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Posted by: liamk97 10th June 2017, 12:35 PM

Justin Bieber is back with another track, this time as a feature on David Guetta's '2U' - can he replace himself from #1 yet again? Other new singles include Sigala & Ella Eyre's 'Came Here for Love', Annie LeBlanc & Hayden Summerall's 'Little Do You Know', Miley Cyrus' 'Inspired' and Alma's 'Chasing Heights', whilst Ariana's charity live rendition of 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow', released midweek last week, will be hoping to make an impact on the chart.

A big week for albums as London Grammar and Katy Perry go head to head with their respective albums. Other new releases include albums from Fleetwood Mac members' Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie, Lady Antebellum, Glen Campbell and Rise Against.

Breakdown of the week
- Saturday and Sunday: Information on Twitter from MintRoyale only. Please do not make requests, we do not have any information other than what's posted.
- Monday: OCC Top 100 + Radio 1 Chart Update 5:30pm to 5:45pm.
- Tuesday: Top 40 update as and when we receive them with requests, this is NOT 100% guaranteed however. The OCC may publish sales flashes of their own accord but likewise, this is not guaranteed. adinTwitter and social media is your friend for today. Please post any information you find with a source. Do not nag for updates, we will post a top 40 update if we receive one.
- Wednesday: Top 40 update from Music Week from 5:45, and potential top 5 sales but this is not guaranteed.
- Thursday: See Tuesday.

Other notes (please read)
- You may make requests Tuesday to Thursday but outside the top 40, specific positions will not be revealed (unless deemed necessary by a mod).
- Please do not demand a midweek update, one will be posted as and when we receive the information. Patience is a virtue.
- Sales information will be given out as deemed necessary by a moderator, please bear this in mind when making requests. Most requests for sales will be ignored.
- To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action, please refer to the iTunes and Spotify threads.

Posted by: liamk97 10th June 2017, 12:36 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber - Despacito (38.2k)
2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time (23.5k)
3 David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber - 2U (17.4k) *
4 Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down (14.6k)
5 French Montana feat. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (14.6k)

6-10

11-20
13 Miley Cyrus - Malibu
16 Little Mix - Power

21-30
22 Ariana Grande - Somewhere Over the Rainbow *
24 Sigala feat. Ella Eyre - Came Here For Love *
26 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill

31-40
35 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
37 ALMA - Chasing Highs *
39 DJ Khaled feat. Drake - To the Max *
40 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 London Grammar - Truth is a Beautiful Thing (31.2k) *
2 Glen Campbell - Adios (13.2k) *
3 Ed Sheeran - Divide (12.0k)
4 Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie (11.8k) *
5 Katy Perry - Witness (10.4k) *

6-10
8 Lady Antebellum - Heart Break *
10 Chuck Berry - Chuck *

11-20
13 Little Mix - Glory Days
15 Anathema - The Optimist *
18 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend
19 Cigarettes After Sex - Cigarettes After Sex *

21-30
23 Rise Against - Wolves *
24 The Anarchy Arias - The Anarchy Arias *
30 Rancid - Trouble Maker *

31-40
35 Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits *

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: liamk97 10th June 2017, 12:36 PM

Tuesday Top 40 Update
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber - Despacito (50.5k)
2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time (29.8k)
3 David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber - 2U (21.8k) *
4 Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down (19.8k)
5 French Montana feat. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (19.8k)

6-10

11-20
13 Miley Cyrus - Malibu
16 Little Mix - Power

21-30
25 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill
26 Sigala feat. Ella Eyre - Came Here For Love *
28 Ariana Grande - Somewhere Over the Rainbow *

31-40
35 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
39 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human *
40 ALMA - Chasing Highs *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 London Grammar - Truth is a Beautiful Thing (33.6k) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Divide (15.3k)
3 Glen Campbell - Adios (13.3k) *
4 Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie (13.0k) *
5 Katy Perry - Witness (12.2k) *

6-10
8 Lady Antebellum - Heart Break *
9 Chuck Berry - Chuck *

11-20
12 Little Mix - Glory Days
15 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend


21-30
21 Anathema - The Optimist *
22 Cigarettes After Sex - Cigarettes After Sex *
24 Rise Against - Wolves *
28 The Anarchy Arias - The Anarchy Arias *

31-40
35 Rancid - Trouble Maker *
34 Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits *

Posted by: liamk97 10th June 2017, 12:36 PM

Wednesday Top 40 ONLY Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber - Despacito (60,896)
2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time (35,369)
3 David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber - 2U (25,673) *
4 French Montana feat. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (24,359)
5 Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down (24,252)

6-10

11-20
13 Miley Cyrus - Malibu
14 Little Mix feat. Stormzy - Power

21-30
22 Camila Cabello - Crying in the Club
25 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill
26 Sigala feat. Ella Eyre - Came Here For Love *

31-40
34 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
36 Ariana Grande - Somewhere Over the Rainbow *
39 Major Lazer feat. Travis Scott, Camila Cabello & Quavo - Know No Better *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 London Grammar - Truth is a Beautiful Thing *
2 Ed Sheeran - ÷ (19,074)
3 Glen Campbell - Adios (17,546) *
4 Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie (15,450) *
5 Katy Perry - Witness (13,551) *

6-10
[6 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (13,469)]
8 Chuck Berry - Chuck *
10 Lady Antebellum - Heart Break *

11-20
13 Little Mix - Glory Days
16 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend
18 Ed Sheeran - x

21-30
21 Cigarettes After Sex - Cigarettes After Sex *
23 Anathema - The Optimist *
28 Rise Against - Wolves *

31-40
33 The Anarchy Arias - The Anarchy Arias *
34 Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits ^
36 Taylor Swift - 1989 ^

Posted by: liamk97 10th June 2017, 12:37 PM

From Mint Royale:

Posted by: Willy's Tears 10th June 2017, 12:51 PM

Lol.

Expect it to fall further.

The more people hear the bland tuneless mess and the more teviews the more it falls.

Posted by: George.keh 10th June 2017, 12:53 PM

Witness definitely isn't her best but Roulette sounds like a smash hit in the future

Posted by: liamk97 10th June 2017, 12:55 PM

My guess is that Glen Campbell and Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie are in the Top 3 at this stage.

Posted by: Mart!n 10th June 2017, 12:55 PM

I expected London Grammar to be #1, but I think Ed Sheeran will be #1 by the end of the week.

Still yet to hear the new album from London Grammar

Posted by: Mart!n 10th June 2017, 12:56 PM

Please stop trolling, I think everyone has heard your views on the new Katy Perry material.

Posted by: Dobbo 10th June 2017, 01:03 PM

Guetta will be absolutely nowhere near #1 (in terms of sales), Despacito is still galaxies ahead and will probably remain that way for the entire summer. Top 5 for 2U with an increase in peak in later weeks when its streaming has built up.

Sigella I would say top 30 is possible.

Posted by: timjimlee 10th June 2017, 01:10 PM

Clear number 1 Album for London Grammar this week, 'Truth Is A Beautiful Thing' !

Posted by: danG 10th June 2017, 01:14 PM

Having heard the David Guetta track I can't see it going to #1, it'll be this year's Let Me Love You equivalent.

Despacito will be #1 all summer long.

Posted by: SKOB 10th June 2017, 01:22 PM

Poor Katy, although I knew that it wouldn't have a chance against LG

Posted by: Robbie 10th June 2017, 02:39 PM

Katy Perry has had a good run of hits stretching back over 9 years so it was to be expected that at some point the hits would become smaller and her sales would decline. To be honest, one top 10 hit single apart, she has struggled for the past 4 years. As Echo & The Bunnymen once sang "nothing (ever) lasts forever".

Posted by: slowdown73 10th June 2017, 02:47 PM

Yes lots of artists naturally decline after a while due to changes in the market but Katy is a victim due the fact her latest material just isn't as strong. Chained to the rhythm was decent but is probably the strongest most commercial friendly cut on the album but there is very little else which is likely to strike her a substantial sized hit this time around.

Posted by: timjimlee 10th June 2017, 04:05 PM

Re Mint Royale's comment that "The Katy Perry album is at 4, selling less than 1/3rd of London Grammar at number 1" what ballpark figures do people think that puts their respective Sales on, KP on 8K and LG on 24K ?
Surely not less than 8K for KP?

Posted by: Rob Spears 10th June 2017, 04:18 PM

Maybe 16k for LG and 5k for KP?

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th June 2017, 04:20 PM

I said earlier that KP prob sold 5k but it would surprise me that LG have sold 15k on day 1. I expected LG to open with 10k first day but surely KP couldnt have sold just 3.3k.

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th June 2017, 04:22 PM

Also, I asked this in the Lorde thread just now but I thought I'd post it here too as it's likely to gather more predictions here.

Predix for Melodrama next week? I'm going with 20k, just slightly higher than her debut albums opening sales.

Posted by: John-James 10th June 2017, 05:13 PM

My prediction is around 15k, doesn't seem much hype around it which is a shame because all the tracks so far are A+

Posted by: timjimlee 10th June 2017, 05:37 PM

I expected a lot more from LG than 10k, debut Album opened with 33k (week sales) and sold well after. Anyway 25k for the week should be enough and it's still top of iTunes although worryingly it is down to 5 on Amazon best sellers.

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th June 2017, 05:49 PM

I think there's a lot of hype but that may just be me. 15k would still be great

Posted by: Mack 10th June 2017, 10:37 PM

1-2-3 for Bieber I reckon as the featured artist.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 10th June 2017, 10:40 PM

That's really bad for Katy, I think this era will be the one to finish her as a viable commercial hit-maker.

Posted by: Jonjo 10th June 2017, 11:13 PM

Didn't people say that about Kylie, Madonna, Rihanna, Britney, P!nk, Lady Gaga at some points in their careers?

Things have been just fine for them...

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th June 2017, 11:15 PM

But half of those you stated can't get hits anymore.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th June 2017, 11:17 PM

I think the point is that they've recovered from flops in the past. Kylie and Madonna in particular have had their floppier eras and managed to storm back with smash hits, so it's not the end of Katy's singles chart success yet!

Posted by: Jonjo 10th June 2017, 11:19 PM

Maybe not anymore, but after their eras in which these sorts of comments were made, they came back with eras that were a lot stronger and more commercially appealing, some were even considered "career bests" for them.

Posted by: dennispennis123 11th June 2017, 01:38 AM

Not too surprised Katy is flopping in terms of her previous standards. Her singles so far have been well below her previous standard.

I've always thought her fanbase is pretty weak for an artist of her reputation. I just dont see her having that many committed fans who will keep buying her records when the quality dips.

Posted by: Bjork 11th June 2017, 06:26 AM

Madonna didnt have any flop era unti mdna and
She actually never recovered from that

Posted by: Dexton 11th June 2017, 06:46 AM

When was Pinks "flop era" ???

Posted by: SKOB 11th June 2017, 07:03 AM

You can always argue about this but I think if an album goes platinum or even gold in today's sales climate when 6k/week is enough for top ten none of those acts have ever flopped.

We can of course pretend that everyone should be as successful as Madonna with tens and tens of top ten hits for 30 years but that's not gonna happen to anyone else except Madonna herself (maybe Rihanna but she's not even halfway there)

If we are discussing flops we should discuss Nelly Furtado, Paula Abdul, some of J. Lo's albums (Brave and AKA), maybe Christina Aguilera's Lotus

Posted by: T Boy in Weeyals 11th June 2017, 07:13 AM

I think Try This is considered the flop era but really it did really well by today's standards.

Posted by: Gezza 11th June 2017, 07:29 AM

1992-1996 and the "American LIfe" were certainly at the time considered to be flops. Of course the top 10 singles still came but she wasn't selling anything like what she sold 1984-1991 or 1998-2002.

Posted by: 777666jason 11th June 2017, 07:41 AM

Ouch not looking good for Katy

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 11th June 2017, 10:04 AM

The thing is though, when they experienced this it was a lot easier to come back from it. We live in an age now where radio stations will essentially blacklist you (if you're a pop act of this calibre) for flopping.

Posted by: cqmerqn 11th June 2017, 10:16 AM

This sounds absolutely awful but I think Katy shaving her head ruined it all. CTTR was a big hit here in the UK but she had long hair then. Seems as though people are thinking there's stigma in liking Katy now as she has 'gone crazy', to quote what many people have said.

This may be the most ridiculous post you have seen but I think it's true. People think Katy has gone crazy since CTTR so they just don't want to listen to her atm. I for one love Katy's new style and I struggle to understand why people would change their opinion of her just for changing her hairstyle.

Thoughts on this?

Posted by: Dobbo 11th June 2017, 10:20 AM

Interesting post actually but Britney & Jessie J had big hits after such including #1 singles (ok Jessie J did it for charity iirc so that's fair enough) - I just think Bon Appetit & Swish Swish are really not that commercial or accessible singles to the majority of the public.

We all know all it takes is a feature on a massive single to completely turn things around so you can never write anyone off...

Posted by: mdh 11th June 2017, 10:24 AM

I definitely see where you're coming from! It could be misinterpreted by other people but you've definitely got the right idea.

I think for years the public were used to Katy releasing pure pop only and having an accessible pop girl look - so her shaving her head and making changes to her image (which had been the same from 2009-16 previously) and her music was probably what made the public less invested in her as an artist. We all know how fickle the GP is right now, so because Katy is taking a musical risk and switching up her style, they're a LOT less invested in her as an artist.

I'd go as far to say that the only real reason Swish Swish is becoming a hit is because it's got that familiar house sound that's popular at the moment (Disciples, Jax Jones, John Gibbons etc.) - where as Bon Appétit was something totally different for her (it was still Katy by numbers but definitely had less of the poppy sound she usually brings into her 'novelty tracks', so it flopped as the public weren't willing to give her changed persona the time of day.

By the way, I also love this Witness era, but I really get where you're coming from.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 11th June 2017, 10:35 AM

I actually think that is completely ridiculous (as per).

Posted by: John-James 11th June 2017, 11:14 AM

I just don't think people like her new music as much. I've seen a few posts on Facebook with people complaining about 'new' Katy and wondering what happened to the 'old' Katy.

This video for example got shared onto my timeline and has got +10,000 views: https://www.facebook.com/ItsWhatSheDeserves/videos/vb.569802076513790/748908358603160/?type=2&theater

Posted by: Scene 11th June 2017, 11:21 AM

I think it's a consequence of many things:

(a) losing her trademark long black hair.

(b) becoming overly political (for a pop star)

© shift in sound

(d) making "insensitive" jokes

(e) public being sheep

(f) Taylor

I found CTTR by-numbers but have grown to like it. Bon Appetit gets too much hate and Swish Swish is probably my favourite song of 2017 so far. This era is already better than PRISM imo so it is sad to see it underperforming.

Posted by: GTH 11th June 2017, 11:50 AM

I just don't think the material Katy has put out this era is as strong as her prior eras. Even then, the singles are so far removed from each other, it is confusing for consumers in figuring out what you will get from the album. It is not a cohesive collection of tracks. I don't think Bon Appetit was the right choice for the second single, they should have gone with something closer in style to Chained To The Rhythm.

Katy is a big name still and I doubt this will be the career ending campaign many are calling out on here. It has definitely caused damage but nothing a solid follow up couldn't heal.

Posted by: dennispennis123 11th June 2017, 01:53 PM

At the end of the day, if Katy had released another Roar it would have been a huge hit.

If after Chained To The Rhythm. she had a released another Dark Horse instead of Bon Appetit it would have been a huge hit.

The tracks she has released just have not been good enough.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 11th June 2017, 02:47 PM

'Bon Appétit' is going to go down in years to come as a key example of a career killing single.

Plus also there hasn't really been a classic HUGE Katy chorus this era which you can usually rely on her for.

Posted by: Scene 11th June 2017, 03:13 PM

Good point. I have to admit I do miss her stuff with Dr Luke. Teenage Dream was a perfect pop era.

Posted by: DiamondHeart 11th June 2017, 04:20 PM

I remember Katy fans overjoyed when Joanne, a pop-country album, reached no.3 on the Albums chart instead of no.1 despite PI having no real impact here, hmm. I can't say Witness is a good album (Hey Hey Hey and CTTR are the only salvageable tracks) but I still reckon she'll make the top 10, top 5 if she's lucky. With Lorde and Lana releasing the next charting week, I can't imagine her staying another week in the top 10. Hope London Grammar cling on to number 01, so glad they're back!!

Posted by: John-James 11th June 2017, 04:32 PM

Lana's album is out July 21st

Posted by: 360Jupiter 11th June 2017, 06:59 PM

I agree in general; she changed too much all at once. There may be a gem of truth to the short hair thing; it's unfortunate that the last reference to a pop star cutting her hair off is Miley Cyrus who flipped a switch from wholesome to extreme and has recently flipped that switch back in the other direction, now disowning her short hair era.

I liked Chained to the Rhythm a lot, Bon Appetit almost as much, Swish Swish not in the slightest. Her uncool SNL performances going viral as short video clips haven't helped her though. Ultimately yes, Bon Appetit was a poor choice for single #2, and not helped by its video straddling the line between cheeky and a bit gross. Also the fact the album on the whole sounds next to nothing like any of its singles, so even people who'd been enjoying 'new Katy' don't get to hear more of her on it.

Posted by: Jonjo 11th June 2017, 07:00 PM

But people won't know this until they've heard the album, no?

Posted by: Jonathon1992 11th June 2017, 07:08 PM

Katy could be top 5

Posted by: Scene 11th June 2017, 08:42 PM

In all fairness to Katy, she looks set to get her third US #1 album, and with great sales.

Posted by: AngelaKD 11th June 2017, 09:11 PM

It's a replay of Gaga. Tepid sales in the UK, strong enough sales in the US to double the #2 album's sales.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 11th June 2017, 09:14 PM

Spotify though, and e.g. Amazon, itunes previews. Physical album sales are at an all-time low. How many people have a wee listen on Spotify or the previews before deciding to buy something, instead of just buying out of blind loyalty; especially at a time when young people have less disposable income? I'd hazard a fair chunk, given that the tech is available to do so nowadays. Buying without knowing what you're getting could easily be framed as a stupid idea nowadays.

Posted by: Dark Horse 11th June 2017, 09:41 PM

Great comment, i Agree with most of what u said even though I liked Swish Swish and i was shocked it wasn't a hit...to sum things up, i think the main reason behind Katy's new era's relative failure is that she stopped catering to young and teen female audiences and started targeting gay adult males, which is harmful in the short run but very helpful in the long run, just like Madonna's Erotica album... Katy Perry's managment knows that her days as a teen idol are almost over since she's now approaching her mid 30s,, and instead are promoting her as a gay icon, and her appearance with drag queens on Swish Swish's SNL performance just confirms that.... Bon Appetit and Swish Swish were panned by her teen audiences, but the gays loved these two songs.... the only problem with her new album though is thAt it doesn't sound like the 3 singles at all, which is a shame, and instead is an autotuned ballads collections and fails to excite her new target audience....

Posted by: Mart!n 11th June 2017, 10:04 PM

3 pages already and no mids

Posted by: 777666jason 11th June 2017, 10:27 PM

Personally I don't think she flopping apart from certain artists album sale have diminished significantly

Posted by: d22ghj 12th June 2017, 08:31 AM

Katy is doing fine this week in the US thanks to a tour bundle. Expect a big drop next week.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 12th June 2017, 08:36 AM

It seems like Rihanna Katy flopping is a big issue this week.

Posted by: Joe. 12th June 2017, 08:37 AM

Katy's Big Brother in LA is getting a lot of publicity, which is helping her album.

Posted by: Bjork 12th June 2017, 08:54 AM

Dont be fooled by the US figures
Its all cos of the tour tix-album bundle
Easily gives artists 100k sales
They wouldnt normally have

Posted by: omrimayo 12th June 2017, 09:11 AM

This, she's super flopping there also and WW.

Posted by: John-James 12th June 2017, 01:03 PM

Went into my local ASDA to buy Katy's album and they weren't even stocking it Has her popularity really declined THAT much?

Posted by: 777666jason 12th June 2017, 01:43 PM

Snubbed by Asda the shame poor Katy she not Tesco exclusive is she she not done a nadine

Posted by: BigMixer 12th June 2017, 02:04 PM

Yep.

Many people are already predicting she'll have one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) 2nd weeks drops of all time.

Posted by: liamk97 12th June 2017, 02:21 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber - Despacito (38.2k)
2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time (23.5k)
3 David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber - 2U (17.4k) *
4 Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down (14.6k)
5 French Montana feat. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (14.6k)

6-10

11-20
13 Miley Cyrus - Malibu
16 Little Mix - Power

21-30
22 Ariana Grande - Somewhere Over the Rainbow *
24 Sigala feat. Ella Eyre - Came Here For Love *
26 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill

31-40
35 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
37 ALMA - Chasing Highs *
39 DJ Khaled feat. Drake - To the Max *
40 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 London Grammar - Truth is a Beautiful Thing (31.2k) *
2 Glen Campbell - Adios (13.2k) *
3 Ed Sheeran - Divide (12.0k)
4 Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie (11.8k) *
5 Katy Perry - Witness (10.4k) *

6-10
8 Lady Antebellum - Heart Break *
10 Chuck Berry - Chuck *

11-20
13 Little Mix - Glory Days
15 Anathema - The Optimist *
18 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend
19 Cigarettes After Sex - Cigarettes After Sex *

21-30
23 Rise Against - Wolves *
24 The Anarchy Arias - The Anarchy Arias *
30 Rancid - Trouble Maker *

31-40
35 Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits *

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: liamk97 12th June 2017, 02:24 PM

Some big falls in the albums from last week's new entries: alt-J down 6-27, Halsey down 12-53 and All Time Low down 7-87.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th June 2017, 02:24 PM

Katy having her very own Christina Aguilera 'Bionic' era - the album is not half as bad as people are making out, not sure where 80% of her fan base seems to have evaporated to especially as she has already had 3 singles chart in the Top 40 from this album.

Posted by: Joe. 12th June 2017, 02:29 PM

YAY for Little Mix! Great climb.

Awful for Katy Perry. Does anyone know she has an album out?

Posted by: BigMixer 12th June 2017, 02:30 PM

Ouch at Katy. She'll probably end up at #8 or #9.

Power top 20!

Posted by: raphaelalm 12th June 2017, 02:31 PM

get weird back to top 100?

Posted by: Joe. 12th June 2017, 02:31 PM

It looks like she won't be lower than #7 from the data, wouldn't you agree Liam? (still terrible)

Posted by: liamk97 12th June 2017, 02:34 PM

Think there's still a chance she could stay Top 5 if Lindsey/Christine fall behind; definitely in the 5-7 region though. Seems odd to think she'll be selling only ~6k more than Britney's Glory did.

Posted by: shindymindy 12th June 2017, 02:36 PM

Could Glory Days get back into the top 10 once newbies start falling towards the end of the week?

Posted by: BridgeCow 12th June 2017, 02:37 PM

Yes at ALMA top 40!
Wonder if it can hold on come Friday?

Posted by: Mart!n 12th June 2017, 02:37 PM

Does Katy know she even has an album out in this country

Posted by: Dexton 12th June 2017, 02:44 PM

Liam Payne & French Montana both at 14.6k, looks like we're in for a close race to #4 this week

Posted by: Mart!n 12th June 2017, 02:51 PM

On a different note, I didn't expect Ariana Grande to hold on to #2

I think we are in for the Top 6 or Top 7 as non movers on Friday, David Guetta could be #7 or #8 by the end of the week

Posted by: Bjork 12th June 2017, 02:55 PM

Great sales x london grammar

Posted by: AngelaKD 12th June 2017, 02:58 PM

You can put this off as a marketing gimmick, however even with 100k fewer sales, Katy would get the #1 in the US.

Also, that doesn't explain an overall divergence in the album chart.

Look at the #1 BB200 albums working backwards from this coming week:

Katy Perry, Halsey, Bryson Tiller, Linkin Park, Harry Styles, Logic, Kendrick Lamar(2x), The Chainsmokers, Drake (3x), Ed Sheeran (2x), Future, Future

Posted by: danG 12th June 2017, 02:58 PM

I think Liam will be #4... with French Montana at #3 as he has the streaming advantage.

David Guetta looks likely to slip to at least #5, which is still a good showing but considering the track has Justin Bieber on it, it could've done better.

As for ALMA remaining top 40... I wouldn't count on it. Expect the likes of 'Human', 'Places' and 'The Cure' to overtake it by the end of the week.

And as we're getting the whole top 100 anyway later on here's a few ~highlights~ from the rest of the chart

43. Major Lazer feat. Travis Scott, Camila Cabello & Quavo - Know No Better
49. Olly Murs & Louisa Johnson - Unpredictable
51. Katy Perry feat. Nicki Minaj - Swish Swish
54. Katy Perry feat. Migos - Bon Appetit
63. Miley Cyrus - Inspired
86. Sigrid - Don't Kill My Vibe (re-entry)
89. Arcade Fire - Everything Now
90. London Grammar - Oh Woman Oh Man

Posted by: Brett-Butler 12th June 2017, 03:00 PM

30k for London Grammar is a pretty strong opening, especially given that it didn't have two big top 40 singles to precede it like its predecessor.

Posted by: iain 12th June 2017, 03:01 PM

How far has Dua Lipa's album fallen?

Posted by: Scene 12th June 2017, 03:01 PM

Yes Bionic is what springs to my mind. Katy's never really been an album artist though. Her debut never cracked the top 10 (and I think a lot of its sales came in 2010 off the back of TD) and Teenage Dream took ages to get over a million despite a phenomenally successful singles campaign.

Posted by: M4NG0 12th June 2017, 03:01 PM

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. There's no stopping that French Montana track at the moment, could even climb to No. 2 next week!

Posted by: danG 12th June 2017, 03:02 PM

#11.

Posted by: Joe. 12th June 2017, 03:09 PM

I obviously know this is a terrible result for Katy, but in her defense, she really isn't a fanbase act like 1D, Little Mix, Gaga or even Beyonce. She's the kind of act that the UK public react to hits/promo. If she'd released it off the back of Chained which was a big hit here or had come to the UK and done Graham Norton or BGT, I think she'd have been selling well. Her interest has evaporated a lot, no doubt but it really does feel slightly of a case of nobody knowing she's even released anything.

Posted by: SevenSeize 12th June 2017, 03:14 PM

amazing sales for London Grammar wasn't certain they'd match If You Wait's opening, turns out they'll pass it easily

Posted by: Neil 12th June 2017, 03:16 PM

Ow Katy :/ How does that compare to her peers' recent efforts?

Posted by: timjimlee 12th June 2017, 03:37 PM

Great Sales for London Grammar, really not surprised given how well the preceding Album sold!

Posted by: mdh 12th June 2017, 03:39 PM

He won't fall out of the top 6.

Looks like Ariana will fall out by the end of the week - so the only newies released on Friday we'll have will assumably be David Guetta at around 3-6, and Sigala between 30 and 40. Sigala will stay in for sure, he's been added to Hot Hits UK relatively high so his streaming will get a lot better from tomorrow.

Posted by: thecarterfilez 12th June 2017, 03:40 PM

wow ? how is Malibu only #13 ? it's been top 5 on itunes since friday ? this includes every days streaming too then ?

Posted by: Defaze 12th June 2017, 03:43 PM

Amazing to see ALMA top 40. Doubt she'll remain there, but hopefully she can sneak it at some point with R1 playlisting. Can her collab with Sub Focus take off too while we're at it?

Yas for 'Power' too, and double yas for NMSS climbing.

Posted by: dennispennis123 12th June 2017, 03:44 PM

Those are fantastic numbers for London Grammar.

Ouch for Katy.

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2017, 03:51 PM

Huge well done to London Grammar, they are solid sales, could 50k be possible by end of week?

Very disappointing opening for Katy Perry, from time to time i enjoy a single from Katy Perry, but have liked nothing from the new era at all. While her opening week looks disappointing, it will be more interesting to see how the album performs next week as the fans would be out in force this week to purchase it.

Posted by: timjimlee 12th June 2017, 03:57 PM

The run of British number 1's on the Album chart continues (only one non-British number 1 this year and that was a Soundtrack), wonder whether Lorde, Imagine Dragons, Haim, Lana or Arcade Fire can halt this run - personally hope all manage to make it!

Posted by: Bjork 12th June 2017, 04:10 PM

isn't Lorde against Royal Blood? think she has no chance (sadly)

Posted by: cqmerqn 12th June 2017, 04:11 PM

Lorde looks set for #2.

Posted by: smidsy101 12th June 2017, 04:37 PM

I'm the One has fallen 3-8 in todays update surprisingly, so looks like we'll only have one Bieber song in the top 5 maybe

Speaking of Lorde, I think she'll be lucky to get #2, I was thinking she'll probably debut with around 15/16k, most likely behind Royal Blood and Ed Sheeran, but I guess it depends how London Grammar hold up next week as well, she could be pushed down to #4

Posted by: John-James 12th June 2017, 04:54 PM

I think Imagine Dragons will be the ones to break this run of British #1 albums. Fingers crossed anyway.

Posted by: SKOB 12th June 2017, 05:16 PM

YAYYAYAYAYAAY ALMA!

The first Finnish act in top 50 since Ercola in 2009

Posted by: liamk97 12th June 2017, 05:16 PM

I'm unsure. The week they release will be when the Glastonbury effect will kick in and Ed Sheeran is headlining, so I think a return to #1 could be likely. Imagine Dragon's last album sold 26k in its first week and I think this one could debut a little lower or at least a similar amount. Given Ed is already selling in the mid-20ks, he could easily sell a lot more on top of that with the Glastonbury effect. Speaking of which, Radiohead are also headlining and release the anniversary edition of OK Computer that week - I can seem them too doing well, maybe not enough to be ahead of Imagine Dragons, but who knows?

Posted by: Jonjo 12th June 2017, 05:36 PM

The London Grammar album is horrific. Her voice is vile! I really don't understand the mass hype surrounding them.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 12th June 2017, 05:40 PM

I think she has a haunting and mesmerising voice.

Granted I don't actually even know a great deal about them though.

Posted by: smidsy101 12th June 2017, 05:42 PM

I think it's one of the best albums of the year it's received good reviews as well, but I can understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea

Posted by: 777666jason 12th June 2017, 05:43 PM

David guetta and Justin not instantly going top 2 what a flop for Justin

Yay little mix extending the run of top 20 official singles

Sad to see new miles will struggle to go top 100 but at least Malibu heading upwards

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th June 2017, 05:52 PM

let's not forget Despacito debuting at #70 and taking a couple more weeks to go top 10

Posted by: Brer 12th June 2017, 06:27 PM

Brilliant to see London Grammar on course for a comfortable #1 Probably to just be the latest band to have a slow burning high selling debut that doesn't get #1 then a faster selling #1 album with the follow-up that ends up with much lower overall sales though.

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2017, 06:58 PM

Steps still holding two albums in the top 60.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th June 2017, 09:16 PM

I agree but she seems to have fallen out of favour with the British public - she got next to no boost for her singles and albums after the Manchester concert despite her having a prime slot.

Posted by: Herbs 12th June 2017, 09:21 PM

Surely that drop in the album charts for All Time Low is a, err, all time low!

Steps albums have swapped

Posted by: 360Jupiter 12th June 2017, 09:21 PM

At the stellar heights of #5, #37 and #40 though!

Posted by: timjimlee 12th June 2017, 09:29 PM

Yes All Time Low's Album sitting at number 87 and looking like it may have chart run of 7-OUT.

There are several classic Artists with multiple Albums in Top 100, pleasing to see 2 Stone Roses and 2 Guns 'N' Roses as well as the regulars.

Posted by: dennispennis123 13th June 2017, 02:39 AM

I don't think people are saying the album is bad but if you release three very underwhelming singles to push the album then fewer people are going to rush out to buy the album to hear what else is on it.

And I think Katy is very reliant on big singles to push album sales, she doesn't have the type of fanbase who will rush out first week and buy her album regardless.

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th June 2017, 03:32 AM

Huge achievement tbh in the streaming era especially for an artist that has been slated for her new material.

Posted by: timjimlee 13th June 2017, 11:09 AM

Suspect Rag 'N' Bone Man will get another week in Top 5 Albums, he was a busy lad last weekend (Friday at IOW Festival, Saturday performed at Capital Summertime Ball as well as WILD LIFE Festival in Brighton and Sunday at The Parklife Weekender in Manchester), he will continue to gain new fans given the Performance I saw on TV on Friday night. 'Human' Single & Album both to be million-sellers.

Posted by: Dexton 13th June 2017, 11:33 AM

To be fair though, each of the singles has also had some other sort of hype/interest around it to make people buy/stream it.

Chained to the Rhythm was Katy's hyped up comeback single, of course people would instantly jump on that when it was released. Also featured Bob Marley's grandson,

Bon Appetite had the whole cannibalism/playful/gross/sexual video to go along with it and that would've helped introduce people to it (for better or worse). Also featured the increasingly popular Migos (also known as Quavo & friends).

And Swish Swish is an anti-Taylor, house-infused pop song. Also featured Queen Nicki Minaj.

Posted by: GTH 13th June 2017, 01:34 PM

Regarding the video, I don't think it came out early enough to really provide a great amount of momentum behind the track. If it was ready at the same time as Bon Appetit was released, or even the week after release I am sure it would have had a better peak and have a longer chart run.

Even with this still, it was never going to be a big smash hit here.

Posted by: Rob Spears 13th June 2017, 02:33 PM

She's also has radio support and a 59p reduction for Bon Appetite (not sure about CTTR).

Posted by: Cremey 13th June 2017, 02:45 PM

'Bon Appetit' completely killed the momentum for 'Witness'. Up until then I think it was all looking really positive. I'm hoping 'Swish Swish' can reverse some of that a bit, it's already looking like it'll be a much bigger hit than 'Bon Appetit' and that's without any real airplay. It's odd the numbers are so much lower than her last album though, even considering the lack of interest since 'Bon Appetit'. I think quite a lot of it actually is down to people not realising it's out, as poor an excuse as that sounds.

Posted by: Bjork 13th June 2017, 02:46 PM

maybe it's Dr Luke's touch that she's missing, it's her first album without him

Posted by: Dexton 13th June 2017, 02:48 PM

I don't think anyone misses Dr Luke's touch

Posted by: 360Jupiter 13th June 2017, 02:58 PM

Swish Swish is now Spotify top 50 so it's catching on a wee bit. Is it radio playlisted anywhere do we know?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 13th June 2017, 02:59 PM

Capital but only on the night time playlist right now which isn't much help.

Posted by: Defaze 13th June 2017, 03:57 PM

I think they're beginning to give it a few more spins now; I heard it around 6pm yesterday.

Posted by: Envoirment 13th June 2017, 04:39 PM

The music video for "Swish Swish" should be comcing soon (I believe they've already filmed it?). Perhaps that being released will help get the song moving up the chart a bit more!

Posted by: n4yr 13th June 2017, 08:17 PM

She's still working with Max Martin though, who was also involved in most of her major hits alongside Luke. Max has produced notable hits for Ariana Grande, Justin Timberlake and P!nk within the past year or so. I don't the production is the issue.

Posted by: cqmerqn 13th June 2017, 08:27 PM

I think her recent stuff just sounds tacky and lacks her signature big choruses!

Posted by: gavindeejay 13th June 2017, 08:57 PM

Heard 'Swish Swish' on Kiss for the first time today, didn't realise it samples Fatboy Slim's Star 69. Its pretty good to be fair....certainly the best song I've heard from her for a while.

Posted by: cqmerqn 13th June 2017, 08:58 PM

So it is getting airplay then. Hopefully it returns to the top 40 soon.

Posted by: Scene 13th June 2017, 10:50 PM

Swish Swish is one of the songs of the year! Nicki is on form too.

Posted by: Joe. 14th June 2017, 08:10 AM

Yesss, I hope Kiss continue to play it!

The video will undoubtedly give the song a big boost in the US and UK, it just needs to come in time.

Posted by: M4NG0 14th June 2017, 08:16 AM

And it needs to be a bit more tasteful than the Bon Appetit video

Posted by: 777666jason 14th June 2017, 10:43 AM

I think the problem with swish swish is that primarily it's an instant grat so until she promotes it proper it's only really word of mouth it is much better than Bon appetit she really should have released the other way round

Posted by: Joe. 14th June 2017, 12:35 PM

Tuesday Top 40 ONLY Update
Source:
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber - Despacito (50.5k)
2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time (29.8k)
3 David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber - 2U (21.8k) *
4 Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down (19.8k)
5 French Montana feat. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (19.8k)

6-10

11-20
13 Miley Cyrus - Malibu
16 Little Mix - Power

21-30
25 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill
26 Sigala feat. Ella Eyre - Came Here For Love *
28 Ariana Grande - Somewhere Over the Rainbow *


31-40
35 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
39 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human *
40 ALMA - Chasing Highs *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 London Grammar - Truth is a Beautiful Thing (33.6k) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Divide (15.3k)
3 Glen Campbell - Adios (13.3k) *
4 Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie (13.0k) *
5 Katy Perry - Witness (12.2k) *

6-10
8 Lady Antebellum - Heart Break *
9 Chuck Berry - Chuck *

11-20
12 Little Mix - Glory Days
15 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend


21-30
21 Anathema - The Optimist *
22 Cigarettes After Sex - Cigarettes After Sex *
24 Rise Against - Wolves *
28 The Anarchy Arias - The Anarchy Arias *

31-40
35 Rancid - Trouble Maker *
34 Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits *

Posted by: iain 14th June 2017, 12:47 PM

So London Grammar only sold 2.4k in 2 days? It must have been incredibly frontloaded.

Posted by: SKOB 14th June 2017, 12:48 PM

Still more than Katy Perry..

Posted by: iain 14th June 2017, 12:48 PM

And Glen Campbell only sold 100 copies!

Posted by: Hadji 14th June 2017, 12:51 PM

What has caused COTH to climb again? And poor Alma will miss the top 40

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 14th June 2017, 12:52 PM

Our mistake guys, this is the Tuesday update! We got it very early this morning

Posted by: Joe. 14th June 2017, 12:56 PM

Sorrrry.

Mids that arrive on the day are usually for that actual day. Will update if we get more info before the Music Week update.

Posted by: M4NG0 14th June 2017, 12:56 PM

I think Guetta/Bieber will fall to No. 5 by Friday, with French Montana at 3 and Liam at 4. Hopefully Niall can climb to 6!

EDIT: I'll reserve my predictions until we get the proper Wednesday updates then!

Posted by: Rafael x 14th June 2017, 03:24 PM

Where's Slow Hands and Harry's album?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 14th June 2017, 04:53 PM

Wednesday Top 40 ONLY Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber - Despacito (60,896)
2 Ariana Grande - One Last Time (35,369)
3 David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber - 2U (25,673) *
4 French Montana feat. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (24,359)
5 Liam Payne feat. Quavo - Strip That Down (24,252)

6-10

11-20
13 Miley Cyrus - Malibu
14 Little Mix feat. Stormzy - Power

21-30
22 Camila Cabello - Crying in the Club
25 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill
26 Sigala feat. Ella Eyre - Came Here For Love *

31-40
34 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
36 Ariana Grande - Somewhere Over the Rainbow *
39 Major Lazer feat. Travis Scott, Camila Cabello & Quavo - Know No Better *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 London Grammar - Truth is a Beautiful Thing *
2 Ed Sheeran - ÷ (19,074)
3 Glen Campbell - Adios (17,546) *
4 Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie (15,450) *
5 Katy Perry - Witness (13,551) *

6-10
[6 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (13,469)]
8 Chuck Berry - Chuck *
10 Lady Antebellum - Heart Break *

11-20
13 Little Mix - Glory Days
16 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend
18 Ed Sheeran - x

21-30
21 Cigarettes After Sex - Cigarettes After Sex *
23 Anathema - The Optimist *
28 Rise Against - Wolves *

31-40
33 The Anarchy Arias - The Anarchy Arias *
34 Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits ^
36 Taylor Swift - 1989 ^

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 14th June 2017, 04:53 PM

#8 and #15

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th June 2017, 05:00 PM

Can OLT hold on to #2?

Posted by: thecarterfilez 14th June 2017, 05:09 PM

why is Malibu not moving from #13 ? i really thought it had a shot at top 10 this week ? what's #10 - 12 ?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 14th June 2017, 05:10 PM

Easily!


10 Shape of You
11 Attention
12 Symphony

Posted by: Jonjo 14th June 2017, 05:15 PM

YAS LITTLE MIX!!! SO happy for Ariana remaining stable too

Posted by: Robbie 14th June 2017, 05:18 PM

Unbelievable that Ben Homewood at Music week makes a big thing of London Grammar's new album beating first week sales of their debut, gives the first week sale for their debut and then seemingly forgets to say how much their new album has sold this week.

Posted by: timjimlee 14th June 2017, 05:21 PM

Rag 'N' Bone Man looking likely to overtake Katy and hold on to that Top 5 Album spot (next week likely to be more of a challenge to keep the run going).

Posted by: Jamie Barkley 14th June 2017, 05:49 PM

Do we know of any Taylor Swift tracks knocking about now she's back on streaming? I guess it's maybe the album that will benefit more

Posted by: danG 14th June 2017, 05:56 PM

None in the top 100 but Shake It Off is comfortably top 200. And 1989 is #40 in the albums.

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th June 2017, 05:58 PM

It's actually #36

Posted by: mdh 14th June 2017, 06:08 PM

Do we reckon Power could go any higher? If so, how high?

Also YAY at Know No Better doing so well, another top 40 hit for Quavo (Sigala looking good for top 30 also )

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 14th June 2017, 06:16 PM

Have Olly/Louisa advanced at all since Monday?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 14th June 2017, 06:18 PM

#52 on Tuesday's update.

Posted by: BridgeCow 14th June 2017, 06:21 PM

Hopefully Know No Better can cling on by Friday

Posted by: 777666jason 14th June 2017, 08:00 PM

Didn't realise lady antebellum had a new album another comfortable top 20 for them shame none of their singles do much but hey ho

Posted by: Jason 14th June 2017, 08:27 PM

Imagine Dragons Thunder position please?

Posted by: M4NG0 14th June 2017, 08:27 PM

I'll stick by that prediction based on today's mids.

Shame Niall's falling, was hoping he could somehow sneak Top 5...

Posted by: danG 14th June 2017, 08:28 PM

40+7 in Tuesday's update. (Jason)

Posted by: Jason 14th June 2017, 08:29 PM

So, you have only the top 40 today?

I was expecting to see Thunder top 40 at this point. They're #31 on Spotify and #36 on iTunes.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 14th June 2017, 08:32 PM

Yes, otherwise we'd have given you today's position

Posted by: danG 14th June 2017, 08:32 PM

Yes. Unless we say otherwise it's only the top 40 on a Wednesday.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 14th June 2017, 09:10 PM

I wouldn't have believed before this week that Katy's album would actually not make the top 5. Blimey.

Posted by: Rob Spears 14th June 2017, 09:19 PM

Especially when sales are relatively low as well.

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th June 2017, 09:35 PM

I think Katy will climb to 3

Posted by: Rob 14th June 2017, 09:46 PM

She's more likely to be #6 or lower.

Where is Dua Lipa's album?

Posted by: 777666jason 14th June 2017, 10:22 PM

I know they lower than earlier in the year but aren't they higher than this point last year

Justin beiber looking to debut at 5 what floppage