This weeks episode felt more like the A-Team than anything else except none of the characters are as strongly defined and consistent in their behaviour or interactions. Where it was once an interesting, character driven study of the lengths people would go to in order to survive in a world gone tits up it's now become a procession on dumb set pieces and forced confrontations to try and hide the fact that it has nothing to say anymore. Look at Morgan - always the Yin to Rick's Yang, but this week for no apparent reason his OP plot armour kicks in and years of careful character development is thrown out and he's suddlenly a f***ing T-1000 ninja killing machine. Bugs Bunny cartoons have more considered characters than this.
The plot is all over the place and it feels like the writers have reacted to criticism that last season was too slow and dialogue driven by making a 2 hour gunfight whose cohesion has more holes in it than a sieve.
Only a year ago I never thought I'd say Fear The Walking Dead was the better show but it's streets ahead right now and even that is quite shaky in places.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 7th November 2017, 12:22 PM
Agreed with everything you've said, Severin. This has seriously lost its way... it's a huge shame. A lot of the characters have become surreal and are behaving illogically, and the plot at this point is essentially "let's shoot everyone who stands in our way with our endless supply of bullets"*. Boring and stupid. Bleh!
* Like, how have they got such a huge supply of guns and ammunition? Did I miss something? Wasn't it just last season that they were resorting to Eugene having the expertise to make bullets? Now they have enough to fire aimlessly at a warehouse's windows (in the first episode of this season).
Posted by: Severin 13th November 2017, 07:10 PM
What should have been a great episode this week was again bogged down by 80s TV show action scenes, clunky dialogue and an ending that Game Of Thrones did far better not too long ago.
Shiva's a great character but terrible CGI. She reminds me constantly why the wolves are hardly in GOT
This article is also spot on
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/brutally-honest-reasons-why-the-walking-dead-should-be-canceled-soon.html/?a=viewall
Posted by: Kath 13th November 2017, 09:13 PM
I've watched it from the beginning but I swear to goodness ... I don't know why! Its just awful.
Posted by: Nick Jonas 13th November 2017, 09:29 PM
This is so bad.
Posted by: Kath 13th November 2017, 09:43 PM
The best actor in the whole thing! Gone! Poor Shiva!
Posted by: Mart!n 13th November 2017, 10:00 PM
What a poor episode, this season has been a gunfight and another gunfight each week, shooting each other, its hardly going anywhere, I'm really disappointed, its got no suspense no more it seems to have lose its way. And poor Sheba, I'm hoping a key character will get killed off soon, when the mid break comes in 2 weeks time.
Posted by: Jacob Alan 14th November 2017, 02:03 AM
Forgot to comment last week but turns out having Morales back was utterly pointless seeing as he was killed after mere minutes. Why even bring him back if the plan was just to kill him? I guess it ties up loose ends with what happened to him but it was a wasted opportunity.
This week was ok I guess - sad to see Shiva go - might be interesting to see how Ezekiel's affected. Still enjoying Carol but even with her there are still too many firefights. I'm so done with the ducking behind cover and machine guns thing. Everyone's still too separate, people surviving as a group was great.
That said, looks like the Kingdom's unravelling so maybe the cast will eventually be back together in one place? Idk, I'm still enjoying the show but I miss what I got from it in the early seasons. Also can the walkers become an actual threat again? I don't know how it'd be done but they seem so secondary.
Posted by: Jonjo 16th November 2017, 01:01 AM
I don't know what you're all drinking but I loved this weeks episode. I feel like it's starting to find it's way again a bit. A few minor niggles like what Jacob pointed out the whole ducking and cover and then firing aimlessly etc... Plus this is the most impact walkers have had for a while.
Tbh, bored of seeing the constant negativity towards this show online, BY THE SAME PEOPLE. If you really dislike it that much (and it's usually people saying shit like "I really hate this show"/"they haven't been good since season 4" or whatever) bore off, switch off and let those that still find entertainment in the show enjoy it.
P.s. This isn't necessarily aimed at anyone on here (although not everyone here is innocent ��). This is the one place where I can come and express what I want without being looked down for it.
I just don't understand why you'd continue watching if you really dislike it (and have done for so long) that much? :/
Edit: but overall, yeah. There needs to be a mass killing soon. Dwindle the numbers down to a select few.
Posted by: Kath 16th November 2017, 08:14 PM
Tbh, bored of seeing the constant negativity towards this show online, BY THE SAME PEOPLE. If you really dislike it that much (and it's usually people saying shit like "I really hate this show"/"they haven't been good since season 4" or whatever) bore off, switch off and let those that still find entertainment in the show enjoy it.
P.s. This isn't necessarily aimed at anyone on here (although not everyone here is innocent ��). This is the one place where I can come and express what I want without being looked down for it.
I just don't understand why you'd continue watching if you really dislike it (and have done for so long) that much? :/
Edit: but overall, yeah. There needs to be a mass killing soon. Dwindle the numbers down to a select few.
It really isn't what it used to be though Jonjo. I still watch it because there are a few characters that I'm still invested in - like Carol, Gabriel, Aaron and oddly enough - Dwight. Some characters are just plain boring now - Morgan and Jesus being the two main ones. Carol and Carl are the only two of the original group that I have any time for - and seriously - what use is Maggie? I'm tired of Jesus constantly singing her praises (has she done something of an immaculate nature off screen that we're unaware of?).
It is still fairly entertaining - but whereas once I'd eagerly sit down with a glass of wine and watch it with undivided attention - I find myself half watching while I'm playing online Scrabble or Word Feud.
Posted by: Jacob Alan 17th November 2017, 12:20 AM
Tbh, bored of seeing the constant negativity towards this show online, BY THE SAME PEOPLE. If you really dislike it that much (and it's usually people saying shit like "I really hate this show"/"they haven't been good since season 4" or whatever) bore off, switch off and let those that still find entertainment in the show enjoy it.
P.s. This isn't necessarily aimed at anyone on here (although not everyone here is innocent ��). This is the one place where I can come and express what I want without being looked down for it.
I just don't understand why you'd continue watching if you really dislike it (and have done for so long) that much? :/
Edit: but overall, yeah. There needs to be a mass killing soon. Dwindle the numbers down to a select few.
Posted by: Steve201 17th November 2017, 12:55 AM
Agree with jonjos point about a killing leaving a small group again!
Posted by: Jay ☆ 17th November 2017, 02:31 AM
I'm still watching partly because I feel invested in it (I mean, we're 100+ episodes & 7 years deep into this, that would be a hard habit to break!), but also because I think it still has some entertainment value. I don't hate the show! Criticism =/= hate. I think a viewer sharing what they believe to be weak spots in the show is worthy of discussion.
I actually do think the most recent episode was one of the better ones in a while! Mainly because it was the first time in ages that the walkers felt like a threat, rather than an inconvenience (Ezekiel was vulnerable and I actually felt anxious for him). Thumbs up for that! I would cite Rick & co randomly becoming superhuman and seeing off every last walker in Alexandria as being the moment the walkers lost their impact. In Season 3, while the Governor became the group's first major human enemy, the presence of the walkers still felt extremely formidable alongside that. So it'd be cool if the walkers could gain some of that "power" back.
I wasn't into the long and drawn out gunfights in Episode 1 & Episode 2, and (I know I’m repeating myself) the never-ending supply of bullets (which in my view is a sign of lazy writing). So, I prefer the "running out of bullets at an inopportune moment" occurrences of the past two episodes, because it feels more realistic and increases the tension.
Admittedly I'm ok with Shiva being written out; I wasn't too keen on the cartoon-y nature of her presence and the implausibility of her being able to tell who she should and shouldn't attack. Nevertheless, it made for sad viewing to see her demise.
I had grown somewhat tired of Ezekiel's shtick. (I completely get the explained reason for his persona, I just thought it was becoming way too exaggerated... he reached peak annoyance with the repetition of "And yet I smile" ). The traumatic events he's experienced should hopefully steer his character in a fresh and interesting direction, hopefully that of guilt & wanting to redeem himself / avenge the loss of his people (which was his fault really, because he brazenly lead them in the wide open when approaching an enemy's outpost... his misplaced overconfidence and them completely trusting in his theatrics, was their downfall).
I agree that the cast is very bloated at this point. Like, I genuinely didn't give a damn that Aaron's partner died, because we saw him maybe twice? I barely care about Aaron in all honesty. I agree with Jonjo that a mass killing of a lot of lesser characters would be a good call at some point (although I assume that won't happen too soon, because they'll need to keep the majority of their "army" for a showdown with Negan?). Characters I've previously really cared about have become subsidiary... like Michonne. I miss her!
Unfortunately I'm still finding the pacing to be a little on the slow side. It's already been a month since we last saw Negan and Gabriel, I'd say that's too long a gap for a cliff hanger. I'd also appreciate some episodes that are presented in a chronological order. I agree with this, from the Forbes review:
Imagine, instead, if we had fully understood what Rick and Daryl were after. Maybe a conversation with Dwight about these huge machine guns and where they were kept and how much damage they could do. Some map that showed which outposts each group was traveling to, so that we could latch onto the geography of this war. Then, when we learned that the guns had been moved to outpost X from outpost Y, we might feel dread and trepidation, just in time to see Ezekiel's forces laid low. Maybe Rick could have even said "That's where Carol's at. We need to warn them." Or something to that effect. Make these events matter rather than just happen. Without all this context, viewers can't fully appreciate what's going on. That's been the main problem with this season, though admittedly just one of many.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/11/12/the-walking-dead-season-8-episode-4-review-the-king-is-dead/#594c4d8b56c0
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Rotten Tomatoes scores for the first 4 episodes of Season 8:
Episode 1: 88%
Episode 2: 50%
Episode 3: 52%
Episode 4: 88%
Posted by: Severin 17th November 2017, 07:25 PM
I'll admit I've been critical lately and I think viewers should be if a show suffers such an obvious decline in quality. Therefore I will continue to do so because if people don't the show will continue to tread water in the same manner and it will continue to go downhill. I'm still watching because ultimately I hope it can reclaim previous glories and there's a certain amount of investment now.
The problem the show has (as the article I posted a link to points out)is an across the board dip in focus, quality, plotting and cohesion. Characters that we know are smart frequently behave erratically or are sidelined for long periods while the show has ceased to have any kind of real insight into it's core question - how would we cope in the aftermath? It's finally started being explicit about the question of whether Rick is the villain in his own story but most viewers have known that for so long it's now a redundant question. And Negan has the potential to be one of TVs greatest ever villains but as great as JD Morgan is even he can't bring nuance and depth to a character so poorly written.
There is hope - many of the main characters have great depth and a strong arc but it's all being ignored lately and right now the show seems mired in its own history - cursed to repeat the same cycle of events over and over. Andrew Lincoln's performance is the shows greatest strength - even when making irrational decisions he sells it totally, but Rick's continued presence is also holding the show back in many ways. Until the show does a Ned Stark on him it will struggle to moved forward purposefully.
That and a streamlining of the cast is becoming more necessary every week. TWD was at it's best when there was a tight familial unit struggling together and big A-Team style gunfights and hours of action sequences is leaving the show feeling hollow and bereft if any human element.
I want this show to be great again, I really do but right now Fear The Walking Dead is finding it's feet and a purpose and the parent show just needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and tweak its many small flaws to regain its footing. Right now Ezekiel could just be the character to do it
Posted by: jase. 18th November 2017, 12:21 AM
Off to the Walker Stalker convention in London next year Has anybody ever been?
Posted by: Severin 20th November 2017, 11:22 PM
A much, much better episode this week. Not perfect but going in a direction at least
Posted by: Rooney 21st November 2017, 12:04 AM
Best episode since season 5, easily.
Posted by: Steve201 23rd November 2017, 01:56 PM
Yeh did he actually see a helicopter??
Posted by: ChristmasEve201 28th November 2017, 11:17 PM
Episode 6 really good as well!
Posted by: jase. 28th November 2017, 11:37 PM
Yup it's definitely improving!
Posted by: ChristmasEve201 29th November 2017, 11:07 PM
Basically because we are past the ALL OUT WAR phase!
Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st December 2017, 02:59 AM
Very surprised that it's been so poorly received.
From my perspective it was certainly better than Episode 2/3 of this season.
Posted by: jase. 1st December 2017, 07:17 PM
So according to RT, that episode was the worst in the shows history? Get the f*** outta here
Posted by: Severin 2nd December 2017, 02:48 PM
Far from the worst. Although it wasn't great, it was ok but I think people are starting to see the shows flaws more often rather than being distracted or ignoring them
Posted by: Rooney 2nd December 2017, 03:54 PM
It's become cool to hate on the show now. Look it's not great (highly average is best mentioned) and will never match up to Seasons 4-5 when it was at its peak. But they're following pretty average source material and have a large bloated cast. I guess I struggle to see where the show is going. For me I much prefer the show when they're on the road as there is far more danger and it's more fun.
Posted by: Severin 3rd December 2017, 12:46 AM
The thing is that the show was conceived in part as 'a zombie movie that never ends' which sounds great in principle but unless you're able to constantly change the dynamic, for example, through changes in the cast or new and inventive plots we haven't seen or imagined before, then it will always ultimately become repetitive or tiresome. This is the pitfall TWD slowly stumbled into and has reacted against by trying to go in an all action direction for this season's beginning to the detriment of audience engagement.
TWD could be really good still but the quality control isn't there and you're right about them sticking too close to source material that isn't great for tv.
As an aside I caught an episode of season 1 whilst channel hopping the other day and the difference in quality was startling. Season 1 is genuinely brilliant.
Posted by: jase. 4th December 2017, 11:37 PM
"EUGENE! I was going for a handshake.."
Posted by: ChristmasEve201 5th December 2017, 01:43 AM
Was another good episode that, leading nicely up to the mid season finale - and from the sneak peak the Saviors survive!!
Posted by: Jonjo 11th December 2017, 10:44 PM
Best episode since about season 6 for me. I really feel like it's slowly finding it's groove again. Season 7 was pretty uneventful for the most part, but I feel S8 has been stronger. It's flawed, but honestly which show isn't? People are being over dramatic in their hate for the show nowadays I feel and it feels like they just hate on it for the sake of hating on it.
Meh. Whatever. I guess I'll just have to revel in the fact that I can still enjoy it (although a mass killing of the main characters soon please. There's too manyyyyy!!)
Posted by: Kath 12th December 2017, 07:56 PM
I suppose its all about opinions but I thought it was just awful. Aimless, rudderless and clueless. I'll admit - the twist at the end was unexpected but for me - it was also totally needless and unwelcome.
Posted by: breezyspice 13th December 2017, 06:38 PM
I still love this show and had more problems with previous seasons than I do with the latest - I like the quantity and quality of characters and the dynamics changing.
I felt a little redeemed in that I asked my partner a couple episodes ago "So... Carl..." and it turned out to be true but I still didn't think it would because of his place in the comics - it was one of those untouchable characters, I thought. I enjoy that readers of the comics can still be surprised and that it follows it's own canon.
I'm very much looking forward to its return in February!!
Posted by: ChristmasEve201 14th December 2017, 12:45 AM
The finale was brillant!!
Posted by: Severin 14th December 2017, 12:57 AM
For what it's worth I thought it was ok but nothing special. However, the ending, given the amount of hype, with even spoilthedead refusing to post leaks for the finale as it was 'too big', turned out to be a major let down. Hype said Daryl or Rick. Carl could be the smarter choice, short term but it felt underwhelming.
Posted by: Steve201 27th February 2018, 11:36 PM
Such a sad start to the second half of the season!
Got a feeling Lennie James' character is going mad and that may be why he goes off by himself and ends up in Fear the Walking Dead!
Posted by: Steve201 5th March 2018, 10:43 PM
That episode of walking dead was amazing better than the series opener - Simon is a dead man walking now!!
Posted by: _jase 6th March 2018, 01:21 AM
8B off to a really good start! Episode 10 was very good. I'm intrigued to see what happens with Simon now the tension has been ramped up with him and Negan and where the hell Jadis goes now!
Posted by: Steve201 6th March 2018, 10:57 PM
Yeh Simon will either overthrown Negan or is a dead man walking!!
Posted by: Rooney 6th March 2018, 11:59 PM
He's a definite goner. They're trying to sympathise Negan so that he will join the main group when everything eventually ends.
For what it's worth the past two episodes have been the best for a couple of years.
Posted by: Steve201 9th March 2018, 12:46 AM
Indeed enjoyable and for the first time in 2 series I can't wait for the next episode!
Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2018, 10:15 PM
OMFG this series is turning brillant - Is Simon like a Stalin figure???
Posted by: _jase 19th March 2018, 11:04 PM
Yup, 8B is brilliant so far! Jayne Atkinson I wonder if it's the last we'll see of Georgie until season 9?
Posted by: _jase 19th March 2018, 11:05 PM
I can't wait to see what happens with the inevitable Negan/Simon showdown. I really don't want Simon to die!
Posted by: Jacob~ 25th March 2018, 02:27 AM
Forgot to talk about it here but I've been watching, absolutely loving 8B so far, so so much better than all of 7. Loving what's going on with Simon and the Saviours rn.
Posted by: Steve201 26th March 2018, 09:41 PM
Not as good an episode tonight as they got stuck into the fight again straight away and I was struggling to follow the gun fights because it seemed like how could they not shoot Simon easy enough. The biological war was a bit like the fever in series 3!
Posted by: Steve201 3rd April 2018, 08:28 PM
Pity last nights episode was a bit of a filler although Jared got a great death. But they are building to the finale which should be great. I also can't wait to see Negan and Simons confrontation. Interesting to hear the history of Lucille also. The way the main leaders of the Saviours are dying I've a feeling that the finale could be the end of them with Negan moving into Ricks group and Simon being the Stalin figure and dying with the new characters slowly being introduced being the focus in series 9!
Posted by: _jase 3rd April 2018, 10:33 PM
Another good episode! I can't believe how relevant they'd made Jadis. I assume Negan picked her up at the end?
Booked walker stalker tickets for London next year
Posted by: Steve201 15th April 2018, 10:24 PM
Really looking forward to this weeks finale of the season - think it'll be the end for the Saviours!
Posted by: _jase 15th April 2018, 10:42 PM
Was GUTTED about Simon
But yeah, I'm really excited about the finale! Gonna have to avoid the internet pretty much all day tomorrow to avoid spoilers because I can't watch it until the night.
Posted by: Steve201 16th April 2018, 06:28 PM
Yeh Simon was a great character which makes me think tonight will be the end of the saviours.
Tonight's will take a lot to be as good as last weeks with the Simon-Dwight situation which is the most interesting story imo.
Posted by: Jonjo 16th April 2018, 09:57 PM
Really enjoyed the finale. However, the thing that doesn't sit well with me is Daryl suddenly siding with Maggie as quick as that? Like, huh?! So I'm not sure how I feel about where that potential storyline is going.. :/
Posted by: Steve201 16th April 2018, 11:12 PM
Yeh I enjoyed it too but as you say how have Maggie/Daryl now seem to be changing sides to start a civil war when their bond with Rick is surely so huge?
Also Dwight - like what the hell??
Posted by: Rooney 16th April 2018, 11:13 PM
I agree totally strange, I guess they are setting up some big Darryl vs Rick story as the end-game. I think it's a bit of a cheap twist really.
Posted by: Jacob~ 16th April 2018, 11:59 PM
Loved the finale, actually didn't expect that from Eugene at all. Didn't expect it to all go down like that so quickly either, I'm so happy the Saviours storyline seems to have been wrapped up now, next season will hopefully feel much fresher and more of the focus will shift back to the walkers (although don't get me wrong, they did get lots of great moments this season too).
Absolutely don't want to see infighting between Maggie/ Daryl and Rick/ Michonne, Jesus didn't seem like the kind of character to be in on something like that either. It seems out of character for Maggie to not even want to talk to Rick first either, or the fact she's blaming Michonne alongside him. It's not as if Rick's setting Negan free, isn't life imprisonment a fitting punishment for anyone?
A shame to see Dwight go but at least he wasn't killed. Hopefully we'll see more of him and maybe even Sherry.
Posted by: Steve201 17th April 2018, 08:28 PM
By all accounts Maggie/Lauren hasn't signed a new contract yet so maybe this is her end game. Wasn't believeable on Jesus' part as he is all against violence this series!
Posted by: Jonjo 17th April 2018, 09:01 PM
I am sure they'll come to new agreements with Lauren and Danai (both of whom aren't happy with the whole equal pay thing iirc).
You see Jesus, I don't know. I just took it that he was just listening to Maggie's advice/plan for now and not necessarily that he agreed to it as such (even if it is obvious that he will)
Daryl is still the biggest "are you joking?" For me. I get Maggie's frustration (although I do think it is silly that there wasn't a moment between her and Rick talking about it at least)
Posted by: Steve201 17th April 2018, 09:14 PM
Jesus could be in there just to spoil things for her too tho!
Posted by: _jase 17th April 2018, 10:28 PM
Well Rick and Daryl have had their problems this season so I wasn't that surprised by him tbh!
Gonna be super awkward if Lauren doesn't sign up for season 9 given what happened
Posted by: _jase 17th April 2018, 10:37 PM
Posted by: Rooney 19th April 2018, 09:13 PM
Also if you are not watching it, you need to watch Fear The Walking Dead.
Season 3 was better than the last 3 seasons of the original show and the latest premier of Season 4 is the best premiere I have seen for a while.
Posted by: _jase 19th April 2018, 09:21 PM
Echoing what Rooney said! I was apprehensive about continuing with Fear after the abomination that was the second season but season 3 was SO good! 4x1 was also brilliant.
Posted by: Steve201 19th April 2018, 10:07 PM
I 'liked' the first two series of Fear so looking forward to the 3rd. Usually purchase the boxsets from amazon as I don't have BT - prob buy it in he coming weeks to keep me going over the summer.
Posted by: Rooney 20th April 2018, 07:05 PM
The 3rd starts quite slow imo but gets much better as it goes on. 4x1 as Jase said is nothing short of fantastic.
It says something about the writing when Morgan and the two new characters are the ones you are rooting for when the original characters come and try to rob them!
Posted by: Steve201 20th April 2018, 11:50 PM
How many episodes?
Posted by: Rooney 29th May 2018, 11:10 PM
Massive news - looks like Andrew Lincoln is leaving the show at the end of Season 9.
Surely this means 10 Seasons and OUT - don't see how the show can continue without Rick.
Posted by: Steve201 2nd June 2018, 05:12 PM
Where did you see this?
Posted by: Rooney 2nd June 2018, 05:31 PM
It's literally everywhere!
https://deadline.com/2018/05/andrew-lincoln-the-walking-dead-leaving-season-9-amc-1202399473/
It's pretty much confirmed by the cast and crew in their Instagram posts.
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