Calendar:
26th March: Australia, Melbourne
9th April: China, Shanghai
16th April: Bahrain, Sakhir
30th April: Russia, Sochi
14th May: Spain, Barcelona
28th May: Monaco, Monte Carlo
11th June: Canada, Montreal
25th June: Azerbaijan, Baku
9th July: Austria, Spielberg
16th July: Britain, Silverstone
30th July: Hungary, Budapest
27th August: Belgium, Spa
3rd September: Italy, Monza
17th September: Singapore, Marina Bay
1st October: Malaysia, Sepang
8th October: Japan, Suzuka
22nd October USA, Austin
29th October: Mexico, Mexico City
12th November: Brazil, Sao Paulo
26th November: Ahu Dhabi, Yas Marina
Drivers:
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton, Valtteri Bottas
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo, Max Verstappen
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel, Kimi Raikkonen
Force India: Sergio Perez, Esteban Ocon
Williams: Lance Stroll, Felipe Massa
McLaren: Fernando Alonso, Stoffel Vandoorne
Toro Rosso: Carlos Sainz Jr, Daniil Kvyat
Haas: Romain Grosjean, Kevin Magnussen
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg, Jolyon Palmer
Sauber; Marcus Ericsson, Pascal Wehrlein
Bottas to merc, Massa back to Williams and Pascal to sauber is basically done deal
Somehow there may be a possibility that Gutierrez could move to Manor and possibly Nasr.
2017 UK F1 TV SCHEDULE
26 March Australia - Sky only
9 April China - Sky only
16 April Bahrain - Sky + Channel 4
30 April Russia - Sky + Channel 4
14 May Spain - Sky only
28 May Monaco - Sky + Channel 4
11 June Canada - Sky only
25 June Azerbaijan - Sky + Channel 4
9 July Austria - Sky only
16 July Great Britain - Sky + Channel 4
30 July Hungary - Sky only
27 August Belgium - Sky + Channel 4
3 September Italy - Sky only
17 September Singapore - Sky + Channel 4
1 October Malaysia - Sky + Channel 4
8 October Japan - Sky only
22 October USA - Sky + Channel 4
29 October Mexico - Sky only
12 November Brazil - Sky only
26 November Abu Dhabi - Sky + Channel 4
I'm glad that Channel 4 have got Monaco back live.
Possibility after 2019 that Silverstone won't host the British Grand Prix:
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10719351/silverstone-consider-axing-gp
Sad news about Manor Racing as they go into administration.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38530855
Not surprised. Thanks to Haas we would have 10 teams still if they did go under so situation isn't as drastic as it was couple of years ago
Apparently Paddy Lowe the Mercedes executive director has left to join Williams.
Vasseur has left Renault by "mutual consent" I.e. Renault have sacked Vasseur
Yeah we dropped to 9 which isn't great. 20-24 car grid is the sweet spot I reckon so as long as we've got 10 we're all good
Marcus Ericsson- a potential Grand prix winner according to Sauber's team boss, really?
I think he's completely correct! In the same way that technically everyone's a potential Grand Prix winner in a race with 19 DNFs
Well only if he joins a select few teams capable of winning in the future or has an Olivier Panis-style Monaco win.
At last Bernie Ecclestone gone as controller of F1.
In what direction would you like to see F1 take now Chase Carey is the controller of F1?
Ross Brawn's vision of changes to F1:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38734708
Killing DRS would be good. Not so sure about the changes to engines.
TBH a full reset to 2005/6 wouldn't be a bad thing. Sure it was gas guzzling engines but Renault won with a budget of like €100m. RBR and Merc are spending over €400m a season right now
Manor F1 have folded following administrators being unable to find a buyer for them. Someone could still purchase the remnants of the team. It means that all three of the new F1 teams who entered in 2010 have all folded.
I would say HRT were the worst out of the three new teams.
There always seemed to be a gap between the established and the newer teams.
Shame. Well if it wasn't for Bianci I'm 99% certain I wouldn't give a shit. Rumour is Renault and I think FI had already been poaching staff en mass
I'm not surprised nor all that disappointed in truth. They did just fill the token back of the grid void vacated by Caterham a few seasons prior. I am glad however Wehrlein took his chance.
Thanks to Manor, here's the first look at a 2017 F1 car:
This must be the final season where we'll see if Hulkenberg and Perez show their potential.
I would expect 2018 to be a better yardstick for Hulk. Depends what Renault shows up with to pre-season on Feb 27th
I would feel if Raikkonen was to retire this season then it would be the final opportunity for Perez to get a top drive in F1 reminds me a bit of Heidfeld's career in him and Hulkenberg for me. I might be the only one who thinks that though.
Which driver pairing are you looking forward to seeing the most this season?
Most interested in seeing who comes out on top between Ricciardo & Verstappen over a full season.
Has to be this season Verstappen and Ricciardo as the most exciting driver pairing. Really looking forward to that battle.
Yeah that one is going to be good. Especially if the noises RBR are making about aero and engine progress are true then from the first euro race they could be serious contenders (RBR have said they expect to start seeing the new engine at full potential from Spain)
How do people see Bottas doing at Mercedes this season?
And we're officially in unveiling season!
Sauber are first to launch their physical car, with 2016 power unit, on Monday. The first all new 2017 challenger will be launched by Renault on Tuesday
Quite like the hint of gold for Sauber's new car.
http://www.planetf1.com/news/sauber-officially-unveil-the-c36-ferrari/
Expecting them to be towards the back along with Haas.
They will be dead last this year with that engine. Love the colour scheme
Quite like the look of that Sauber. Particularly the rear wing, although the nose is still ugly
They'll most likely be companying 19th and 20th on the grid throughout the season, Sauber.
New Renault looks pretty. I rather like the colour scheme
How do you see Renault doing this season, Silas?
Is this the season where Hulkenberg fulfils his potential and nets a podium.
Nah. I think if we can get into the points consistently that'll be good for us. Same with reaching Q3. Realistically I think there's probably another season before the engine is where it needs to be.
We shall see what testing brings but this is probably more of a 2003 season than 2004. I know we got a podium in 03 and if circumstances are kind we could do it this year but I don't think it's likely - unless we can plant the car on pole at Monaco and hold the lead through the first corner
The nose of this new Force India is utterly hideous!! So ugly
And what's with the shark fin as part of their design for Force India.
Very ambitious that they're targeting 3rd in the constructor's championship can't see that happening.
A new livery for McLaren in orange and black:
http://www.planetf1.com/news/meet-mclarens-orange-and-black-mcl32/
And the unveiling of Ferrari's new car:
http://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-unveil-the-2017-sf70-h/
I actually really love that McLaren, gives me Arrows circa 2001/2002 vibes.
Yeah I agree! It's very very Arrows
Just saw an Insta post that had a stacked pic of the new McLaren, an Arrows and a Spyker and omg they're legit so similar. Forgot Spyker were orange.
Has everyone seen the new Toro Rosso? Stunning. Best nose of this years cars and that new livery is sensational
Very impressive livery from Toro Rosso there indeed.
Can't see Alonso staying at McLaren next year if McLaren have another poor season.
Williams have cancelled testing for today following crash damage to the car after Stroll's crash.
Hope it doesn't happen although it looks likely could be another mediocre season for McLaren.
The days where they had Hakkinen & Coulthard are long gone.
Well yes they did win races and won a drivers title in 2008, we'll wait and see what happens this season.
The McHonda shit show is all the BBC seem to be capable of talking about. Looks like a strong showing from Ferrari and RBR and surprisingly Renault. It is testing so you don't really know who is sandbagging and who is driving on fumes. The Renault engines were supposedly running detuned this week. (In all 3 cars)
Could be an interesting year.
No-one if ever will match the achievement that John Surtees did with winning the F1 world title and the 500cc world title.
RIP John Surtees.
Won't miss the Force India card this year. They're now bright pink!
Pink, okay.
It's because of a new sponsorship deal.
Excellent, I love that this year seems to be more diverse in terms of liveries. And I can't recall ever seeing a pink F1 car so that is very unique indeed!
Expecting McLaren and Sauber in locking the back of the grid this weekend.
Fair shout. This years Honda looks like the 2015 Renault tbh. Less reliable and a backwards step
I might have asked this question before, but do you see Alonso staying at McLaren after 2017? I'd be amazed if he does if McLaren are like 2015 all over again.
It'll be interesting to se how Stroll does for Williams in the early races for some reason I have Pizzonia's vibes with him.
I don't think so. He's either retiring or going for a glory year with someone capable of winning. Palmer is on a one year contract. Ferrari are in market again. Not sure Bottas is tied to merc for long either. Plenty of big seats around.
Honestly I see Renault going for Sainz rather than Alonso (as nice as it's be) and I cant see him back at Ferrari so either Merc or retire I think. Shame as he's the superior talent to Hamilton. Hamilton is anonymous when not in the best car and that's when Alonso utterly thrives.
Testing didn't go well for Stroll did it? I'm apprehensive about him coz his daddy clearly bought that seat and I'm not entirely convinced it's deserved. Stoffel for example is a much more promising talent. At that end of the experience scale Stroll is up against Ocon, Werhline, Palmer and Max too and I haven't seen anything that convinces me that he's worth a drive at all never mind capable of beating last years rookies
And Mercedes top both of the practice sessions. Hoping Ferrari and Red Bull put a fight at least in qualifying and the race.
Of course they were sandbagging in testing. The sooner their dominance ends the better.
With the rules changes, they've either f***ed it up again and made it boring or produced close exciting racing. We shall see.
Ric out
Good to see Hammo on pole & Bottas putting up a decent fight! Shame Vettel just pipped him to the front row but at least it's 2 teams at the front I suppose. The start will be interesting with the clutch changes & I can see Seb leading into turn 1 tbf.
Gutted for Danny Ric, a very uncharacteristic error. Should be fun watching him scythe through the field.
Hopefully it will be an interesting race. Didn't see qualifying though. Stroll already looking out of his depth there.
Giovinazzi in for Wehrlein who misses the race due to his back injury. Qualified 17th.
Mightly qualifying for Grosjean in Haas in 6th.
*16th
Very nearly beat Eriksson who lines up 15th. If he'd no made that wee error on the final turn he'd have made Q2.
Palmer is just an embarrassment. His attitude sucked after too. He binned it on Friday and then they had to rush the car so he's nae right to f***ing winge about the car after that. If it continues he'll be gone by the mid point.
I cackled when the overcut worked and at just how loudly the crowd celebrated the dethroning of hamilcunt. Could be a good year after all
I think he got boo'd on the podium a lil too.
Horrid weekend for Dani Ric. hopefully they've not burned through an engine already as that's gonna be costly at the end of the season
Yes he definitely got booed obviously because of his controversial tactics in Abu Dhabi. Good win for Vettel, finally a non-Mercedes win.
Stroll very poor indeed.
Amazed the fans were allowed to invade the track straight after the race when cars were still on the track.
I expect the crowd were cheering mainly just because a Mercedes was overtaken! First win on outright performance for a different team since Singapore 2015. Definitely what the season needed, although if it ends up swinging the other way & Ferrari become the dominant car that'll make for an even worse season given their mantra of a clear first & second driver. Hopefully not & we see a close fight throughout with hopefully RBR getting in the mix too.
Australians never have much luck in Oz do they?
I'm glad though that there was a non-Mercedes win. It definitely needed that. I expect a straight fight between Vettel and the Brit. Can see Raikkonen and Bottas definitely being the no2 driver.
I don't think Bottas should be disappointed with third place. It was a solid drive from him.
Massa had a good drive from his short-lived retirement. He'll much superior to Stroll. I know I have probably written him off, Stroll. He'll have to prove me wrong.
I can see Giovinazzi getting a drive next year hopefully. He'd impressed me considering he had limited running in the car. 12th was probably the best he could have hoped for.
Palmer was very disappointing, a contender to be replaced mid-season if he can't produce any results.
Giovinazzi will be racing again in China as Wehrlein continues his recovery from a back injury he suffered in the Race of Champions back in January.
He's getting a lot of flack for pulling out again :/
I hurt my back over a decade ago and when it hurts real bad there's no way it'd be able to get anywhere near the G forces one of these things produces.
Father of Max, Jos Verstappen has been arrested following a fight at the nightclub.
He could be back as late as Russia, Wehrlein could. Depends how bad the injury is, clearly he isn't fit enough to return just yet. If Antonio produces a similar drive or betters his drive in China he should be able to get a drive for next season.
I think Ferrari are eyeing him as a Kimi replacement. If Kimi stays on for a further year then I think we could see a bidding war for his services. I can see Sauber, Force India and Renault and circling. It's not unthinkable he'd end up at McLaren or Williams but I can see them pairing their rookies with experience next year rather than another rookie.
He has done a very good job for Sauber, given the circumstances. I'm really looking forward to what he can do over a full weekend
No running in second practice due to poor visibility and the medical helicopter being unable to operate.
Going back to Giovinazzi, if Ericsson continues to be poor I think he'll replace him mid-season.
And less than 20 mins of running in FP1! Going to be an interesting weekend with so little running prior to the race
Interesting indeed, the weather could definitely play a part on Sunday.
I watched the last 20 or so laps so missed the safety car dramas. Saw a replay of Gio's crash, feel for the lad tbh really wanted him to have a strong weekend
Two rookie mistakes though from him, Gio. Shame. Hope it's not the last we've see from him.
Stroll- good qualifying but a crap way to go out.
Stroll was unlucky, was 100% Perez's fault that, surprised he escaped without a penalty.
Decent race, nice to see them pushing to the end, always felt this track would be a better indicator of the how effective the new regulations were than Melbourne. Only a week to wait for the next one
Didn't Gio crash near the extract same place where he did in qualifying?
A OK race better than the last one. Looks like Red Bull could join the Mercedes/Ferrari battle in mid-season possibly.
Almost yeah. Other side of track but same stretch pretty much.
The F1 Facebook has a video of Max's first lap where he single handedly does more overtakes than the whole field at Melbourne. I like the Aussie Grand Prix but it's not one for much overtaking neither is Monaco. Canada is probably the best street circuit for overtaking
Pascal Wehrlein back for Sauber for Bahrain.
I hope those two crashes haven't deterred teams from wanting Gio as a driver for next season. If teams can have Yamamoto, Karthikeyan and Crashtor for too long then surely a possible talent could get a drive.
Interesting news-
Fernando Alonso is set to miss the Monaco Grand Prix and take part in the Indy 500 in an McLaren-entered car.
What do you think of this, how do you think he'll do.
Jenson Button looking very likely to replace Alonso for Monaco.
Another short retirement! I think it'd be a shame for them not to use their reserve driver but I understand in a way given that'd leave them with 2 rookies
Palmer has never shown why he could be a future Grand Prix winner. I do wonder why he is still at Renault.
Hulk thrashed him in Quali. However Palmer finally made it out of Q1 reaching Q3 for the first time!
Bottas gets his maiden pole!
Ferrari proving Melbourne wasn't an early season fluke, they have some very competitive racecraft this season. Even without that daft penalty for Hammo I think he'd have struggled to get past Vettel. Shame Bottas faded away in the middle, he looked good in the opening 10 laps!
Feel for Stroll, taken out again by a ridiculous lunge. The McLaren situation never fails to amuse me
Definitely the best race so far! Force India continue to impress despite having very weak pace and qualifying yesterday, 3 double points finishes out of 3 - something I imagine only Ferrari and Mercedes have also managed!
Palmer really is dreadful, about 1.5 seconds behind Hulkenberg yesterday and he ends up finishing last today yet again. I know there were lots of DNFs but still!
Palmer is a rubbish driver. Best race of the season so far if Max hadn't had brake failure he could have played a part in the race.
Another good race. Having a second team in it certainly makes it a lot better.
Pleased to see Hulk got points this week after Renault f***ed up last week. I just can't at Palmer talking the talk, but finishing literally last. He was in the wrong engine mode in Q3 but the gap in Q2 and Q1 was like 0.7secs. So still a huge gap. No way that's set up.
There's rumours that Alonso was spotted chatting to Renault reps with his Manager about a 2018 drive. I WOULD DIE. (of happiness obviously) So Palmer is defo gone for next year. Just a question of when not if.
Will be interesting to see what happens from Russia/Spain when the aero upgrades and engine upgrade hits for RBR. Coz all 6 Renault's are running the 2016 ERS currently. 2017 not coming until Spain with the rest of the upgrade. They reckon it's worth 0.3 alone which with aero (coz its not just the engine this year) could put RBR in the hunt
I think Bottas would feel hard done by if he is asked to move over and help Hamilton win the race for the title. I prefer teams that let drivers race each other and no matter what, not use team orders.
Never been a fan of team orders at all.
Did anyone see this, Renault's vision of what F1 cars would look like in 2027:
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12473/10842828/renault-reveal-their-vision-for-f1-2027-with-spectacular-images
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renault-unveils-f1-2027-concept-car-895651/?s=1
^a link for those of us allergic to the daily hitler.
It looks stunning! Love the idea of active LEDS in the wheel hubs showing data.
A kind hearted Jenson Button has pledged £15,000 to support British Formula 4 driver Billy Monger who has had both legs amputated in an horrific crash live on ITV4 during the BTCC support races.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39651421
Alex Zanardi will be that kids role model from now on. Utterly horrific to hear about tho.
Surely a non-Mercedes car might actually lead in Sochi seeing as every race so far that has been held on Sochi it has been a Mercedes car leading every lap.
Hopefully the signs look positive with Ferrari 1-2 in second practice although I don't read too much into that.
Remind me what's fascinating about Sochi?
Mercs suspiciously off the pace. I don't buy it.
Sochi is noteworthy to see how much money was wasted by Putin in attempting to shore up his image and give legitimacy to his regime while his own people suffer.
Palmer binned it into a wall yet again failing to get out of Q1 a whole second off Hulk's pace. He's simply just not good enough for a factory drive, or any drive.
Rumours of Alonso coming back to Renault for next season. That would please me greatly. Saw somewhere someone saying that Renault is the only place Alonso has ever really been happy/non-disruptive
AT FUCKING LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crying. Didn't think this day would come. Front row lock out for Ferrari!!!! Long live the prancing horse!!!! First time since 2013 we've had a car that isn't a Merc on the front row.
Now to get the Renault powered cars up there.
Not been quite that long surprisingly, Singapore 2015 was the last time. Impressive stuff though, I expected Ferrari to win the race even if a Merc was on pole but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion now, especially with Kyvat way back on the grid this time round.
I forgot the momentary blip where both Ferrari and RBR got ahead.
First front row lockout for Ferrari since the 2008 French Grand Prix!
A great moment for F1 in Ferrari getting 1-2 in qualifying. It's good to see them back at the front. That was my reaction too, Silas when they got 1-2.
amazin! vettel's reaction was brilliant too
v pumped for tomorrow, should be a good race and a great fight up front
That is fantastic for Bottas! Immense start which surprised me as usually its the Ferraris off the grid best. Made up for an otherwise standard tedious Russian GP.
Gutted for Danny Ric, not having the luck this season at all.
Hate that it's another merc victory but am thrilled to see Bottas get his first win and comprehensively thrash Hamilton.
Hulk had a strong race going 39 laps on the ultras!
Yeah I agree that circuit is trash. Like the country to be fair.
I was sitting there like "did Hulk sneakily switch to Supers in the SC????" Was impressive to see them hold on so long, more Michelin/Bridgestone esque tyres this year.
No passing at all in Sochi. Good to see Bottas get that first win. Great drive from him.
Palmer still showing no signs of any F1 potential following his performance in Russia.
it really isn't looking good for him
It would be a daft idea if you had points from 1st-20th for every finisher.
Yeah his days have got to be numbered. There is no way he keeps his seat for next year and without Manor I can't see a pay drive slot for him either. The Renault should be competitive enough next year not to have an issue attracting talent so they will be able to jettison the driftwood. Even if they don't sign nando they've got a driver development programme
ia, it could make it a little more exciting at the back end of the field if there's an incentive to cling onto a certain position. plus i really don't see the harm in so many points being divvied out..
If there was an element of prize money to be added if this were going to happen then I'll be swayed. It would definitely help teams like Sauber shame this didn't happen when Caterham, Manor were on the grid.
just booked tickets for monaco qualifying ahhhh
also i'm so tempted to do baku with mariah closing the show lol
Jealous that you're off to Monaco!!!!
Not so much about Baku.
Baku was a letdown last year.
Promised quite a bit and was hyped up but delivered very little.
Hamilton crashing was it's only redeeming feature
The support races were more dramatic than the actual F1 race from Baku if I remember correctly.
Hopefully this year's will be more interesting to watch.
Would be good going into Spain that Red Bull has closed the gap to Mercedes/ Ferrari.
There is no reason why Bottas can't make an challenge for the world title this year. I wonder what price he is for the world title.
Just caught up with this season, great to see Bottas win his first GP but dear lord, what a dull race that was. Aside from the first lap, was there a single overtake? It did get a little tense towards the end I guess, but Sebastian was never gonna overtake.
Jolyon's a bit rubbish isn't he? I'm really gunning for him to do well because I want there to be a Brit that I like on and off track (he seems like a nice enough bloke, unlike Lewis), but he's just dreadful. Hopefully he'll improve with experience, if he gets a chance.
Only a couple where I may have blinked in regards to overtake. Russia was very dull.
Palmer really needs to up his game, he just seems to struggle under pressure. He needs to at least match Hulkenberg on pace which is very unlikely.
ia about palmer. do we think he will actually be brought back next year? his potential is high however his results so far this year have been dire. I would love to see him improve cos like juranamo it's finally a recent brit after button that I can actually warm to...
really looking forward to the Spanish Grand Prix tho, one of my favs.
If he improves vastly, it could be brought back next year or move teams, where I'm not sure. We'll only have one Brit in the grid if Palmer was dropped. He really needs to start getting some results.
No way he keeps a Renault seat next year. They and he both know that already. His results are shite but they didn't have a good enough car to attract the calibre of people they wanted so settled. Let's not forget he only got his contract because Haas signed KMag. They offered that seat to 90% of the grid then settled for Palmer because they couldn't be f***ed with a rookie and I don't think they or anyone else expected them to have made such a leap over winter.
He's 100% not staying at Renault next year. I'm praying for Alonso or Sainz personally.
I don't want Renault to keep Palmer for next year because of his results, personally he should have been dropped last year. Renault should given a rookie a chance like the Russian test driver what about Sirotkin?
Give him a chance and see what he can do.
To be honest I was happy myself when Palmer was retained, I think I said at the time a lot of drivers don't get quite enough time before they're axed and never seen from again, the Red Bull teams most guilty of this but he really has been poor this season. That pace difference to Hulkenberg isn't good reading. He was unlucky at Russia in the race being taken out at the first corner but he put himself in that position tbf with his screw up in quali.
I'd like to see Sirotkin given a go at some point, his name's been bubbling around for a few years now, hope he's not the next Gary Paffett just missing out on a race seat again & again!
Nando got 3 corners into FP1 before the Honda disintegrated. Bless his soul he must be dying right now
With what's happened to Alonso in McLaren he has patience of a saint.
^ he really does
you really do have to feel sorry for him. another awful practice
Dead last. Even Palmer kicked his ass.
He's continuing his run of poor luck at home. He never seems to be able to pull off a decent result in Barca.
Palmer the useless strikes again
Alonso qualifying in 7th place is probably my highlight of the year so far. Pushing that car to its limits.
Palmer just got mugged by the McLaren of Vandorne. Sack now please.
Renault S.A. and RenaultSportF1 confirmed by SkySportsF1 to be victims of the worldwide hack that took out the NHS this week.
do we think plan c would have worked? he had nothing to lose i wish he woulda just gone for it with about 15 laps to go..
thrilled for ricciardo gutted for max
He'd have had to make up 24 seconds in 16 laps. That's no impossible but I dunno if he'd have run the tyres ragged by the time he caught up to Hamilton so both would be on shite rubber.
Actually quite an enjoyable Spanish GP! Pleased as punch with 6th for Hulk!
Vandoorne has a 3 place penalty for Monaco as a result of the Massa incident. Not that it'll matter, he'll have like 15 places in Engine penalties anyway.
Force India have been summoned for breaking the new rules on number/name visibility. Red on Pink was a stupid choice but I don't recall seeing the names anywhere.
I cheered when Vettel nudged him off the track to keep the lead! Was gutted when both of them went out, not as much as that kid though - It was super sweet when they showed that he'd gotten to meet Kimi
I agree, it's been a while since there one was so good.
Another great Spanish GP, was fab to actually have some action at the front for once!
It's good to see them being more lax on incidents this season, a few of those yesterday would probably have brought about harsh pens in previous years.
Looking pleasant the weather for Monte Carlo on raceday so far according to the forecast unlike last year.
Hamilton P14!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The schadenfreude is real
Kimi P1 for the first time since France 2008
So finally, both McLarens make Q3... But both have engine change related penalties. Shame. Button has to settle for a P20 start on what is likely to be his last GP.
That was frustrating for McLaren arguably their best qualifying session with both going through to Q3 with Alonso's 7th in Barcelona.
Should be a good race hopefully.
Noooooooooooooooooooooo Hulki
Truly massive shunt between Button and Wehrlein. Glad to see Pascal is ok and able to get out and walk away once they pulled the car out the barriers
Well that race certainly livened up towards the end! Major oops moment from Button there.
Feel for Kimi, complete puppet in that Ferrari team, harks back to the Barrichello days.
Great to see Danny Ric on the podium!
Wow that whole podium ceremony was laughably unorganised.
so pleased for ricciardo and vettel but gutted for kimi. 2nd is nothing to be sniffed at but i thought the race really was his as it went on. impressive improvement for hamilton too.
side note.. that minute silence was an absolute mess. people even on the track chatting and smiling during it. so disrespectful.
dream come true
I am so jealous!!
lucked out and got a seat with a view of the pit stops too 😱 and even luckier the ones in front of me were Mercedes Ferrari and Red Bull. vandoorne crashed right in front of me and I've never heard anything like it. will never underestimate the power of the cars again.
I'll be surprised if Sainz Jr isn't on the grid next season.
Unsure if anyone is bothered, but I've worked out how last years' championship would have panned out if the points system was still the same as before (10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1). Interestingly, Nico would have come second as Hamilton scored the same number of points but had more victories! So we can be thankful we're no longer on the old system (unless you're a fan of Lewis )!
01 [136] 🇬🇧 44 Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
02 [136] 🇩🇪 06 Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)
03 [068] 🇦🇺 03 Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull)
04 [055] 🇳🇱 33 Max Verstappen (Toro Rosso / Red Bull)
05 [055] 🇩🇪 05 Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari)
06 [043] 🇫🇮 07 Kimi Räikkönen (Ferrari)
07 [015] 🇲🇽 11 Sergio Pérez (Force India)
08 [013] 🇫🇮 77 Valtteri Bottas (Williams)
09 [005] 🇪🇸 14 Fernando Alonso (McLaren)
10 [005] 🇧🇷 19 Felipe Massa (Williams)
11 [004] 🇷🇺 26 Daniil Kvyat (Red Bull / Toro Rosso)
12 [004] 🇩🇪 27 Nico Hülkenberg (Force India)
13 [003] 🇫🇷 08 Romain Grosjean (Haas)
14 [003] 🇪🇸 55 Carlos Sainz (Toro Rosso)
15 [001] 🇬🇧 22 Jenson Button (McLaren)
16 [000] 🇩🇰 20 Kevin Magnussen (Renault)
17 [000] 🇧🇷 12 Felipe Nasr (Sauber)
18 [000] 🇬🇧 30 Jolyon Palmer (Renault)
19 [000] 🇩🇪 94 Pascal Wehrlein (MRT)
20 [000] 🇧🇪 47 Stoffel Vandoorne (McLaren)
21 [000] 🇲🇽 21 Esteban Gutiérrez (Haas)
22 [000] 🇸🇪 09 Marcus Ericsson (Sauber)
23 [000] 🇫🇷 31 Esteban Ocon (MRT)
24 [000] 🇮🇩 88 Rio Haryanto (MRT)
01 [272] 🇩🇪 Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team (Mercedes)
02 [126] 🇦🇹 Red Bull Racing (TAG Heuer)
03 [098] 🇮🇹 Scuderia Ferrari (Ferrari)
04 [019] 🇮🇳 Sahara Force India Formula One Team (Mercedes)
05 [018] 🇬🇧 Williams Martini Racing (Mercedes)
06 [006] 🇬🇧 McLaren Honda Formula 1 Team (Honda)
07 [004] 🇮🇹 Scuderia Toro Rosso (Ferrari)
08 [003] 🇺🇸 Haas F1 Team (Ferrari)
09 [000] 🇫🇷 Renault Sport Formula 1 Team (Renault)
10 [000] 🇨🇭 Sauber F1 Team (Ferrari)
11 [000] 🇬🇧 Manor Racing MRT (Mercedes)
Not at all that's very interesting thanks for that.
Reminds me of when Bernie penned that ridiculous medal system where it would be down to number of victories & there was an article revealing all the changes in titles throughout the history of the Sport had such system been in place from the start. I think Prost would have had like 6 titles & Mansell/Clark 2 extra.
I am the great fan of Formula One. Thanks for sharing the calender.
Liberty Media want more than 21 races a year apparently. I'd be interested to hear what people think of this, whether they think this is a good idea or not.
against
as much as i'd selfishly like to watch more races i think there are even some current circuits that could be scrapped so adding more would just seem pointless. they should shake up the current calendar before even considering adding more imo.
sochi can go for a start..
I'm not against more Grand Prix provided the current calendar is adjusted.
The loss of Malaysia is not good as that's a good circuit and doesn't have a billion miles of run off. All these hyper-sterile Tilke droams can do one. Love that France is returning, but Paul Riccard. Nej takk.
Circuits like Spa and Nurbergring that punish driver who f*** up are where we need to be. Gravel traps are far better than concrete.
Kubica was testing the 2012 Lotus-Renault E20, in 2017 Renault livery, today at Valencia!!! Did 115 laps and a mix of long runs, qualifying pace and practise starts.
If I was Palmer I'd start getting very f***ing worried for my job security as Renault have indicated that he may do further tests - presumably in older machinery again
Oh wow that's great to hear! One of the best drivers on the grid back in 07/08 in my books, was such a great moment him winning in Montreal a year after THAT crash.
Now or never for McLaren and Honda in regards to keeping Alonso.
I'll be amazed if he stayed at McLaren next year for sure. Almost been embarrassing how McLaren have been in 2015 and at the start of this year.
turn 6 🙈
Might be worth a read this:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130010/f1-fans-pick-their-ideal-grand-prix-calendar
Regarding fans picking their ideal Grand Prix calendar. Are you watching, Liberty Media?
Interesting list there! Surprised in a way to see Monza up in second, I know it's a classic circuit n all but there hasn't been a truly exciting race there since what, 2008? Can't argue with a lot of the others, Imola would be amazing to see back & as for Laguna Seca, well seeing these wide F1 cars navigate The Corkscrew chicane would be quite the sight.
Shout out to Hungaroring too, been some absolute belters there the past few seasons.
What a lap! Equalling Senna's career tally of poles. With Vettel also on the front row that makes things more interesting, shame I won't be able to watch this one live :/
Meh.
Looking forward to the Grand Prix tomorrow. Canada usually provides a great race with some decent crashes. Hoping Vettel can mug the douchebag into the first turn today.
I wonder who out of Vandoorne, Stroll and Palmer will crash into the 'Wall of Champions'?
None of them. They need to be traveling at speed for that
Kubica is targeting a full return to F1!!! Palmer's days are numbered! YAY
2 of my favs already out and only 13 laps in agh
What an exciting start!!! Gutted for Max, he was on a stormer and that start was electric.
Hulk on the charge!
Can't decide if Bae Sainz was to blame for that or if it was Roman
Great race! Lots of battles and overtakes throughout the field.
Force India is not in a happy place right now. Perez refusing to yield for Ocon
Quite a good drive from Stroll. I have criticised him on here before. But he had a good drive and did well to finish 9th. That should settle some pressure for him.
I don't feel like Stroll's drive was particularly special, he was still way off the pace of the other Mercedes. This is just a track that he is especially familiar with (I'd assume) and the cars he was racing with (McLaren and Haas, in particular) didn't have the same straight line speed. He's still yet to impress me...
Palmer still struggling is a shame, and I would not want to be in Pérez's shoes right now. 🙈
It was a very good GP though, much more fun than the Monaco and Russian borefests!
Current championship standings:
Drivers
01 [141] 🇩🇪 05 Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari)
02 [129] 🇬🇧 44 Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
03 [094] 🇫🇮 77 Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes)
04 [073] 🇫🇮 07 Kimi Räikkönen (Ferrari)
05 [067] 🇦🇺 03 Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull)
06 [045] 🇳🇱 33 Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
07 [044] 🇲🇽 11 Sergio Pérez (Force India)
08 [027] 🇫🇷 31 Esteban Ocon (Force India)
09 [025] 🇪🇸 55 Carlos Sainz (Toro Rosso)
10 [020] 🇧🇷 19 Felipe Massa (Williams)
11 [018] 🇩🇪 27 Nico Hülkenberg (Renault)
12 [010] 🇫🇷 08 Romain Grosjean (Haas)
13 [005] 🇩🇰 20 Kevin Magnussen (Haas)
14 [004] 🇩🇪 94 Pascal Wehrlein (Sauber)
15 [004] 🇷🇺 26 Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso)
16 [002] 🇨🇦 18 Lance Stroll (Williams)
17 [000] 🇬🇧 30 Jolyon Palmer (Renault)
18 [000] 🇸🇪 09 Marcus Ericsson (Sauber)
19 [000] 🇪🇸 14 Fernando Alonso (McLaren)
20 [000] 🇮🇹 36 Antonio Giovinazzi (Sauber)
21 [000] 🇧🇪 02 Stoffel Vandoorne (McLaren)
22 [000] 🇬🇧 22 Jenson Button (McLaren)
Constructors
01 [222] 🇩🇪 Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport (Mercedes)
02 [214] 🇮🇹 Scuderia Ferrari (Ferarri)
03 [112] 🇦🇹 Red Bull Racing (TAG Heuer)
04 [071] 🇮🇳 Sahara Force India F1 Team (Mercedes)
05 [029] 🇮🇹 Scuderia Toro Rosso (Renault)
06 [022] 🇬🇧 Williams Martini Racing (Mercedes)
07 [018] 🇫🇷 Renault Sport Formula One Team (Renault)
08 [015] 🇺🇸 Haas F1 Team (Ferrari)
09 [004] 🇨🇭 Sauber F1 Team (Ferrari)
10 [000] 🇬🇧 McLaren Honda Formula 1 Team (Honda)
As expected, very low figures for the Canadian Grand Prix:
https://f1broadcasting.co/2017/06/13/canadian-grand-prix-dips-below-two-million-viewers/
Canada is on the Calendar until 2029!!!!!!!!
Wow!, that is great news to see Canada on the calendar until then.
Just an idea, Channel 4 try and put the US, Canada and Mexico live.
It'll be interesting to see what happens between the Force India drivers throughout the season after what happened in Canada. Would Ocon have got past Ricciardo, I don't think he would have.
I would like to see Kubica hopefully get a chance to have a seat in F1 again for next year.
I would too!!
Renault have since revealed that they only made a "very very minor" change to the wheel to accomodate Kubica's injury. They also said they never had a worry about his pace (but that he was as rapid as they had expected he would be. He was v.quick) but the thing they were all more concerned about was the endurance aspect but he went above and way beyond Renault and Kubica's own expectations and hopes
The way Renault are talking it doesn't sound like he will replace Palmer this year but he could be lined up for a 2018 drive and that'd be magnificent. I'd love to see him back in team bumblebee
Again it would be an remarkable comeback from him. He is an inspiration to any future drivers out there, that you don't give up on your dream in being a racing driver despite an career-threatening injury.
I agree! It really would be. It'd be such a great moment for sport in general to see him back in the sport competing. Even if it's just a year.
Hulk and Kubica would be a bloody good driver line up (as much as I'd love nando to drive for us again)
Surely Palmer's seat will be replaced mid season following his performance?
The provisional 2018 Calendar was released yesterday:
25 March: Australia (Melbourne)
8 April: China (Shanghai)
15 April: Bahrain (Sakhir)
29 April: Azerbaijan (Baku)
13 May: Spain (Barcelona)
27 May: Monaco
10 June: Canada (Montreal)
24 June: France (Paul Ricard)
1 July: Austria (Spielberg)
8 July: Great Britain (Silverstone)
22 July: Germany (Hockenheim)
29 July: Hungary (Budapest)
26 August: Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)
2 September: Italy (Monza)
16 September: Singapore
30 September: Russia (Sochi)
7 October: Japan (Suzuka)
21 October: USA (Austin, TX)
28 October: Mexico (Mexico City)
11 November: Brazil (Sao Paulo)
25 November: Abu Dhabi (Yas Marina
Seriously what the hell with a triple header. 3 races back-to-back and yet the season will finishes near the end of November.
Monisha Klatenbourne has apparently parted ways with Sauber!!!
I don't think Ocon would have got past Ricciardo but it was poor from Perez to not allow him the chance, likelihood is he would have been let back past anyway but he should have yielded, he had nothing to lose really as he was never gonna keep Seb behind him.
Yeah I'm happy for Stroll to get some points, especially at his home race. Pretty good GP overall!
And back to Baku we go. A pointless venue for a Grand Prix. Where would we see Azerbaijan and F1 in the same sentence, with the old fossil Bernie who decided to put a Grand Prix together with a $70 million per year deal.
The first race was so boring apart from Hamilton crashing in qualifying haha.
And once again it is the so-called 'Special One' he thinks he refers himself to on pole with Bottas on the front row.
It's hope there is at least some crashes in the race in an otherwise uninspiring circuit.
what an eventful race! ia with ricciardo that i would have bet money on this NOT happening but i'm so glad it did with ricciardo poll, bottas coming back from last and stroll getting his first ever podium. brilliant finish. gutted for max once again with the engine failure. he's the king of the overtake and with so many safety cars deployed could have easily been a 1 2 for red bull 😟
I really liked this track when it appeared last year, and everything pointed towards a great race but that wasn't the case. Thankfully it delivered this year and then some! Agreed this could join the Canada 2011s in terms of most memorable grand prix ever, time will tell. Can't wait for our return to Baku next April!
I'm exhausted after watching it, such a roller coaster. Sad for Force India a potential double podium in the end was ruined but glad Ocon clawed back some points. Very pleased for Stroll, very impressive!
Of all the Grand Prix weekends to go on bloody holiday!!!! Thought I was safe as last years was pure shit. Am looking forward to catching up with this one when am back home
It's worth the watch for definite.
Oh my days. What. A. Race. Haven't been so hooked throughout ones entirety for many, many months. Agreed with the Canada 2011 comparisons but also the 2 Hungarian ones in 2014 & 2015 spring to mind.
Elated for Danny has a knack of winning the lotteries, was a shame for Lewis to lose out due to something like a headrest not being fitted but I'm just glad the victory was passed onto Ric.
As for Vettel, what an absolute disgrace he was. Very arguable indeed as to whether he was brake-tested, it's always the leading car that dictates the pace once the safety car pulls in & Seb simply misjudged it completely, I've seen him drive even slower than that back in the RBR days when he was out in front. To then go & channel his inner-Schumi and have the nerve to question why he got the penalty, what a twat.
Elsewhere it's a shame for Max with all these retirements, he'd have been on for the victory himself today had everything else remained as it were. And those Force Indias dammit! Another who had a great chance would have been Perez, long overdue a win he is.
I've only seen a replay of that incident on the FIA highlights but it looks like Vettel is completely in the wrong. Had he not been a child and done the nudge (which as a hater of Hamilton I did enjoy seeing some instant karma come his way, shame it didn't break his suspension tbh) I think there could have been an argument for driving at an unsafe speed behind the safety car but he didn't slow down. He just crawled through the corner and then didn't accelerate hoping to back the pack into each other as they cornered because he's a complete knobend (I probably would have done the same but I'm a bit of a knobend when I get super competitive).
Vettel could have argued that he was expecting him to accelerate out of the corner and not got a penalty for running into him. But he undid his moral high ground with his nudge.
FIA Data says Hamilton didn't brake and he did same as last safety car restart in exact same spot so as much as it makes me vom to type this, he is in the right.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-vettel-fia-investigation-ferrari-924519/?s=1
He was in the wrong but if they ban Vettel for a race and that makes the difference in the championship I think that might destroy the credibility of the Sport. It will look like they sabotaged Vettel to coronate Hamilton.
Yes, Vettel shouldn't have done what he had but he doesn't need to be punished any further. If he gets a ban for it, it would damage the credibility of the sport. Events like this should be settled on the day of the race at least. He got an 10-second penalty for it. He's got the penalty points on his licence.
Look at Maldonado's swipe at Hamilton back in Spa 2011, he got an five-place grid penalty for that. For taking a swipe on the approach to Eau Rouge.
Whilst I wouldn't like to see a race ban given to him, they have to look at this particular matter more seriously. He was already in their bad books for openly swearing at Charlie Whiting at Mexico last year & warned him then any more trouble and there could be further repercussions.
And compare his move to Schumi at Jerez 97, he was disqualified from the entire championship never mind just the next race. OK that was at race speed but the intention appeared to be of a similar nature. I personally think the 10 place stop-go was just about enough however, I think the main reason it appeared not so harsh to some was the fact that he ultimately finished ahead of Lewis due to his freak issue. Had that not happened Vettel would have lost the lead in the title race & most people would have been like "well, that stop-go was punishment enough".
He gotta be a good boy at Austria though or the race ban will be unavoidable.
It could be that Vettel gets a grid penalty when the FIA meet up to decide what action take. Although yes it look he meant to do that. I wouldn't be surprised if Vettel and Hamilton clashed again later in the season.
No further action after Vettel apologised.
Didn't think he'll get punished for it. He's apologised. So we move on to Austria.
In other news-
Robert Kubica is set to get another test for Renault- no news on when that will be.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I was Palmer I'd be feeling very uncomfortable.
Last Renault were saying it was all "yeah it was amaze but it was just a one off" to "he's not currently on our list for 2018"
Kubica reporting that theres a 80-90% chance he'll be back in F1. Renault test is this month at an undisclosed local. Also rumours of Palmer being brexited at the summer break in favour of Kubica are intensifying. That particular mill also says that Kubica was quicker in the Simulator at Enstone than Hulk
Would love to see Kubica back in the Sport and as much as I was backing Palmer to do well this season, it just simply isn't happening so I'm all for this potential mid-season switcheroo!
And once again the future of the British Grand Prix is in doubt over Silverstone apparently looking to terminate their contract to host it after 2019.
I don't think it's in doubt, Brands Hatch are supposedly willing to snatch it. It's just for a better deal and I don't blame them.
Renault have confirmed that this second Kubica test at Paul Ricard next week is for him to test his capabilities to return to the top level of competition. AKA an audition.
BRB am dying.
And The So-Called Special One gets a five place grid penalty thanks to a gearbox change. Sorry just never liked him since 2009.
My mother and I may have slightly celebrate this news earlier
Here's hoping Bottas does the job tomorrow then (or y'know a RED BULL).
Is the race worth a watch at all?
Only for the start & the end. You can skip the 69 laps in the middle
Boring as anything then?
Not the most exciting of races this season let's just say. At least Danny got yet another podium!
I wouldn't even watch after the pack round turn 5 on lap 1. Wish it'd rained
Maybe the weather will play a part next week in Silverstone.
Good win for Bottas though in a mostly dull race.
Great to see Ricciardo on the podium again. Well played Daniel.
As expected, Silverstone have decided to drop F1 after 2019 because of costs unless there is a new deal. Shame to see that happen.
Yeah seems a little more alarming this time round as opposed to the umpteen times this debate has reared it's ugly head in the past. I'll remain confident for now some deal can be agreed but this would be the biggest miss in the calendar if it were to happen.
I do feel we really do need a British Grand Prix in F1. No matter where it is. It's a shame that Silverstone looks very likely to drop F1. Can't see Brands Hatch or Donington Park hosting F1.
F1 Live in London streaming now, and is being co-hosted by Rochelle from The Saturdays!
All the drivers including Rosberg and Button seem to be there, except for Lewis Hamilton who hasn't turned up. This is exactly why he's by far my least favourite driver.
Damon Hill saying if we all wish, Hamilton could win the British Grand Prix and an eruption of boos from the audience! Glad people are realising what Hamilton is like, he can't even turn up to see thousands of fans in his home capital city in a once-in-a-lifetime fan event.
Looks like literally everyone is there except Lewis.
And now we get Little Mix on stage! This is quite the perfect event isn't it, Little Mix, all F1 drivers bar Lewis Hamilton
Cool. Bad on Hamilton for not making it.
Lewis is too cool for all this
(Jokes, he really should have made the effort to attend this, 'specially when everyone else is there).
Actually had no idea this event was happening! Wonder if the London street GP is back in the pipeline now Silverstone is gonna be pulled.
Even Liberty Global had a dig at Hamilton for not attended by saying they were loved the participation of "all teams and 19 drivers".
No excuse for Hamilton not being there. Hes paid more than enough, this is part of his job.
In other news today there are rumours that Sauber-Honda is dead before it began. Apparently Honda pulled out after Monisha was pushed out. Renault's short lived TP Vasseur replaces her. (I'd happily do a swap and take Monisha in some capacity at RF1)
RBR going out on Inters coz it's wet wet wet at Silverstone!
Red Flag as Dany Ric has turbo failure at the old pit complex.
Alonso gambled with slicks and has finished Q1 fastest!
Cross your fingers guys! Hamilton under investigation for impeding Grosjean. (And it was f***ing blatant)
Could be on for a Ferrari front row and Kimi pole with a Renault powered row 2 with Verstappen and Hulkenberg!
Hulk has a new floor on his Renault this weekend and it's clearly doing the job for them
Pity he had a 30-place grid penalty looming (and Vandoorne outqualified him regardless surprisingly).
What a monstrous lap from Lewis! Didn't actually realise Bottas had a grid penalty that's a bit of a shame.
Bit of a gutter for Danny Ric but I suppose it's about time something happened to his car instead of Max for once...
Stormer of a lap from Vandoorne to out Q Alonso for the first time.
Two weeks in a row tho Williams have had an absolute shocker!
No action against Hamilton What a surprise that is.
That went wrong for Ferrari so fast
What a crazy few laps! Oops at Ferrari Nice one there Lewis 👍 4 in a row now
Some cracking racing today, Seb vs Max then Seb vs Bottas, Silverstone simply has to stay.
Loved seeing Danny carve through the field too, top 5 from the back of the grid!
Best of all only 1 point in it now, game very much on.
Not the same sport it used to be ever since all these rule changes a few years back, and I cannot stand Lewis!.
Also, do Channel 4 have all these silly film clips when its British GP weekend?. BBC's clip of Lewis "playing" an acoustic guitar still leaves a scar on the brain, let alone a bunch of people crowding round a driver when they are being interviewed.
Used to love this sport, now it's Moto GP taking its place for me.
He partied with Beiber in Greece instead of turning up to London. He 'needed a break' when there's a mid season break starting errrr now.
I'm not much of a Hamilton fan - I think he's overrated as a driver and a bit of an arse, but a during his time at McLaren a friend of mine made an advert for Santander and both Hamilton and Button were involved. It got canned when Hamilton announced he was leaving for Mercedes shortly after.
My friend did say that whilst Hamilton was away from the media he was a delight and came across as thoroughly likeable, to the point were my friend couldn't equate the public persona with the private one yet as soon as he had to present himself for the cameras he became awkward and came across as rude and stand-offish, and it suddenly made sense.
Button was apparently exactly the same and totally at ease in both situations.
I agree that Hamilton comes across as a surly, spoiled brat on race weekends (especially if it isn't going his way) and I know that doesn't tell the whole story and I agree not doing the London event was a huge faux pas again.
It just seems he finds that side of the business really difficult and it brings out the worst in him
Silverstone would be a massive loss to the calendar.
Crazy last couple of laps did Verstappen have a puncture?
Solid and good drive from Hulkenberg in the Renault to finish 6th.
Some shit driving from Kvyat once again.
They pitted Max as they felt he could have one Vettel-style, think he would have finished 4th either way (providing he didn't actually puncture of course).
That Kyvat crash was f'ing hilarious the latest in a long line of recent team mate clashes!
Paul Di Resta stepped in for Commentary, he did pretty well I thought. Was always a shame his career ended when it did.
Paul Di Resta was an underrated driver, I felt. I felt he could have an similar path to his career in F1 like Hulkenberg. He's a far better driver than Palmer.
In other news-
Looks like the 'halo' device will be introduced next year according to the FIA.
Haas announced on Friday that Romain Grosjean and Kevin Magnussen will remain in the team for next year.
And Renault today officially confirmed Kubica will drive the 2017 Renault F1 car at the post-Hungary test
That is great and exciting news about Kubica driving the 2017 Renault car at the post-Hungary post. We shall see if he is able to drive the car with ease without any problems. If so, no reason why we won't hear an announcement to say he'll be driving at the Belgian Grand Prix.
A look at the state of the 2018 Driver Market:
Mercedes:Hamilton(contracted) Bottas(likely) Vettel and Alonso(rumoured)
Ferrari:Vettel(likely) Raikkonen, ,Perez, Sainz,Alonso(rumoured)
Red Bull:Verstappen (contracted) and Ricciardo (contracted)
Force India:Ocon(contracted) Perez(likely) Wehrlein(Rumoured)
Williams: Massa and Stroll(likely) Grosjean,Alonso and Wehrlein(rumoured)
Haas:Magnussen(contracted) Grosjean(contacted)
Toro Rosso: Kvyat(likely) Gasly(rumoured) Sainz (out of contract)
Renault:Hulkenberg( contracted) Perez, Sainz,Alonso, Kubica ,Sirotkin (rumoured) Palmer(out of contract)
Mclaren:Vandoorne(likely) Sainz (rumoured) Alonso(out of contract)
Sauber: Ericssion and Wehrlein(Out of contract) Giovinazzi and Maatsushita (rumoured
I think Palmer being binned for Belgium depends on how he performs at Hungary in a car that works. If he under performs in quali again and only finishes 11th then he'll be a goner. (Depending of course on how hulk goes but I imagine he will score points given the floor upgrade that had the Renault singing at silverstone)
Scoop on SkySports as they've just caught the pedals coming out of Massas car. After he was unwell last night it looks like Di Resta is coming in for Massa for Quali and the Race having never driven the 2017 Williams ever
Now confirmed. Di Resta will race for the first time since 2013!
A race that looked as if were building up to something exciting but ultimately never delivered. Hopefully those 3 points Lewis handed back will become nothing more than academic come the year end whichever way the title goes, fair play from Merc there tho!
This does seem to be the season of team mate collisions, bit clumsy from Max there at the start.
Decent result for McLaren today, double points finish & the fastest lap!
And lastly good on Di Resta this weekend, a solid drive & shame it ended in a DNF.
Nico had a few choice words about KMag after the race!! That was a bit of a moment there with him just shoving Nico off into the grass. 5 secs felt like a bit of a weak penalty
Interesting exchanges at the end and now Hulkenberg is calling KMag as trying to be like Verstappen or something.
Team Hulkenberg tbh.
KMag wasn't sporting with his defence there in the slightest. He was moaning about Hulk v Gro at turn 1 which no doubt caused his actions. I need another look at that, it felt like that Grosjean turned into Hulk more than Hulk causing that one.
I liked KMag at Renault last year but that was just a big naw, on a Renault Driver or not.
Tomorrow should be interesting through as it is Kubica vs the RS17.
Jolyon Palmer currently stabbing a billion voodoo dolls
Haha! Had not seen that confrontation yet, reminded me of Hamilton vs Massa at Singapore 2011 (I think?) - "Don't touch me".
The turn 1 defence was very Max but that particular rule was outlawed & he made the swerve early enough so that was fair game but yeah the next hairpin he left him no room at all, can understand the sarcastic reaction.
A lot of people on Motorsport.com we're saying the same thing! It was Massa/Hamilton
Today is 5% work, 95% compulsively checking twitter and the live SkySports blog for testing updates on Kubica. I'm praying it goes well for him. There's nothing I'd rather see than Kubica replacing Palmer tbh. He's just done a 9 lap run posting a 1:22.130 as his quickest time. 12 laps in total!
Kubica almost at 110 laps. Currently confusing Motorsport.com by doing an outlap, flying lap, in lap, hitting his marks in the pit box and repeating. This really feels like Renault are working on race craft to me of both a quali session and pit stops - after all don't need the mechanics for the driver to practise the pit stop bits.
It was fantastic to see Kubica back in a F1 car again. Never thought I would see that happen again.
Should we have a death pool on Palmers career?
When Perez, Alonso and even Sainz are being touted for Palmers seat, along with Sirotkin, Rowland and Latifi from Renaults junior team. I doubt Renault actually consider Kubica a serious option for Palmer, and it's more to do with promotion.
Kubica has comprehensively thrashed all three juniors times in testing, none of them are viable options. Alonso won't move because Renault can't give him a winning car and they're being very blunt about that fact now. Alonso will stay put. I can only see Perez moving for a Ferrari seat (as has been rumoured before) and Ocon is a more likely target for a second FI raid given he's French. Red Bull have doubled down on the Sainz is contracted talk recently so that's unlikely too, but that could happen as part of a divorce between Toro Rosso and Renault to allow TR to take Honda engines.
Realisticly Kubica is a fast choice, a proven GP winner and is supposedly outstanding at giving engineers feedback and car development. Given where Renault is right now a fast pacey driver who will develop the f*** out of their car is probably exactly what they need. PR benefit is added bonus
An all right race but Hamilton won.
What was that with Perez + Ocon. Perez at blame there. Won't be surprised if one moved teams.
I need to see the incident again but was it really Perez's fault? Looked like he was just taking the natural line rather than pushing Ocon into the wall then Ocon was the one who barged past aggressively at Eau Rouge. I was sat in a foreign bar so will need to rewatch it on Sky Sports F1 HD
I was out so missed it. Need to catch up with it at some point
Record-breaker and just casually over a second quicker than everyone else
Great effort from Stroll, front row for him. It's a shame everything is blighted by all these penalties but at least it means we'll have some overtaking tomorrow with the RBRs carving their way through the field.
Wet sessions are always the best! Nuisance Hamilton ruining a Stroll/Ocon front row!
I'll be intrigued to see how long Stroll and Ocon hold up the Ferraris (and potentially Red Bulls) tomorrow, the Force India in particular always tops the speed traps.
That was a great wet session there although glad to see Grosjean was all right. Great laps from Ocon and Stroll.
Rumours of Sainz driving for Renault for next year looking quite likely now.
There is a rumour Kubica might go to Williams as it be his only real option but I wouldn't be surprised in Mercedes block that and try to get Wehrlein a Williams seat as he is on his way out of Sauber.
Williams have put their 2018 driver talks on hold for the 2017 midfield battle. They are so waiting to see what Renault does first. It is so obvious they may as well have just openly said it.
It looks like Singapore is about to be the start of a set of dominos that will trigger the end of Silly Season.
- Torro Rosso is terminating it's Renault contract in favour of a Honda supply deal.
- In order to terminate said deal, Torro Rosso are releasing Sainz to Renault F1.
- McLaren are terminating their Honda deal.
- McLaren are taking out a supply deal with Renault*
- Alonso stays at McLaren-Renault.
- Renault are heavily considering terminating Palmer immediately after the Singapore Grand Prix.
- To really keep Renault sweet, Torro Rosso will release Sainz to Renault effective from Malaysia should Renault sack Palmer.
- Torro Rosso will call up Gasly as Sainz's replacement.
*This looks like it's until the end of the 2020 season. McLaren are currently considering developing their own engine for 2021 onwards if the costs can be controlled.
Confirmed as expected that Bottas will stay at Mercedes for next year.
Rumour mill in overdrive. Latest is that Renault have told Red Bull to get f***ed and to find a new engine supplier after the 2018 season.
Don't blame Renault. They're being forced out of a multi-year Torro Rosso deal that's a barely concealed forerunner to getting the senior team to be the Honda works team when the engines are ready. Why wouldn't they want to jack it in and get rid of someone who never praises when they win 4 world championships but throw them under the bus at all other times
Yup! All confirmed with a 1 year release for Sainz and 3 years for both engine deals
I think Palmer's safe till the end of the season, he seems to be in the running for Williams' second seat next year (as well as Kubica and di Resta). Failing that he could possibly move to Sauber (I don't think they've confirmed either Wehrlein or Ericsson for next year yet - I wouldn't be surprised if Ericsson was culled, though I'd imagine he brings in a fair wedge). I really do hope he can get a deal for next year, as I do like the chap and want to see more from him!
Hopefully tomorrow will be a cracking race.
Expect a safety car for sure in Singapore as there has been at one every year since 2008.
Dear lord that was a LONG race.
Apparently it is the first time ever that both Ferraris have gone out on the first lap in F1 history.
Well that start was literally the dream Lewis had the night before!
Have to say, can't really pin the blame on anyone really. Vettel moved over at the start but that is the natural thing to do for the pole-sitter, he just had a crap start & obviously wasn't expecting Kimi to have a blinder! The real losers out of all of this are Ferrari, not just for the result but for having the audacity to fully blame Verstappen over Twitter - quite rightly they were torn to shreds, just typical Ferrari behaviour really.
Kind of a shame in a way as that made the result pretty much certain from the start but a Lewis & Danny top 2, can't complain at that myself
Still some decent battles in midfield, Magnussen getting very punchy was a highlight. Fantastic for Sainz in 4th!
Most exciting race for a long time... for the first 100 metres. After that it was typically dull
I agree there was some decent stuff from further back and it's always nice to see that but let's be honest. We NEED to see the front runners actually racing each other occasionally. F1 may be the pinnacle of motor-racing technologically speaking, and it does have most of the worlds best drivers but in terms of circuit variety and racing excitement it's way behind Indycar at the moment
What Tilke did to Hockenheim was unforgivable. That long straight.
We want to see at least the Top4 teams battling for the win e.g. 2003.
As expected, Sergio Perez has confirmed that he'll stay at Force India for next year.
So lineup for next year so far...
Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Valtteri Bottas
Ferrari
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Red Bull
Daniel Ricciardo
Max Verstappen
Force India
Sergio Pérez
Esteban Ocon
Williams
Lance Stroll
Felipe Massa / Paul di Resta / Marcus Ericsson / Robert Kubica / Jolyon Palmer
Toro Rosso
Daniil Kvyat / Pierre Gasly
Renault
Nico Hülkenberg
Carlos Sainz
Haas
Romain Grosjean
Kevin Magnussen
McLaren
Fernando Alonso
Stoffel Vandoorne
Sauber
Marcus Ericsson / Antonio Giovinazzi / Charles Leclerc
I'm hopeful that Palmer will be dispatched early to collect his long overdue P45.
Rumour was Renault didn't want him for 2016 but his contract was watertight so they stuck with him. Then the car was such a dog no one wanted the seat and he had improved in the second half of the season. However this year he's been deadweight. If he hadn't scored points on a weekend when 3 of the top 6 and Hulk (so 4 of the top 7 cars) didn't finish he'd deserved to have been fired over the radio at the checkered flag. 13 cars finished. Until hulk had a reliability issue he was on the podium. A podium paced car came 6th so let's not pretend he's suddenly even worth of a sauber drive.
Reports that is between Massa, Di Rests and Kubica for the Williams seat.
If I were Toro Rosso, I would drop Kvyat at the end of the season.
Di Resta did a solid job at Hungary. I never felt that he deserved to lose a drive so it would be good to see him back
Kvyat dropped for Malaysia and Japan in favour of a trial run for Gasly. Kvyat will return for Austin as it clashes with the last round of Super GP or whatever it is Gasly drives in currently. They are trailing him for 2018
Can't see Kvyat staying next year. Not surprised really to hear that he is being replaced. He's never shown any of his 'potential' since he got dropped last year.
If Toro Rosso have any sense, they'll bin Kvyat for next season. Although really will it matter who they have in the car given they've opted for Honda engines?
Kvyat's deadwood. If he's not slow, he's crashing. He had his chance with in a Red Bull and just wasn't good enough.
Regarding the Williams sitch, I know the rumours are that they're deciding between Massa, di Resta and Kubica, but I honestly do believe that they're waiting to see how Jo performs in the next few races following on from his decent performance in Singapore. Yes, only 12 cars finished - but it was in quite challenging conditions (if the first corner incident wasn't enough to prove that, then Kvyat and Ericsson walling their cars surely does?). I seriously do think he's still in the running, plus his dad's chopper was spotted at Williams' HQ a week or so ago which leads me to believe discussions are being made.
Id rather have Kvyat than 50,000,000 Palmers. He only got a drive in the first place because Renault weren’t quick enough to do the deal before his daddy’s cheque bought Lotus another 3 weeks of operations at the end of 2015. Renault didn’t want either driver they inherited and for good reason
I'm sorry (well not really ha), but if they really didn't want Jo in 2015, Renault would not have re-signed him at the end of 2016 in a billion years. He was the GP2 champion in 2014 and really improved towards the end of last season. If they didn't want him, they'd have taken on another Maldonado or something. He has shown this year that he's been quite capable of reaching Q3 and has done well in the races, but has also been hit by poor reliability more often than Hulk. Yes, he's not as quick as Hülkenberg, but he's also a lot less experienced in F1. I actually believe he's getting there and I think (whether this is me being deluded or not, I don't know) Williams haven't made a decision yet, purely because they want to see how he reacts to the Singapore result.
On Formula One's official YouTube channel, the 2001 Malaysian Grand Prix is available to watch with commentary from Murray Walker and Martin Brundle. I hope Liberty Media do more full races available on YouTube.
Sirotkin was faster in FP1 yesterday than Palmer
Gasly was P9 so a good start from him!
A revised calendar for 2018:
2018 F1 calendar
March 25 Melbourne, Australia
April 8 Sakhir, Bahrain
April 15 Shanghai, China
April 29 Baku, Azerbaijan
May 13 Barcelona, Spain
May 27 Monaco
June 10 Montreal, Canada
June 24 Paul Ricard, France
July 1 Red Bull Ring, Austria
July 8 Silverstone, Great Britain
July 22 Hockenheim, Germany
July 29 Hungaroring, Hungary
August 26 Spa, Belgium
September 2 Monza, Italy
September 16 Singapore
September 30 Sochi, Russia
October 7 Suzuka, Japan
October 21 Austin, USA
October 28 Mexico City, Mexico
November 11 Interlagos, Brazil
November 25 Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi
That sees China and Bahrain swap places.
i'm stoked for gasley bein given a test run for rosso and P9 is a great result to kick off with. rly hoping for a kubica return tho tbh tho it's not lookin likely 🙁
He did very well in practice today, did Pierre Gasley. Still not sure whether he's only in the seat for 2 races or taken over Kvyat's seat for the rest of the season.
I would again love to see Kubica back on the grid next year it depends how he does on his test drive with Williams.
A possibility that rain will play a part during this weekend. If it doesn't just rain in Malaysia does it? It chucks down with rain.
Will anyone miss Malaysia on the calendar?
I like Sepang as a track! Great mix of high speed and technical sections.
Yeah Sepang is most certainly Tilks'e best ever work^ sad to see this one go!
Very happy for Max winning today, especially after the misfortune he's had previously this season - and this one fully on merit! Not a vintage Malaysian GP but an interesting watch. The highlight was most definitely after the race with Vettel & Stroll
This title race is by no means over, Merc looked well off the pace today. Sets it up very well for Suzuka!
Was very pleased that Verstappen won after all the bad luck he has had this season. An average race really.
Weird incident between Stroll & Vettel. Don't think I've ever seen someone hit each other on the slowing down lap.
^ loved vettel getting a lift at the end ☺️
waking up at 6am hungover to watch live was definitely worth it with max winning. without a doubt my fav current driver and 2 red bulls on podium was the icing on the cake. vettel coming 20th to 4th was nice to see too.
really hoping for gasly 2018 torro rosso
I think Gasly did a solid job this weekend! Should be a lock for 2018 I'd hope. Especially as the RBR Jnr Drivers programme is a little sparse of other talent at the moment.
Di Resta and Kubica are to test the 2014 Williams this month as part of the battle for that seat. Massa also in the frame and Weherlin is apparently 4th in the order. Distant 4th but still on their radar. No news on Palmer which I assume means they've rightly discounted him.
i'm looking forward to leclarc's imminent f1 debut.... 🤞
not sure who id want in out of di resta and kubica... kibica would be such a good comeback story however
rosberg to commentate in japan 😍
tho a 5am start 😵 think it'll be catch up for me this time
Rumours that they'll be an Danish Grand Prix in 2020 possibly.
An great coup for Sky Sports F1 in getting Nico Rosberg to commentate on the Japanese Grand Prix.
Palmer set to be dropped after the Japanese Grand Prix with Sainz Jr taking over his drive and Kvyat is back in the wheel for Toro Rosso with Gasly for USA.
Love a bit of F1 musical chairs me!
DING DONG PALMERS GONE!!!!!!!!!
18 months later than when he should have gone tbh but I’m so glad he’s finally gone. Never deserved a factory drive but tbf it’s not as if the 2016 car was up to anything
cencecutive red bull top 3 y e sss
vettel is having no luck ugh
Looks pretty much all over now, come on title #4
I did really want this one to go all the to wire though, a shame we've been robbed of potentially a great climax to the season but I guess that's just the unpredictable nature of F1. Last year Lewis had zero luck this year he's benefitted from Seb's misfortune, comes & goes! (unless you're Mark Webber).
Hoping the Red Bulls can keep us this strong run of form & pinch a couple more wins before the season is up!
And hoping that Red Bull can keep this form next year. Shame to see it not going to the wire though.
Gasly is set to miss the US Grand Prix to complete the finale of Super Formula. No news yet on who will replace him.
Palmer?
New Zealander Brendan Hartley will be Gasly's replacement for the US Grand Prix.
Renault have put Hulk, Hartley and Max onto a new Engine (as they are at the end of their life). The new Engine though has a hybrid 2017/18 ICE fitted to it. Renault are testing some of the 2018 upgrades in the 2017 PU package to get some testing milage on them. Smart! will be interesting to see the bump it makes.
A shit decision as described by Mark Webber on Verstappen's penalty for 'gaining an advantage' on the final lap when passing Kimi.
Shit is putting it rather politely. Shameful. It was a fantastic move and there’s been plenty of the same from Bottas today going unpunished so precious mercy can get their constructors title.
Is just a coincidence that the FIA website is unavailable following Verstappen's demotion? Noticed Jos describing the decision as bollocks on tweets and the FIA being known as the Ferrari Intervention Association.
Strictly speaking Verstappen did break the rules but then again the rules are crap.
On the plus side it was actually a really good race. We should celebrate that for they are rare
Bottas did twice leave track limits and gained an advantage while fighting the red bulls. So the stewards are pricks for sure.
It was a good race. Plenty of overtakes and nice to see Sainz settle in so quickly!!! The shit before the race and the penalty at the end was utterly embarrassing tho
As mentioned in the post race commentary, if the FIA want to run these races on these too mistake-forgiving circuits with huge run off areas and meters of tarmac between the track and grass, these sorts of things are going to happen and happened multiple times during this race. I really don’t like the way these circuits are heading, even classic tracks like Suzuka are being ruined with run off areas in favour of more punishing gravel traps.
Your sig finished that post off perfectly!!!
I completely agree. The tarmac run off areas are a shambles. Rip em up. Give us gravel back!!
It will be Hartley and Gasly for Toro Rosso in Mexico it appears that finally Kvyat has been dropped for good.
Torro Rosso haven’t confirmed the final 2 races yet so we shall see. But I agree it’s not looking promising for Kyvat.
Williams want their 2018 driver situation sorted before Brazil so they can give Massa a send off
Get in there, 4 times a champ! Nice try there Sebby
At least it made for an entertaining race, definitely a welcome return to the calendar these past few years for Mexico.
I'm also beginning to wonder if Danny & Max swapped cars for the final 5 or 6 races. How the pendulum has swung!
Great win from Max. Shame to see it take another undeserved WC for the combination of Merc and the arrogant one but until a manufacturer can finally pull out an engine mode that's better than the Merc Q3 mode F1 will continue to be a charade.
Pretty much the worst possible weekend for Renault after they announce they are pulling out of Formula E to focus on F1. Ya know, the one series we actually win.
Indeed a great professional win from Verstappen. Drove an fantastic race from start to finish.
Excellent drive from Max, with all the Renaults dropping left right and centre he must’ve been shitting bricks.
Rumour has it Sauber will be running Charles Leclerc and Marcus Ericsson next year. Ericsson isn’t a foregone conclusion though as Sauber say his financial backing isn’t a priority and they need the best fit for the long-term. Ferrari are also still trying to convince them to take on Giovinazzi, and they are trying to convince Haas give him a drive too (despite Haas already confirming they are running the same line-up next year, and I believe both are in contract... who knows). Toro Rosso look likely to run Pierre Gasly & Brendon Hartley (they seem happy with the results both have been getting) so the only seat that remains pretty much a complete open book is Williams’ second seat...
Massa retires from F1, again.
GP3 champion George Russell will be driving for Force India in the first Friday practice sessions at Brazil & Abu Dhabi.
Between then Kubica, Di Resta or rumours of Kvyat and Wehrlein being talked.
I can’t see Wehrlein or Kvyat getting the drive. As much as Mercedes want Pascal in the seat, Martini require one of the drivers to be at least 25 so that pretty much rules either of them out. Wehrlein has hardly been outshining Ericsson and Kvyat is too much of a risky move for them to piss off Martini...
Enjoyable race for what it was worth today with Hammo & Danny Ric scything their way through the field.
Gasly and Hartley have now been confirmed as Toro Rosso’s 2018 lineup. Just the two Sauber seats and the remaining Williams one left to be confirmed!
Not sure that Hartley is an upgrade on Kyvat tbh
Red Bull have made it clear that Kvyat has reached a dead-end. The goal for Toro Rosso is basically to test out drivers with a view to moving them up to the main team. Kvyat has hardly set the track alight since being stepped down, and has rightly been given the boot.
Whether Hartley is an improvement on Kvyat or not, only time will tell. Considering he hasn’t raced single seaters in a few years, he’s been incredibly quick (similarly paced to Gasly, who has recently competed in Japanese Super Formula & GP2). I have no doubt he’ll work hard over winter to improve and become more worthy of the drive.
I'll give Hartley half a season if he doesn't score any points or impress.
Sauber looking set to reveal their 2018 driver line up during the weekend at Abu Dhabi.
and the wait for march begins 🙁
wtf @ the new logo too.. the previous one is so clever and iconic it didn’t need to change
The new logo is truly hideous.
Alfa Romeo is returning to the grid as the title sponsor and technical partner of Sauber!!!
The wait until testing starts again at the end of feb is too long
The new logo is pretty shit to be honest, don't like it at all.
Eriksson stays for 2018
Very surprised that Ericsson is staying for next year. Money talks?, no points this year with Wehrlein not even having a drive for 2018.
Lederec has joined Alfa Romeo Sauber as well.
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