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post 22nd May 2024, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(Sour Candy @ 22nd May 2024, 09:06 AM) *
Obsessed much? laugh.gif


Well I could say your obsessed with downplaying her success if we want to throw jabs happy.gif
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post 22nd May 2024, 07:02 PM
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Spotify Chart Update (21/05)

newright.png 01 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 803,790
newup.png 02 03 Billie Eilish – LUNCH 663,925 [*PEAK*]
newdown.png 03 02 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY 634,991
newright.png 04 04 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 606,952
newright.png 05 05 Hozier – Too Sweet 604,045
newright.png 06 06 Post Malone, Morgan Wallen – I Had Some Help (Feat. Morgan Wallen) 575,422
newright.png 07 07 Billie Eilish – CHIHIRO 522,917
newright.png 08 08 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 492,186
newright.png 09 09 Kendrick Lamar – Not Like Us 465,390
newup.png 10 11 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 390,976

newdown.png 11 10 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me 388,387
newup.png 12 13 Dasha – Austin 379,406
newdown.png 13 12 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 372,826
newright.png 14 14 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 347,321
newup.png 15 16 Myles Smith – Stargazing 338,670
newdown.png 16 15 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 328,170
newright.png 17 17 Billie Eilish – WILDFLOWER 327,799
newright.png 18 18 Billie Eilish – SKINNY 296,593
newup.png 19 20 Billie Eilish – L’AMOUR DE MA VIE 291,586
newup.png 20 21 Billie Eilish – BLUE 291,512

newdown.png 21 19 Billie Eilish – THE GREATEST 290,100
newup.png 22 23 Mark Ambor – Belong Together 283,168
newdown.png 23 22 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 273,793
newright.png 24 24 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 265,818
newup.png 25 28 Benson Boone – Slow It Down 255,320
newdown.png 26 25 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start 253,464
newright.png 27 27 Djo – End of Beginning 250,144
newup.png 28 29 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love) 248,096
newdown.png 29 26 Billie Eilish – THE DINER 240,283
newright.png 30 30 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 228,299

newright.png 31 31 Billie Eilish – BITTERSUITE 219,290
newright.png 32 32 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 192,245
newright.png 33 33 Taylor Swift – Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 185,482
newup.png 34 35 Taylor Swift – Down Bad 181,521
newup.png 35 36 Tate McRae – greedy 181,137
newdown.png 36 34 Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar – Like That 178,805
newup.png 37 38 SZA – Saturn 174,851
newdown.png 38 37 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words 172,781
newright.png 39 39 Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM 170,556
newright.png 40 40 Gunna – one of wun 166,011

newdown.png 42 41 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend 161,289
newdown.png 43 42 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 160,846
newup.png 44 47 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 158,821
newright.png 45 45 Harry Styles – As It Was 157,529
newdown.png 46 44 Kendrick Lamar – euphoria 156,172
newup.png 49 52 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait 150,676
newdown.png 50 46 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 150,167
newdown.png 56 55 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited 135,918
newdown.png 62 59 Tems – Love Me JeJe 132,293
newup.png 68 69 Good Neighbours – Home 126,087
newdown.png 70 67 Dua Lipa – Illusion 122,638
newup.png 79 83 Rudimental, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank, Riko Dan – Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan) 117,939
newdown.png 86 79 NewEra – Birds In The Sky 114,973
newdown.png 98 87 Tyla, Gunna, Skillibeng – Jump 108,514
newdown.png 99 84 Nemo – The Code 108,510

newup.png 108 179 Zerb, The Chainsmokers, Ink – Addicted 104,284
newdown.png 123 110 Charli XCX – 360 99,112
newdown.png 124 105 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker) 98,586
newdown.png 130 113 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only 97,561
newdown.png 132 130 Pozer – Malicious Intentions 96,879
newdown.png 154 153 Chappell Roan – Red Wine Supernova 91,228
newdown.png 158 152 Drake – Family Matters 90,335
newdown.png 160 144 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Tiësto, Dido, W&W, Dimitri Vegas, Like Mike – Thank You (Not So Bad) 90,117
newdown.png 167 139 Joost – Europapa 87,404
newdown.png 174 173 d4vd – Feel It - From The Original Series “Invincible” 85,617
newdown.png 179 175 Gracie Abrams – Risk 84,882
newdown.png 184 165 Jaxomy, Agatino Romero, Raffaella Carrà – Pedro 84,386
newup.png 186 196 Teddy Swims – The Door 84,200
newup.png 187 189 Chappell Roan – HOT TO GO! 83,549 [*PEAK*]
newup.png 192 199 Yeat – If We Being Rëal 82,811
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post 22nd May 2024, 07:06 PM
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Apple Music Chart Update (22/05)

newright.png 01 01 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
newright.png 02 02 Billie Eilish - LUNCH
newright.png 03 03 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
newright.png 04 04 Hozier - Too Sweet
newright.png 05 05 Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen)
newright.png 06 06 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things
newright.png 07 07 Billie Eilish - CHIHIRO
newright.png 08 08 Dasha - Austin
newright.png 09 09 Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)
newright.png 10 10 Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER

newright.png 11 11 Teddy Swims - Lose Control
newright.png 12 12 Myles Smith - Stargazing
newright.png 13 13 Noah Kahan - Stick Season
newright.png 14 14 Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
newright.png 15 15 Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER
newup.png 16 17 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us
newdown.png 17 16 Billie Eilish - SKINNY
newright.png 18 18 Billie Eilish - L’AMOUR DE MA VIE
newright.png 19 19 Billie Eilish - THE GREATEST
newright.png 20 20 Billie Eilish - BLUE

newright.png 21 21 Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
newright.png 22 22 Artemas - i like the way you kiss me
newup.png 23 27 Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love)
newdown.png 24 23 The Blessed Madonna - Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas)
newright.png 25 25 Dua Lipa - Illusion
newdown.png 26 24 Rudimental & Skepsis - Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan)
newdown.png 27 26 Billie Eilish - THE DINER
newright.png 28 28 Beyoncé - TEXAS HOLD 'EM
newup.png 29 31 Michael Marcagi - Scared To Start
newdown.png 30 29 NewEra - Birds In The Sky

newup.png 31 32 Taylor Swift - Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?
newdown.png 32 30 Billie Eilish - BITTERSUITE
newup.png 33 35 Taylor Swift - Down Bad
newright.png 34 34 Mark Ambor - Belong Together
newdown.png 35 33 Perrie - Forget About Us
newright.png 36 36 David Guetta & OneRepublic - I Don't Wanna Wait
newright.png 37 37 Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him
newright.png 38 38 Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer
newright.png 39 39 Taylor Swift - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
newup.png 40 41 Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department

newup.png 43 47 Benson Boone - Slow It Down
newright.png 44 44 Tems - Love Me JeJe
newdown.png 48 43 Alok, Tazi & Samuele Sartini - Seek Love (On The Beach) [feat. Amanda Wilson & York]
newdown.png 51 50 Becky Hill - Right Here
newright.png 53 53 Nathan Dawe - We Ain't Here for Long
newup.png 55 56 Myles Smith - Solo
newright.png 57 57 Good Neighbours - Home
newdown.png 60 59 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!
newup.png 61 62 Teddy Swims - The Door
newup.png 63 64 Future, Metro Boomin & Kendrick Lamar - Like That
newdown.png 66 61 Badger & Natasha Bedingfield - These Words
newdown.png 67 65 Gunna - one of wun
newdown.png 71 69 Zara Larsson & David Guetta - On My Love
newdown.png 72 71 John Summit, Sub Focus & Julia Church - Go Back
newup.png 74 77 Kendrick Lamar - euphoria
newdown.png 78 75 Jonas Blue, Galantis & Zoe Wees - Mountains
newdown.png 81 80 Charli XCX - 360
newdown.png 88 87 Drake - Family Matters
newup.png 90 91 Becky Hill - Outside Of Love
newdown.png 93 92 Sonny Fodera - Mind Still (feat. blythe)
newright.png 97 97 Tyla, Gunna & Skillibeng - Jump

newright.png 109 109 Amy Winehouse & Mark Ronson - Valerie
newup.png 111 117 Kygo & Zak Abel - For Life (feat. Nile Rodgers)
newdown.png 118 102 Gunna - on one tonight
newdown.png 120 113 Headie One & Stormzy - Cry No More (feat. Tay Keith)
newdown.png 134 130 Lay Bankz - Tell Ur Girlfriend
newdown.png 156 133 Nemo - The Code
newdown.png 173 171 Bakar - Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker)
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post 22nd May 2024, 07:48 PM
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Shame Olivia hadn’t seen much of an uplift after 4 sold out nights at the O2 as well as other uk shows, she was absolutely amazing live!
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post 22nd May 2024, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Blob @ 21st May 2024, 11:40 AM) *
Does anyone know why streams at the top of the chart have skyrocketed recently?

It's great to see, but I can't think of a reason that explains it happening so drastically and so suddenly. I get why Taylor, etc. would have huge streams but what about all the other songs.

Have loads of people simulatenously decided they like current pop music again? I can't figure it out.

When it first happened I thought it was just coincidentally a few big hits at the same time but it's happening again and again and again and I think it's just the new normal now. But why? It annoys me when a big shift happens in the music market and I can't figure out the reason.


This is a really interesting question, maybe one that deserves its own thread? Something seems to have changed quite recently in the streaming volumes, and I’d be interested to see if there’s any correlation with the very sudden and dramatic drop in UK acts and especially new UK acts getting anywhere high in the charts- are the autoplay algorithms favouring international acts over local acts, are some international streaming subscribers being miscounted as UK users?
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post 22nd May 2024, 08:13 PM
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Billie Eilish Amazon Update:

13. "CHIHIRO"
16. "LUNCH"
19. "WILDFLOWER"
28. "BIRDS OF A FEATHER"
30. "SKINNY"
31. "BLUE"
69. "THE GREATEST"
112. "L'AMOUR DE MA VIE"
132. "THE DINER"
160. "BITTERSUITE"

Over half the album now in the top 40. Really impressed with how well it's held up/climbed throughout the week. The top songs seem to still be climbing so won't be surprised if a couple of them are in the top 10 soon.
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post 22nd May 2024, 09:13 PM
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I think the bad moment for UK artists in the singles chart is cos nowadays what matters is Tiktok
2 years ago it was Hot Hits but now they cannot break hits anymore
Hot Hits used to break a lot of hits, especially UK ones
now it's all about Tiktok and the songs that become big there are global hits not UK ones

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post 22nd May 2024, 09:16 PM
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TikTok's been a big factor for years, this isn't new.
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post 22nd May 2024, 11:44 PM
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Meh, I much prefer Hot Hits not having a complete monopoly on everything. That's what made 2016 such a hellish year.
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post 23rd May 2024, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(Jessie Where @ 23rd May 2024, 12:44 AM) *
Meh, I much prefer Hot Hits not having a complete monopoly on everything. That's what made 2016 such a hellish year.


Yeah agreed.

2016 took hellscape chart sluggishness to a new level. Let's not think we were better off there.
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post 23rd May 2024, 06:03 AM
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tiktok has been a thing for ages but in the past the top 10 would be 8 songs pushed by Hot Hits and 2 from Tiktok
now it's 10 from Tiktok
and since Tiktokt is a global thing, make sense to me that those 10 songs are not from the UK


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post 23rd May 2024, 07:42 AM
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If the US goes through with their Tiktok ban it could all shift again in the next few months.
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post 23rd May 2024, 09:02 AM
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I find it weird that even the US-based Tiktok hits are bigger in the UK than domestically. Like the Mark Ambor and Michael Marcagi songs, Stick Season etc.
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post 23rd May 2024, 09:54 AM
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I’m here for new chart changes.

One thing I’ve enjoyed more lately is that physical formats in CDs are more of a thing (again) and cassettes etc obviously they’re more of a short term boost but I do like that there’s still little incentives for a physical.

The chart is a bit more interesting to follow now than it was from 2016-2019 though (2016 especially was definitely a struggle like others have said) I think the 2020s decade and lockdown in a way made the charts a bit more exciting again.

In terms of the UK I think it’s actually the album chart what needs looking at more than the singles chart (I’m definitely one of those who agrees with ACR on the whole and definitely in terms of the the tracks per artist rule)
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post 23rd May 2024, 10:04 AM
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Billie not far behind Sabrina today
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post 23rd May 2024, 10:35 AM
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I'm not following that "2016 was bad" discourse - was it the quality of songs? 2017 was way worse imo.
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post 23rd May 2024, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Sour Candy @ 23rd May 2024, 11:35 AM) *
I'm not following that "2016 was bad" discourse - was it the quality of songs? 2017 was way worse imo.


2017 had the Spanish-pop revival though tongue.gif I've always viewed 2015-2016 as poor years. Very stagnant chart, not my sort of music, Drake being the hot thing.
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post 23rd May 2024, 10:52 AM
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I didn't like Despacito or Havana much so maybe that's the reason lol

(not to mention Shape of You puke.gif )


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post 23rd May 2024, 10:55 AM
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Shame Things Can Only Get Better didn’t manage to scrape into the top 200 seeing as it was used to drown out Rishi’s speech
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post 23rd May 2024, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Sour Candy @ 23rd May 2024, 11:35 AM) *
I'm not following that "2016 was bad" discourse - was it the quality of songs? 2017 was way worse imo.


Well yes, because of everybody trying to get on the Hot Hits playlist everything either sounded like mid-tempo cheap Cassio keyboard "tropical" or like that printer jamming Chainsmokers sound, and the chart was the most stagnant and sluggish it had ever been.

2017 wasn't much better, but things started to improve a little bit after that.
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