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Posted by: Jay ☆ 31st October 2019, 03:15 AM

If mods would be happier with this topic being in R&B, that's ok! I thought it would be a nice idea to have a general topic for this iconic song.




2019 marks 25 years since Mariah released her tremendously successful Christmas single 'All I Want for Christmas Is You'!

It appears that Mariah is aiming for the song to finally reach #1 in the US, with the help of some brand new physical singles! It's being released on CD, red cassette, green cassette, 7" vinyl and 12" vinyl, with a shipping date of 20th December. This will coincide with the chart week that Mariah would be most likely be able to climb to the top of the Billboard Hot 100. If anyone is interested in ordering them, they're available here: https://mariahcareyshop.com/collections/featured-items It would be incredible if it manages to reach #1 there (prior to now its best position was #3, achieved last year). It would also become her 19th #1 hit overall. Fingers crossed! *.*

In the UK, chart fans will know that the single has stalled at #2 in three different years. 1994: East 17 - Stay Another Day / 2017: Ed Sheeran - Perfect / 2018: Ava Max - Sweet But Psycho (she outsold Mariah by just 152 sales ). Could this year be the year Mariah manages #1? Physicals are also being released here, but only the 7" vinyl & green cassette: https://mariahcareyshopuk.com/



Mariah is the new face of Walkers Crisps this year! *.* It seems that TV adverts will begin airing from November 2nd, and her face will appear on packets. Iconic!!

Posted by: Spiceboy 31st October 2019, 10:10 AM

Her face is on the packets when Spice Girls weren't earlier this year?!?!?

Posted by: ___∆___ 31st October 2019, 10:42 AM

Pre-ordered the 7” and cassette from the UK website - I’m here for a Christmas Mariah #1 in 2019 The Walkers promo and ads should help massively with streaming, the record company could request it being reset as a new release to get the sales if they are releasing new physicals?!

Posted by: Steve201 31st October 2019, 06:10 PM

Hope the can be a December no1 this year!

Posted by: pippa 31st October 2019, 06:21 PM

The physicals are an excellent idea and Mariah should promote where possible in both the US and UK as combined, it could help the song to finally go Number 1 which would be richly deserved.
With the George Michael Bio out this year, it could put Last Christmas with the advantage for Wham.
Maybe both could have a week at Number 1 but I would greatly welcome Mariah more to do it.
Mariah was completely robbed of Number 1 last year.

Posted by: danG 31st October 2019, 06:36 PM

This year is her best chance yet to go #1, as long as we don't get a big December release from Adele or Ed Sheeran I think she should do it.

She'll have huge streams from Fri 20th to Wed 25th, then Thursday's will be estimated (I suspect they'll be using previous year's Boxing Day trends, but last year she was still as high as #4 on Spotify then).

Of course there's the possibility that Wham could do it as well but that would also be a great result.

Posted by: pippa 31st October 2019, 06:53 PM

The physicial could help add a few thousand in that all crucial week.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 31st October 2019, 09:38 PM

Great news il def be supporting my fave christmas song where I can.

Posted by: dobbo 31st October 2019, 09:56 PM

So is she definitely NOT gonna be on ACR this year then? Seems like a very solid shout then although she wasn't on ACR in 2017 either but the days line up better this time.

Posted by: lewistgreen 31st October 2019, 10:01 PM

When are the physicals out in the UK? The Christmas #1 will be revealed on the 20th this year

Posted by: Bréxit 31st October 2019, 10:12 PM

She will be unless someone on team Mariah goes out of their way for it to not be. I reckon it'll get the #1 this year regardless though and it'll have plenty more chances to go to #1 again in future years unless the OCC really go nuclear against Christmas songs for whatever reason.

Posted by: slowdown73 31st October 2019, 10:22 PM

I might get the CD single for the extended dance mix.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 31st October 2019, 11:57 PM

Oddly the UK store doesn't say when they're being sent out, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're dispatched on 20th December here too! Mariah's best chance for #1 is the week after Christmas #1. As Dan mentions, her streams will be at their strongest during that week:



I'd love it if she could do it a week earlier and be Christmas #1 though

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st November 2019, 01:33 PM

A new music video has been released today, consisting of previously unseen footage from the video shoot!



Get those extra video streams, Mimi *.*

Posted by: pippa 1st November 2019, 01:37 PM

This year really presents a strong opportunity for the song to get to Number 1.
This could add real excitement to the Christmas chart, or the week following it.

Posted by: BillyH 1st November 2019, 03:04 PM

It seems bizarre to think that I don't remember hearing this song at all until about 1999-2000 - it was big the year it was released (when I was slightly too young to be following chart music), but for most of the 1990s the kings of the Christmas songs were very much Slade and Wizzard, as they had been 20 years earlier. When it became the first song I downloaded on mp3 back in 2002, it still felt like an obscure forgotten classic that you'd only occasionally see on the odd music channel if they were having a festive marathon.

I feel like 'Love Actually' (released November 2003) followed by the download boom was what got this very much onto the A-list, eventually ruling above everything by the end of that decade and into the next. Similar to how Fairytale of New York seemed to gain a lot more attention following two events - Kirsty MacColl's sad death in 2000, and the high-profile physical reissue of the song in 2005 which reached #3.

Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2019, 03:05 PM

This is and probably always will be THE Christmas song for me. It's the only one of the usual classics I'll actively listen to because it simply brings me so much joy every single time. I'm giving it my first play of the year as I type this post, it's Mariah season for the next 2 months now *.*

The gap of 152 sales last year still makes me feel sad, so I'm PRAYING this is the year that Mariah claims her rightful #1!!

Posted by: pippa 1st November 2019, 07:33 PM

It is always the Christmas song i enjoy the most, it has everything that is needed for the classic Christmas hit and none of the other songs come close to it.
There are others i enjoy, but, not to the same level as the joyful All I Want For Christmas Is You.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st November 2019, 09:20 PM

It's a real feel good christmas song.

Posted by: Bloodjerdling 1st November 2019, 09:24 PM

Tempted to get a vinyl as I don't have any Christmas music in my collection and I'd enjoy seeing this re-peak a whole 25 years later *.*

Posted by: Peentergeist 1st November 2019, 09:26 PM

Hopefully she gets a reset in UK after they stole the no.1 last year!!!

Posted by: joyride 2nd November 2019, 03:08 AM

Have reached out to her team, regarding the reset. Hopefully they can work their magic!.

The 7" and cassette will ship on the 20th from the UK.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd November 2019, 08:59 AM

This is how I remember it too! Like you, I was too young when it came out (I was 6 and paid no attention to celebrities/music/charts), so it passed me by that year. I don't really have any recollection of hearing it throughout the 90s either! I can't remember when I first heard it, but it must have been in advance of Love Actually because I remember knowing the song when I saw that movie. I agree that its inclusion in Love Actually seemed to be a turning point in the song being regarded as something of a classic!


I really hope they are able to reset it! If they can pull that off, then I think #1 would absolutely be in the bag.

I fear that the physicals won't arrive before Christmas day, but from a chart perspective I am glad about that timing!



Can we just take a moment to appreciate her social media? This is great -

Posted by: Freddie Kruger 2nd November 2019, 09:27 AM

Would be great if this Christmas classic got to No.1.

Wouldn't mind if it was Wham either and Mariah next year.

Posted by: Big Boobs Vjaay 2nd November 2019, 09:35 AM

Thanks!!

Posted by: dandy* 2nd November 2019, 10:00 AM

Still makes me giggle.

Posted by: Medellíam 2nd November 2019, 03:12 PM

Lol, I saw these in Tesco the other day and thought it was Mariah on first glance but on second look thought it couldn't be. It's like one of those dodgy waxworks!

Posted by: Lukuzz 2nd November 2019, 06:07 PM

Hopefully if it's got a cassette and vinyl release it will also get a rest and get streamed and finally get that number 1 it deserves!

Posted by: T Boy 2nd November 2019, 06:25 PM

I definitely first heard it in the late 90s, every year the video was on TOTP2. Local radio used to hammer it at Christmas too particularly in the early 00s. I also remember them playing Samantha Mumba’s woeful version. I guess it may have had more uptake from Love Actually but I didn’t notice the difference. I always liked it but I didn’t have it on any compilation until Christmas Hits in 2004. But I think I only realised how generally popular it was in 2007 when it could rechart.

I do remember us going crazy in a club the Summer before when the DJ announced that it was 6 months until Christmas and they played a mashup of this, the pogues, Slade and Wizzard which are my favourite Christmas songs.

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd November 2019, 09:05 AM

Posted by: Steve201 3rd November 2019, 10:51 AM

If she's taken off ACR then she will have huge sales!

Posted by: Tombo 3rd November 2019, 02:38 PM

The Walkers advert is great. Mariah always seems to be in good adverts.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2019, 05:07 PM

Surely as she is re promoting plus new physical will take her off acr.

Posted by: joyride 3rd November 2019, 06:54 PM

I think it depends on age tbh, most people born early 80's and onwards will say that the song has always had a presence since it's release. When I think back to radio in the late 90s, this song as well as Fairytale of New York, Christmas Wrapping, I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday and Merry Xmas Everybody are the standouts that got heavy play. And the music video was always on MTV and The Box with the likes of East 17 and all the other classics.

People like to credit Love Actually with it's re-emergence when it's simply just down to the song being made available to purchase as an MP3. It's peaks on the download chart: #5 2004, #2 2005 and #2 2006 and had it been allowed to chart in the latter year it would have been top 10 on the official charts.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 4th November 2019, 11:04 PM

The tiny nibble of a crisp is everything

Mimi serving choreography!



https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2019/11/01/mariah-carey-looks-back-all-want-christmas-you-25/4079789002/




Funny to see this clip from 1994 where she's asked if she hopes one of her Christmas songs will go on to be considered a classic. That certainly happened

Posted by: Medellíam 4th November 2019, 11:17 PM

Who knew Mariah had such a sense of humour?!

Posted by: joyride 8th November 2019, 09:19 PM

It hasn't been reset so it'll be down to the fans to get it to #1. The cassette and vinyl are still available on her UK shop https://mariahcareyshopuk.com/

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th November 2019, 09:20 PM

It’ll need to do like 160k before ACR!

Posted by: fans for hilson 8th November 2019, 10:23 PM

How can she get reset? Would a remake qualify as a reset or?

Posted by: lewistgreen 8th November 2019, 10:38 PM

The label need to request it but the main thing is a 25% surge in streams however this may not be given because it’s over 3 years old... Tbh I doubt she’ll need to come off ACR

Posted by: JosephStyles 8th November 2019, 10:39 PM

Which isn't relevant for Mariah, the 25% rule isn't applicable to songs older than 3 years. It's meant to be on permanent ACR, but Lizzo's Good As Hell got a reset regardless thanks to its current single promotion. Mariah's label could technically apply to the OCC, but it's not going to happen otherwise.

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 12:20 AM

The OCC have blocked Mariah from entering the Top 100 this week. AIWFCIY is number 57 on sales and 63 on streaming yet is nowhere to be seen. What a joke.

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th November 2019, 12:25 AM

It's because it's on the accelerated ratio

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 01:43 AM

Are you able to see where she is in the Top 200.

Howcome Chris Brown featuring Drake is at number 99 if they're on ACR and only at number 59 in streaming but not charting on sales?. I do not get these charts and wish they would have left it as it is.

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th November 2019, 12:24 PM

There is no top 200 any longer, it's top 100 or nothing.

No Guidance is #65 in the audio streaming chart, while Mariah is #81 - that alone clarifies why No Guidance is charting and Mariah is not, it has more streams even on the accelerated ratio...!

Posted by: dobbo 9th November 2019, 12:52 PM

Hmmm can't see it happening now then, that's SUCH a massive scaling down.

Posted by: Bré 9th November 2019, 12:55 PM

^ it will have a massive lead over everything else (except other Christmas songs which are also on ACR) in its peak week though. It was very close to getting #1 last year and the rules haven't changed since then, it most likely will get there this year unless there's a very strong new release around, or Wham! does a lot better due to the film.

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 12:57 PM

Do they not count video streams towards the charts?

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th November 2019, 01:04 PM

They do - No Guidance is #48 on video streams vs #43 for Mariah, not a significant enough difference!

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 01:09 PM

Her streams are up roughly 20% this year, so hopefully she'll do around 6.4million on Spotify for the week!

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 01:29 PM

Still seems iffy to me. I understand there's an audio and video streaming chart and together they combine to make the streaming chart? Unless I'm mistaken. But it's not making any sense.

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th November 2019, 03:46 PM

Apologies for confusion - yes, the audio and video streaming charts together make up the overall streaming chart. With No Guidance at #99, it's likely Mariah's sales advantage wasn't enough to overcome it.

Another theory is that No Guidance has performed better on premium streams (from paid Spotify subscriptions as well as Apple Music, Amazon Music, Tidal, etc) than Mariah. Premium streams are weighted higher than ad-funded streams (e.g. free Spotify) and this is not reflected in the streaming chart (which is simply a ranking of the total weekly streams of each song).

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 05:04 PM

The sales advantage not being enough is plausible but doubt comes in when I analyse it.

.................. Streaming .........Sales .........Chart
Shortgun ........... 58 ......... 67 ......... 87
No guidance......... 59 ......... DNC ......... 99
Shallow ........... 60 ......... 49 ......... 89
All I Want ......... 63 ......... 57 ......... DNC
Truth Hurts........... 64 ......... 87 ......... 88
Wish You Well......... 65 ......... DNC ......... 100

AIW did better on streams and sales than WYW, yet the latter was able to chart at 100 Call me paranoid but I wouldn't put manipulation past them, they screwed her out of number one last year with whatever crap they invented for her Thursday streams.

And if they do that second theory, they're even more crazy than I thought lol.

Posted by: Mike4Jade 9th November 2019, 05:15 PM

Not sure why you care so much that a Christmas song hasn’t charted this week when it’s still early November?!

Posted by: joyride 9th November 2019, 06:02 PM

Because it sets the pace for December and I know that they were furious their silly streaming rules didn't stop Xmas songs from flooding the charts last year. If they aren't giving correct data now, they certainly won't later. I'm so invested in AIW and need to see it go #1

Posted by: dobbo 9th November 2019, 06:15 PM

I agree. In fact I'm extremely surprised they didn't ban Xmas songs altogether or create a separate chart as it was clear they were fuming over the invasion last year after their futile attempt to at least cull them. Very happy this doesn't appear to be the case! For one more year at least anyway...

Posted by: Big Boobs Vjay! 9th November 2019, 07:13 PM

The charts are completely fake and Mariah was last year's no.1, ehethee rhe fake company accepts it or not

Posted by: Bré 9th November 2019, 07:32 PM

What exactly would motivate the OCC to manipulate Mariah to be outside the top 100 rather than #98 or whatever...?

The premium vs. free streams thing isn't a 'theory', that is the rule the OCC uses and it's why there are sometimes discrepancies between the streaming-only chart and the overall chart. 'Wish You Well' is higher on the audio streaming chart while 'All I Want For Christmas Is You' is higher on the video streaming chart (enough so that it's the higher of the two on the combined streaming chart), most video streams are from YouTube which counts as free streams and is thus weighted less heavily. It won't be a huge difference so she was likely only just short of entering the top 100.

Posted by: lewistgreen 9th November 2019, 07:33 PM

Have they got a new secret rule preventing Christmas songs charting before December maybe? 👀

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th November 2019, 08:14 PM

Number 90 here in Ireland this week

Posted by: Mack. 9th November 2019, 08:53 PM

Already the justice for Mariah conspiracy theories are out in the first chart week of November.

Posted by: danG 9th November 2019, 09:18 PM

I am half expecting the OCC to just ban outright songs older than 3 years rather than just have them on permanent ACR after we inevitably get about 30 Christmas songs in the top 40 this year. We may as well make the most of it while we can.

Posted by: Bjork 9th November 2019, 09:19 PM

Mariah is new at #17 on the Youtube chart (https://kworb.net/youtube/insights/uk_daily.html)
another Xmas song is also in, Ed Sheehan-Perfect at #20

Posted by: Big Boobs Vjay! 9th November 2019, 10:07 PM

Not conspiracy when it's true.

Posted by: pippa 11th November 2019, 02:40 PM

Yes, very true, Mariah was so robbed of the Christmas Number 1 in 2018.

Posted by: pippa 11th November 2019, 07:37 PM

Number 82 in the midweek information released today.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th November 2019, 11:21 PM

Might make its way to the top 75 this week.

Posted by: pippa 12th November 2019, 09:33 PM

I would hugely welcome it to get there this week.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 13th November 2019, 11:07 PM

7" and green cassette are both showing as being sold out on the UK store... and I didn't get around to ordering either! I hope more will be stocked here. If not, that would be rather short sighted of her team!

There's currently 8731 copies of the 7" stocked on the US store, and 791 green cassettes :')

Posted by: kye 14th November 2019, 12:07 AM

so i may have gone a little overboard last week + bought this on cd single, red cassette, green cassette + 7” vinyl

Posted by: Steve201 14th November 2019, 12:22 AM

Can you only buy this in her uk store? How many were in stock?

Posted by: common sense 14th November 2019, 12:28 AM

Didn't think they were even released yet!

Posted by: kye 14th November 2019, 12:33 AM

it’s a mixture of uk + us stores but as jay said, they’ve ‘sold out’ on the uk store.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th November 2019, 11:05 AM

They should issue more and get the sales as it will all help in the battle for number 1.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 27th November 2019, 02:55 AM

UK: Midweek #34 on Tues 26th Nov! If it was on SCR, it would be midweek #14!


Its full chart run:


#02, 116 weeks+ All I Want for Christmas Is You

(1st Entry: 04.12.94) 05-02-02-02-08-28-50-77-100-97-91-106-119-59-80-76-104-177-out (18 weeks)
(2nd Entry: 07.01.07) 194-out (1 week)
(3rd Entry: 04.11.07) 163-105-78-46-23-08-04-06-20-out (9 weeks)
(4th Entry: 02.11.08) 151-104-59-45-37-17-12-17-25-out (9 weeks)
(5th Entry: 08.11.09) 171-113-77-51-29-19-21-18-out (8 weeks)
(6th Entry: 07.11.10) 186-132-96-48-22-23-25-31-out (8 weeks)
(7th Entry: 06.11.11) 181-145-100-64-27-12-11-17-115-out (9 weeks)
(8th Entry: 11.11.12) 156-88-56-30-20-21-20-55-out (8 weeks)
(9th Entry: 10.11.13) 187-98-68-47-14-12-13-30-out (8 weeks)
(10th Entry: 16.11.14) 146-68-52-17-16-18-20-out (7 weeks)
(11th Entry: 20.11.15) 154-94-35-13-12-11-37-out (7 weeks)
(12th Entry: 11.11.16) 177-118-72-29-06-08-05-05-out (8 weeks)
(13th Entry: 10.11.17) 89-88-34-22-05-02-04-04-out (8 weeks)
(14th Entry: 23.11.18) 65-34-06-05-04-02-out (6 weeks)
(15th Entry: 15.11.19) 77-59... (2 weeks+)

Note that the OCC chart run for 1994/95 differs from the above chart run (the 76-200 positions data from the top 200, from 1994 to 2001, was compiled by a different company - Hit Music)

OCC version:

(1st Entry: 04.12.94) 05-02-02-02-08-28-50-out (7 weeks)
(2nd Entry: 05.02.95) 87-83-93-100-59-79-76-out (7 weeks)

To date it's managed 61 weeks in the Top 40 / 40 weeks in the Top 20 / 20 weeks in the Top 10 / 14 weeks in the Top 5! Positions it has yet to place at in the top 40 are: 1, 3, 7, 9, 10, 15, 24, 26, 32, 33, 36, 38, 39, 40



It's off to a great start in the US too! Re-entered at #39 and then moved up to #31 in the most recent chart.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th November 2019, 12:33 AM

This one we're not going to talk about, I mean... I don't know what to say, but...

Posted by: joyride 28th November 2019, 05:00 PM

They've finally given her website a much needed festive makeover. Check out the advent calender style Christmas countdown

https://www.mariahcarey.com/

Posted by: Big Boobs Vjay! 28th November 2019, 05:13 PM

It actually reached no.1 x The OCC stole it from her and gave it to a one hit wonder.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th November 2019, 06:06 PM

It will be an exciting chart watch for it this year.

Posted by: common sense 28th November 2019, 06:16 PM

Yes for this and to see how Wham do too. Maybe both top 3? Even 1 and 2?

Posted by: common sense 28th November 2019, 06:16 PM

Yes for this and to see how Wham do too. Maybe both top 3? Even 1 and 2?

Posted by: Steve201 29th November 2019, 01:17 AM

They will only continually be no1 on streams in the week after the Xmas chart, that'll be the interesting week. Looking forward to seeing it back in the chart tomorrow, wonder if they'll skip it this week as it's still November??

Posted by: pippa 29th November 2019, 03:17 PM

For fans of both, it would be great if both could hit the top spot this year for a week each.
It would be so great for both on their respective anniversaries.
That said, i am more for Mariah going all the way, as i am a big fan of it.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 30th November 2019, 06:21 AM

Ended up at #34 in this week's UK chart, the same position it was at this time last year!


29th November 2019:
14,360 sales - with ACR rules applied
27,565 sales - without ACR, which goes towards the song's sales total.
It sold 1,155 downloads. Therefore 13,205 sales from all audio/video streaming goes towards this week's chart // 26,410‬ sales goes to the song's total.

30th November 2018: (Comparison to 1 year ago)
12,839 sales - with ACR rules applied
23,868 sales - without ACR, which goes towards the song's sales total.
It sold 1,808 downloads. Therefore ‭11,031‬ sales from all audio/video streaming went towards that week's chart // 22,060 sales went towards the song's total.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 1st December 2019, 10:43 PM

Number 10 on iTunes now.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st December 2019, 11:47 PM

Great to see! It hasn't been in the UK iTunes Top 10 for years, because prior to this year the downloads were split between the version from her album, and a version from a Christmas compilation. Now that that compilation has been withdrawn from sale, that's helping the song go higher!

Also #4 on Spotify! Presumably it'll be #1 in tomorrow's Spotify chart.

I'd really like to see another Mariah song chart for the first time. Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) is off to a great start this year, already #99 on Spotify!

Posted by: Steve201 2nd December 2019, 09:09 AM

I assume it's higher on playlists this year?

There's so many other versions of Christmas(Baby Please Come Home). My own favourite is by U2 and a lot of people love the Buble and Darlene Love versions.

Posted by: pippa 2nd December 2019, 07:16 PM

Number 17 in the midweek information released today.
Top 15 will definitely happen now and possibly close to Top 10.

Posted by: Steve201 2nd December 2019, 10:28 PM

We know it'll be top 3 later in the month!

Posted by: joyride 2nd December 2019, 10:38 PM

Annoyed to see that it's only at 17 was 7 this time last year

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 2nd December 2019, 11:01 PM

I like Darlene's version from Phil Spector's Christmas album which I must dig out tomorrow and start playing now it's December.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 2nd December 2019, 11:06 PM

I'm listening to that tomorrow too omg!!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd December 2019, 11:20 PM

Last year's Monday mids were on 3rd December though, which meant that the 1st December streams were fully accounted for! Today's mids don't include yesterday's explosion of Christmas songs on streaming, just 29th/30th Nov streams. I'm sure tomorrow's mids will see a much better midweek for Mariah.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 3rd December 2019, 06:57 AM

Mariah's performance at the Tokyo Dome, back in 1996... in 1080p HD





Here's another performance from 1994, St. John The Divine:




Great to see these retro performances in great quality!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 3rd December 2019, 02:00 PM

Midweek #8, and only a few hundred sales behind mid #5

Posted by: pippa 3rd December 2019, 03:15 PM

All I Want For Christmas is really smashing it, and it is early days yet.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 3rd December 2019, 03:24 PM

It'll be between 4-9 until Xmas week when it'll jump up to no1!

Posted by: joyride 3rd December 2019, 04:51 PM

Woohoo! This stuff is starting now

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 3rd December 2019, 05:03 PM

Do we have a Tuesday update?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th December 2019, 12:00 AM

Used on I'm a celeb tonight, should easily be top 6 on friday.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 4th December 2019, 08:24 PM

I forgot this was used, streams holding strong this week so far and download in the top 10 at No8 presently.

Posted by: pippa 4th December 2019, 09:24 PM

It is doing very well.
When Mariah released this, i would think she had no idea how big it would become 25 years after its release.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 4th December 2019, 09:26 PM

Yeh it's certainly the pension provider. Thinknit was pretty huge back upon release too!

Posted by: pippa 4th December 2019, 09:34 PM

It was a big hit originally but now its the only way Mariah can make her way to the charts anymore and is now an annual big hit for her.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 09:53 PM

True. When the Slade biggie was released in '73, Noddy Holder could have no idea that he'd earn over £100,000 every year in royalties for plays and sales. Nice pension for him.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 6th December 2019, 12:41 AM

An Amazon mini-documentary is coming out soon:

Meanwhile, she has recorded performances for The Late Late Show which will air on December 16th, 17th and 18th!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th December 2019, 02:34 AM

Shes really going for it this year which is great.

Posted by: joyride 6th December 2019, 06:28 PM

How did she stay at number 8?? The OCC are criminals and crooks, I see what they're upto and they wont get away with their BS for much longer.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 6th December 2019, 11:26 PM

What have they done?

Posted by: joyride 7th December 2019, 12:56 AM

They calculated horrible streams for Thursday.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 7th December 2019, 01:37 AM

As in my Spotify post the average streams of the song for the week were 370k so they probably used that total which was lower than she had been doing for most of the beginning of the week but it's the average I guess.

Posted by: WhoChristmasssy 9th December 2019, 07:56 PM

It's their chart, they can really do what they want with it. Nothing 'criminal' at all

Posted by: Jay ☆ 9th December 2019, 08:33 PM

Mariah would be midweek #1 today if ACR didn’t exist

Posted by: Lukuzz 9th December 2019, 08:47 PM

They are gonna rob her of the top spot again aren't they cba

Posted by: pippa 9th December 2019, 09:01 PM

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 9th December 2019, 09:37 PM

No, Tones & I and Ladbaby will do that.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x 9th December 2019, 09:44 PM

No, Ellie Goulding will do that.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 9th December 2019, 11:51 PM

Ellie then Mariah would be the best No1s to end the year.

Posted by: dancember 9th December 2019, 11:56 PM

OCC will probably inaccurately estimate Mariah's Thursday streaming in a way that conveniently denies her of the last #1 of the year just like last year, I get the feeling.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 10th December 2019, 12:01 AM

No they wouldn't dare do it again. Would they?

Posted by: dancember 10th December 2019, 12:12 AM

Anyway this is #3 in the US this week, it could potentially go #1 for the first time this year!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 10th December 2019, 12:24 AM

So no year is ever going to be perfect for her if they do this!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th December 2019, 01:48 AM

Let's hope they are kind to her.

Posted by: Bjork 10th December 2019, 09:26 AM

but the occ people are not [REDACTED], when they estimate Thu streams, they don't just make the average
I was at a big Data Science meeting in London the other week and talked with some people about it and they do it thru a process called "machine learning"... so first you feed the model with real data, ie whats happened with all songs every week since Spotify exists, so real data for every song for every Thursday...
and then you make a model and use the data you have for a particular song you wanna predict, and the model estimates its Thu streams... but it's based on lots and lots of real data and the model learns from this data and then makes. prediction...

there was an example called "would you have survived in the Titanic?"... its there same machine learning, so first you put the data of everyone that was on there titanic, age, sex, class etc and if they survived/died... and then you put your real data, I'm a man, 30, I'm poor so I'd go on 3rd class, and then the model tells you... "you'd have died" so the model learns from the data you entered and makes a prediction based on that

Posted by: joyride 10th December 2019, 10:46 PM

I read that they use a method used in cricket. Darwin something, too lazy to look.

But in other news, a new music video is dropping soon get those streams Mimi!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 12:01 PM

Mariah and her team really are pulling out all the stops in the US, there's now a limited signed CD with alternative artwork! https://mariahcareyshop.com/products/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you-signed-single-digital-download

Posted by: pippa 11th December 2019, 02:33 PM

It is enjoyable to see they are doing what they can to get this to a much deserved pole position.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 02:51 PM

Posted by: joyride 11th December 2019, 03:24 PM

The race to number one is very close between her and Juice Wrld. She may just clench it with those new signed copies! So Exciting.

Posted by: joyride 12th December 2019, 12:34 AM

Mariah Carey is on course for her 19th Billboard Number ONE!!

Posted by: Wall 12th December 2019, 01:35 AM

Mariah needs to promo her ass now

Posted by: Jay ☆ 12th December 2019, 07:57 AM

Omg, if she does it this week...! That would be two weeks earlier the week they’re targeting with physicals.

Posted by: joyride 12th December 2019, 08:38 PM

Fingers crossed she gets it. It's not happening in the UK because sadly they've already shipped the physicals that were supposed to count for the 20th.

Posted by: lewis🎄green 13th December 2019, 12:18 AM

And it looks like it was directed by Joseph Kahn!

Posted by: joyride 13th December 2019, 01:26 AM

It's gonna be a moment.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 13th December 2019, 08:54 AM

Hope she does it in the US at least.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th December 2019, 06:02 PM

Received my 7" vinyl yesterday! Happy to have it so soon, and it's such a cute item... but it is a pity that the sales are essentially wasted on this week when they could have come in handy the week after. I hope we somehow find out how many she sold in the UK, it would be interesting to know!

Keeping my fingers crossed that she still manages #1 here.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2019, 06:20 PM

I think she has a better chance the week after christmas with how it falls, her streaming numbers will be extra high from next friday to thursday.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 15th December 2019, 12:01 AM

Should release some CD singles here too that week. Every little helps.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 15th December 2019, 12:34 PM

Does anyone on here have the original 1994 vinyl/cd/cassette?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th December 2019, 01:42 PM

I have the original cassette.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 15th December 2019, 04:05 PM

Me too. Wonder if it still plays well.

Have both her Christmas CD albums too.

Posted by: JosephCarey 15th December 2019, 04:08 PM

I have one of the original UK CDs! https://www.discogs.com/Mariah-Carey-All-I-Want-For-Christmas-Is-You/release/2346041, from a charity shop

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 15th December 2019, 05:13 PM

Class!

I assume there wasn't a vinyl release?

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 15th December 2019, 06:04 PM

Yep, very limited both here and in US but no CD.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 15th December 2019, 06:11 PM

The vinyl release would be class to have - Jospeh said above he had one of the original cds?!

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 15th December 2019, 06:15 PM

Plenty of the original CD's around for sale on Ebay, Discogs, Music Magpie etc.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 15th December 2019, 06:16 PM

Assume it did have a cd release then!

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 15th December 2019, 06:58 PM

Staying at No.6 this week.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 15th December 2019, 07:29 PM

I think it will be top 5 by Friday!

Posted by: joyride 16th December 2019, 12:02 AM

It's gonna do nothing this week, next week she should be #1.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 16th December 2019, 12:35 AM

Could still end up top 5 alright though.

Posted by: Lissa Martin 16th December 2019, 06:00 AM

I hope this will rank #1

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 16th December 2019, 08:23 AM

Maybe on Friday weeks chart, very unlikely this Friday unfort.

Posted by: joyride 16th December 2019, 02:44 PM

She should be #4 this week behind Lad, Stormzy and Wham

Posted by: lewis🎄green 16th December 2019, 02:46 PM

There's no assume Joseph literally said he has a copy of the 1994 CD single. They were the dominant format then so why wouldn't it have had a CD release? lmao

Posted by: Dircandydircane 16th December 2019, 05:46 PM

Posted by: dancember 16th December 2019, 06:22 PM

omg yes!!
Mariah’s 19th number one I believe, insane how huge she was in the US yet this was never able to reach number one originally.

Posted by: FKA Twiglets 16th December 2019, 06:29 PM

I bought the cd single back in 1994 - there was more than one version if I remember correctly, I had the picture disc one.

Posted by: gooddelta 16th December 2019, 06:36 PM

<3 there’s something very right about seeing Mariah at #1 in the US again.

And just in time to ensure she’s achieved number one hits in three consecutive decades.

Posted by: tommie 16th December 2019, 06:38 PM

It actually wasn't eligible in the US when it was originally released because they didn't put out a cd single. Had they done that it might've gone to #1 in 1994.

Posted by: Michael Bubré 16th December 2019, 06:41 PM

I think there have been periods of time where Billboard actually entirely banned Christmas songs from charting at all as well? Not sure if Mariah fell under that. It was definitely blocked for a while from making annual reappearances in the digital/streaming era until a few years ago.

Well done to her for achieving this, it's a good consolation for her losing her (joint) record for the longest running Hot 100 #1 her 19th #1 after Lil Nas X beat her record by spending 19 weeks at #1 in 2019. Spooky ~

Posted by: pippa 16th December 2019, 07:08 PM

I hope it can repeat the success of America in the Uk and finally make its way to Number 1 next week.
Slight disappointed its dropped to Number 6 in the UK midweek information released today.

Posted by: joyride 16th December 2019, 07:15 PM

I'm bloody estatic! 19th number one baby! She deserves it so much

Posted by: Lukuzz 16th December 2019, 07:48 PM

Wow fantastic. Shame it won't do the same over here in the UK

Posted by: Jonjo 16th December 2019, 08:48 PM

She joins:

- Beyonce*
- Britney Spears
- Cher
- Christina Aguilera
- Diana Ross*
- Madonna

as the only females to have #1's in 3 different Decades. It makes her the 5th to do so as a soloist/credited under their own name.

WOW. This week she could keep it there! And then the week after with all the Christmas day numbers added etc.. she could potentially be #1 into the new decade making it 4 decades for her!

WE STAN!!!

Posted by: joyride 16th December 2019, 08:52 PM

Next week is our last chance.

Posted by: December Dong 16th December 2019, 08:53 PM

SHE DID IT!!

She would also have done it here if the charts weren't as rigged as our elections!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 16th December 2019, 08:55 PM

I was thinking that though the other poster made me think twice. Yes by 1994 cds were dominating!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 16th December 2019, 08:56 PM

Always an impressive achievement - was gutted when cliff Richard didn't get a no1 in the noughties although I wasn't a fan of his at all.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 16th December 2019, 08:59 PM

Pretty ridiculous if that's the case in terms of Xmas songs being banned, what's that chart actually for?

Posted by: December Dong 16th December 2019, 09:03 PM

I bet he was so close with Millennium Prayer!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 16th December 2019, 09:09 PM

I wouldn't have considered that a true noughties no1 as it was a leftover from the 1990s. His only other chart topper in the 90s was in December 1990 with Saviours Day I think?

Posted by: pippa 16th December 2019, 10:19 PM

Saviours Day i do enjoy and more so than Mistletoe and Wine.
I did not enjoy Millenium Prayer.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 17th December 2019, 12:34 AM

Yeh I always considered MP a new year song rather than Christmas anyway. It was clearly aimed at the end of century kind of vibe.

Posted by: Bjork 17th December 2019, 08:10 AM

in the US, xmas songs had a separate chart for ages, this is only the 2nd Xmas song ever to get to #1 and the previous #1 was in the 50s I think

from Billboard:

Upon its initial release, on Carey's album Merry Christmas (released on Nov. 1, 1994, coincidentally, the 100th anniversary of the first Billboard magazine, dated Nov. 1, 1894), the song was not a commercially-available single and, per rules at the time, was ineligible to chart on the Hot 100; it did reach No. 12 on the Radio Songs chart that season. In December 1998, album cuts became eligible for the Hot 100 and "Christmas" dented the chart for the first time on Jan. 8, 2000, spending a week at No. 83.

Beginning in 2012, and coinciding with the addition of streaming to the Hot 100's formula, the song has hit the Hot 100 annually, as, per current rules, older songs are eligible to debut or return if ranking in the top 50 and are gaining in multiple metrics with a significant reason for their resurgences.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 17th December 2019, 09:15 AM

When Chris said “no CD” he was referring to the US, in fact it had no physical release of any format there in 1994 (as explained in the above quote from Billboard).

~~~

I’m so pleased for Mariah, finally at the top & her long-awaited 19th #1. I hope it follows suit in the UK next week, I’ve not lost hope yet.

Posted by: Jonjo 17th December 2019, 03:48 PM

If anyone wants to do a rate of her 19 #1's or a least fave poll, feel free to do so!

Posted by: Bjork 17th December 2019, 03:56 PM

funny how her only UK solo #1 is Without You, which is not one of her 19 US #1s (peaked at #3 in the UK)

Posted by: ___∆___ 17th December 2019, 04:01 PM

Brand new video premiering at midnight on the 20th (US time) - will help with those YT streams

Posted by: joyride 17th December 2019, 04:21 PM

Posted by: ___∆___ 17th December 2019, 04:26 PM

Coming to snatch that U.K. #1 with those YouTube streams

Posted by: joyride 17th December 2019, 05:49 PM

Hopefully the OCC count all those streams, I don't trust them one bit.

Posted by: Spiceboy 17th December 2019, 05:51 PM

Fingers crossed Mariah can do it!!!

Posted by: December Dong 17th December 2019, 06:14 PM

They're as corrupt as our political system


They hate the song, and they won't let it get to no.1.

Posted by: Medellíam 17th December 2019, 07:33 PM

When you're sad but still festive:

Posted by: dannjohn 17th December 2019, 07:52 PM

Her and her team deserve a pat on the back for this promo trail... it's been so carefully thought out.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 17th December 2019, 08:04 PM

Well done Mariah. Now do it next week here.

Posted by: Spiceboy 17th December 2019, 10:00 PM

Wow that's amazing that she has done that, well done Mariah! Are her and Madonna the only females to have #1 singles across 3 consecutive decades in America? If it goes to #1 in the UK next week she will have done in the UK too technically right?

How many females have featured on #1s across 3 different decades in the UK?

Madonnna (80's, 90's, 00's)
Kylie (80's, 90's, 00's)
Diana Ross (60's 70's 80's)
Cher (60's, 80's, 90's)
Britney (90's 00's 10's)
Melanie C (90's, 00's, 10's) - tenuous link lol

Any others?

Posted by: Spiceboy 17th December 2019, 10:02 PM

She also had Against all odds (which is a duet to be fair) also not a #1 in the US lol

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 17th December 2019, 11:22 PM

I thinks she's guaranteed - the main challenger will be Stormzy but he will be blown away by streams for Mariah and Wham on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday being upwards of 800-900k and 1.5m on Xmas day.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th December 2019, 11:34 PM

I hope she can follow suit and get to number 1 next in the uk and hopefully ireland too.

Posted by: isanka 18th December 2019, 12:08 PM

Where can we found the US charts of this song.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 18th December 2019, 12:56 PM

Il be so happy if she finally gets number 1 next but I keep thinking it wont happen.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 19th December 2019, 12:12 AM

It will be as exciting as this week.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 19th December 2019, 01:07 AM

Posted by: ___∆___ 19th December 2019, 09:42 AM

This year is her best chance tbh - a new video will add to the streams plus people will really start hammering the Christmas playlists this week. Fingers crossed

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 19th December 2019, 09:43 AM

The new video is being shown a lot on MTV at the moment.

Posted by: Bjork 19th December 2019, 11:25 AM

MTV are playing music? shocked!!!!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 19th December 2019, 06:20 PM

It's supposed to be receiving its worldwide premiere tomorrow, is it definitely the new 2019 video you're seeing?

Posted by: pippa 19th December 2019, 07:14 PM

The new video should attract more interest for nest week.
Its the week she needs everything going the right way if she is to make Number 1.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 19th December 2019, 08:20 PM

Really? I maybe haven't been then but the video they are showing is not one I'm familiar with(albeit I wouldn't be as into these things as you guys) it shows here in different scenes round the tree at the start.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 19th December 2019, 08:21 PM

Ha funny!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 19th December 2019, 10:07 PM

Maybe it's this one?



The one coming tomorrow is brand new!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 20th December 2019, 12:00 AM

Yeh that's the one, it's not the normal one is it?

Tomorrow's one looks class - can't wait!

I've a feeling it'll help her hugely next week as the hype will be decent.

Posted by: joyride 20th December 2019, 01:04 AM

She actually has 6 versions now! The orginal, black and white, So So Def, Beiber, Unreleased footage and now the 25th anniversary edition

The song has been discounted for the first time ever, so I guess we're going to number one

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 20th December 2019, 02:20 AM

I love how they are really going for it this year and its paid off already with them getting the American number 1.

Posted by: joyride 20th December 2019, 05:26 AM

It's the most festive video yet

Posted by: tommie 20th December 2019, 09:34 AM

The armography!

The Skinny Legend has truly outdone herself!!!

Posted by: isanka 20th December 2019, 12:23 PM

nice video

Posted by: pippa 20th December 2019, 08:18 PM

Let everything come together now and fingers crossed this time next week we will be celebrating this timeless classic going to Number 1.

Posted by: December Dong 20th December 2019, 08:33 PM

Is anyone else leaving this on repeat on streaming when doing other things? We can do it!! #1 please!

Posted by: WhoChristmassy 20th December 2019, 08:34 PM

Well only 10 streams do count per day

Posted by: TomHo 20th December 2019, 09:00 PM

The new video is really cute, I like it.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 20th December 2019, 11:45 PM

Really nice new video from Mariah, those new you tube views will give her an edge this week.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 21st December 2019, 01:08 PM

With me thinking this has a shot at number 1 this week I'm excited for the chart, really hope it happens now.

Posted by: joyride 21st December 2019, 05:02 PM

Help Mariah get to number one

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nf2YedP4juDaHXdL-eNaQHgs9u5-T6keZ9NnUFEa6JM/edit?usp=sharing

Posted by: Bjork 21st December 2019, 05:15 PM

there is a cap of 10 streams per day per outlet
so do 10 on Spotify, 10 on Tidal, 10 on Deezer, 10 on Apple etc

Posted by: ___∆___ 21st December 2019, 06:37 PM

I have paid subscriptions with Apple, Amazon & YouTube so am streaming from each daily plus streaming the versions on compilation albums etc., - Mariah HAS to get the #1!

Posted by: ___∆___ 21st December 2019, 06:40 PM

They have stock of the physicals on her UK website -

7” Vinyl - https://mariahcareyshopuk.com/products/all-i-want-for-christmas-single-7

Green Cassette - https://mariahcareyshopuk.com/products/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you-green-cassette-single

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 21st December 2019, 06:41 PM

it's game on

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 21st December 2019, 06:43 PM

Without the physicals last week Mariah and Wham would have been toe to toe!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 21st December 2019, 07:04 PM

We can do this

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 21st December 2019, 07:50 PM

I'm confused that with new physical out, videos promo etc how both are not taken off acr?

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 21st December 2019, 09:33 PM

They have to ask, then it's up to the OCC I think!

Posted by: December Dong 21st December 2019, 10:25 PM

Crap I had it on loop!!

I will buy it too. Do I need to open an iTunes account or can I download it anyway?

Posted by: ___∆___ 21st December 2019, 11:13 PM

You have to set up an account (e-mail address, home address etc.,) to make a purchase but it only takes a minute or two

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 22nd December 2019, 12:38 AM

Don't forget Amazon too Ding!

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 01:58 PM

Open an iTunes account, the single is cheaper on there.

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 03:45 PM

She's climbed up to #6 on iTunes! Fans are getting together to download and make it number one

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 22nd December 2019, 03:47 PM

Really hope we get midweeks 2m as that would give us a guide to how it's doing more so than today's update if we get one.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 22nd December 2019, 03:49 PM

Think Ladbaby will be at 3 today behind Stormzy and Mariah!

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 03:57 PM

This chart battle is gonna be so close, but I have faith.

Posted by: ___∆___ 22nd December 2019, 04:41 PM

Currently streaming all versions across Apple, Amazon & YT Music

Posted by: December Dong 22nd December 2019, 04:48 PM

I downloaded one from amazon!! Is anyone else buying?

Gonna buy from itunes too, multiple versions.

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 05:48 PM

I got a couple from iTunes for 59p each

Here are the ones on discount.
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you/585972750?i=585972803
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you/1480780245?i=1480780254
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you/1311780239?i=1311780249
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you/1311780239?i=1311780249
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you/1169564136?i=1169565155

Posted by: December Dong 22nd December 2019, 06:16 PM

And remember to keep streaming, but never on loop ane never on mute! Stick headphones in and don't wear them if needs be.

Posted by: ___∆___ 22nd December 2019, 06:18 PM

iTunes #6 & #141

Amazon Streaming #3

Apple Streaming #2

YouTube Streaming #2

YouTube Video - 8.5 million viewers (worldwide)

Posted by: December Dong 22nd December 2019, 06:19 PM

I forgot youtube!! I am streaming all the time on amazon.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 22nd December 2019, 07:41 PM

Is there any restriction on YouTube views?

Posted by: JosephCarey 22nd December 2019, 07:43 PM

Yes, it's streaming so the same restrictions apply

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x 22nd December 2019, 07:53 PM

Mariah for #1! (Assuming that River doesn’t make it of course).

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 08:06 PM

She has another edit of the new video dropping next week, so that will help even more

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 22nd December 2019, 08:08 PM

Ah well!

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 08:09 PM

A look at Merry Christmas 25 behind the scenes



Despite her not coming to the UK this has been a very enjoyable era.

Posted by: December Dong 22nd December 2019, 08:27 PM

The new video is abysmal. It's like GaGa's Guy - too many short ideas, such as her in angel wings, her soldiers, etc. There are so many short clips of 1 second switching into another that it should carry an epilepsy warning. I haven't been able to watch it all the way through as it makes me dizzy - just like guy. Angel wings, soldiers, soldiers 2, Mariah, angel wings, Mariah, angel wings, kids, tree, stamping angel wings, something else, presents. Man aliiive! Trash. The editing and directing is atrocious and ruins what could have been a good vid.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 22nd December 2019, 08:52 PM

Era?

Posted by: ___∆___ 22nd December 2019, 09:07 PM

Same as streaming - make sure you only watch the official uploads though, also if you are subscribed to YT you also get their music streaming service too so can add some extra plays and sales for Mariah

Posted by: joyride 22nd December 2019, 11:11 PM

Yes! Ever since

Posted by: Jay ☆ 23rd December 2019, 01:07 AM

Such an iconic tweet *.*

Posted by: JosephCarey 23rd December 2019, 01:09 AM

Posted by: Wall 23rd December 2019, 02:25 AM

Vertical video tbh on Spotify needed

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 23rd December 2019, 11:52 AM

I know it has a chance of uk number 1 but I'm hopi g it could do it here in ireland aswell.

Posted by: pippa 23rd December 2019, 03:38 PM

I think Mariah will trail in the midweek chart information up until Tuesday and may potentially overtake if a midweek were to be released on Thursday.

Posted by: coi 23rd December 2019, 04:44 PM

I imagine Friday itself will be its highest position during the week since it takes a day for them to receive a lot of the streaming data! Most of the Christmas Day streams won’t be in a Thursday update!

Posted by: lewis🎄green 23rd December 2019, 06:36 PM

ANOTHER video but this time with some famous lip syncing

Posted by: pippa 23rd December 2019, 06:47 PM

Number 3 in the midweek information released today but no sales information was provided for any of the chart placings.

Posted by: Lukuzz 23rd December 2019, 09:57 PM

I honestly have a bad feeling it'll end up at number 2 again

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 23rd December 2019, 10:03 PM

Yep me too behind the awful Stormzy.

Posted by: Jonjo 24th December 2019, 12:17 AM

Petition for Joseph to keep his mouth shut on Thursday and not to spoil things tbh.

Posted by: ___∆___ 24th December 2019, 12:52 AM

Queen of new YouTube videos -

Celeb version of AIWFC



Behind The Scenes -



Get those streams

Posted by: pippa 24th December 2019, 01:26 PM

Climbs to Number 4 on iTunes.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 24th December 2019, 02:39 PM

It’s now #3 on UK iTunes

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 24th December 2019, 04:01 PM

Has she ever got to iTunes no1 since 2006?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th December 2019, 06:37 PM

I don't think she has

Posted by: LMLou 24th December 2019, 07:03 PM

I wonder if she'll make it to #2 on Itunes. #1 seems too far out of reach Dance Monkey is still selling double Mariah just now

Posted by: LMLou 24th December 2019, 07:03 PM

I wonder if she'll make it to #2 on Itunes. #1 seems too far out of reach Dance Monkey is still selling double Mariah just now

Posted by: coi 24th December 2019, 08:06 PM

Yeah I don’t see any way for Mariah to get to number one on iTunes, number two would be difficult but definitely possible though as Stormzy is currently in slow decline.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 24th December 2019, 09:20 PM

She's now at #1 on Apple Music UK

Posted by: Jay ☆ 24th December 2019, 09:44 PM

She's climbed to #1 on US iTunes It's not even discounted there!

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 24th December 2019, 09:49 PM

We need it here!!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th December 2019, 11:37 PM

It has to repeat all its US success in the uk. I wonder will she get a 2nd week at number 1 in the US.

Posted by: WhoChristmassy 24th December 2019, 11:38 PM

She already has got a second week in the US.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th December 2019, 12:03 AM

That's great, the campaign has worked so well in the US.

Posted by: joyride 25th December 2019, 08:37 AM

Lovely to wake up to see that she overtook Stormzy and is now number 2 on iTunes

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 25th December 2019, 11:30 AM

Keep streaming!

Posted by: LMLou 25th December 2019, 11:58 AM

I've had it on about 5 times today already!

Posted by: WhoChristmassy 25th December 2019, 12:15 PM

I wasn't expecting Joel Corry to look like that

Posted by: Jonjo 25th December 2019, 01:37 PM

We stan this Christmas Queen

Posted by: joyride 26th December 2019, 12:51 PM

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 26th December 2019, 01:04 PM

How do I screenshot a receipt of a purchase I already made??

Posted by: joyride 26th December 2019, 03:23 PM

Try volume down and power button pressed together

Posted by: ___∆___ 27th December 2019, 04:00 PM

It’s made it to #1 in Germany for the first time - UK next please

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2019, 04:55 PM

Only number 4 here in Ireland was hoping top 3 at least. That's great about Germany. Fingers crossed for the UK.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2019, 06:11 PM

So disappointed about it missing the uk number 1 yet again.

Posted by: LMLou 27th December 2019, 06:13 PM

Such a same, maybe in 2024 if the chart rules don't change

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 27th December 2019, 06:14 PM

I wonder how far off she was.

Posted by: joyride 27th December 2019, 06:15 PM

OCC are scumbags

Posted by: Lukuzz 27th December 2019, 06:16 PM

Absolute madness but knew it

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x 27th December 2019, 06:26 PM

LMAO at my joke becoming a reality

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 27th December 2019, 06:31 PM

THIS

THEY ARW A FOOKEN JOKE

CORRUPT TO THE CORE LIKE THE ENTIRE UK ESTABLISHMENT

THEY TOOK A DISLIKE TO MARIAH AND CHANGED THE RULES AGAINST HER. FOOKEN SEE YOU NEXT TOOSDAYS

I'M FOOKEN FUMIN AGAIN

FUMIN

ANOTHER NO.1 STOLEN WHEN IT IS RIGHTFULLY HERS

FOOKEN FUMIN

Posted by: joyride 27th December 2019, 06:40 PM

How has she fallen on the video chart?

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 27th December 2019, 06:45 PM

She hasn't. The OCC are corrupt bast*rds. I've been saying it for weeks!

Posted by: joyride 27th December 2019, 06:56 PM

Well they are not going to get away with this?

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 27th December 2019, 06:59 PM

We have to complain. People with twitter need to tweet and we all need to send emails!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 27th December 2019, 10:48 PM

No one will listen unfort - she's second again this year and Ellie was streamed more. It's unfair but they are the facts!

Posted by: Jonjo 27th December 2019, 10:53 PM

Was she streamed more though if AIWFCIY video streams weren't accounted for?

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 27th December 2019, 10:54 PM

The OCC cheated this time by halving Mariah's video sales by splitting it into two ans attributing more than half to a made-up artist/ entry!!!!!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 27th December 2019, 10:55 PM

What have they said about that?

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th December 2019, 02:09 AM

I'm so disappointed... This year felt like the perfect time for it to finally happen. AIWFCIY finally outdid all "normal song" competition very emphatically (Stormzy), but now she ended up losing out to Alexa... I mean, Ellie Goulding.

I've lost all faith that AIWFCIY will ever make it to UK #1 in the future. I really wish it had done it in 2018... the sales margin between her and Ava being 152 sales will always be irritating.

Maybe it was a bit of a mistake on the label's part to not release the CD single here. I feel like that could have encouraged more casual sales than the rather expensive 7" Vinyl and Cassette formats. Physicals should have been made available on Amazon etc too, rather than be a store exclusive, like Wham's 7". I don't think the Mariah UK store was promoted very well tbh; the main focus on buying merchandise was directed to her US store.

Sigh... at least it made it to #1 in the US, which in the grand scheme of things must mean more to Mariah and the label. #1 in Germany is lovely to see too! It just would have been the icing on the cake to do it here in the UK.

Oh well. Regardless, Mariah is always going to have the ultimate modern Christmas song.

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 28th December 2019, 02:13 AM

And it IS no.1. It is the most consumed no.1. The OCC is corrupt snd disgusting and has a vendetta against her. That amazon song needed to be remoced from the charts weeks ago, but no. They wanted this. They PURPOSEFULLY split her video sales, and they apparently rejected their requests to reset it baxk to SCR. Let's also remember that the ENTIRE ACR RULE was put into place, with the 3 year rule lol, to defeat Mariah. They HATE the song. And it is vile. The charts should be a reflection, ans not say what those dithering oldies at the OCC want it to say. Charts are cancelled.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 28th December 2019, 02:19 AM

I don't think they hate the song, imo they would rather it was a new song at no1 not a song 25 years old.

Is there evidence the OCC rejected the labels asking for AIWFCIY to return to SCR?

Posted by: joyride 28th December 2019, 02:46 AM

Posted by: joyride 28th December 2019, 02:50 AM

I don't know how she could have been streamed more if she's only 12 on the streaming chart? It's not even believable.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th December 2019, 03:05 AM

I have no evidence to provide, so it's essentially hearsay... but apparently it is the case that Columbia requested it, but were ultimately rejected. It's info that comes from someone in the industry, who told a friend, who told a friend... so it's something to either believe or not believe. I personally think it's true. Mariah's team were clearly focused on a UK push with new physicals / the Walkers advert promo etc.

~

It's inaccurate to say Ellie was streamed more! The total audio streams of River this week were 55% of what All I Want for Christmas Is You achieved. But after AIWFCIY has its streaming sales halved, it loses out to River.

I find it totally suspicious that River with just Amazon could even achieve as much as 55% of AIWFCIY streams, which is obviously available on every streaming platform.

Posted by: WinterFreeze 28th December 2019, 05:56 AM

#1 in Australia this week.

Posted by: Jonjo 28th December 2019, 09:18 AM

The whole requesting thing is ridiculous. It should be automatically reset when there is very clear promotional info released (i.e. physicals, a new video, even a Walkers advert + all this done to tie in with the 25th Anniversary)...

Also the whole "maybe they want a new song at #1 and not a 25 year old song" is bull, when they were happily reporting the fact she reached number 1 in the US finally and asking if it could do the same over here etc.. Had she been number 1 it would/could have created more traffic for their site and had people talking about the charts in a positive way. It's awful that they did this and had she been on SCR after the label requested it, she'd have been an easy number 1, even with the split video streams...

It's honestly ridiculous that the label went to the trouble of asking to get it put back to SCR and the OCC DENYING it... (Providing that's true ofc)

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x 28th December 2019, 10:12 AM

Not now sweetie

Posted by: Jonjo 28th December 2019, 10:19 AM

I lowkey agree 👀

When is "modern" no longer "modern"?

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 28th December 2019, 01:39 PM

Well there's no proof that they asked for this so we have to leave that. But as you say certain criteria should be met and then it should be automatic rather than having to go to the OCC begging bowl to ask for a reset.

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 28th December 2019, 01:41 PM

This is the fakest chart we have ever had. Cancelled. Mariah was the most-consumed song of the week. Facts. Therefore, she is no.1.

Posted by: dobcember 28th December 2019, 01:53 PM

At least anyone who cares about & follows the Chart (like the community here) will know that Mariah is the true #1. The average member of the public will assume it was #1 anyway so in pretty much everything bar a increasingly meaningless statistic it IS a UK #1. It is now simply just amusing witnessing the OCC trying to wriggle their way out of it...

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 28th December 2019, 01:55 PM

100% THIS

I guess it is completely meaningless now. The OCC killed their own chart because of a desperate hatred toeards Mariah. It's pathetic, really, when most people assume it was a no.1 or just don't care about the charts in the first place.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 28th December 2019, 08:09 PM

The stats will unfort say different though. In a 100 years time people will look back and only see the facts.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th December 2019, 08:37 PM

Like wham and the pogues most people think that all these songs made number , I know the charts books say differently but most people dont look into such information except for people like us here on the forum.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 28th December 2019, 08:49 PM

Yeh true, it's one of my fun facts at Christmas every year telling my dad and sister that The Pogues were beaten to no1 by Pet Shop Boys!

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 28th December 2019, 11:04 PM

Spot on Steve.

Posted by: joyride 29th December 2019, 01:17 AM

Mariah's team looked into it and were informed that the Official Charts noticed the dip in Mariah's video position and calculated the Jukebox Heaven points into Mariah's total. That is what they are claiming they did but it doesn't add up. If they noticed her position was wrong why didn't they simply correct it before issuing the charts? She would have been number one on the video chart and number one on the main streaming chart. She streamed more than Wham last week, that is a fact, Youtube and Kworbs data show that she was the most watched video of the week. The OC deliberately removed sales from Mariah to give Ellie the number one. Disgusting.

Posted by: Jonjo 29th December 2019, 01:31 AM

Yeah, no. [In reference to posts that have been deleted] What we're NOT gonna do is allow name-calling of any artist irregardless of how popular or unpopular they seem to be on here.

Please act your age.

Thanks.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 29th December 2019, 09:03 AM

That's barmy though because Jukebox Heaven aren't Mariah.

Posted by: Juliano 29th December 2019, 09:15 AM

Thank you, I may not be a huge fan of the song or artist in question, but some of the things I was reading was making me so disappointed.

Posted by: tommie 29th December 2019, 10:29 AM

Can't wait for the 2020 remix package that'll include 26 new remixes - one for each year our Christmas Queen has been deprived of her rightful number one

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th December 2019, 11:51 AM

So long Mariah for another year!!

Posted by: tommie 30th December 2019, 08:45 PM

Posted by: Jay ☆ 31st December 2019, 09:04 AM

Posted by: Esmerelda 31st December 2019, 11:30 PM

Oh dear. Mariah's Twitter account has been well and truly hacked.

Alexa?

Posted by: tommie 31st December 2019, 11:55 PM

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/mariah-carey-twitter-hacked-1203454529/

She's been hacked. I guess Amazon is going all out to sabotage Mariah.

Posted by: Who Year's Eve 1st January 2020, 12:14 AM

That was really strange

Posted by: tommie 1st January 2020, 12:19 AM

It's pretty obvious a violent crime has been committed and All I Want For Christmas is truly the number one.

Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe 1st January 2020, 01:47 AM

OMFG THIS

It was so so so clearly the real no.1.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st January 2020, 05:19 AM

~~~

I received the CD and cassette singles yesterday *.* Christmas officially not over yet

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 1st January 2020, 06:50 PM

You'll have to keep it until November mate lol.

Posted by: Spiceboy 1st January 2020, 08:13 PM

All I want for Christmas is still #1 over there???

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st January 2020, 08:32 PM

It sure is *.* its third week at #1 is the equivalent week to the week she was #2 here, i.e. the strongest set of days for Christmas streaming. It counts as a week at #1 in 2020 due to how Billboard dates their chart with a “week ending” date.


By the way, Mariah’s Twitter password was butterfly97

Posted by: Jay ☆ 7th January 2020, 09:38 AM

Continues to break records *__*

Posted by: tommie 7th January 2020, 11:19 AM

Queen of breaking records left and right flawlessly

Posted by: isanka 7th January 2020, 12:44 PM

How much does she sold this year?

Posted by: Jay ☆ 7th January 2020, 01:46 PM

Not sure about the US, but in the UK its total is 2,622,592 as of 27th December 2019! An impressive 445,824 added to its total since its 28th December 2018 figure. So it seems that this time next year, All I Want for Christmas Is You should have exceeded 3 million.

Posted by: Charis 7th January 2020, 02:25 PM

in a decade from now it will be the biggest single of all time.... Ironically streaming is kind of ruining the way records were achieved..

Posted by: Steve201 8th January 2020, 12:16 AM

Yes it can't be far off Band Aid now can it? It'll be the biggest seller ever soon as will a lot of Xmas songs. As Charlie says above it devalues the lists of best selling songs/million sellers.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 8th January 2020, 05:30 AM

As things stand there’s a long way to go to overtake Band Aid (which is currently on 4,661,000 sales)! That’s 2,028,000 ahead of Mariah. At the current rate, Mariah will be on 4.85m by the end of Christmas 2024. By which time, Band Aid will probably be on around 6m.

I guess it will take until some time in the 2030s for Mariah to overtake. By which point they’d both be in the region of 7m sales (which sounds so ridiculous :’) )

This is of course assuming that their popularity & rate of sales holds up, and that OCC’s streaming ratio remains the same for years to come!

Posted by: Steve201 10th January 2020, 12:48 AM

Yeh the sales will sound ridiculous if they count streams in the same way for years.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th January 2020, 01:13 AM

Ya when we look at it that way its ridiculous. Until a few years ago a million selling single was a huge success, what's a huge success for a single nowadays though?

Posted by: Bré 10th January 2020, 07:47 PM

The million mark being considered special has always been arbitrary, it just so happened that a fairly difficult sales mark to reach was also a nice round number. Not to mention that the million mark has always fluctuated in how difficult it is to achieve (in the mid-00s not even the absolute monster huge hits were able to get there, whereas even before streaming being included on the charts it was starting to become a slightly more routine milestone). How about just comparing the success of songs to other songs released in the same timeframe?

Posted by: burning up! 10th January 2020, 09:31 PM

actually, until the finalpart of 1989-beginning of the 90s, a million singles sold was only certified gold, but during the 90s the market grew smaller and they changed the certification sistem (that´s why a lot of madonna hits from the 80s are not cerfied, because they didn´t achieved the million sales mark)

Posted by: Bré 10th January 2020, 09:49 PM

My post has nothing to do with certifications?

Posted by: burning up! 11th January 2020, 09:23 AM

my post was about the platinum certification being arbitrary, as you have said before

Posted by: Bré 11th January 2020, 11:08 AM

I've said nothing about platinum certification being arbitrary, I said that about the million sales mark.

I'm not sure why the BPI hasn't moved the mark for platinum certification up again as streaming has clearly devalued what 600k units represents but hey ho ~

Posted by: Mateja 11th January 2020, 11:37 AM

There is nothing wrong with the platinum certification mark being easier to achieve nowadays. Multiplatinum certifications exist. Also, they could always intruduce the diamont certification, like in the US.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th January 2020, 04:13 PM

I think it is much easier to achieve a platinum selling single now than ever and so many songs reach it but yet do not seem to be songs that are huge hits.

Posted by: Steve201 12th January 2020, 01:07 AM

Songs reach that as they are making their way UP the chart these days.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 12th January 2020, 07:14 AM

Not really, they could enter at their peak & still easily achieve a certification. It’s little to do with the short term of their first few chart positions, and a lot more to do with the long haul.

Big hit songs (most of which are initially established by their inclusion in the most popular playlists) + their constant availability to stream, means it’s easier for them to accumulate sales over a long stretch of time. It’s also because the public don’t let go of certain hits, they’ll continue playing them for months/years.

That’s a huge difference to the days of physicals when there was a limited period of time a single would be heavily stocked. If a single was going to be popular enough to be platinum and a million seller, it would usually have had to have sold the bulk of its stock within 2 months to ensure this. Even in the download era, the demand for a song would eventually die down & it could take certain hits a long time to “trickle sell” their way to a certification.

Hit songs today just don’t face those barriers & have all the time in the world to reach a certification or “sell” a million.

Posted by: ___∆___ 4th May 2020, 09:56 AM

My signed copies from her USA store finally arrived today

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th May 2020, 10:43 AM

Were you meant to have recieved it at christmas ?

Posted by: Jay ☆ 4th May 2020, 03:57 PM

Glad you received them at last! I got mine last Tuesday, I like that this version is in a jewel case!

My AIWFCIY 2019 collection:

CD (Card Sleeve)
CD (Jewel Case with signed cover)
7" Vinyl
Cassette (Red)

... unfortunately I couldn't justify the 12" vinyl (I feared it would end up giving me a customs charge, so I thought I'd pass on it) or the green cassette (didn't feel the need to get both colours).


I think at the time it went up for pre-order (mid December) it said something like "will be dispatched within 10 to 16 weeks"! So April was in line with their estimate. The back cover says '2020' as the year of copyright, so it wasn't even printed before Christmas, ha.

Still, we love a festive moment in April/May!

Posted by: Steve201 4th May 2020, 10:07 PM

Plenty of time to get it ready for December then!

Posted by: Beef Curtains 4th May 2020, 10:32 PM

I wonder if it will get a 4th week at the top this year?

Posted by: Beef Curtains 4th May 2020, 10:33 PM

Band Aid's popularity is decreasing every year, and the lyrics sound more and more archaic. It won't last much longer!

Posted by: Jay* 14th November 2020, 08:04 PM

All I Want for Christmas Is You is back in the UK charts at #60, its 100th week in the Top 100! *.* Its total sales: 2,688,628.


It's off to a stronger start with audio streaming this year, compared to the same week in 2019:

Fri 13th Nov 2020 - #60
7,221 chart sales (ACR applied) / 14,110 sales
333 downloads
1,242,288 premium audio streaming
314,506 ad-funded audio streaming
454,368 video streaming

Fri 15th Nov 2019 - #77
6,162 chart sales (ACR applied) / 11,699 sales
624 downloads
969,389 premium audio streaming
268,486 ad-funded audio streaming
536,961 video streaming


It should end this year with total sales exceeding 3 million *.*


I hope Official Charts Company have sorted out their apparent problem with her video streaming this year (Last year on the Friday 27th Dec chart, OCC only had her down as having 714,076 video streams, whereas Wham had 2,249,051 & Pogues 1,244,542 - yet Mariah's views on YouTube UK that week were far greater than Wham or Pogues... #fix x).

Posted by: Bré 14th November 2020, 08:19 PM

Given that the rest of her streaming numbers are up from this time last year while her video streams are down, I have a feeling they're still siphoning off some of her video streams (which iirc only started happening partway through her run last year) oop ~

Posted by: Brightest Blue 14th November 2020, 10:44 PM

Omg I hope Jess Glynne blocks this

Posted by: tommie 15th November 2020, 07:00 AM

So the same thing can happen to her like it did with Ava Maxx and Ellie Goulding?

Posted by: b 15th November 2020, 09:48 AM

Posted by: Brightest Blue 15th November 2020, 10:47 AM

The meltdowns and distress it would cause

Posted by: Oliver 15th November 2020, 11:49 AM

What are Mariah's chances this year? Are they better/worse than last year?

Posted by: Brightest Blue 15th November 2020, 11:59 AM

Worse cos she’s a flop x

Posted by: Jay* 15th November 2020, 03:17 PM

Worse in theory, because the Christmas chart is on a Friday this year. Streams from Friday 18th-Wednesday 23rd will count towards the chart, but the Christmas Eve streams will be estimated by the OCC (Thursday streams are always estimated... and they'll probably underestimate it because they base it on the streaming trends of the previous 5 days. That won't properly take into account how the songs get huuuuge streams on Christmas Eve).

Then the streams that occur on Christmas Day itself will contribute to the Friday 1st January chart, but on the other days that week there won't be much listening of Christmas songs.

Last year was much more favourable because the chart was revealed on Friday 27th... so that included Christmas Eve streams and Christmas Day, while it was Boxing Day streams that were estimated. Alexa Goulding ended up benefiting the most from that though.

Posted by: T Boy 15th November 2020, 04:02 PM

It’s so ODD how people just stop listening to Christmas songs on Boxing Day. Christmas lasts for 12 days!

Posted by: Brightest Blue 15th November 2020, 04:06 PM

For me, Christmas ends on 27th Dec. Most people are the same.

Posted by: T Boy 15th November 2020, 04:11 PM

How utterly depressing.

Posted by: Dexton 15th November 2020, 04:20 PM

I can't believe I'm playing this song already! But after how 2020 has been, Christmas is like the shining light at the end of a crappy tunnel for a lot of people including myself and there is literally no other song that encapsulates the joy of Christmas quite like this

Posted by: Rossco 15th November 2020, 04:39 PM

The Queen deserved this track to be number 1. It is THEE Christmas anthem.

Posted by: Brightest Blue 15th November 2020, 05:53 PM

27 days is enough ngl

Posted by: Oliver 15th November 2020, 08:24 PM

I sometimes listen to Christmas songs in the summer.

Posted by: Steve201 15th November 2020, 08:42 PM

I think some people are just focusing on Christmas chart week when with the way Christmas songs are being listened to already she could easily be number one at any time in December. The only huge new song I can see between now and the Xmas chart is Miley/Dua although LM or another song could easily rise with albums out or coming out.

Posted by: tommie 16th November 2020, 05:48 AM

My warning rating would increase from 0% to 125% and I wouldn't be permitted on the forums until 2525.

Posted by: Bjork 16th November 2020, 08:37 AM

I always spend Xmas in Spain with my family, where Christmas officially lasts until January 6th that's actually when the presents are given

Posted by: dannjohn 16th November 2020, 10:36 AM

Mariah is doing some Holiday special this year though... though we have no info and there is a rumoured release of her version of 'Where Are You Christmas?' being released...

Posted by: joyride 16th November 2020, 11:39 AM

So the OCC are still effing with her video streams

Mariah is on the Graham Norton show on the 27th to promote her Christmas special, she could get lucky and grab an early number 1 that week. It will also have the benefit of massive 1st December streams.

Posted by: Jay* 16th November 2020, 12:47 PM

It would require a lot of good luck to reach #1 earlier in December, it would certainly rely on normal hits having fairly weak sales!

Mariah's video streams were higher than Wham's and Pogues this week, so hopefully it's a sign that her streams are normal, just down on the equivalent week in 2019?

13th Nov 2020:
454,368 - Mariah (-15.38%)
354,533 - Wham (-6.82%)
84,570 - Pogues (-34.79%)

15th Nov 2019:
536,961 - Mariah
380,483 - Wham
129,698 - Pogues

Posted by: Wall 16th November 2020, 12:51 PM

I’m team Mariah

Posted by: Jay* 16th November 2020, 12:54 PM

⭐

Posted by: joyride 16th November 2020, 03:31 PM

Youtube had her doing 788,486. I really dont understand how the OCC come up with their streams data, it's like they are just making them up.

Posted by: Brightest Blue 16th November 2020, 03:54 PM

LMAOO mood

You’ll be warned for mentioning that Mariah’s sales are down year on year

Posted by: Tafty 16th November 2020, 04:26 PM

No. You'd be warned for being antagonistic and trolling for the sake of it.

Posted by: Jay* 16th November 2020, 04:35 PM

Ultimately these are the 'video streaming' sales OCC gave the 3 songs last week (with ACR applied):

414 - Mariah
330 - Wham!
81 - The Pogues

Whereas these were the video sales on 27th Dec '19 (again, with ACR applied):

2067 - Wham!
1142 - The Pogues
645 - Mariah

Personally I'd say that's a good indication that Mariah's video streams are being counted properly now!

Posted by: Bré 16th November 2020, 04:43 PM

Maybe video streams are just down a lot in general from last year then ~

The OCC's implementation of video streams has been dodgy and error ridden from day 1 though.

Posted by: oof 16th November 2020, 04:57 PM

Wasn't Mariah's first actual week at #1 supposed to be 13th December 2018, she could make it the corresponding week of this year if streams are high enough with no big hits (like Thank, U next which blocked it last time)

Posted by: joyride 16th November 2020, 05:10 PM

Thanks for the stats. It still doesnt sit right with me. On Youtubes charts Wham did 449k, the OCC also calculated less for it but no where near as much as they did for Mariah.

I bet they dont even look at official numbers, just make it up as they go along. Babyshark is number 1 on their video chart this week yet it's not even in YTs top 100

Posted by: lewistgreen 16th November 2020, 05:49 PM

#36 in the chart update today, we stan *.*

Posted by: Thom Renegade K 16th November 2020, 06:14 PM

I’m here for this going to no. 1 this year too, always so much better than the Pogues. I mean, unless Becky Hill does it.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th November 2020, 08:55 PM

I would love it to go number 1 and every year i live in hope it will happen.

Posted by: Brightest Blue 16th November 2020, 09:01 PM

Screaming

Posted by: joyride 17th November 2020, 05:20 PM

#31 in the mids

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th November 2020, 07:37 PM

Should easily go top 30 this week.

Posted by: Jay* 24th November 2020, 04:01 PM

Up to #12 in the midweeks! Interestingly it's following a similar pattern to last year, but comparatively a week earlier than usual.

15/11/2019: #77 | 13/11/2020: #60
22/11/2019: #59 | 20/11/2020: #31
29/11/2019: #34 | 27/11/2020: TBA (Midweek #12)
06/12/2019: #08

This will be the first time 'All I Want for Christmas Is You' has made the Top 20 in November. Would be even more impressive if it could get Top 10, but that might be a bit out of reach.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th November 2020, 07:49 PM

12 at this stage is great, i wonder has it any chance of Top 10 this week.

Posted by: Steve201 28th November 2020, 12:18 AM

Into the top 20 this week!

Posted by: Jay* 28th November 2020, 01:45 AM

Something that's pretty crazy: in the 'old rules' chart, All I Want for Christmas Is You is #2 this week! It sold 36,387, but with ACR applied, that cut its sales down to 18,609 and pushed it down to #14.

In the same week in 2019 (29th November 2019), Mariah was #16 in the 'old rules' chart with 27,565, but #34 with 14,360 in the official chart.

That's an amazing improvement, and we're still not in December. I'm keeping everything crossed that it can somehow finally reach #1 officially.

Posted by: Steve201 28th November 2020, 02:08 AM

She was on Graham Norton tonight

Posted by: Jay* 28th November 2020, 03:21 AM

Official Singles Chart Top 100

2019
15/11 - #77 - 6,162
22/11 - #59 - 8,923
29/11 - #34 - 14,360
06/12 - #08 - 32,389
13/12 - #06 - 34,485
20/12 - #08 - 36,781
27/12 - #02 - 74,076

2020
03/01 - Not Top 100 - 5,146 (476 sales less than #100)
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13/11 - #60 - 7,221
20/11 - #31 - 10,704
27/11 - #14 - 18,609

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'Old Rules' Singles Chart Top 200

D = Downloads
PA = Premium Audio Streaming
AFA = Ad-Funded Audio Streaming
V = Video Streaming
P = Physicals
T = Total Sales as of that week

(If you halve the Premium Audio, Ad-Funded Audio & Video sales figures, that is their weekly sales contribution to the official singles top 100 chart run above)

2019
08/11 - #76 - Unknown (T: 2,220,983)
15/11 - #56 - 11,699 [D: 624 | PA: 9,694 | AFA: 447 | V: 934] (T: 2,232,682)
22/11 - #39 - 17,086 (T: 2,249,768)
29/11 - #16 - 27,565 [D: 1,155 | PA: 24,221 | AFA: 931 | V: 1,258] (T: 2,277,333)
06/12 - #02 - 62,438 [D: 2,340 | PA: 56,324 | AFA: 1,627 | V: 2,146 | P: 1] (Total: 2,339,770)
13/12 - #02 - 66,750 [D: 2,220 | PA: 60,723 | AFA: 1,742 | V: 2,065] (Total: 2,406,521)
20/12 - #03 - 71,372 [D: 2,190 | PA: 65,263 | AFA: 1,779 | V: 2,140] (Total: 2,477,893)
27/12 - #01 - 144,699 [D: 3,153 | PA: 137,065 | AFA: 2,891 | V: 1,290 | P: 300] (Total: 2,622,592)

2020
03/01 - #82 - 10,150 [D: 141 | PA: 9,365 | AFA: 320 | V: 324] (Total: 2,632,742)
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06/11 - #90 - 8,332 [D: 200 | PA: 7,360 | AFA: 297 | V: 475] (Total: 2,674,518)
13/11 - #34 - 14,110 [D: 333 | PA: 12,423 | AFA: 524 | V: 830] (Total: 2,688,628)
20/11 - #14 - 20,919 [D: 489 | PA: 18,535 | AFA: 708 | V: 1,187] (Total: 2,709,549)
27/11 - #02 - 36,387 [D: 830 | PA: 32,661 | AFA: 1,114 | V: 1,782] (Total: 2,745,936)

Posted by: Steve201 28th November 2020, 10:11 AM

Would she sell or stream much before 13/11 do you think?

Interesting how sales are up but not massively the market has fallen too hence the increased position overall.

Posted by: joyride 28th November 2020, 11:58 AM

ACR will forever be the most upsetting thing! She's going to be the real number 1 next week

From those stats her streams are up but downloads doing a little less.

Posted by: joyride 28th November 2020, 12:13 PM

It looks like they've since tried to amend her 27/12 video streams. I say tried because they are still wrong!. But it's gone from 645 to 1,290 now.

Posted by: Jay* 28th November 2020, 01:55 PM

1,290 was its video streaming sales contribution to its total sales in that week, but for the official chart they were halved to 645 with ACR. So it’s still the same! They’ve never amended it unfortunately.

Total sales are always made up of SCR sales, ACR is just for the purposes of the weekly chart.


27/12/2019:

Old Rules Chart with SCR sales
#01 - 144,699 [D: 3,153 | PA: 137,065 | AFA: 2,891 | V: 1,290 | P: 300]

Official chart with ACR sales
#02 - 74,076 [D: 3,153 | PA: 68,533 | AFA: 1,445 | V: 645 | P: 300]

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 28th November 2020, 01:56 PM

Almost certain this will be the year it goes #1 finally! Potentially before Christmas as well, how exciting!

Posted by: Jay* 28th November 2020, 02:09 PM

Keeping my fingers crossed! 😍 I’m glad there isn’t a Dance Monkey-esque huge sales hit at the moment, that really helps Mariah’s chances.

Posted by: Neil 28th November 2020, 03:00 PM

Crazy to think that she'd be #2 under the old rules already, in November!

Would love it if she managed #1 this year in UK, she'll certainly be getting a lot of streams out of me in the run up to Xmas haha.

Posted by: vibe 28th November 2020, 03:38 PM

i have put a bet on that this will be xmas number one

Posted by: Jay* 28th November 2020, 04:04 PM

Good luck! I always do terribly with Christmas betting so I might avoid it this year

There's a new poll in the chart forum! Will it reach #1 this year? http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=240851

Posted by: Tafty 28th November 2020, 07:20 PM

I think it'll get UK #1 but I'm not sure if it'll be Christmas #1..

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th November 2020, 03:57 AM

I'm starting to think it will forever have a number 2 peak but hope it can get to number 1 and I dont even care if its christmas week or not.

Posted by: Sixth Sense 29th November 2020, 09:39 AM

That all depends I think if Ladbaby releases.

Posted by: joyride 29th November 2020, 12:37 PM

Next Friday

She's doing amazing on all platforms

Posted by: Steve201 29th November 2020, 03:04 PM

So she got 70k odd with ACR last year then?? always thought it was SCR that figure, immense!

Posted by: Bré 29th November 2020, 09:31 PM

...do you not remember the 500 posts every day complaining about her not being taken off SCR? Lol ~

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th November 2020, 09:34 PM

Number 4 in todays mids is great, imagine if she snatched the number 1 this week.

Posted by: Jay* 29th November 2020, 10:16 PM

Amazing to see her on course for Top 5 already I hope by some kind of miracle she can snatch the #1 this week. It would be a bit surreal after 3 years of her coming so near but so far, that she has a chance of achieving it early in December. I'm obviously going to jinx it by saying this though x

Posted by: Steve201 30th November 2020, 01:14 AM

Of course I remember that but got mixed up about the sales figure, some going!

Posted by: Steve201 30th November 2020, 01:15 AM

I did votes Friday 4/12 in your poll so I’m gunning for it!

Posted by: joyride 30th November 2020, 02:31 PM

Mariah is 1k from #1 we can do this

Posted by: Jay* 30th November 2020, 03:16 PM

Keeping everything crossed!

Posted by: Lukuzz 30th November 2020, 04:04 PM

Is she at number 2 today then?

Posted by: joyride 30th November 2020, 06:03 PM

Yes just 900 behind Ariana. And Mariah has been discounted now

Posted by: Jay* 30th November 2020, 06:27 PM

Glad to see that her label is pushing for this to happen! Let's see if the download gets a boost.

Before a few days ago I wouldn't have ever believed there'd be a chance that AIWFCIY could get to #1 this year, let alone early on in the month!

Posted by: dandy* 30th November 2020, 06:37 PM

I'm here for this finally making #1 this year. I don't think it will be christmas #1 but I hope it makes it before then.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th November 2020, 07:16 PM

Great time to discount, i really think it has a strong chance of number 1 this week.

Posted by: Steve201 30th November 2020, 11:07 PM

If she gets to number one I just hope she stays there for three weeks until Xmas and ‘Postions’ doesn’t rise again next week.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 30th November 2020, 11:47 PM

I would be happy if it was just 1 week, if it stayed longer even greater.

Posted by: dannjohn 1st December 2020, 11:20 AM

It'd be amazing if it went 'Positions', 'Oh Santa!' then 'AIWFCIY'

Posted by: Christmasteve201 1st December 2020, 02:12 PM

The uproar 😂

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th December 2020, 06:45 PM

That all very familiar position of Number 2 again this week.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th December 2020, 08:21 PM

The whole "will she finally be #1" thing has become such a key part of the festive season now. What are we even gonna talk about if she does do it?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 5th December 2020, 04:29 PM

If she does it we will prob be hoping it will happen again.

Posted by: Jay* 10th December 2020, 06:55 AM

I still can't believe this is finally coming for UK #1!

Posted by: dannjohn 10th December 2020, 10:40 AM

this'll be her first original no.1 in the UK... mad.

500 copies wasnt it that stopped WBT back in 2005?

Posted by: Thom Xmas Kite 10th December 2020, 12:11 PM

If Wham! will ever go to no. 1

Not that I’m not totally here for this.

I absolutely haven’t been streaming it on a loop to chart-hype it

Posted by: Christmasteve201 10th December 2020, 11:26 PM

She’s 10k ahead nearly omg! I think she could be there until January!

Posted by: Jay* 11th December 2020, 12:00 AM

39,627 2 Pac
39,235 Mariah Carey

Posted by: Michael Bubré 11th December 2020, 12:01 AM

Wow, the OCC's chart rigging against Mariah goes back further than we thought!!!!

Posted by: Jay* 11th December 2020, 12:02 AM

They hate Mariah! Salty OCC!

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th December 2020, 12:06 AM

They hate us for allowing 'Against All Odds' to go #1.

Posted by: Christmasteve201 11th December 2020, 12:47 AM

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th December 2020, 02:18 AM

I just want the confirmed chart to it finally number 1. Her going number 1 might get some press which might help her the following week aswell.

Posted by: Simon. 11th December 2020, 06:17 AM

Sleigh Ride now on Spotify

Posted by: dannjohn 11th December 2020, 10:16 AM

is this a thing?

Posted by: pippa 11th December 2020, 01:20 PM

I am amazed this wonderful song will finally achieve Number 1 status.

Posted by: JosephCarey 11th December 2020, 05:43 PM

The UK's OFFICIAL #1!!!!!!

Posted by: tommie 11th December 2020, 05:46 PM

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssss

SCREW U HATERZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: JulianNial 11th December 2020, 05:51 PM

It feels correct, it's crazy it's never been #1 before, I still can't process it.

Posted by: Jay* 11th December 2020, 06:28 PM

I can’t quite believe it! It’s about time

Posted by: LMLou 11th December 2020, 06:37 PM

I’m so glad it’s got the #1 spot. No more worrying about if OCC will change Xmas songs rules before it gets it’s chance now

It was mentioned on the 6 O’clock BBC news just there too!

Posted by: LeGrinch 11th December 2020, 06:54 PM

Is jay okay?

Posted by: Lukuzz 11th December 2020, 07:03 PM

So glad she's finally done it, absolutely buzzing!
Oh Santa at 67 too

Posted by: Jay* 11th December 2020, 07:19 PM

Posted by: Jay* 11th December 2020, 07:20 PM

The last time Mariah had a new Top 75 hit was with #Beautiful in 2013

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th December 2020, 07:27 PM

This really feels like a big moment in the charts seeing this finally go Number 1.

Posted by: Christmasteve201 11th December 2020, 11:22 PM

Fair play a real chart moment hence it making the news as I predicted

Posted by: Tafty 11th December 2020, 11:39 PM

When was the last actual Christmas song to get to number 1? (i.e. not those John Lewis ads)

Posted by: Slade 11th December 2020, 11:40 PM

The 2014 version of 'Do They Know It's Christmas?' perhaps?

Posted by: dancemberlexa 11th December 2020, 11:43 PM

River

Posted by: Christmasteve201 11th December 2020, 11:47 PM

Yeh and River but the last Xmas song to be number one on Xmas day was Band Aid 20 I think

Posted by: Brightest Blue 11th December 2020, 11:49 PM

Record breaking

Posted by: tommie 11th December 2020, 11:50 PM

YOU TRIED IT.

Can we permaban this user pls, it's antagonizing us true fans x

Posted by: joyride 12th December 2020, 12:11 AM

Amazing news today! I'm still buzzing UK #1

Posted by: joyride 12th December 2020, 12:11 AM

Amazing news today! I'm still buzzing UK #1

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th December 2020, 02:22 AM

Wonder can stay next week aswell.

Posted by: LMLou 12th December 2020, 11:18 AM

I wonder if/how well this will chart on the New Years chart. It’ll have the massive Xmas day streams for that chart but then not much else throughout the week, but then there’s the fact the charts are quite weak just now

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th December 2020, 12:40 PM

It will probably fade off alot at that point but still chart, part of me thinks she has a chance of a 3 week number 1 or definitely next week aswell, I'd love it to be the christmas number 1 but if it isnt I'm just happy its finally got to number 1.

Posted by: Christmasteve201 12th December 2020, 01:24 PM

I sort of hope it’ll be number one until January now with Taylor being the only real threat and then a download campaign on Xmas week. Then January will have a new number one to start the year.

Xmas day streams will be 1.3m or so which is huge and then Boxing Day will be 250-300k then 27th 100k then see you next Halloween for it. So it’ll be top 40 most likely until the 7th January

Posted by: Jay* 13th December 2020, 12:39 AM

Love to see that it means a lot to her too!

Posted by: b 13th December 2020, 12:56 AM

Mariah shading the UK Top 40 chart or whatever that shenanigans is called. We love to see it.

Posted by: Tafty 14th December 2020, 07:34 PM

#1 in the US again!

Posted by: dhweck the halls 14th December 2020, 07:36 PM

posted this in the hot 100 thread last week and it might be too early to tell but if she ends up repeating the ‘90s and goes to #1 every year this decade solely bc of this song

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2020, 08:15 PM

Its amazing, waits years for number 1 and is now number 1 there 2 years in a row, in the uk it took years aswell and is now looking like getting its 2nd week.

Posted by: Christmasteve201 14th December 2020, 08:22 PM

Think this is a view of how the UK will look in future years with Mariah too

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th December 2020, 10:39 PM

I'm hoping ireland follows next.

Posted by: Christmasteve201 14th December 2020, 10:42 PM

The Irish chart seems a bit slower to embrace Xmas this year, Mariah only at 22 and rising currently

Posted by: Michael Bubré 15th December 2020, 12:33 AM

Brenda Lee is actually gaining faster than Mariah and has overtaken her on Spotify in the US. I would kind of live for Brenda also getting her turn at the Hot 100 #1 this year.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th December 2020, 04:18 PM

Its still the highest Christmas song in the charts, in last weeks official chart Mariah was Number 5 here in Ireland up from Number 10.

Posted by: Christmasteve201 15th December 2020, 09:28 PM

Is she not number one there?

Posted by: Jay* 18th December 2020, 09:50 PM

2 weeks at #1 in the UK Next week it'll pass 3 million!

Posted by: Christmasteve201 19th December 2020, 01:25 AM

🙌 what a great Christmas this is turning out to be!

Posted by: tommie 21st October 2021, 03:31 AM

She's getting ready...

Posted by: Lukuzz 23rd October 2021, 09:00 AM

Coming for domination again

Posted by: tommie 1st November 2021, 10:30 AM

I love how she's basically embraced the fact that she's THE Queen of Christmas.

Posted by: Sour Candy 1st November 2021, 10:33 AM

Something is coming on Friday too, see the date in that video

Posted by: tommie 1st November 2021, 10:43 AM

I'd love for her to do something with Christmas Time Is In the Air Again.

Posted by: steve201 1st November 2021, 09:05 PM

Literally how the UK public reacts when midnight strikes on Halloween!

Posted by: Hadji 1st November 2021, 10:20 PM

This and LC have had their peaks at #1 so this year, it’s time for FONY to get #1

Posted by: -Jay- 2nd November 2021, 04:22 AM

Very curious about what's happening on 5th November Edit: a new single called Fall in Love at Christmas! Discuss here... http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=250103&pid=6986243&st=0&#entry6986243

Posted by: Mark. 3rd November 2021, 09:54 AM

There's gonna be fireworks

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2021, 02:30 PM

From the clip i heard fall in love at Christmas isn't great at all so i will be sticking with the class all i want for Christmas is you which should have another great year this year, im hoping it can be the biggest selling of the festive Christmas songs again this year.

Posted by: steve201 3rd November 2021, 11:04 PM

No doubt it will!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 5th November 2021, 03:22 PM

Re enters the Top 100 here in Ireland this week at Number 95, nice start for Mariah this year.

Posted by: -Jay- 6th November 2021, 03:35 AM

Not quite there yet in the UK! Its ACR weekly sales were 3,731, but the #100 sold 4,327.

New total: 3,220,874, including 7,302 full sales last week. Its weekly sales were up 129.9%, which means its weekly figure for the 29th October 2021 chart was 3,176! Quite decent pre-Halloween

So its total on 29th Oct was 3,213,572. Its total on 1st Jan 2021 was 3,178,734. That's 34,838 sales achieved from January to October!

There's potential for All I Want for Christmas Is You to sell 500k+ in November and December, so we could be seeing a total of 3.7m by the time Christmas 2021 is over. If this happens, it would go 6xPlatinum (3.6m is needed for that!).

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th November 2021, 12:28 AM

70 in todays mids

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th November 2021, 05:14 PM

up from 95 to 71 in Ireland this week

Posted by: -Jay- 8th December 2021, 01:51 AM

#3 in the UK, which marks the first time its ever been at that position! This is also its 30th week inside the Top 10.

Top 10 positions:

#1 - 2 times
#2 - 9 times
#3 - 1 time
#4 - 4 times
#5 - 5 times
#6 - 4 times
#7 - n/a
#8 - 5 times
#9 - n/a
#10 - n/a

I wonder if it'll ever manage to place at #7, #9 or #10?


Meanwhile... Mariah's new advert for McDonald's (specific to US customers):

Posted by: dannjohn 14th December 2021, 01:31 PM

it was #1 in the UK last year right?