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 Nov 19 2017, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 19 2017, 11:28 AM)  There's a difference between 'working for its members' and 'being as awkward as possible' though - unless they make some concessions, how can they expect us to reciprocate? What's with the non sequitur? You still don't seem to get it. The EU negotiators represent 27 governments. Each of those governments has to get the deal through their national parliament. Why would any of those parliaments vote for a deal that their electorate might perceive gives the UK a better deal than the one we have already? Why, furthermore, would MEPs vote for such a deal? |
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Nov 19 2017, 12:55 PM
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 Buffy/Charmed
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 19 2017, 07:22 AM) She *does* have a mandate to take us out of the EU - have you forgotten 23/6/16? As for a Hard Brexit - since the nature of the Brexit was not raised in the referendum, how come you believe you know the answer, when no-one else does? Either way though, if the EU continues to make zero concessions, it may force us into a hard brexit that will benefit neither side. Then it's fortunate that I did spot it. 2/4 of nations and only 51% or 37% of the elctorate is WAFER THIN AND NOT ENOUGH FOR CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE and NOT ENOGH for Hard Brexit when the right wing brainwashers were banginf on about us bein like Norway and having all the power in negotiations!! Well, not seeing as the EU is the biggest economic block in rhe world and the UK is a small islans. No empire now, no matter what the dailymail tells you. Oh, she also lost an election when almost pushed into power by the media elite and only got in based on anti independent coters in Scotland and a dodgy NI deal ... both of which voted to REMAIN. Not enough I'm afraid x |
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Nov 19 2017, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Nov 19 2017, 12:48 PM) You still don't seem to get it. The EU negotiators represent 27 governments. Each of those governments has to get the deal through their national parliament. Why would any of those parliaments vote for a deal that their electorate might perceive gives the UK a better deal than the one we have already? Why, furthermore, would MEPs vote for such a deal? On that basis then, a hard Brexit seems inevitable. BTW, what did that line about 'cruelty to donkeys' about? |
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Nov 19 2017, 03:03 PM
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Here's an interesting graphic (posted by John Burn-Murdoch of the FT) which incorporates changes in employment over the last decade and the labour market vulnerability to increasing levels of automation in the jobs market over the next decade.
 QUOTE - Every one of the left-behind areas at risk of going further backwards voted Leave - Every area that voted Remain is well-placed to cope with future shifts |
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Nov 19 2017, 05:00 PM
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Exactly!!
So she has NO mandate!! Promises were made about a soft Brexit. And only 51% voted for SOME FORM of it! There is NO MANDATE and a second more pertinent qustion would be: between the deal,if any lol, no deal and hard Brexit, remain, another deal. 60% |
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Nov 19 2017, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 19 2017, 02:41 PM) On that basis then, a hard Brexit seems inevitable. BTW, what did that line about 'cruelty to donkeys' about? An ass is a donkey on this side of the Atlantic. |
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