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 Feb 23 2020, 05:41 PM
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It's not exactly the biggest shock in history - or even this week. It is common practice for politicians to choose a change of leadership as the time to stand down.
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Feb 26 2020, 05:51 PM
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This is looking like a done deal at this point. I wonder how things would look if Angela Rayner was running for leader instead. |
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Feb 26 2020, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Feb 26 2020, 05:51 PM)  This is looking like a done deal at this point. I wonder how things would look if Angela Rayner was running for leader instead. Good question. Wonder if she could have run Starmer a close race. |
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Feb 27 2020, 12:22 AM
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Think these two will be the perfect partnership - Rayner for the left and Starmer to unite the right.
Wonder who the shadow chancellor will be? |
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Feb 27 2020, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Feb 27 2020, 12:22 AM) Think these two will be the perfect partnership - Rayner for the left and Starmer to unite the right. Wonder who the shadow chancellor will be? Maybe Rebecca Long-Bailey. Some speculation that he may keep Thornberry where she is. I'd bring Yvette Cooper back too as Shadow Home Secretary. |
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Feb 27 2020, 11:45 PM
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I would imagine there will be a Mix this time with old centrists like Cooper and new right wingers alongside Long-Bailey etc.
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Feb 28 2020, 07:18 AM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Feb 27 2020, 11:45 PM) I would imagine there will be a Mix this time with old centrists like Cooper and new right wingers alongside Long-Bailey etc. Yes I think so Steve. A nice balance. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: Feb 28 2020, 07:21 AM |
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Mar 12 2020, 04:09 PM
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The April 4th special Labour party conference, at which the new leader was to be announced, has been cancelled and the result will now be announced in a low-key affair.
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Mar 12 2020, 10:55 PM
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Aww was hoping they would have postponed the election of a new labour leader because of the coronavirus and just kept Corbyn as leader for most of the year! He's been quite good as opposition leader in Parliament recently.
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Mar 12 2020, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 12 2020, 10:55 PM) Aww was hoping they would have postponed the election of a new labour leader because of the coronavirus and just kept Corbyn as leader for most of the year! He's been quite good as opposition leader in Parliament recently. Must say he's been good at PMQ's these last few weeks. |
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Mar 13 2020, 02:17 PM
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Corbyn, for his faults I do feel really comes alive in a debate setting and he's often on fire at the dispatch box.
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Mar 14 2020, 01:01 PM
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The lack of opposition from any of the leadership candidates, as well as the unions, is ridiculous. They could be talking about the NHS, mandatory sick leave, and so on. Reassuring us of their potential leadership in a crisis. There is nothing.
Compare that to Bernie Sanders who is consistently countering Trump on his mistakes and the need for free healthcare, etc. |
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Mar 14 2020, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Mar 14 2020, 01:01 PM) The lack of opposition from any of the leadership candidates, as well as the unions, is ridiculous. They could be talking about the NHS, mandatory sick leave, and so on. Reassuring us of their potential leadership in a crisis. There is nothing. Compare that to Bernie Sanders who is consistently countering Trump on his mistakes and the need for free healthcare, etc. That's a good point. Where are Starmer, Nandy and RLB in all this? You'd think they'd be on TV and radio, even if only to criticise the government but no,nothing at all. I watch a lot of the news channels and never seen one of them. |
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Mar 14 2020, 05:36 PM
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Well I don't think that there will be much criticism of the Government DURING the crisis unless things become really bad, because to do so would potentially undermine public confidence/trust and make things even worse. That said, you would expect a little more debate and discussion about these issues.
Incidentally Jezza put out this statement: 
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Mar 14 2020, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Mar 14 2020, 05:36 PM) Well I don't think that there will be much criticism of the Government DURING the crisis unless things become really bad, because to do so would potentially undermine public confidence/trust and make things even worse. That said, you would expect a little more debate and discussion about these issues. It doesn't have to be criticism – anything would be good. It's difficult not to compare the silence from Starmer to Sanders or even Bill de Blasio. This post has been edited by blacksquare: Mar 14 2020, 06:15 PM |
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Mar 14 2020, 06:11 PM
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Is it possible that the government has blocked internal criticism during one of their COBRA meetings? Silence from all corners strikes me as odd & out of character from at the very least RLB.
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Mar 14 2020, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 14 2020, 06:11 PM) Is it possible that the government has blocked internal criticism during one of their COBRA meetings? Silence from all corners strikes me as odd & out of character from at the very least RLB. It hasn't stopped Dawn Butler. I'm not trying to be unfairly critical, and of course, there could be other factors, but I value the opinion of the opposition and it's been worrying lacking. This post has been edited by blacksquare: Mar 14 2020, 06:17 PM |
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Mar 14 2020, 06:58 PM
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Opposition leaders were at a CONRA meeting last week. It isn't clear whether they heard the advice directly from the experts or were given a version of it by a minister.
One focus for the opposition parties should perhaps be the effect on workers in the gig economy. There still seems to be a very high risk that people such as Deliveroo drivers will turn up for work to avoid losing pay even if they feel unwell. It applies to other people too. I do supply work in schools. If the schools close, I won't get any of that work. Will I get anything to make up for what I would have earned? I am due to work in a summer school for six weeks in July and August. What if that is cancelled? |
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Apr 1 2020, 04:19 PM
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Why don’t you say so?
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Voted for Keir Starmer. It will be interesting to see the results this week.
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Apr 1 2020, 04:43 PM
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Result announced on Saturday morning. Sure to be Starmer. More interested in who will be in his shadow cabinet and in what roles.
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